Hey everyone, Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into a shop, and are looking at the tools we need to purchase. Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would be really helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for things like this? Thanks, Ariel
Don't know about grants but I have a few suggestions on necessary tools...
-Workstand (you don't need it, but it makes life wonderful) -Ratcheting 14mm and 15mm wrench (indispensable for quickly removing wheels) -"Y" style hex tools with 8-9-10mm (everybody needs at least one of these for brakes) -Chain breakers (get both for 3/32 and 1/8in chains, i recommend the park ones that you can change the pins out on, get plenty of extra pins too. you (or someone in your shop) WILL break these) -At least 2 sets of Allen keys (they will get lost. it's handy to have one "flip-out" set with the keys attached) -Pedal wrenches (get good ones with a lot of leverage)
Perhaps we should all collaborate on a more comprehensive list to put up on the wiki "Bike Collective Starter Kit". I skimmed the pages but didn't find one.
Happy Friday!
Brian Windle Urban Bike Project of Wilmington
On 9/28/07, Ariel raymon bikefarm@gmail.com wrote:
Hey everyone, Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into a shop, and are looking at the tools we need to purchase. Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would be really helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for things like this? Thanks, Ariel
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josh @ community cycles here.
free ride in pittsburgh has some awesome diy stands, the design for which i've stolen for our shop. they're made 100% from bike parts.
here's what you need:
2 bmx bars with stems. 2 bmx forks. 2 sets of drop road bars, with stems. one top tube, which is the same inner diameter as the steerer tube on the bmx forks are outer diameter.
cut off the dropouts on both sets of forks. the bmx bars/stems are inserted into the bottom of the forks, one stem in each arm of the forks. this is the base, so that the steerer tube stands straight up. the top tube goes over this steerer tube, then the other fork (with road bars/stems inserted into it's arms), goes into the top of the top tube. the drop bars are turned so that the ends of the bars are hooks to hold a bike to be worked on. the bmx bars are wide enough that the stand can hold two bikes at once, without tipping over.
someone on the list i'm sure has some pics, which make the design much easier to figure out than my paltry description.
cheap, easy, diy, and best of all, it looks bikey, so people are into it...
On 9/28/07, Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc. < urbanbikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't know about grants but I have a few suggestions on necessary tools...
-Workstand (you don't need it, but it makes life wonderful ) -Ratcheting 14mm and 15mm wrench (indispensable for quickly removing wheels) -"Y" style hex tools with 8-9-10mm (everybody needs at least one of these for brakes) -Chain breakers (get both for 3/32 and 1/8in chains, i recommend the park ones that you can change the pins out on, get plenty of extra pins too. you (or someone in your shop) WILL break these) -At least 2 sets of Allen keys (they will get lost. it's handy to have one "flip-out" set with the keys attached) -Pedal wrenches (get good ones with a lot of leverage)
Perhaps we should all collaborate on a more comprehensive list to put up on the wiki "Bike Collective Starter Kit". I skimmed the pages but didn't find one.
Happy Friday!
Brian Windle Urban Bike Project of Wilmington
On 9/28/07, Ariel raymon <bikefarm@gmail.com > wrote:
Hey everyone, Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into a shop, and are looking at the tools we need to purchase. Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would be really helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for things like this? Thanks, Ariel
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You can see a picture of one of the stands at Free Ride on our website
http://freeridepgh.org/html/uses.html
Your variety is slightly different than ours- we actually use two top
tubes to make the long part of the stand. i'm sure either way works
fine. Always be sure to use a long stem when attaching the drop bars
that the bike will hang on. this way the pedals wont always be
hitting the stand.
andalusia
On Sep 28, 2007, at 12:35 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
josh @ community cycles here.
free ride in pittsburgh has some awesome diy stands, the design for
which i've stolen for our shop. they're made 100% from bike parts.here's what you need:
2 bmx bars with stems. 2 bmx forks. 2 sets of drop road bars, with stems. one top tube, which is the same inner diameter as the steerer tube
on the bmx forks are outer diameter.cut off the dropouts on both sets of forks. the bmx bars/stems are
inserted into the bottom of the forks, one stem in each arm of the
forks. this is the base, so that the steerer tube stands straight
up. the top tube goes over this steerer tube, then the other fork
(with road bars/stems inserted into it's arms), goes into the top
of the top tube. the drop bars are turned so that the ends of the
bars are hooks to hold a bike to be worked on. the bmx bars are
wide enough that the stand can hold two bikes at once, without
tipping over.someone on the list i'm sure has some pics, which make the design
much easier to figure out than my paltry description.cheap, easy, diy, and best of all, it looks bikey, so people are
into it...On 9/28/07, Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc.
urbanbikeproject@gmail.com wrote: Don't know about grants but I have a few suggestions on necessary
tools...-Workstand (you don't need it, but it makes life wonderful ) -Ratcheting 14mm and 15mm wrench (indispensable for quickly
removing wheels) -"Y" style hex tools with 8-9-10mm (everybody needs at least one of
these for brakes) -Chain breakers (get both for 3/32 and 1/8in chains, i recommend
the park ones that you can change the pins out on, get plenty of
extra pins too. you (or someone in your shop) WILL break these) -At least 2 sets of Allen keys (they will get lost. it's handy to
have one "flip-out" set with the keys attached) -Pedal wrenches (get good ones with a lot of leverage)Perhaps we should all collaborate on a more comprehensive list to
put up on the wiki "Bike Collective Starter Kit". I skimmed the
pages but didn't find one.Happy Friday!
Brian Windle Urban Bike Project of Wilmington
On 9/28/07, Ariel raymon < bikefarm@gmail.com > wrote: Hey everyone, Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into a
shop, and are looking at the tools we need to purchase. Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would be
really helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for
things like this? Thanks, Ariel
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hey,
we are going through this exercise right now too. a goal for us is to have one master tool bench with all the heavies. but we're organizing smaller "kits" based on the work we need to do for now.
one job we do is flatten bikes for the village bicycle project in moscow, idaho. we just need to remove pedals, loosen stem bolts and turn the handle bars. that kit (we figure we should have 3 kits) will have a 15mm combo wrench, couple of rags, hex wrenches 2-8, and a medium crescent wrench.
we're also finding the tools we need lots of are pretty common/nonbike specific tools like 15mm combo wrenches, medium and large crescent wrenches, flat and philips head screwdrivers, needle-nose pliers, side cutters, cable cutters, utility knives. lots of hex sets or the 4,5,6 & 8,9,10 y-tools brian mentioned are really handy too!
best, liza
On 9/28/07, veganboyjosh@gmail.com veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
josh @ community cycles here.
free ride in pittsburgh has some awesome diy stands, the design for which i've stolen for our shop. they're made 100% from bike parts.
here's what you need:
2 bmx bars with stems. 2 bmx forks. 2 sets of drop road bars, with stems. one top tube, which is the same inner diameter as the steerer tube on the bmx forks are outer diameter.
cut off the dropouts on both sets of forks. the bmx bars/stems are inserted into the bottom of the forks, one stem in each arm of the forks. this is the base, so that the steerer tube stands straight up. the top tube goes over this steerer tube, then the other fork (with road bars/stems inserted into it's arms), goes into the top of the top tube. the drop bars are turned so that the ends of the bars are hooks to hold a bike to be worked on. the bmx bars are wide enough that the stand can hold two bikes at once, without tipping over.
someone on the list i'm sure has some pics, which make the design much easier to figure out than my paltry description.
cheap, easy, diy, and best of all, it looks bikey, so people are into it...
On 9/28/07, Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc. urbanbikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
Don't know about grants but I have a few suggestions on necessary tools...
-Workstand (you don't need it, but it makes life wonderful ) -Ratcheting 14mm and 15mm wrench (indispensable for quickly removing
wheels)
-"Y" style hex tools with 8-9-10mm (everybody needs at least one of these
for brakes)
-Chain breakers (get both for 3/32 and 1/8in chains, i recommend the park
ones that you can change the pins out on, get plenty of extra pins too. you (or someone in your shop) WILL break these)
-At least 2 sets of Allen keys (they will get lost. it's handy to have
one "flip-out" set with the keys attached)
-Pedal wrenches (get good ones with a lot of leverage)
Perhaps we should all collaborate on a more comprehensive list to put up
on the wiki "Bike Collective Starter Kit". I skimmed the pages but didn't find one.
Happy Friday!
Brian Windle Urban Bike Project of Wilmington
On 9/28/07, Ariel raymon < bikefarm@gmail.com > wrote:
Hey everyone, Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into a shop,
and are looking at the tools we need to purchase.
Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would be really
helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the
UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for things
like this? Thanks,
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On 9/28/07, Liza Mattana pedals2people@gmail.com wrote:
...one job we do is flatten bikes for the village bicycle project in moscow, idaho. we just need to remove pedals, loosen stem bolts and turn the handle bars.
off topic, perhaps. but i ran into this problem a few weeks ago, and thought i'd bring it up.
we were organizing our storage unit(s), and a lot of our bikes had been flattened in this manner. which is awesome. anyway, whoever did the loosening of the stem bolts forgot to tighten them back when after flattening them. so when we'd go to pull the bike out of the pile, the bars would come out, leaving the rest of the bike in the pile, but still connected via cables, etc. royal pain.
don't forget to tighten the stem bolts once the bars are turned!
that's it...
Ok so weve discussed what tools we got and need and love(heart)...so dose anybody have any miraculous ideas on how to keep them...I HATE TOOL THEIFS!!! for some reason the theft has greatly increased,down here at Bicas!!! folks(scum bags) have gotten some crazy idea that they could steel our tools! over the last 2 months weve lost many 15 13 &10mm wrenches,3 cable cutters, channel locks, 14/15mm wracheting wrenches and others....i know its bound to happen but has anyone else tried to problem solved this one???
donald @Bicas
veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote: On 9/28/07, Liza Mattana pedals2people@gmail.com wrote: ...one job we do is flatten bikes for the village bicycle project in moscow, idaho. we just need to remove pedals, loosen stem bolts and turn the handle bars.
off topic, perhaps. but i ran into this problem a few weeks ago, and thought i'd bring it up.
we were organizing our storage unit(s), and a lot of our bikes had been flattened in this manner. which is awesome. anyway, whoever did the loosening of the stem bolts forgot to tighten them back when after flattening them. so when we'd go to pull the bike out of the pile, the bars would come out, leaving the rest of the bike in the pile, but still connected via cables, etc. royal pain.
don't forget to tighten the stem bolts once the bars are turned!
that's it...
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We used to lose box wrenches and such like crazy at Free Ride. Our new solution, which has really cut down on theft, is to create individual toolboxes that people check out. They give us an ID, or keys, or anything they don't want to leave behind that night; we give them a box with a list on the top of its contents. 8-15 mm wrenches, a y socket key, a y-allen key tool, and 4,5,6 size allen wrenches.
Other tools are in a large toolchest that is publicly available. Except specialized expensive stuff; that's locked up in a box that staff can get out when the need/request arises. Stuff goes missing sometimes from the big public toolbox, but the hemorrhage of box wrenches and y-sockets has stopped; it is extremely rare that anything is found missing at the end of the night from peoples' toolboxes, in fact we generally have the problem that they drop all sorts of extra stuff in there (why is it you thought the next person might need your used brake pads or rusty kickstand hardware?)
-Jessica
--- donaldo donaldson donaldodonaldson@yahoo.com wrote:
Ok so weve discussed what tools we got and need and love(heart)...so dose anybody have any miraculous ideas on how to keep them...I HATE TOOL THEIFS!!! for some reason the theft has greatly increased,down here at Bicas!!! folks(scum bags) have gotten some crazy idea that they could steel our tools! over the last 2 months weve lost many 15 13 &10mm wrenches,3 cable cutters, channel locks, 14/15mm wracheting wrenches and others....i know its bound to happen but has anyone else tried to problem solved this one???
donald @Bicasveganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote: On 9/28/07, Liza Mattana pedals2people@gmail.com wrote: ...one job we do is flatten bikes for the village bicycle project in moscow, idaho. we just need to remove pedals, loosen stem bolts and turn the handle bars.
off topic, perhaps. but i ran into this problem a few weeks ago, and thought i'd bring it up.
we were organizing our storage unit(s), and a lot of our bikes had been flattened in this manner. which is awesome. anyway, whoever did the loosening of the stem bolts forgot to tighten them back when after flattening them. so when we'd go to pull the bike out of the pile, the bars would come out, leaving the rest of the bike in the pile, but still connected via cables, etc. royal pain.
don't forget to tighten the stem bolts once the bars are turned!
that's it...
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FR's toolboxen also include 2 screwdrivers, in case anyone is thinking of implementing a similar system.
On 9/28/07, Jessica McPherson jessica_mcp@yahoo.com wrote:
We used to lose box wrenches and such like crazy at Free Ride. Our new solution, which has really cut down on theft, is to create individual toolboxes that people check out. They give us an ID, or keys, or anything they don't want to leave behind that night; we give them a box with a list on the top of its contents. 8-15 mm wrenches, a y socket key, a y-allen key tool, and 4,5,6 size allen wrenches.
Other tools are in a large toolchest that is publicly available. Except specialized expensive stuff; that's locked up in a box that staff can get out when the need/request arises. Stuff goes missing sometimes from the big public toolbox, but the hemorrhage of box wrenches and y-sockets has stopped; it is extremely rare that anything is found missing at the end of the night from peoples' toolboxes, in fact we generally have the problem that they drop all sorts of extra stuff in there (why is it you thought the next person might need your used brake pads or rusty kickstand hardware?)
-Jessica
--- donaldo donaldson donaldodonaldson@yahoo.com wrote:
Ok so weve discussed what tools we got and need and love(heart)...so dose anybody have any miraculous ideas on how to keep them...I HATE TOOL THEIFS!!! for some reason the theft has greatly increased,down here at Bicas!!! folks(scum bags) have gotten some crazy idea that they could steel our tools! over the last 2 months weve lost many 15 13 &10mm wrenches,3 cable cutters, channel locks, 14/15mm wracheting wrenches and others....i know its bound to happen but has anyone else tried to problem solved this one??? donald @Bicas
veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote: On 9/28/07, Liza Mattana pedals2people@gmail.com wrote: ...one job we do is flatten bikes for the village bicycle project in moscow, idaho. we just need to remove pedals, loosen stem bolts and turn the handle bars.
off topic, perhaps. but i ran into this problem a few weeks ago, and thought i'd bring it up.
we were organizing our storage unit(s), and a lot of our bikes had been flattened in this manner. which is awesome. anyway, whoever did the loosening of the stem bolts forgot to tighten them back when after flattening them. so when we'd go to pull the bike out of the pile, the bars would come out, leaving the rest of the bike in the pile, but still connected via cables, etc. royal pain.
don't forget to tighten the stem bolts once the bars are turned!
that's it...
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One loss prevention idea that someone else (don't remember who) at BikeBike brought up is having shop aprons with pockets for clients to borrow so that instead of putting small tools in their own pockets and walking off with them accidentally, they put them in the apron pockets and then return them at the end of the day
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Does any group engrave/etch tools to help prevent theft? I don't know if this would be a deterrent but if anyone out there does it it would be worth hearing about...
Brian Urban Bike Project of Wilmington
On 9/29/07, mike eng mrengy@gmail.com wrote:
One loss prevention idea that someone else (don't remember who) at BikeBike brought up is having shop aprons with pockets for clients to borrow so that instead of putting small tools in their own pockets and walking off with them accidentally, they put them in the apron pockets and then return them at the end of the day
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Continuity of shop staff seems to be making an impact on shop behaviors in general at the Sopo shop.. that and having an organized shop space. I'm there 100% of the time now, and every part and tool has a place to go. It's a lot harder for both adults and teens to pull fast ones or conveniently forget to put something away, and we seem to be collecting a lot more cash donations since there's one person to hand it all to and items are easy to find.
I know it's hard to do this unless you're paying someone to be there all the time (which is what we just started doing .. fingers crossed on the fundraising front.. I'll post up all of my fun Foundation Center research at some point in the near future, although I only looked up foundations headquartered in Atlanta.. I did go to a workshop on internet-based fundraising, and I'll pass all of that info along to y'all).
Likewise, we count some items as consumables (15 mm box wrenches, chainbreakers), and we keep fragile and likely to be stolen tools in a locked cabinet (cable cutter, fourth hand). And everyone knows that I will keep them there until those cable cutters are put back in my hands at the end of the day. I'm very serious about the cable cutters. Maybe showing everyone that the tools matter to Sopo staff helps encourage good shop behavior, too.
Additionally, we created a "to be sorted" bucket for new donations and tools that get left out. It creates a no experience necessary volunteer job, and it catches items that might otherwise wander off or get left outside. It functions a lot like a library reshelving system.
On a somewhat related note, we've started attaching tags to some of the tools that explain how to use them, or indicate that one should ask for help if unfamiliar with the tool. For example, we put tags on cable cutters and housing cutters to differentiate their usage. (By the way, when did my writing get so corporate?)
Of course, none of this is foolproof, and no one method works alone. Keep the suggestions coming!
-rachael
On 10/1/07, Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc. < urbanbikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:
Does any group engrave/etch tools to help prevent theft? I don't know if this would be a deterrent but if anyone out there does it it would be worth hearing about...
Brian Urban Bike Project of Wilmington
On 9/29/07, mike eng mrengy@gmail.com wrote:
One loss prevention idea that someone else (don't remember who) at BikeBike brought up is having shop aprons with pockets for clients to borrow so that instead of putting small tools in their own pockets and walking off with them accidentally, they put them in the apron pockets and then return them at the end of the day
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Each of our workstations has the basic tools on a peg board with each tool outlined/labeled. We then color coded the tools for each workstation. Thus at a glance one can see if something is missing or put back at the wrong workstation. We still loose the odd tool but I think most of them are taken by mistake.
http://www.re-cycles.ca/images/stations.jpg
Chris --- donaldo donaldson donaldodonaldson@yahoo.com wrote:
Ok so weve discussed what tools we got and need and love(heart)...so dose anybody have any miraculous ideas on how to keep them...I HATE TOOL THEIFS!!! for some reason the theft has greatly increased,down here at Bicas!!! folks(scum bags) have gotten some crazy idea that they could steel our tools! over the last 2 months weve lost many 15 13 &10mm wrenches,3 cable cutters, channel locks, 14/15mm wracheting wrenches and others....i know its bound to happen but has anyone else tried to problem solved this one???
donald @Bicasveganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote: On 9/28/07, Liza Mattana pedals2people@gmail.com wrote: ...one job we do is flatten bikes for the village bicycle project in moscow, idaho. we just need to remove pedals, loosen stem bolts and turn the handle bars.
off topic, perhaps. but i ran into this problem a few weeks ago, and thought i'd bring it up.
we were organizing our storage unit(s), and a lot of our bikes had been flattened in this manner. which is awesome. anyway, whoever did the loosening of the stem bolts forgot to tighten them back when after flattening them. so when we'd go to pull the bike out of the pile, the bars would come out, leaving the rest of the bike in the pile, but still connected via cables, etc. royal pain.
don't forget to tighten the stem bolts once the bars are turned!
that's it...
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would love to see some pics of this freeriders?
andrew http://troybikerescue.org
veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
josh @ community cycles here.
free ride in pittsburgh has some awesome diy stands, the design for which i've stolen for our shop. they're made 100% from bike parts.
here's what you need:
2 bmx bars with stems. 2 bmx forks. 2 sets of drop road bars, with stems. one top tube, which is the same inner diameter as the steerer tube on the bmx forks are outer diameter.
cut off the dropouts on both sets of forks. the bmx bars/stems are inserted into the bottom of the forks, one stem in each arm of the forks. this is the base, so that the steerer tube stands straight up. the top tube goes over this steerer tube, then the other fork (with road bars/stems inserted into it's arms), goes into the top of the top tube. the drop bars are turned so that the ends of the bars are hooks to hold a bike to be worked on. the bmx bars are wide enough that the stand can hold two bikes at once, without tipping over.
someone on the list i'm sure has some pics, which make the design much easier to figure out than my paltry description.
cheap, easy, diy, and best of all, it looks bikey, so people are into it...
On 9/28/07, *Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc.* <urbanbikeproject@gmail.com mailto:urbanbikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't know about grants but I have a few suggestions on necessary tools... -Workstand (you don't need it, but it makes life wonderful ) -Ratcheting 14mm and 15mm wrench (indispensable for quickly removing wheels) -"Y" style hex tools with 8-9-10mm (everybody needs at least one of these for brakes) -Chain breakers (get both for 3/32 and 1/8in chains, i recommend the park ones that you can change the pins out on, get plenty of extra pins too. you (or someone in your shop) WILL break these) -At least 2 sets of Allen keys (they will get lost. it's handy to have one "flip-out" set with the keys attached) -Pedal wrenches (get good ones with a lot of leverage) Perhaps we should all collaborate on a more comprehensive list to put up on the wiki "Bike Collective Starter Kit". I skimmed the pages but didn't find one. Happy Friday! Brian Windle Urban Bike Project of Wilmington On 9/28/07, *Ariel raymon* < bikefarm@gmail.com <mailto:bikefarm@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey everyone, Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into a shop, and are looking at the tools we need to purchase. Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would be really helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for things like this? Thanks, Ariel _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org> -- Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org>
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Me too!
"andrew L." anyone@breathingplanet.net wrote: would love to see some pics of this freeriders?
andrew http://troybikerescue.org
veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
josh @ community cycles here.
free ride in pittsburgh has some awesome diy stands, the design for which i've stolen for our shop. they're made 100% from bike parts.
here's what you need:
2 bmx bars with stems. 2 bmx forks. 2 sets of drop road bars, with stems. one top tube, which is the same inner diameter as the steerer tube on the bmx forks are outer diameter.
cut off the dropouts on both sets of forks. the bmx bars/stems are inserted into the bottom of the forks, one stem in each arm of the forks. this is the base, so that the steerer tube stands straight up. the top tube goes over this steerer tube, then the other fork (with road bars/stems inserted into it's arms), goes into the top of the top tube. the drop bars are turned so that the ends of the bars are hooks to hold a bike to be worked on. the bmx bars are wide enough that the stand can hold two bikes at once, without tipping over.
someone on the list i'm sure has some pics, which make the design much easier to figure out than my paltry description.
cheap, easy, diy, and best of all, it looks bikey, so people are into it...
On 9/28/07, *Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc.*
wrote:
Don't know about grants but I have a few suggestions on necessary tools... -Workstand (you don't need it, but it makes life wonderful ) -Ratcheting 14mm and 15mm wrench (indispensable for quickly removing wheels) -"Y" style hex tools with 8-9-10mm (everybody needs at least one of these for brakes) -Chain breakers (get both for 3/32 and 1/8in chains, i recommend the park ones that you can change the pins out on, get plenty of extra pins too. you (or someone in your shop) WILL break these) -At least 2 sets of Allen keys (they will get lost. it's handy to have one "flip-out" set with the keys attached) -Pedal wrenches (get good ones with a lot of leverage) Perhaps we should all collaborate on a more comprehensive list to put up on the wiki "Bike Collective Starter Kit". I skimmed the pages but didn't find one. Happy Friday! Brian Windle Urban Bike Project of Wilmington On 9/28/07, *Ariel raymon* < bikefarm@gmail.com > wrote: Hey everyone, Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into a shop, and are looking at the tools we need to purchase. Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would be really helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for things like this? Thanks, Ariel _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org -- Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
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Hi Where can i find the pictures? thanks
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:47:10 -0700From: great_land_trust@sbcglobal.netTo: thethinktank@bikecollectives.orgSubject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Tools for starters - diy standsMe too!"andrew L." anyone@breathingplanet.net wrote: would love to see some pics of thisfreeriders?andrewhttp://troybikerescue.orgveganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:> josh @ community cycles here.> > free ride in pittsburgh has some awesome diy stands, the design for > which i've stolen for our shop. they're made 100% from bike parts.> > here's what you need:> > 2 bmx bars with stems.> 2 bmx forks.> 2 sets of drop road bars, with stems.> one top tube, which is the same inner diameter as the steerer tube on > the bmx forks are outer diameter.> > cut off the dropouts on both sets of forks. the bmx bars/stems are > inserted into the bottom of the forks, one stem in each arm of the > forks. this is the base, so that the steerer tube stands straight up. > the top tube goes over this steerer tube, then the other fork (with road > bars/stems inserted into it's arms), goes into the top of the top tube. > the drop bars are turned so that the ends of the bars are hooks to hold > a bike to be worked on. the bmx bars are wide enough that the stand can > hold two bikes at once, without tipping over.> > someone on the list i'm sure has some pics, which make the design much > easier to figure out than my paltry description.> > cheap, easy, diy, and best of all, it looks bikey, so people are into it...> > > > > > On 9/28/07, *Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc.* > > wrote:> > Don't know about grants but I have a few suggestions on necessary> tools...> > -Workstand (you don't need it, but it makes life wonderful )> -Ratcheting 14mm and 15mm wrench (indispensable for quickly removing> wheels)> -"Y" style hex tools with 8-9-10mm (everybody needs at least one of> these for brakes)> -Chain breakers (get both for 3/32 and 1/8in chains, i recommend the> park ones that you can change the pins out on, get plenty of extra> pins too. you (or someone in your shop) WILL break these)> -At least 2 sets of Allen keys (they will get lost. it's handy to> have one "flip-out" set with the keys attached)> -Pedal wrenches (get good ones with a lot of leverage)> > Perhaps we should all collaborate on a more comprehensive list to> put up on the wiki "Bike Collective Starter Kit". I skimmed the> pages but didn't find one.> > Happy Friday!> > Brian Windle> Urban Bike Project of Wilmington> > On 9/28/07, *Ariel raymon* < bikefarm@gmail.com> > wrote:> > Hey everyone,> Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into> a shop, and are looking at the tools we need to purchase.> Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would> be really helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the> UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for> things like this? Thanks,> Ariel> > _______________________________________________> Thethinktank mailing list> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... > > > > > -- > Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org%3E _______________________________________________> Thethinktank mailing list> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Thethinktank mailing list> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... andrew lynn | media worker | 518-573-7947---------------------------------------------troy new york | http://www.breathingplanet.net______________________________________________... mailing listThethinktank@bikecollectives.orghttp://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
Hmm. "Bare minimum" and "functioning." That could mean a lot of things. I'll assume you've got some money.
I disagree with ratchets and pedal wrenches being essential. You can use a 30.-something (big fat) seatpost that's bent as a small dummy bar. We also have a salvaged length of steel pipe about four feet long that fits over most any wrench or tool. This provides excellent leverage and has saved my ass many times.
A workstand. No way around it really. We found a used double Park stand. -- 1 large adjustable wrench. -- A set of metric wrenches. 6-19mm is nice, but 8-15mm is absolutely essential. You'll probably want doubles on the 13, 14, and 15. You can get crap Chinese ones for a while, but the box end will round out really quickly. Sturdy pricey American-made ones are worth it for longevity. -- Spoke wrench. Also, truing stands are pricey but wheels are trouble enough without one. -- Cone wrenches. We lived with the double-ended Park ones for a year and a half, but the blue-handled ones are excellent (quality and leverage-wise). A set of 13mm through 17 or 18mm will do it. -- A caliper wrench, for brakes. It's a Park wrench with open-ended 8mm and 10mm. Old brakes are really touchy on the spring tension and if you don't lock the adjustment, the brakes will work themselves loose and fall off. Not safe. -- Set of hex keys. You can get any old metric set. The Park set comes in a sheath and has every size I've ever used on a bike. The long end has a diamondy-shaped head so you can use it at an angle in tight clearance. We've had these for two years and never lost or broken one. -- Crank extractor. Not the Isis drive one. Regular ol' puller. There's a double-sided socket wrench (14mm and 15mm) for removing and reinstalling the nuts (absolutely crucial). For cotter cranks, you can improvise a punch with an old pedal axle. -- Ball peen hammer. -- Lockring tool. There's an adjustable crap one, and there's a fucking sweet one with a chainwhip on the other end that is a pleasure to use. Also for bottom brackets -- a pin spanner, but you can get away with an improvised awl and hammer (expect this method to fuck up a lot of BBs, though). -- Chain tool. I'd say start with a couple of the "mini brute" with extra pins, but you can also file the smushed-down pins back into round. What I like about the mini brute is it has a section for spreading the bushings to remove stiff links. -- Some metal files from a pawnshop are cheap and great for all kinds of things, especially for cleaning up rusty threads. -- Cable cutters. -- Pliers. Another pawn shop endeavor. -- Air pump(s). Rebuildable ones are great. We find the life of a high-usage pump is greatly extended by using a presta valve adapter, which are a few cents apiece in bulk. -- Tire levers. Crucial. Metal ones last longer but don't slide on the rim as well as plastic.
Also, a vice is also very, very handy for a lot of things, like getting the pedal off a rounded crank. We've got a bench mount one. I can't imagine overhauling or adjusting a hub without an axle vice.
You'll also need chemicals.
-- Grease. We use tubs of red grease from the auto store. It's cheap and light enough for bearings that don't run hot (as in bikes). Stay away from the real stiff grease. -- Chain lube. So far we're running on donations on this. I like the Syn Lube a lot. I hate White Lightning because it makes a noisy chain. Pedro's Ice Wax has been very good to me. We have a gallon and are pleased. -- Penetrating oil. Tri-Flo is expensive but the best I've used, so throw this on squeaky derailleur pulleys and two-drops-will-do stuff. Liquid Wrench is a good cheap one for letting set on stuck seatposts and corroded threads and the like. -- Degreaser. We get the orange citrus stuff by the gallon from the dollar store. A spray bottle of it is great.
I also use a lot of steel wool. A bag of medium and a bag of superfine covers the bases pretty well. Wire brushes are also excellent to have. Ah, and sandpaper for cable rehab.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm headed in to the ol' Bike City now, so I'll keep an eye on what else I can't function without.
I'd love to help on the Wiki, by the way.
--andrea Bike City Recyclery, Fayetteville, AR
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Colin Bennett < great_land_trust@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Me too!
*"andrew L." anyone@breathingplanet.net* wrote:
would love to see some pics of this freeriders?
andrew http://troybikerescue.org
veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
josh @ community cycles here.
free ride in pittsburgh has some awesome diy stands, the design for which i've stolen for our shop. they're made 100% from bike parts.
here's what you need:
2 bmx bars with stems. 2 bmx forks. 2 sets of drop road bars, with stems. one top tube, which is the same inner diameter as the steerer tube on the bmx forks are outer diameter.
cut off the dropouts on both sets of forks. the bmx bars/stems are inserted into the bottom of the forks, one stem in each arm of the forks. this is the base, so that the steerer tube stands straight up. the top tube goes over this steerer tube, then the other fork (with road bars/stems inserted into it's arms), goes into the top of the top tube. the drop bars are turned so that the ends of the bars are hooks to hold a bike to be worked on. the bmx bars are wide enough that the stand can hold two bikes at once, without tipping over.
someone on the list i'm sure has some pics, which make the design much easier to figure out than my paltry description.
cheap, easy, diy, and best of all, it looks bikey, so people are into
it...
On 9/28/07, *Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc.*
wrote:
Don't know about grants but I have a few suggestions on necessary tools...
-Workstand (you don't need it, but it makes life wonderful ) -Ratcheting 14mm and 15mm wrench (indispensable for quickly removing wheels) -"Y" style hex tools with 8-9-10mm (everybody needs at least one of these for brakes) -Chain breakers (get both for 3/32 and 1/8in chains, i recommend the park ones that you can change the pins out on, get plenty of extra pins too. you (or someone in your shop) WILL break these) -At least 2 sets of Allen keys (they will get lost. it's handy to have one "flip-out" set with the keys attached) -Pedal wrenches (get good ones with a lot of leverage)
Perhaps we should all collaborate on a more comprehensive list to put up on the wiki "Bike Collective Starter Kit". I skimmed the pages but didn't find one.
Happy Friday!
Brian Windle Urban Bike Project of Wilmington
On 9/28/07, *Ariel raymon* < bikefarm@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey everyone, Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into a shop, and are looking at the tools we need to purchase. Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would be really helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for things like this? Thanks, Ariel
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there is a picture of our diy stands here: http://www.freeridepgh.org/html/uses.html -erok
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Bike City bikecityrecyclery@gmail.comwrote:
Hmm. "Bare minimum" and "functioning." That could mean a lot of things. I'll assume you've got some money.
I disagree with ratchets and pedal wrenches being essential. You can use a 30.-something (big fat) seatpost that's bent as a small dummy bar. We also have a salvaged length of steel pipe about four feet long that fits over most any wrench or tool. This provides excellent leverage and has saved my ass many times.
A workstand. No way around it really. We found a used double Park stand. -- 1 large adjustable wrench. -- A set of metric wrenches. 6-19mm is nice, but 8-15mm is absolutely essential. You'll probably want doubles on the 13, 14, and 15. You can get crap Chinese ones for a while, but the box end will round out really quickly. Sturdy pricey American-made ones are worth it for longevity. -- Spoke wrench. Also, truing stands are pricey but wheels are trouble enough without one. -- Cone wrenches. We lived with the double-ended Park ones for a year and a half, but the blue-handled ones are excellent (quality and leverage-wise). A set of 13mm through 17 or 18mm will do it. -- A caliper wrench, for brakes. It's a Park wrench with open-ended 8mm and 10mm. Old brakes are really touchy on the spring tension and if you don't lock the adjustment, the brakes will work themselves loose and fall off. Not safe. -- Set of hex keys. You can get any old metric set. The Park set comes in a sheath and has every size I've ever used on a bike. The long end has a diamondy-shaped head so you can use it at an angle in tight clearance. We've had these for two years and never lost or broken one. -- Crank extractor. Not the Isis drive one. Regular ol' puller. There's a double-sided socket wrench (14mm and 15mm) for removing and reinstalling the nuts (absolutely crucial). For cotter cranks, you can improvise a punch with an old pedal axle. -- Ball peen hammer. -- Lockring tool. There's an adjustable crap one, and there's a fucking sweet one with a chainwhip on the other end that is a pleasure to use. Also for bottom brackets -- a pin spanner, but you can get away with an improvised awl and hammer (expect this method to fuck up a lot of BBs, though). -- Chain tool. I'd say start with a couple of the "mini brute" with extra pins, but you can also file the smushed-down pins back into round. What I like about the mini brute is it has a section for spreading the bushings to remove stiff links. -- Some metal files from a pawnshop are cheap and great for all kinds of things, especially for cleaning up rusty threads. -- Cable cutters. -- Pliers. Another pawn shop endeavor. -- Air pump(s). Rebuildable ones are great. We find the life of a high-usage pump is greatly extended by using a presta valve adapter, which are a few cents apiece in bulk. -- Tire levers. Crucial. Metal ones last longer but don't slide on the rim as well as plastic.
Also, a vice is also very, very handy for a lot of things, like getting the pedal off a rounded crank. We've got a bench mount one. I can't imagine overhauling or adjusting a hub without an axle vice.
You'll also need chemicals.
-- Grease. We use tubs of red grease from the auto store. It's cheap and light enough for bearings that don't run hot (as in bikes). Stay away from the real stiff grease. -- Chain lube. So far we're running on donations on this. I like the Syn Lube a lot. I hate White Lightning because it makes a noisy chain. Pedro's Ice Wax has been very good to me. We have a gallon and are pleased. -- Penetrating oil. Tri-Flo is expensive but the best I've used, so throw this on squeaky derailleur pulleys and two-drops-will-do stuff. Liquid Wrench is a good cheap one for letting set on stuck seatposts and corroded threads and the like. -- Degreaser. We get the orange citrus stuff by the gallon from the dollar store. A spray bottle of it is great.
I also use a lot of steel wool. A bag of medium and a bag of superfine covers the bases pretty well. Wire brushes are also excellent to have. Ah, and sandpaper for cable rehab.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm headed in to the ol' Bike City now, so I'll keep an eye on what else I can't function without.
I'd love to help on the Wiki, by the way.
--andrea Bike City Recyclery, Fayetteville, AR
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Colin Bennett < great_land_trust@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Me too!
*"andrew L." anyone@breathingplanet.net* wrote:
would love to see some pics of this freeriders?
andrew http://troybikerescue.org
veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
josh @ community cycles here.
free ride in pittsburgh has some awesome diy stands, the design for which i've stolen for our shop. they're made 100% from bike parts.
here's what you need:
2 bmx bars with stems. 2 bmx forks. 2 sets of drop road bars, with stems. one top tube, which is the same inner diameter as the steerer tube on the bmx forks are outer diameter.
cut off the dropouts on both sets of forks. the bmx bars/stems are inserted into the bottom of the forks, one stem in each arm of the forks. this is the base, so that the steerer tube stands straight up. the top tube goes over this steerer tube, then the other fork (with road
bars/stems inserted into it's arms), goes into the top of the top tube. the drop bars are turned so that the ends of the bars are hooks to hold a bike to be worked on. the bmx bars are wide enough that the stand can hold two bikes at once, without tipping over.
someone on the list i'm sure has some pics, which make the design much easier to figure out than my paltry description.
cheap, easy, diy, and best of all, it looks bikey, so people are into
it...
On 9/28/07, *Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc.*
wrote:
Don't know about grants but I have a few suggestions on necessary tools...
-Workstand (you don't need it, but it makes life wonderful ) -Ratcheting 14mm and 15mm wrench (indispensable for quickly removing wheels) -"Y" style hex tools with 8-9-10mm (everybody needs at least one of these for brakes) -Chain breakers (get both for 3/32 and 1/8in chains, i recommend the park ones that you can change the pins out on, get plenty of extra pins too. you (or someone in your shop) WILL break these) -At least 2 sets of Allen keys (they will get lost. it's handy to have one "flip-out" set with the keys attached) -Pedal wrenches (get good ones with a lot of leverage)
Perhaps we should all collaborate on a more comprehensive list to put up on the wiki "Bike Collective Starter Kit". I skimmed the pages but didn't find one.
Happy Friday!
Brian Windle Urban Bike Project of Wilmington
On 9/28/07, *Ariel raymon* < bikefarm@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey everyone, Ariel from bikefarm here. We're starting to make our space into a shop, and are looking at the tools we need to purchase. Suggestions on bare minimum tools for a funcitoning shop would be really helpful, as we'll be making a large order from the UBI distributors in a month or so. Also, Are there grants for things like this? Thanks, Ariel
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We've got a couple of this style at our shop. I'll snap some pictures this weekend and post them up if no one else has any.
Doug
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On 7/31/08, andrew L. anyone@breathingplanet.net wrote:
would love to see some pics of this freeriders?
andrew http://troybikerescue.org
veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
josh @ community cycles here.
free ride in pittsburgh has some awesome diy stands, the design for which i've stolen for our shop. they're made 100% from bike parts.
here's what you need:
2 bmx bars with stems. 2 bmx forks. 2 sets of drop road bars, with stems. one top tube, which is the same inner diameter as the steerer tube on the bmx forks are outer diameter.
cut off the dropouts on both sets of forks. the bmx bars/stems are inserted into the bottom of the forks, one stem in each arm of the forks. this is the base, so that the steerer tube stands straight up. the top tube goes over this steerer tube, then the other fork (with road bars/stems inserted into it's arms), goes into the top of the top tube. the drop bars are turned so that the ends of the bars are hooks to hold a bike to be worked on. the bmx bars are wide enough that the stand can hold two bikes at once, without tipping over.
someone on the list i'm sure has some pics, which make the design much easier to figure out than my paltry description.
cheap, easy, diy, and best of all, it looks bikey, so people are into it...
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