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Hey Folks, Quick question: How do you deal tactfully/respectfully with users of your space who are visibly intoxicated or smell strongly of booze? It's our policy to not allow people to work in this state (for personal safety, amount of oversight required, and comfort levels for other users of the space). This policy, however, is never really enacted. I suppose we don't (I don't!) feel comfortable asking people when I suspect their intoxication may lead them to react abrasively. Any specific lines or strategies you use? Cheers, Clifford McCarten Co-Director, B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 400 Wolfe St, Peterborough ON K9J 2P3 (705) 748-6681 http://www.communitybikeshop.org
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http://www.csoonline.com/article/220710/How_to_Handle_a_Drunk
That article can be applied in many ways, but not all.
The reality is you have to be prepared to be the bad guy.
Keep in mind this is a human being, but they are also not going to
understand, react, or make decisions like a sober person. (Maybe you
can, but I certainly have trouble.)
So be quiet, kind, discrete and direct. But if you make a public
spectacle out of them, be prepared for the same in return.
But don't touch anyone, that is what the police are for according to
the drunk person's future lawyer.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org
On Jan 6, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Clifford McCarten <director@communitybikeshop.org
wrote:
Hey Folks, Quick question: How do you deal tactfully/respectfully with users of your space who
are visibly intoxicated or smell strongly of booze? It's our policy
to not allow people to work in this state (for personal safety,
amount of oversight required, and comfort levels for other users of
the space). This policy, however, is never really enacted. I suppose
we don't (I don't!) feel comfortable asking people when I suspect
their intoxication may lead them to react abrasively. Any specific
lines or strategies you use? Cheers, Clifford McCarten Co-Director, B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 400 Wolfe St, Peterborough ON K9J 2P3 (705) 748-6681 http://www.communitybikeshop.org
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we deal with a lot of those people and we are very hard lined about it, leave now and come back when you are sober.
if they continue to repeat the behavior we ban them from the shop.
havent had an incident yet because we are fair, but we are stern and usually thats all it takes.
n
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Clifford McCarten < director@communitybikeshop.org> wrote:
Hey Folks, Quick question: How do you deal tactfully/respectfully with users of your space who are visibly intoxicated or smell strongly of booze? It's our policy to not allow people to work in this state (for personal safety, amount of oversight required, and comfort levels for other users of the space). This policy, however, is never really enacted. I suppose we don't (I don't!) feel comfortable asking people when I suspect their intoxication may lead them to react abrasively. Any specific lines or strategies you use? Cheers, Clifford McCarten Co-Director, B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 400 Wolfe St, Peterborough ON K9J 2P3 (705) 748-6681 http://www.communitybikeshop.org
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Hey all,
Even though I hate to agree with Reno bikes on anything (remember calling me an idiot in September on this listserve? I won't forget. good times.) we pretty much have the same policy. Drunkenness is pretty rampant here and people are asked to leave pretty quickly if they can't keep their shit together, it depends mostly on the behavior though. We don't necessarily throw someone out if they reek of booze, they could just be sweating it out.
We get A LOT of drunks.
Victor (aka the idiot), Plan B
Clifford McCarten wrote:
Hey Folks, Quick question: How do you deal tactfully/respectfully with users of your space who are visibly intoxicated or smell strongly of booze? It's our policy to not allow people to work in this state (for personal safety, amount of oversight required, and comfort levels for other users of the space). This policy, however, is never really enacted. I suppose we don't (I don't!) feel comfortable asking people when I suspect their intoxication may lead them to react abrasively. Any specific lines or strategies you use? Cheers, Clifford McCarten Co-Director, B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 400 Wolfe St, Peterborough ON K9J 2P3 (705) 748-6681 http://www.communitybikeshop.org
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I remember
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:38 PM, N.O.Bike Project <nolabikeproject@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey all,
Even though I hate to agree with Reno bikes on anything (remember calling me an idiot in September on this listserve? I won't forget. good times.) we pretty much have the same policy. Drunkenness is pretty rampant here and people are asked to leave pretty quickly if they can't keep their shit together, it depends mostly on the behavior though. We don't necessarily throw someone out if they reek of booze, they could just be sweating it out.
We get A LOT of drunks.
Victor (aka the idiot), Plan B
Clifford McCarten wrote:
Hey Folks, Quick question: How do you deal tactfully/respectfully with users of your space who are visibly intoxicated or smell strongly of booze? It's our policy to not allow people to work in this state (for personal safety, amount of oversight required, and comfort levels for other users of the space). This policy, however, is never really enacted. I suppose we don't (I don't!) feel comfortable asking people when I suspect their intoxication may lead them to react abrasively. Any specific lines or strategies you use? Cheers, Clifford McCarten Co-Director, B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 400 Wolfe St, Peterborough ON K9J 2P3 (705) 748-6681 http://www.communitybikeshop.org
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A good rule of thumb is: "Is this person fit for a community environment?" If they're not, a helpful strategy may be to remember perspective: notice that the discomfort from asserting your policy is what protects a healthy, respectful, and welcoming environment for the other users of the space.
Much love to all y'all, Angel
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM, reno bikes renobikeproject@gmail.comwrote:
I remember
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:38 PM, N.O.Bike Project < nolabikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,
Even though I hate to agree with Reno bikes on anything (remember calling me an idiot in September on this listserve? I won't forget. good times.) we pretty much have the same policy. Drunkenness is pretty rampant here and people are asked to leave pretty quickly if they can't keep their shit together, it depends mostly on the behavior though. We don't necessarily throw someone out if they reek of booze, they could just be sweating it out.
We get A LOT of drunks.
Victor (aka the idiot), Plan B
Clifford McCarten wrote:
Hey Folks, Quick question: How do you deal tactfully/respectfully with users of your space who are visibly intoxicated or smell strongly of booze? It's our policy to not allow people to work in this state (for personal safety, amount of oversight required, and comfort levels for other users of the space). This policy, however, is never really enacted. I suppose we don't (I don't!) feel comfortable asking people when I suspect their intoxication may lead them to react abrasively. Any specific lines or strategies you use? Cheers, Clifford McCarten Co-Director, B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 400 Wolfe St, Peterborough ON K9J 2P3 (705) 748-6681 http://www.communitybikeshop.org
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Jonathan Morrison
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