Re: [TheThinkTank] Portable Bike Co-op
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We like the idea of having some sort of trailer, wagon or otherwise that we can take throughout the city to different neighborhoods, events and otherwise to help make bike repairs.
The Bozeman Bike Kitchen built our "Mobile Bike Kitchen" a few years ago based on a Bikes-at-Work Trailer. It is a custom aluminum box (built from recycled signage) and is stocked with a 10x10 pop up tent, bike stand, and enough tools to perform all minor repair work. There is also a second stand mounted to the trailer box itself.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walloftvs/8748436830/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/walloftvs/14165867907
We solicited the help of local designers and a college engineering class for designs and plans and then paid one of our skilled volunteers to do the build. We then had it professionally "wrapped" with our logo and the logo of our local bike club that matched our funding in a grant to pay for the project. I would be happy to share our grant proposal with anyone who'd like to see it - please request off-list.
- Sam
Thanks Ross!
It's good to hear from you. Did you all end up finding a space?
Justin Smith
Bike Erie
www.bikeerie.org [2]
(814) 580-9108
Follow us on Facebook [7] & Twitter [8]!
On 01/24/2015 5:15 pm, recyclebicycle@verizon.net wrote:
We started out working out of the tool bag on the back of my bike, then a tool box & parts in private vehicle, then a trailer and finally a warehouse. We have used bike trailers, but the big trailer let us carry everything imaginable - hence it was very rare that we could not fix a bike for a kid. Plus when on the street at block parties - we don't patch but replace tubes with prepatched tubes because we have to work fast. If we are in a high kid/ mostly single parent neighborhood - the line goes on forever. But that built our credibility with the city and now they know us by our actions and not unproven promises.
The big trailer is a modified lawn care trailer - owner wanted $300 -took $200 because of what we do. The insurance on the highway is covered by the vehicle pulling it. The box is 5 wide 8 long and 8 high - it bucks the wind - but we only travel local. The 2x4 studs and plywood came from two different recycle sites and it has a donated rubber roof. It cost nothing once acquired - no property tax or rent like a building - no utilities ( we plug into something local when the sun goes down ) - no building insurance - Just $6 a year for the trailer tag. It carries a 10X10 or 10X20 tent, table, chairs, rolling tool cart, bike stands, and a ton of parts, tubes & tires. It hauls away scrap metal, rubber to recycle and donated bikes when we leave a block party. It advertises who we are since it's been repainted. It is the most recognized trailer in our city. http://www.marchforjesususa.com/DSC_0165.JPG [1] is an old pic. Call Ross Willard 717-571-2008 for more info
On 01/24/15, Ariel Cariel.climer@gmail.com wrote:
Make a trailer out of a ladder. Have a piece of plywood that can stand up on it to hang tools on. Other people from LA have pics of both of those things we have used. -Ariel
On Saturday, January 24, 2015, Falls City Community BikeWorks Community BikeWorks fccbikeworks@gmail.com wrote:
We are about to work on the same project here in Louisville. Looking forward to hearing from the pros :) Bella On Jan 24, 2015 4:20 PM, "Justin Smith" justin@bikeerie.org wrote:
We like the idea of having some sort of trailer, wagon or otherwise that we can take throughout the city to different neighborhoods, events and otherwise to help make bike repairs.
We'd love your suggestions for what type of trailer to use, how to organize, actual plans and costs, your sources of funding, and all other advice and input you care to share.
Thanks!
Justin Smith
Bike Erie
www.bikeerie.org [2]
(814) 580-9108 [3]
Follow us on Facebook [4] & Twitter [5]! ____________________________________
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[1] http://www.marchforjesususa.com/DSC_0165.JPG [2] http://www.bikeerie.org/ [3] http://tel:%28814%29%20580-9108 [4] http://facebook.com/BikeErie [5] http://twitter.com/BikeErie [6] http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.or... [7] http://box809.bluehost.com/facebook.com/BikeErie [8] http://box809.bluehost.com/twitter.com/BikeErie
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The Bike House got funding through WABA for clinics East Of The River EOTR in wards 7 and 8, typically called south east Washington dc.
Bike Trailer seemed heavy, and top heavy ( went over at least once when I was taging along) though I never pulled it, I was riding in further from Virginia. I think there were at leat two trailer versions, one custom with an umbrella attachment. Early clinics advertising was an issue, local library and rec center clinics. Some kids seemed to pull old rusty bikes out of the river and expect us to fix them, typically for free/ donations. We didn't have parts, only supplies. Lines and I generally tried entertaining kids while waiting. Host functions were separate.
Iirc the residents started something at a rec center, and some other startup. GearUp, iirc, but not positive. Mostly department store bikes, difficult to adjust, but kids outgrow bikes quickly. Air, Brakes, Chain/Cables as preflight EACH ride, was a mantra, chorus and refrain.
Teaching a few kids to help others seemed to help, like train the trainer strategy...
WABA's website / blog may have some old startup photos, I tried staying out of them, more photo op than service was annoying to me. Careful with liability and signed releases. E.g. kid comes in without brakes, no parts, leaves without brakes, suggest parents, neighbors, popo confiscating the bike?
Much better if parents accompany kids, instead of free for all. Iirc they ran mini rodeo, concurrently at the first slash one and pushing bike sharing service (way too expensive, IMO, maybe as a social/ health benefit with tanf, wic, etc like smart benefits like employer based commuting subsidies. ). All first minigrant year experiences, I missed at least a year and haven't been back, iirc they skipped a year.
Black Women Bike and other empowering riding groups may have helped. Diversity and other poverty issues exist. But like helped one starfish some kids got to ride more...
typing impaired by device, so phlat.
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BackusNaurForm forgotten.
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On Jan 25, 2015 10:28 PM, "Justin Smith" <justin@bikeerie.org> wrote:
> Thanks Ross!
>
> It's good to hear from you. Did you all end up finding a space?
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Justin Smith
>
> Bike Erie
>
> www.bikeerie.org
>
> (814) 580-9108
>
> Follow us on Facebook <http://facebook.com/BikeErie> & Twitter
> <http://twitter.com/BikeErie>!
>
> On 01/24/2015 5:15 pm, recyclebicycle@verizon.net wrote:
>
> We started out working out of the tool bag on the back of my bike, then
> a tool box & parts in private vehicle, then a trailer and finally a
> warehouse.
> We have used bike trailers, but the big trailer let us carry everything
> imaginable - hence it was very rare that we could not fix a bike for a kid.
> Plus when on the street at block parties - we don't patch but replace tubes
> with prepatched tubes because we have to work fast.
> If we are in a high kid/ mostly single parent neighborhood - the line goes
> on forever.
> But that built our credibility with the city and now they know us by our
> actions and not unproven promises.
>
> The big trailer is a modified lawn care trailer - owner wanted $300 -took
> $200 because of what we do.
> The insurance on the highway is covered by the vehicle pulling it. The box
> is 5 wide 8 long and 8 high - it bucks the wind - but we only travel local.
> The 2x4 studs and plywood came from two different recycle sites and it has
> a donated rubber roof. It cost nothing once acquired - no property tax or
> rent like a building - no utilities ( we plug into something local when the
> sun goes down ) - no building insurance - Just $6 a year for the trailer
> tag.
> It carries a 10X10 or 10X20 tent, table, chairs, rolling tool cart, bike
> stands, and a ton of parts, tubes & tires. It hauls away scrap metal,
> rubber to recycle and donated bikes when we leave a block party.
> It advertises who we are since it's been repainted. It is the most
> recognized trailer in our city.
> http://www.marchforjesususa.com/DSC_0165.JPG is an old pic.
> Call Ross Willard
> 717-571-2008 for more info
>
>
>
> On 01/24/15, Ariel C<ariel.climer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Make a trailer out of a ladder. Have a piece of plywood that can stand up
> on it to hang tools on. Other people from LA have pics of both of those
> things we have used.
> -Ariel
>
> On Saturday, January 24, 2015, Falls City Community BikeWorks Community
> BikeWorks <fccbikeworks@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We are about to work on the same project here in Louisville. Looking
>> forward to hearing from the pros :)
>> Bella
>> On Jan 24, 2015 4:20 PM, "Justin Smith" <justin@bikeerie.org
>> <http://javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','justin@bikeerie.org');>> wrote:
>>
>>> We like the idea of having some sort of trailer, wagon or otherwise
>>> that we can take throughout the city to different neighborhoods, events and
>>> otherwise to help make bike repairs.
>>>
>>> We'd love your suggestions for what type of trailer to use, how to
>>> organize, actual plans and costs, your sources of funding, and all
>>> other advice and input you care to share.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>>
>>> Justin Smith
>>>
>>> Bike Erie
>>>
>>> www.bikeerie.org
>>>
>>> (814) 580-9108 <http://tel:%28814%29%20580-9108>
>>>
>>> Follow us on Facebook <http://facebook.com/BikeErie> & Twitter
>>> <http://twitter.com/BikeErie>!
>>>
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Thank you for sharing the grant proposal and helpful tips about how the money was actually used!! We've experienced some of those same issues "in the field"...no parts, demand-supply balance issues, ...guess we were hoping to.solve some of them with a stocked mobile unit, but maybe it doesn't work that way :p Many thanks for the encouragement and words of wisdom! !! Best Bella
The Bike House got funding through WABA for clinics East Of The River EOTR in wards 7 and 8, typically called south east Washington dc.
Bike Trailer seemed heavy, and top heavy ( went over at least once when I was taging along) though I never pulled it, I was riding in further from Virginia. I think there were at leat two trailer versions, one custom with an umbrella attachment. Early clinics advertising was an issue, local library and rec center clinics. Some kids seemed to pull old rusty bikes out of the river and expect us to fix them, typically for free/ donations. We didn't have parts, only supplies. Lines and I generally tried entertaining kids while waiting. Host functions were separate.
Iirc the residents started something at a rec center, and some other startup. GearUp, iirc, but not positive. Mostly department store bikes, difficult to adjust, but kids outgrow bikes quickly. Air, Brakes, Chain/Cables as preflight EACH ride, was a mantra, chorus and refrain.
Teaching a few kids to help others seemed to help, like train the trainer strategy...
WABA's website / blog may have some old startup photos, I tried staying out of them, more photo op than service was annoying to me. Careful with liability and signed releases. E.g. kid comes in without brakes, no parts, leaves without brakes, suggest parents, neighbors, popo confiscating the bike?
Much better if parents accompany kids, instead of free for all. Iirc they ran mini rodeo, concurrently at the first slash one and pushing bike sharing service (way too expensive, IMO, maybe as a social/ health benefit with tanf, wic, etc like smart benefits like employer based commuting subsidies. ). All first minigrant year experiences, I missed at least a year and haven't been back, iirc they skipped a year.
Black Women Bike and other empowering riding groups may have helped. Diversity and other poverty issues exist. But like helped one starfish some kids got to ride more...
typing impaired by device, so phlat.
NB: BigBro monitors all, dude[tte]....
BackusNaurForm forgotten.
Lied to re: Del msgs. MailHoardersAnon*
On Jan 25, 2015 10:28 PM, "Justin Smith" <justin@bikeerie.org> wrote:
> Thanks Ross!
>
> It's good to hear from you. Did you all end up finding a space?
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Justin Smith
>
> Bike Erie
>
> www.bikeerie.org
>
> (814) 580-9108
>
> Follow us on Facebook <http://facebook.com/BikeErie> & Twitter
> <http://twitter.com/BikeErie>!
>
> On 01/24/2015 5:15 pm, recyclebicycle@verizon.net wrote:
>
> We started out working out of the tool bag on the back of my bike, then
> a tool box & parts in private vehicle, then a trailer and finally a
> warehouse.
> We have used bike trailers, but the big trailer let us carry everything
> imaginable - hence it was very rare that we could not fix a bike for a kid.
> Plus when on the street at block parties - we don't patch but replace tubes
> with prepatched tubes because we have to work fast.
> If we are in a high kid/ mostly single parent neighborhood - the line goes
> on forever.
> But that built our credibility with the city and now they know us by our
> actions and not unproven promises.
>
> The big trailer is a modified lawn care trailer - owner wanted $300 -took
> $200 because of what we do.
> The insurance on the highway is covered by the vehicle pulling it. The box
> is 5 wide 8 long and 8 high - it bucks the wind - but we only travel local.
> The 2x4 studs and plywood came from two different recycle sites and it has
> a donated rubber roof. It cost nothing once acquired - no property tax or
> rent like a building - no utilities ( we plug into something local when the
> sun goes down ) - no building insurance - Just $6 a year for the trailer
> tag.
> It carries a 10X10 or 10X20 tent, table, chairs, rolling tool cart, bike
> stands, and a ton of parts, tubes & tires. It hauls away scrap metal,
> rubber to recycle and donated bikes when we leave a block party.
> It advertises who we are since it's been repainted. It is the most
> recognized trailer in our city.
> http://www.marchforjesususa.com/DSC_0165.JPG is an old pic.
> Call Ross Willard
> 717-571-2008 for more info
>
>
>
> On 01/24/15, Ariel C<ariel.climer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Make a trailer out of a ladder. Have a piece of plywood that can stand up
> on it to hang tools on. Other people from LA have pics of both of those
> things we have used.
> -Ariel
>
> On Saturday, January 24, 2015, Falls City Community BikeWorks Community
> BikeWorks <fccbikeworks@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We are about to work on the same project here in Louisville. Looking
>> forward to hearing from the pros :)
>> Bella
>> On Jan 24, 2015 4:20 PM, "Justin Smith" <justin@bikeerie.org
>> <http://javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','justin@bikeerie.org');>> wrote:
>>
>>> We like the idea of having some sort of trailer, wagon or otherwise
>>> that we can take throughout the city to different neighborhoods, events and
>>> otherwise to help make bike repairs.
>>>
>>> We'd love your suggestions for what type of trailer to use, how to
>>> organize, actual plans and costs, your sources of funding, and all
>>> other advice and input you care to share.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>>
>>> Justin Smith
>>>
>>> Bike Erie
>>>
>>> www.bikeerie.org
>>>
>>> (814) 580-9108 <http://tel:%28814%29%20580-9108>
>>>
>>> Follow us on Facebook <http://facebook.com/BikeErie> & Twitter
>>> <http://twitter.com/BikeErie>!
>>>
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