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Reusable Repair Checklist Tag
by director 02 May '23

02 May '23

Hey All, We just spent some time and redid the tag we use to track repairs on a bike. I'm sure your shops are similar to ours in that many mechanics of varying skill levels will work on a single bike before it's distributed back to the world for use. This make it challenging to ensure a standard of quality on any given bike leaving the shop. As we fleshed out the tag we realized that it could function loosely as a curriculum. For most mechanics, especially students we suggest starting at the top and working down the list. I've come to realize that no two mechanics will do things in the exact same way, everyone has their own style. We've been suggesting that folks do the first two items in order and then address the rest of the repairs at their discretion. Of course we couldn't put everything on a half page so we had to make compromises. You'll notice as you get closer to the bottom of the tag the categories are a little more broad and don't get into the finer details. We're working on a final check list that will include finer details like checking bearing play, tire wear, fine tune derailleurs and brakes... The final checklist won't hang on the bike but it'll be around the shop and part of our training. Stay tuned for this. We print these double sided, cut them in half and laminate them. We hang them on the handlebars and fill them out with a Sharpie. When the bike is done and gone we clean the Sharpie off with 90% rubbing alcohol and a rag. This allows us to use one tag over and over and over. We've been using these tags for about 2 weeks now and it's been awesome. Communication between mechanics is much clearer and bikes are getting done faster. It's really helped orient Earn-A-Bike students to what needs to be done next on their bike. Anyway if you think it's a good idea feel free to adapt it to your shops needs. -- Ride On! Rich Points http://communitycycles.org Executive Director (c)303-589-0597 (w)720-565-6019 Community Cycles is Boulder's only bike shop dedicated to bike commuting. Find us on facebook https://www.facebook.com/CommunityCycles

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no boys allowed zine from bikebike?
by veganboyjosh＠gmail.com 27 Sep '18

27 Sep '18

hey all, i'm looking to get in touch with the person who wrote/published the "no boys allowed" zine which was passed out at bikebike in san francisco. it was part of one of the oppression and gender identity issues workshops. we're looking to start a women's night here at community cycles, and i'd like to scan my copy as a pdf and email it to potential volunteers, as well as make some copies to have in the shop... if you're on the list, or if you know the person who wrote it (her name escapes me), please get in touch with me off list... thanks! josh. community cycles boulder

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members and sign up database software
by Jesse Cooper 23 Sep '15

23 Sep '15

Hey Folks! So at Our Community Bikes in Vancouver, we're thinking it's time to set up a proper sign in / sign out system, combined with a membership and volunteer database. Ideally we would like to know what software is out there that can track people coming in and using our space, a simple laptop or desktop kiosk where folks can type in info, and it would enter our database. Also to serve as a database that members can register into, and again wherein volunteers can sign up, and log their hours, and tasks accomplished. sooo.. any ideas? Jesse Cooper

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Utica Bike Rescue is online...for real now
by Matt VanSlyke 22 Nov '13

22 Nov '13

ThinkTank: Just want to spread the word because we're super excited about our fresh, new website. No more FB-only for us and what a relief! Check us out at www.UticaBikeRescue.org. And PS - if you need web design work, the developer who did our site is very, very good and is a very community-minded guy. He gives a lot of personal attention to the sites he builds and hosts and offers really nice deals for non-profits. Check out their portfolio at www.nosheepdesigns.com -- *Matt VanSlyke* *Utica Bike Rescue* *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* *315.525.9554* *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org <matt(a)uticabikerescue.org>* *www.uticabikerescue.org <http://www.uticabikerescue.org/>* *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue <http://www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue>* *Learn. Earn. Ride.*

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Shop market analysis
by summitcyclingcenter＠yahoo.com 22 Nov '13

22 Nov '13

Hi According to Bicycle Retailer and Industry News, the average LBS grosses $700,000.00/yr. However, you have to dial it down to your local market. IMO, most community bike shops don't come close to competing on dollar volume. Look at your LBS(S), who are their customers? In our situation, we are in the inner city. There are no shops in this city. All are out in suburban communities. They are marketing to those with more disposable income. They sell recreation. We sell transportation and sustainable living. SCC is not in competition with our LBSs Sent from my HTC EVO Design™ 4G from Boost Mobile ----- Reply message ----- From: scott(a)gknightride.org To: <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: [TheThinkTank] Bike Shop market analysis Date: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:19 pm Hi all - I was wondering if anyone who has a bike co-op or non-profit/community shop looked at bike-related sales tax revenues before and through the existence of the shop, or done any market research to show that shops like these are market expanding, and do not necessarily compete with the local traditional for-profit shops. We have several opportunities to go after some economic advancement grants, and would love to show this. as well, we would love to use this data over the years to track local growth of cycling sales as one proxy for participation. Thanks! Scott ConlinBoardmemberBicycle LongmontLongmont, CO

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Bike Rodeo Kit
by Matt VanSlyke 20 Nov '13

20 Nov '13

ThinkTank: I am writing a grant to fund the purchase of a kit to set up and conduct bike rodeos community-wide. Can anyone point me in a good direction so that I can develop an itemized list of needed supplies and costs? I have a good idea of what we need but I want to include a very detailed budget with specific items included. I think I remember seeing some info on the Wiki but that's obviously an issue right now due to the malware situation. Anyone have a good source? Thanks, Matt -- *Matt VanSlyke* *Utica Bike Rescue* *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* *315.525.9554* *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* *www.uticabikerescue.org* *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* *Learn. Earn. Ride.*

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Winterizing Resources
by chris turner 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

Hi Sam, We've done lots of winter cycling clinics in the past, but haven't developed any resources that we can share. You're already planning on hitting a lot of what we've found to be the important stuff (studded tires, cleaning/lubing, how to dress). Do you plan on teaching folks to stud their own tires? That's always been popular, and it makes it easier for some folks to start riding through the winter. Wanda mentioned this already, but I want to second the importance of talking about winter routes. It's been my experience at that this has been the biggest barrier for folks that show up for winter clinics. Typically, these folks ride the rest of the year, but their normal routes are uncomfortable to ride (or are not ride-able) in the winter. It's really helpful to suggest some alternate routes for folks whose commute paths get much worse with the weather. Chris Turner Off the Chain Anchorage, AK

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POS for a Non-profit Bike Shop
by Σαμαν Χαριμπ 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

Hi Folks, I'm volunteering at a community bike shop in East Vancouver, BC, called Kickstand <https://www.facebook.com/Eastvan.Kickstand> . We are looking for a POS to use here. What POS are using and what do you suggest we should use? Did any of you attend the Bike!Bike! <https://www.bikebike.org/> conference workshop about different POS systems? Also is anyone using Erply<http://erply.com/windows-point-of-sale-pos-download/>? What do you think of that? Bike love from Vancouver, Saw-mon

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Articles of incorporation and bylaws
by Justin Pogge 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

after over 10 years of running without any sort of tax status or business license, Krank It Up Community Bicycle Project has decided to apply for 501(c)3 status. we run as a collective and we want to create bylaws that reflect that model. i know that some shops had there articles and bylaws posted on the bikecollective wiki site, but these documents seem currently unaccessible. would you be willing to email these documents to us to help us create our bylaws? thanks Justin oldfieldcycles(a)gmail.com -- www.oldfieldcycles.blogspot.com

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Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free?
by mike r 15 Nov '13

15 Nov '13

Hello, I'm in NY the "litigation state" and am trying to get my former employer, a BIG Ten employer to organize a bike collection event at their local manufacturing facility. The company has DEEP pockets so they get concerned about the potential for liability in the event that a donated bike ends up injuring someone due to defects that existed when it was donated, or that occurred when it was repaired before it was given away. Let me know your experience with this, from legal prospective, please don't reply with complaints about the "system" as we all know the system s**ks! Thanks, Mike

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Bike Winterizing Resources
by Samuel 14 Nov '13

14 Nov '13

Hi folks, I'm trying to put together a riding in winter workshop at the Bike Library and was wondering if anyone knew of any resources I could draw on. Has anyone has success with this sort of thing in the past? Any thoughts on what sort of stuff should be covered? We're in Iowa, so I was planning on focusing on studded tires, fenders, cleaning and lubing regularly, and dressing for the weather. Any other ideas on stuff to cover? Thanks Sam, Iowa City Bike Library www.bikelibrary.org

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Call tomorrow: sales for community bike shops
by Mary Lauran Hall 12 Nov '13

12 Nov '13

Hi folks! Tomorrow we're hosting a call on community bike shop sales -- various shops' practices for using upcycled bikes as a revenue model, point of sale logistics, avoiding stepping on toes of local bike shops, eBay, and lots more. See below for deets. Three panelists will be on to discuss how sales work at their shops, then we'll have room for discussion. Hope you can join us! Mary Lauran *Sales for Community Bike Shops* *Wednesday, November 13, 2013* *2:00 PM to 3:00 PM eastern* *Register online here <http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/EventRegistration-…>* Selling new and reclaimed bike components and accessories is an important part of many community bike shops' models. On this call, leaders from community bike shop will talk in-depth about their shops' practices for sales, including point of sale software, permissions, and price policies. Panelists will include: - *Henry Dunbar*, Executive Director, Phoenix Bikes (Arlington, VA) - *Davey Davis*, Executive Director, Bicycle Collective (Salt Lake City) - *Karen Overton*, Executive Director, Recycle-A-Bicycle (NYC) [image: Register button]<http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/EventRegistration-…> -- Mary Lauran Hall Communications Manager Alliance for Biking & Walking mlhall(a)peoplepoweredmovement.org (202) 642 - 6617 P.O. Box 65150 Washington, DC 20035 www.peoplepoweredmovement.org Twitter <https://twitter.com/bikewalk> | Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/peoplepoweredmovement>| Instagram <http://instagram.com/bikewalk> | Flickr<http://www.flickr.com/photos/thunderheadalliance> *Win dollars for local transportation. Check out Advocacy Advance's new report on passing bicycle and pedestrian ballot measures. <http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/blog/4677/>*

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free?
by Vernon Huffman 10 Nov '13

10 Nov '13

It is quite rare for a person to be injured because of the condition of a bicycle. Perhaps they'll have to ride slower or stop. Riding in traffic or over rough surfaces can be dangerous no matter what condition the bike is in. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know of any case where a bike shop was successfully sued for damages from a bike accident. On Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:58 PM, "thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org" <thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free? (james bledsoe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:01:42 -0800 (PST) From: james bledsoe <jamesbleds0e(a)yahoo.com> To: mike r <rozdol(a)yahoo.com>, The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free? Message-ID: <1384113702.52517.YahooMailNeo(a)web140803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Could the collection be done has effectively without the Big Ten guys? ? On Saturday, November 9, 2013 3:42 PM, mike r <rozdol(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hello, I'm in NY the "litigation state" and am trying to get my former employer, a BIG Ten employer to organize a bike collection event at their local manufacturing facility. The company has DEEP pockets so they get concerned about the potential for liability in the event that a donated bike ends up injuring someone due to defects that existed when it was donated, or that occurred when it was repaired before it was given away. Let me know your experience with this, from legal prospective, please don't reply with complaints about the "system" as we all know the system s**ks! Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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english/spanish bike repair zine/book
by the holla 09 Nov '13

09 Nov '13

Hey all, I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? thank you! Diana -- come disconnect the dots with me, poppet.

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Mission Statement Discussion on Loomio
by Darren Knox 06 Nov '13

06 Nov '13

Hey just a reminder y'all. We're having a discussion re: establishing a mission/values statement for bike!bike! If you're invested in the conference and the community bike shop world please participate in the conversation here: https://www.loomio.org/ discussions/7933 Here's what we have so far: The mission of B!B! is to foster growth and sustainability among community bicycle projects. B!B! provides a venue for community bike projects from around the world to network and “cross pollinate” to share ideas and tactics for (building a stronger and wider network of community bicycle projects). Since bike bike has no formal structure, this is entirely an "opt-in" consensus process (bike bike actually has no established decision making process so we're defaulting to consensus). Thus your input is INVALUABLE! Also, if you know of someone who might want to put in their 2c that isn't on FB or the Think Tank, please invite them to the discussion! Darren -- Volunteer Coordinator, Shop Coordinator www.therecyclery.org 7628 N. Paulina ▪ Chicago, IL 60626 ▪ 773.262.5900 *The Recyclery Collective seeks to build community through the restoration of donated and discarded bicycles.* Donate <http://www.therecyclery.org/donate> or volunteer!<http://www.therecyclery.org/volunteer>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 87, Issue 2
by jalaparoy＠gmail.com 05 Nov '13

05 Nov '13

Diana: There are excelente videos on YouTube from Spain from a store calles “Mamoth”, as well as a Google search which will give you lote of results. Roy “El Gringo Jalapeño” Pro-Ciclismo Xalapa México Enviado desde Correo de Windows De: thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Enviado el: ‎martes‎, ‎5‎ de ‎noviembre‎ de ‎2013 ‎03‎:‎23‎ ‎p. m. Para: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. english/spanish bike repair zine/book (the holla) 2. Re: english/spanish bike repair zine/book (Angelo Coletta) 3. Re: english/spanish bike repair zine/book (Dax Burgos) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:14:14 -0800 From: the holla <dholla(a)gmail.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: [TheThinkTank] english/spanish bike repair zine/book Message-ID: <CACZnU=2Jwp0NwV5p9e=4=bkv3gdMGQvcbqCDb0nkg-RrjuS92g(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey all, I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? thank you! Diana -- come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:55:39 -0800 (PST) From: Angelo Coletta <summitcyclingcenter(a)yahoo.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] english/spanish bike repair zine/book Message-ID: <1383663339.20343.YahooMailNeo(a)web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ciao Diana I give you two sources:? bemi.free.fr/biciklo????? and?????? www,parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=152 ? BTW- Was that holla for help or hola for hello?? I confess to a pang of envy.? I have a thing for human powered machines.? It would be a lot of fun to read about your experiences.? Please keep me in your loop via blog, email, facebook, or other means. Regards Angelo L. Coletta ? On Monday, November 4, 2013 9:15 PM, the holla <dholla(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hey all, I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? thank you! Diana -- come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 07:56:52 -0700 From: Dax Burgos <manager(a)communitycycles.org> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] english/spanish bike repair zine/book Message-ID: <CAHnRhomVWiYCvMojbbK=ibsG_c+3UbqTDW0WAHWcLpgFjGiH=Q(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sheldon brown website have English to Spanish translations for parts On Monday, November 4, 2013, the holla wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. > Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native > English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? > > thank you! > Diana > > -- > come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. > -- Dax Burgos Community Cycles 2805 Wilderness Pl 720-565-6019 manager(a)communitycycles.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… End of Thethinktank Digest, Vol 87, Issue 2 *******************************************

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Fw: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 86, Issue 55
by Matt VanSlyke 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

Lots of good thoughts here Vernon, thanks for taking the time to spell them out so clearly. Suffice it to say that we have thought about most of what you mentioned. We've borrowed a kit from our local AAA office that has worked okay in the past. But we need something more complete. I completely agree with you about the strict obedience issue. And it's why I continue to resist the urge to go the LCI route. We've learned from experience that strict application of traffic laws, especially for our inner city refugee teens, can often inadvertently make them targets for violent behavior and bike theft. Sometimes it isn't a good idea to stay on the right-hand side of the road and come to a complete stop at an empty intersection, like if there's a group of 6 older teens standing there staring at you and your bike. But that's what happens if we go too far in teaching these kids the rules of the road without adding some common sense into the mix. What we need, IMO, is a different type of bike safety/skills approach when teaching kids, particularly refugee and inner-city teens. The last thing any of us wants to do is have a kid spend his/her time earning a bike only to have it get them beat up and have the bike stolen. On the issue of safety training for deer.....I think the jury is still out. -Matt On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Vernon Huffman <vernonhuffman(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > Please consider your goals and objectives carefully as you plan, Matt. We > use bike rodeos to encourage more people to ride, recognizing that more > cyclists on the streets make all of us safer. Thus our primary objective is > to give people confidence in their ability to ride safely. Promoting safe > practices is secondary. We make sure everybody who tries succeeds, > hopefully learning some skills in the process. Our bike rodeos are not > competitions, because we don't want anybody to lose, though we provide a > venue for those who want to display awesome skills. > > A fundamental skill worth focus is the ability to look back over the left > shoulder (right in UK) while maintaining a straight line. We also emphasize > riding slowly, by requiring those who finish the course too quickly to do > it again more slowly. We know it takes less skill to maneuver a bike > quickly. > > Very few materials are essential. Portable road stripes (or paint) and > cones can be handy for setting up the course. A double ended ramp might be > a nice touch. A printed certificate of completion and safety take-home are > valuable. Free lights, reflectors, pant clips, and safety vests are nice > handouts. Posters can communicate the importance of holding your line a > safe distance out from the door zone and other obstacles on the right side > of the road. Help participants to understand that cowering on the shoulder > is not a safe riding style and that more cyclists are hit on sidewalks than > on the street. > > There's a lot of controversy around helmets. Yes, they reduce skull > fractures from first impact if worn correctly, though they do nothing to > prevent concussion and slightly increase neck injury. The risk is that > telling people that bike riding is dangerous reduces the number of people > willing to cycle and thus makes cycling more dangerous. More people suffer > head injuries in automobiles than on bikes. Make them wear the damn > helmets. The main thing that will really improve safety is fewer cars. > > I also refuse to instruct cyclists to honor all laws or "drive their bike > like a car." Traffic rules are designed to protect all users of the road > from the threat of motor vehicles. Cyclists should understand the risks and > ride defensively, without threatening other cyclists or pedestrians. > Stopping at every stop sign merely increases vulnerability. Learn to > maneuver away from threats. Stop when necessary. Be prepared to ditch your > bike to the right if cut off; it could save your life. > > Since cyclists cannot be licensed, motorists should not expect them to > behave predictably. 75-90% of car-bike accidents are caused by the motorist > even if you expect bikes to comply with laws and none of them would happen > if there were no cars. China didn't have a universal traffic code before > 1955 because they didn't need regulations when everybody rode bikes. > Holland has become much safer as they transitioned from cars toward bikes. > Hold out for a car-free future! > > If cyclists learn to comply with their rules, will they then demand safety > training for deer? > > Thank you for working to make cycling safer for all of us. > > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:08 PM, > > ThinkTank: > I am writing a grant to fund the purchase of a kit to set up and conduct > bike rodeos community-wide. Can anyone point me in a good direction so that > I can develop an itemized list of needed supplies and costs? I have a good > idea of what we need but I want to include a very detailed budget with > specific items included. > > I think I remember seeing some info on the Wiki but that's obviously an > issue right now due to the malware situation. Anyone have a good source? > > Thanks, > Matt > > > -- > *Matt VanSlyke* > *Utica Bike Rescue* > *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* > *315.525.9554* > *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* > *www.uticabikerescue.org* > *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* > *Learn. Earn. Ride.* >

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malware on bikecollectives.org?
by Tom Bulten 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

I'm getting a malware warning when I visit bikecollectives.org. Does anyone know the status of the site? http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://www.bikecollectiv… Tom Oakdale Neighbors 1260 Kalamazoo SE Grand Rapids, MI 49507 www.oakdaleneighbors.org 616-248-2848 "Like" Oakdale Neighbors on Facebook. Join our Facebook Group. Connect on Nextdoor.

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