I don't think the IRS technically distinguishes "nonprofit" and "not for profit." Are you talking about the distinction between a 501(c)(12) cooperative and a 501(c)(3) public charity or private foundation?
Can anyone else talk about good/bad experiences with each legal form of organization?
From: thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org [thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org] on behalf of james bledsoe [jamesbleds0e@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:11 AM To: The Think Tank Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
i would suggest that you if it possible form the root of your organization as a Not for Profit. Not for profit is different than nonprofit. The Bikerowave in Los Angeles is set-up this way. They are still a collective still putting bicycles on the street and serving a public good. But they are not held under the nonprofit strictures and thereby allowed much grater flexibility in how they handle their money. They cannot give a tax credit for receiving donations but from my experience at the Bicycle Kitchen where i have volunteered for nearly ten years most of our donating patrons don't ask for an in-kind receipt. When the kitchen formed we considered forming as a coop where we could operate something like REI but already having 50g s in the bank and an excellent set of tools when we approached the non-profit umbrella we were working under they said we could become a coop simply by donation our cash to a charity of our choice and then buy back our tool for slightly higher than market price. So when the Bikerowave founders came to see how we had done it we suggested that they not become a nonprofit and they built there shop outside the nonprofit realm. Take a look here http://bikerowave.org/
jim ________________________________ From: Jennifer Kay jen.louise.kay@gmail.com To: Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com; The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
Thank you Stephen and Vernon, very helpful info (and checklist)
A thought on one of your comments Vernon: were thinking of establishing some criteria for the donation bikes so we are not overwhelmed with unusable donations. Have you considered this, do you think it is a realistic approach, and, if so, do you have any suggestions for clear criteria?
Jennifer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Vernon Huffman <vernonhuffman@yahoo.commailto:vernonhuffman@yahoo.com> wrote: If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
From: "thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.orgmailto:thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.org" From: Jennifer Kay
Hi! I am with La Bikery in Moncton, New Brunswick. We are in the initial stages of starting up a small scale recycle - a - bike program (storage capacity = 12-15 bikes). I am sure there are plenty of success stories already out there, so I am hoping to draw on some of your expertise. If you have any functioning models to share (or examples of what NOT to do!), I would be grateful to hear from you.
Thank you, Jennifer Recycle-a-bike Coordinator, La Bikery
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