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Hi John,
Glad to hear you want to get something started! As far as tools go it might depend on your location and whether or not you're able to buy bike specific tools in your area or have them shipped there. If you are able to get tools donated, make a list of things you want so folks know what to get you (and keep it updated where they can view it--though it doesn't ever hurt to have back up tools!). Always go for quality tools if you can when buying new (which cost a lot more initially). Once you start training the 101 class might not be 'how to fit a flat, brakes, derailleur, but how to properly use the tools.
I would also consider the vintage of the bikes you will most likely be working on too especially if you are considering buying a new kit. Do you need the newer bottom bracket, disc rotor, ect. tools? Or do you need tools that are more specific to older bikes e.g. cotter pin crank press?
Do you have a space in mind? As an org that has bounced around to five different locations in 15yrs, space is a bug concern for us.
Not sure what your situation is, but it's always good to have local buy-in/ownership. You'll no doubt run into start up problems, but they might be best handled with a by locals for locals perspective. Here in Iowa City the needs change based on the neighborhood, not just the city we serve.
I would also recommend getting female mechanics trained initially too.
Peace & grease,
*Audrey Wiedemeier* (She/her/hers) Iowa City Bike Library, Director
700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City *COVID Hours: *Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM Need something? Set up an appointment by email. Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you!
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Thank you Audrey, I am very grateful for the information. John ________________________________ From: Thethinktank thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of Audrey Wiedemeier audrey@bikelibrary.org Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:44 AM To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Starting a bike coop in the Philippines
Hi John,
Glad to hear you want to get something started! As far as tools go it might depend on your location and whether or not you're able to buy bike specific tools in your area or have them shipped there. If you are able to get tools donated, make a list of things you want so folks know what to get you (and keep it updated where they can view it--though it doesn't ever hurt to have back up tools!). Always go for quality tools if you can when buying new (which cost a lot more initially). Once you start training the 101 class might not be 'how to fit a flat, brakes, derailleur, but how to properly use the tools.
I would also consider the vintage of the bikes you will most likely be working on too especially if you are considering buying a new kit. Do you need the newer bottom bracket, disc rotor, ect. tools? Or do you need tools that are more specific to older bikes e.g. cotter pin crank press?
Do you have a space in mind? As an org that has bounced around to five different locations in 15yrs, space is a bug concern for us.
Not sure what your situation is, but it's always good to have local buy-in/ownership. You'll no doubt run into start up problems, but they might be best handled with a by locals for locals perspective. Here in Iowa City the needs change based on the neighborhood, not just the city we serve.
I would also recommend getting female mechanics trained initially too.
Peace & grease,
Audrey Wiedemeier (She/her/hers) Iowa City Bike Library, Director
700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City COVID Hours: Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM Need something? Set up an appointment by email. Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you!
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Some people I know helped start a DIY space with a tool lending library attached in Tacloban. I believe the org is called communitere and the could probably help with the local angle. Google their Philippines location. If you can’t get in contact that way send me a line and I’ll start bugging people I know.
Loconte
On Sep 8, 2020, at 13:41, John Klock biology@hotmail.com wrote:
Thank you Audrey, I am very grateful for the information. John From: Thethinktank thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of Audrey Wiedemeier audrey@bikelibrary.org Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:44 AM To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Starting a bike coop in the Philippines
Hi John,
Glad to hear you want to get something started! As far as tools go it might depend on your location and whether or not you're able to buy bike specific tools in your area or have them shipped there. If you are able to get tools donated, make a list of things you want so folks know what to get you (and keep it updated where they can view it--though it doesn't ever hurt to have back up tools!). Always go for quality tools if you can when buying new (which cost a lot more initially). Once you start training the 101 class might not be 'how to fit a flat, brakes, derailleur, but how to properly use the tools.
I would also consider the vintage of the bikes you will most likely be working on too especially if you are considering buying a new kit. Do you need the newer bottom bracket, disc rotor, ect. tools? Or do you need tools that are more specific to older bikes e.g. cotter pin crank press?
Do you have a space in mind? As an org that has bounced around to five different locations in 15yrs, space is a bug concern for us.
Not sure what your situation is, but it's always good to have local buy-in/ownership. You'll no doubt run into start up problems, but they might be best handled with a by locals for locals perspective. Here in Iowa City the needs change based on the neighborhood, not just the city we serve.
I would also recommend getting female mechanics trained initially too.
Peace & grease,
Audrey Wiedemeier (She/her/hers) Iowa City Bike Library, Director
700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City COVID Hours: Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM Need something? Set up an appointment by email. Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you!
BikeLibrary.org C: (515) 450-1651
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That is great, appreciate your help. ________________________________ From: Thethinktank thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of wormsign@gmail.com wormsign@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 2:26 PM To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Starting a bike coop in the Philippines
Some people I know helped start a DIY space with a tool lending library attached in Tacloban. I believe the org is called communitere and the could probably help with the local angle. Google their Philippines location. If you can’t get in contact that way send me a line and I’ll start bugging people I know.
Loconte
On Sep 8, 2020, at 13:41, John Klock biology@hotmail.com wrote:
Thank you Audrey, I am very grateful for the information. John ________________________________ From: Thethinktank thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of Audrey Wiedemeier audrey@bikelibrary.org Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:44 AM To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Starting a bike coop in the Philippines
Hi John,
Glad to hear you want to get something started! As far as tools go it might depend on your location and whether or not you're able to buy bike specific tools in your area or have them shipped there. If you are able to get tools donated, make a list of things you want so folks know what to get you (and keep it updated where they can view it--though it doesn't ever hurt to have back up tools!). Always go for quality tools if you can when buying new (which cost a lot more initially). Once you start training the 101 class might not be 'how to fit a flat, brakes, derailleur, but how to properly use the tools.
I would also consider the vintage of the bikes you will most likely be working on too especially if you are considering buying a new kit. Do you need the newer bottom bracket, disc rotor, ect. tools? Or do you need tools that are more specific to older bikes e.g. cotter pin crank press?
Do you have a space in mind? As an org that has bounced around to five different locations in 15yrs, space is a bug concern for us.
Not sure what your situation is, but it's always good to have local buy-in/ownership. You'll no doubt run into start up problems, but they might be best handled with a by locals for locals perspective. Here in Iowa City the needs change based on the neighborhood, not just the city we serve.
I would also recommend getting female mechanics trained initially too.
Peace & grease,
Audrey Wiedemeier (She/her/hers) Iowa City Bike Library, Director
700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City COVID Hours: Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM Need something? Set up an appointment by email. Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you!
BikeLibrary.orghttp://BikeLibrary.org C: (515) 450-1651
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 7:24 PM John Klock <biology@hotmail.commailto:biology@hotmail.com> wrote: I would like to get a bike coop started in the Philippines. I wanted to inquire about tools cost to start and then ask about what might be some initial problems getting this going. Lastly, I wanted to combine this with bicycle advocacy. Thanks, John
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Thinking about your tools! I would consider some of the Hozan tools. They are made in Japan and they sell to http://sell.to bike shops. Google the address. Also Ice Tools are inexpensive and do the job. They are manufactured in Taiwan. I am sure that they could provide names of wholesalers to you. Contact Park Tool in Minnesota and ask from whom you may buy from. Regards Angelo.l Coletta
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 6:38 PM John Klock biology@hotmail.com wrote:
That is great, appreciate your help.
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Some people I know helped start a DIY space with a tool lending library attached in Tacloban. I believe the org is called communitere and the could probably help with the local angle. Google their Philippines location. If you can’t get in contact that way send me a line and I’ll start bugging people I know.
Loconte
On Sep 8, 2020, at 13:41, John Klock biology@hotmail.com wrote:
Thank you Audrey, I am very grateful for the information. John
*From:* Thethinktank thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of Audrey Wiedemeier audrey@bikelibrary.org *Sent:* Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:44 AM *To:* The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Starting a bike coop in the Philippines
Hi John,
Glad to hear you want to get something started! As far as tools go it might depend on your location and whether or not you're able to buy bike specific tools in your area or have them shipped there. If you are able to get tools donated, make a list of things you want so folks know what to get you (and keep it updated where they can view it--though it doesn't ever hurt to have back up tools!). Always go for quality tools if you can when buying new (which cost a lot more initially). Once you start training the 101 class might not be 'how to fit a flat, brakes, derailleur, but how to properly use the tools.
I would also consider the vintage of the bikes you will most likely be working on too especially if you are considering buying a new kit. Do you need the newer bottom bracket, disc rotor, ect. tools? Or do you need tools that are more specific to older bikes e.g. cotter pin crank press?
Do you have a space in mind? As an org that has bounced around to five different locations in 15yrs, space is a bug concern for us.
Not sure what your situation is, but it's always good to have local buy-in/ownership. You'll no doubt run into start up problems, but they might be best handled with a by locals for locals perspective. Here in Iowa City the needs change based on the neighborhood, not just the city we serve.
I would also recommend getting female mechanics trained initially too.
Peace & grease,
*Audrey Wiedemeier* (She/her/hers) Iowa City Bike Library, Director
700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City *COVID Hours: *Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM Need something? Set up an appointment by email. Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you!
BikeLibrary.org C: (515) 450-1651
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Junior also makes some good quality tools.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 6:12 PM General Manager 3rdwardbikes@gmail.com wrote:
Thinking about your tools! I would consider some of the Hozan tools. They are made in Japan and they sell to http://sell.to bike shops. Google the address. Also Ice Tools are inexpensive and do the job. They are manufactured in Taiwan. I am sure that they could provide names of wholesalers to you. Contact Park Tool in Minnesota and ask from whom you may buy from. Regards Angelo.l Coletta
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 6:38 PM John Klock biology@hotmail.com wrote:
That is great, appreciate your help.
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Some people I know helped start a DIY space with a tool lending library attached in Tacloban. I believe the org is called communitere and the could probably help with the local angle. Google their Philippines location. If you can’t get in contact that way send me a line and I’ll start bugging people I know.
Loconte
On Sep 8, 2020, at 13:41, John Klock biology@hotmail.com wrote:
Thank you Audrey, I am very grateful for the information. John
*From:* Thethinktank thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of Audrey Wiedemeier audrey@bikelibrary.org *Sent:* Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:44 AM *To:* The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Starting a bike coop in the Philippines
Hi John,
Glad to hear you want to get something started! As far as tools go it might depend on your location and whether or not you're able to buy bike specific tools in your area or have them shipped there. If you are able to get tools donated, make a list of things you want so folks know what to get you (and keep it updated where they can view it--though it doesn't ever hurt to have back up tools!). Always go for quality tools if you can when buying new (which cost a lot more initially). Once you start training the 101 class might not be 'how to fit a flat, brakes, derailleur, but how to properly use the tools.
I would also consider the vintage of the bikes you will most likely be working on too especially if you are considering buying a new kit. Do you need the newer bottom bracket, disc rotor, ect. tools? Or do you need tools that are more specific to older bikes e.g. cotter pin crank press?
Do you have a space in mind? As an org that has bounced around to five different locations in 15yrs, space is a bug concern for us.
Not sure what your situation is, but it's always good to have local buy-in/ownership. You'll no doubt run into start up problems, but they might be best handled with a by locals for locals perspective. Here in Iowa City the needs change based on the neighborhood, not just the city we serve.
I would also recommend getting female mechanics trained initially too.
Peace & grease,
*Audrey Wiedemeier* (She/her/hers) Iowa City Bike Library, Director
700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City *COVID Hours: *Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM Need something? Set up an appointment by email. Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you!
BikeLibrary.org C: (515) 450-1651
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Thank you Angelo
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Thinking about your tools! I would consider some of the Hozan tools. They are made in Japan and they sell tohttp://sell.to bike shops. Google the address. Also Ice Tools are inexpensive and do the job. They are manufactured in Taiwan. I am sure that they could provide names of wholesalers to you. Contact Park Tool in Minnesota and ask from whom you may buy from. Regards Angelo.l Coletta
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 6:38 PM John Klock <biology@hotmail.commailto:biology@hotmail.com> wrote: That is great, appreciate your help. ________________________________ From: Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.orgmailto:thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org> on behalf of wormsign@gmail.commailto:wormsign@gmail.com <wormsign@gmail.commailto:wormsign@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 2:26 PM To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.orgmailto:thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Starting a bike coop in the Philippines
Some people I know helped start a DIY space with a tool lending library attached in Tacloban. I believe the org is called communitere and the could probably help with the local angle. Google their Philippines location. If you can’t get in contact that way send me a line and I’ll start bugging people I know.
Loconte
On Sep 8, 2020, at 13:41, John Klock <biology@hotmail.commailto:biology@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Audrey, I am very grateful for the information. John ________________________________ From: Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.orgmailto:thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org> on behalf of Audrey Wiedemeier <audrey@bikelibrary.orgmailto:audrey@bikelibrary.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:44 AM To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.orgmailto:thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Starting a bike coop in the Philippines
Hi John,
Glad to hear you want to get something started! As far as tools go it might depend on your location and whether or not you're able to buy bike specific tools in your area or have them shipped there. If you are able to get tools donated, make a list of things you want so folks know what to get you (and keep it updated where they can view it--though it doesn't ever hurt to have back up tools!). Always go for quality tools if you can when buying new (which cost a lot more initially). Once you start training the 101 class might not be 'how to fit a flat, brakes, derailleur, but how to properly use the tools.
I would also consider the vintage of the bikes you will most likely be working on too especially if you are considering buying a new kit. Do you need the newer bottom bracket, disc rotor, ect. tools? Or do you need tools that are more specific to older bikes e.g. cotter pin crank press?
Do you have a space in mind? As an org that has bounced around to five different locations in 15yrs, space is a bug concern for us.
Not sure what your situation is, but it's always good to have local buy-in/ownership. You'll no doubt run into start up problems, but they might be best handled with a by locals for locals perspective. Here in Iowa City the needs change based on the neighborhood, not just the city we serve.
I would also recommend getting female mechanics trained initially too.
Peace & grease,
Audrey Wiedemeier (She/her/hers) Iowa City Bike Library, Director
700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City COVID Hours: Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM Need something? Set up an appointment by email. Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you!
BikeLibrary.orghttp://BikeLibrary.org C: (515) 450-1651
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Hi… Does your co-op host group rides? Are they of the relaxed urban social ride style? Did you host them this year also?
Our gang has been hosting rides this year. We talk about distancing before each ride and mention it again at traffic stops and at our social stop.
Do you have a basic way that you lead rides? Do you find it to be obvious and that many ppl can lead such rides? Or have you worked out a detailed, nuanced method and find that there’s a ride leader skill that’s important.
I’ve led 200+ riders over 10 yrs but am backing off lately. I’m noticing that new ride hosts often make choices that create friction moments that seem to effect our safety, popularity (among riders and among drivers we encounter) and our mellow vibe.
Also, our local rides have been almost entirely SEPARATE from our co-op even though they mostly all start from the co-op parking lot! Slightly odd vibe that I wonder about. The co-op used to host its own occasional ride — with almost totally different riders! Like 5% overlap. I’ve never seen or heard of such a dynamic and it’s baffling to me.
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