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Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools, spline tree and helm pix
by Bob Giordano 15 Dec '17

15 Dec '17

Attached are pix of the 'Spline Tree' and 'Helm' I spoke of in last email Bob Giordano wrote: All sounds good, the only new thing I'll add is a handy 'tool' we made: welded the FR1 freewheel remover to a small steel plate, then bolted the plate to a wall, right next to our truing stands and cone wrenches. Several times a day it's used: push the wheel onto the tool, spin counterclockwise and off comes the free wheel. our 1st one lasted 2 years til too stripped, then made another. Other than that, all other FW, Cassette and BB removers are on a spinning carousel we call the 'spline tree'. -- Bob Giordano Free Cycles Missoula Shop: 732 S. 1st St. West, ph. 541.7284 10AM-6PM Tues-Sat, www.freecycles.org Missoula Institute for Sustainable Transportation www.strans.org, mist(a)strans.org, 406.830.7676 > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com > <mailto:jbisker@gmail.com>> wrote: > Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the > various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types > they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled > unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! > > tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes it > easy for folks to find the right one. > > EXTRA CREDIT: same question re bottom bracket tools! > > xoxo > > Josh > > > Josh Bisker > 914-500-9890 <tel:(914)%20500-9890> > New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> > 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> > Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools (Nicole Muratore)
by Nicole Muratore 13 Dec '17

13 Dec '17

In a corner of our shop we keep specialty or large tools on both a labeled board and in toolboxes. For patrons new to our shop or unfamiliar with the tools, volunteers usually grab the tools. Otherwise, we keep everything labeled and (hopefully) easy enough for folks to find. Pics attached! Cheers, Nicole Muratore Bike Saviours Collective, Inc. http://www.bikesaviours.org Admin / Volunteer Coordinator (602) 429-9369 On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 2:07 PM, < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools (Josh Bisker) > 2. Re: An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools > (Ainsley Naylor) > 3. Re: An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools > (Gabriel Trainer) > 4. Re: An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools > (Jean-Fran?ois Caron) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 01:31:25 -0500 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools > Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the > various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types > they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled > unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! > > tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes > it easy for folks to find the right one. > > EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!* > > xoxo > > Josh > > > Josh Bisker > 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> > New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> > 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> > Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ainsley Naylor <needleandthread(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:41:47 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette > Tools > Because these are the type of tools which are SMALL, important, easy to > break/strip, and not always cheap (hello, did you order a Maillard french > freewheel tool off of the internet because they are super hard to find???) > we DO keep ours in a closed bin on the table with our vices. > Bottom bracket tools are actually kept in our special tool area at the > front of the shop because if people can grab stuff they are more likely to > break it :( Hell even volunteer who do know how to use these tools properly > still abuse and break them. > > I guess generally we expect that volunteer will determine what tool is > required for a repair and retrieve and explain it, rather than people > figuring it out/finding it for themselves.... > > NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANTED SORRY JOSH!!!! > > Ainsley. > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the >> various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types >> they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled >> unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! >> >> tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes >> it easy for folks to find the right one. >> >> EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!* >> >> xoxo >> >> Josh >> >> >> Josh Bisker >> 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:59:24 -0800 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette > Tools > At Bike Farm we have all of the freewheel and cassette tools laid out on a > magnetic strip so you can see the different shapes easily. Still a guess > and check method, but better than a bin of tools thrown together. > Gabriel > > On Dec 13, 2017 7:41 AM, "Ainsley Naylor" <needleandthread(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Because these are the type of tools which are SMALL, important, easy to >> break/strip, and not always cheap (hello, did you order a Maillard french >> freewheel tool off of the internet because they are super hard to find???) >> we DO keep ours in a closed bin on the table with our vices. >> Bottom bracket tools are actually kept in our special tool area at the >> front of the shop because if people can grab stuff they are more likely to >> break it :( Hell even volunteer who do know how to use these tools properly >> still abuse and break them. >> >> I guess generally we expect that volunteer will determine what tool is >> required for a repair and retrieve and explain it, rather than people >> figuring it out/finding it for themselves.... >> >> NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANTED SORRY JOSH!!!! >> >> Ainsley. >> >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the >>> various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types >>> they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled >>> unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! >>> >>> tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that >>> makes it easy for folks to find the right one. >>> >>> EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!* >>> >>> xoxo >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> Josh Bisker >>> 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> >>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >>> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >>> >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >>> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Jean-François Caron" <jfcaron3(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 14:54:38 -0600 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette > Tools > At the Bike Kitchen in Vancouver (from what I recall, having left over a > year ago), we only had the common Shimano-style freewheel and cassette > tools. The freewheel tool has a hole in it, so we just put it on a nail in > the wall, the cassette tool has a steel rod, so we stuck it in a hole in > the wall next to the aforementioned nail. > > Anything other than the standard Shimano-style tools, you had to ask a > mechanic to get it behind the counter. This is both because it's less > confusing for newbies who 99% have the Shimano style, but also because a > lot of the other styles are much easier to strip, e.g. the two-knotch > Suntour. > > Y'all know the trick about keeping the freewheel tool engaged with a nut > right? > > Jean-François > > On Dec 13, 2017, at 13:59 , Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> > wrote: > > At Bike Farm we have all of the freewheel and cassette tools laid out on a > magnetic strip so you can see the different shapes easily. Still a guess > and check method, but better than a bin of tools thrown together. > Gabriel > > On Dec 13, 2017 7:41 AM, "Ainsley Naylor" <needleandthread(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Because these are the type of tools which are SMALL, important, easy to >> break/strip, and not always cheap (hello, did you order a Maillard french >> freewheel tool off of the internet because they are super hard to find???) >> we DO keep ours in a closed bin on the table with our vices. >> Bottom bracket tools are actually kept in our special tool area at the >> front of the shop because if people can grab stuff they are more likely to >> break it :( Hell even volunteer who do know how to use these tools properly >> still abuse and break them. >> >> I guess generally we expect that volunteer will determine what tool is >> required for a repair and retrieve and explain it, rather than people >> figuring it out/finding it for themselves.... >> >> NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANTED SORRY JOSH!!!! >> >> Ainsley. >> >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the >>> various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types >>> they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled >>> unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! >>> >>> tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that >>> makes it easy for folks to find the right one. >>> >>> EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!* >>> >>> xoxo >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> Josh Bisker >>> 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> >>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >>> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >>> >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >>> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. > org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > >

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An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools
by Josh Bisker 13 Dec '17

13 Dec '17

Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes it easy for folks to find the right one. EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!* xoxo Josh Josh Bisker 914-500-9890 New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 135, Issue 6
by Tegan Moss [B!KE] 13 Dec '17

13 Dec '17

On Dec 13, 2017 4:08 PM, <thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools (Josh Bisker) > 2. Re: An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools > (Ainsley Naylor) > 3. Re: An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools > (Gabriel Trainer) > 4. Re: An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools > (Jean-Fran?ois Caron) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 01:31:25 -0500 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools > Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the > various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types > they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled > unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! > > tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes > it easy for folks to find the right one. > > EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!* > > xoxo > > Josh > > > Josh Bisker > 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> > New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> > 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> > Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ainsley Naylor <needleandthread(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:41:47 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette > Tools > Because these are the type of tools which are SMALL, important, easy to > break/strip, and not always cheap (hello, did you order a Maillard french > freewheel tool off of the internet because they are super hard to find???) > we DO keep ours in a closed bin on the table with our vices. > Bottom bracket tools are actually kept in our special tool area at the > front of the shop because if people can grab stuff they are more likely to > break it :( Hell even volunteer who do know how to use these tools properly > still abuse and break them. > > I guess generally we expect that volunteer will determine what tool is > required for a repair and retrieve and explain it, rather than people > figuring it out/finding it for themselves.... > > NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANTED SORRY JOSH!!!! > > Ainsley. > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the >> various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types >> they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled >> unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! >> >> tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes >> it easy for folks to find the right one. >> >> EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!* >> >> xoxo >> >> Josh >> >> >> Josh Bisker >> 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:59:24 -0800 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette > Tools > At Bike Farm we have all of the freewheel and cassette tools laid out on a > magnetic strip so you can see the different shapes easily. Still a guess > and check method, but better than a bin of tools thrown together. > Gabriel > > On Dec 13, 2017 7:41 AM, "Ainsley Naylor" <needleandthread(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Because these are the type of tools which are SMALL, important, easy to >> break/strip, and not always cheap (hello, did you order a Maillard french >> freewheel tool off of the internet because they are super hard to find???) >> we DO keep ours in a closed bin on the table with our vices. >> Bottom bracket tools are actually kept in our special tool area at the >> front of the shop because if people can grab stuff they are more likely to >> break it :( Hell even volunteer who do know how to use these tools properly >> still abuse and break them. >> >> I guess generally we expect that volunteer will determine what tool is >> required for a repair and retrieve and explain it, rather than people >> figuring it out/finding it for themselves.... >> >> NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANTED SORRY JOSH!!!! >> >> Ainsley. >> >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the >>> various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types >>> they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled >>> unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! >>> >>> tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that >>> makes it easy for folks to find the right one. >>> >>> EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!* >>> >>> xoxo >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> Josh Bisker >>> 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> >>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >>> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >>> >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >>> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Jean-François Caron" <jfcaron3(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 14:54:38 -0600 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette > Tools > At the Bike Kitchen in Vancouver (from what I recall, having left over a > year ago), we only had the common Shimano-style freewheel and cassette > tools. The freewheel tool has a hole in it, so we just put it on a nail in > the wall, the cassette tool has a steel rod, so we stuck it in a hole in > the wall next to the aforementioned nail. > > Anything other than the standard Shimano-style tools, you had to ask a > mechanic to get it behind the counter. This is both because it's less > confusing for newbies who 99% have the Shimano style, but also because a > lot of the other styles are much easier to strip, e.g. the two-knotch > Suntour. > > Y'all know the trick about keeping the freewheel tool engaged with a nut > right? > > Jean-François > > On Dec 13, 2017, at 13:59 , Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> > wrote: > > At Bike Farm we have all of the freewheel and cassette tools laid out on a > magnetic strip so you can see the different shapes easily. Still a guess > and check method, but better than a bin of tools thrown together. > Gabriel > > On Dec 13, 2017 7:41 AM, "Ainsley Naylor" <needleandthread(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Because these are the type of tools which are SMALL, important, easy to >> break/strip, and not always cheap (hello, did you order a Maillard french >> freewheel tool off of the internet because they are super hard to find???) >> we DO keep ours in a closed bin on the table with our vices. >> Bottom bracket tools are actually kept in our special tool area at the >> front of the shop because if people can grab stuff they are more likely to >> break it :( Hell even volunteer who do know how to use these tools properly >> still abuse and break them. >> >> I guess generally we expect that volunteer will determine what tool is >> required for a repair and retrieve and explain it, rather than people >> figuring it out/finding it for themselves.... >> >> NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANTED SORRY JOSH!!!! >> >> Ainsley. >> >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the >>> various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types >>> they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled >>> unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got! >>> >>> tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that >>> makes it easy for folks to find the right one. >>> >>> EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!* >>> >>> xoxo >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> Josh Bisker >>> 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> >>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >>> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >>> >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >>> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. > org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > >

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Looking for HR and Compensation policies
by CZ Mike 12 Dec '17

12 Dec '17

Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, DE is growing and we need to get better policies in place for addressing HR and Compensation issues. As a member of the Board of Directors and an active volunteer I'm charged with developing some policies, procedures and guidelines for managing employees, including roles and responsibilities of Board members and the Executive Director. If anyone has documentation that you are willing to share to give me a leg-up, that would be great, TIA, Mike

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could look Like
by rob＠robertgrossmandesign.com 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 135, Issue 3
by Shawn Höffarth 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

please take me off this list. thanks Shawn Hoffarth TheCrew - Skateboarding Advocate On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:06 PM, < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Visual of What An Exchange Program Could look Like > (francisco diamond) > 2. Re: Visual of What An Exchange Program Could look Like > (rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com) > 3. Re: Visual of What An Exchange Program Could look Like > (francisco diamond) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: francisco diamond <frdiamond(a)msn.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 21:31:07 +0000 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could look > Like > Hi, Robert > I am on the planning committee for bike! bike! Can you repost your > blueprint maybe I can use portions of it when we set up. > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------ > *From:* Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> on > behalf of rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com <rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:21:27 PM > *To:* The Think Tank > *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could > look Like > > Hi Lauren and TT, > > Great thoughts and questions! I added them to the Master Blueprint, which > can be viewed here... > https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_k0OiQZc=/ > > If Ainsley would like to send her notes as bullet points, they can be > added to the Blueprint as well. > > As for intake procedures, that's a great idea. It would be awesome if > someone would act out how that would go down and record it so it can > added into this to be referenced later. > > There are already sample application forms for both shops and > exchangees put together. I'll get them posted soon for everyone to comment > on. > > Lauren, what sort of troubleshooting of international exchange issues are > you referring to? > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could > look Like > From: Lauren Warbeck <lauren.warbeck(a)gmail.com> > Date: Mon, November 20, 2017 1:50 pm > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > > Hey buds! > > As often, this is a project that we started exploring a few years ago that > fell to the wayside, and that folks before us started working on too. I'm > so excited to see it revived! Ainsley, I think you recently unearthed our > notes? > > I think this is a great overall framework. I'm sure you've thought about > these things, but just to put them out there on the TT... > > In my experience, each shop will have their own culture and procedures > around taking on volunteers, and resources to do so will be highly > variable. For that reason, I think this general rubric is great. Once you > really get into the details, could part of the application require each > shop to outline what their intake procedure is? Could an overall framework > be developed that shops can draw on for their interviews/questions to > consider...like suggested application details. Are there thoughts yet on > what a suggested application could look like in terms of content? > > For international exchanges, the most significant roadblock, I think, is > coordinating visas, permits, and taxation for those shops that operate more > formally in the registered non-profit paradigm. Most shops, I suspect, > can't afford the risk inherent to having noncitizen workers or afford the > potential heat from the law on having noncitizens working in their shops. > Could a guideline to the opportunities and risks inherent to volunteering > or working in another country be provided to the person seeking exchange? > And for those orgs that aren't incorporated in the formal nonprofit > paradigm, could there be a way to ensure discretion while trying to > organize an international exchange online? Or a list of guidelines about > how to stay off the radar so that no one gets deported? Or is this being > conceived of us as an exchange that takes place within the borders of a > given country? > > One thing I've thought about was that if the exchange was considered > training or professional development, home shops could pay their OWN > employees to go on an exchange. As in, pay them for the hours they work at > another shop. The receiving shop, if they have the funds, could even give > a grant or donation or funding to the other shop to fund the > exchange...like a grant for professional development. The legal terrain > here will be highly contextual, though. > > It would also be good to detail some expectations of the receiving shop in > terms of what support/welcome/orientation to the shop and community can and > would be offered, and to have a point person or two in the shop who will be > the sort of ambassador of the org/community/town/city. Again, general > guidelines specific shops could draw on in developing their support offer > would be helpful. > > In general, in my experience, exchanges and volunteers from other shops > have worked out well, and part of that is because there is often a > preexisting relationship between the incoming person and someone at the > recieving shop. The great thing about an exchange is that it could not > require that preexisting relationship...but it also means there is a risk > of taking on people who aren't a good fit for a shop, or the exchange > finding out the shop isn't right for them once they arrive. Will there be > a suggested procedure in place for vetting folks and for ending an exchange > preemptively? Like a suggested procedure for dealing with conflict, or a > budget for escape haha. A simple way might be to have a question on the > application that asks for references (preferably at other shops), and a > question around whether they've been on exchange and where, with a point > person potential exchange recipients can contact at that shop as a > reference. Is that too policey? Or is it just due diligence? > > Hmmmm I love this project. I'm personally really interested in > troubleshooting the international exchange issues. > > > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:08 PM, <rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com> wrote: > >> Dear Thinktank, >> >> Here is a visual idea of how we can develop a (mostly) self-sustaining >> exchange program between Community Bicycle Workshops. >> >> http://atmoslabs.com/community-bicycle-workshop-exchange-storyboard/ >> >> Please tear into it. >> >> Cheers >> >> Rob >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > ------------------------------ > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. > org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: <rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 10:09:52 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could look > Like > Francisco, > > Try this link. It's for the Exchange's workspace. Let me know if there > is a problem. > https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_k0OiQZc=/ > > You may want to consider using the blueprint's structure on a spreadsheet > in Excel or Google Sheets. If you have any questions shoot me an email and > I'll do my best to help. > > All the best, > > Rob > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could > look Like > From: francisco diamond <frdiamond(a)msn.com> > Date: Mon, December 04, 2017 2:31 pm > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > > Hi, Robert > I am on the planning committee for bike! bike! Can you repost your > blueprint maybe I can use portions of it when we set up. > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------ > *From:* Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> on > behalf of rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com <rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:21:27 PM > *To:* The Think Tank > *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could > look Like > > Hi Lauren and TT, > > Great thoughts and questions! I added them to the Master Blueprint, which > can be viewed here... > https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_k0OiQZc=/ > > If Ainsley would like to send her notes as bullet points, they can be > added to the Blueprint as well. > > As for intake procedures, that's a great idea. It would be awesome if > someone would act out how that would go down and record it so it can > added into this to be referenced later. > > There are already sample application forms for both shops and > exchangees put together. I'll get them posted soon for everyone to comment > on. > > Lauren, what sort of troubleshooting of international exchange issues are > you referring to? > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could > look Like > From: Lauren Warbeck <lauren.warbeck(a)gmail.com> > Date: Mon, November 20, 2017 1:50 pm > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > > Hey buds! > > As often, this is a project that we started exploring a few years ago that > fell to the wayside, and that folks before us started working on too. I'm > so excited to see it revived! Ainsley, I think you recently unearthed our > notes? > > I think this is a great overall framework. I'm sure you've thought about > these things, but just to put them out there on the TT... > > In my experience, each shop will have their own culture and procedures > around taking on volunteers, and resources to do so will be highly > variable. For that reason, I think this general rubric is great. Once you > really get into the details, could part of the application require each > shop to outline what their intake procedure is? Could an overall framework > be developed that shops can draw on for their interviews/questions to > consider...like suggested application details. Are there thoughts yet on > what a suggested application could look like in terms of content? > > For international exchanges, the most significant roadblock, I think, is > coordinating visas, permits, and taxation for those shops that operate more > formally in the registered non-profit paradigm. Most shops, I suspect, > can't afford the risk inherent to having noncitizen workers or afford the > potential heat from the law on having noncitizens working in their shops. > Could a guideline to the opportunities and risks inherent to volunteering > or working in another country be provided to the person seeking exchange? > And for those orgs that aren't incorporated in the formal nonprofit > paradigm, could there be a way to ensure discretion while trying to > organize an international exchange online? Or a list of guidelines about > how to stay off the radar so that no one gets deported? Or is this being > conceived of us as an exchange that takes place within the borders of a > given country? > > One thing I've thought about was that if the exchange was considered > training or professional development, home shops could pay their OWN > employees to go on an exchange. As in, pay them for the hours they work at > another shop. The receiving shop, if they have the funds, could even give > a grant or donation or funding to the other shop to fund the > exchange...like a grant for professional development. The legal terrain > here will be highly contextual, though. > > It would also be good to detail some expectations of the receiving shop in > terms of what support/welcome/orientation to the shop and community can and > would be offered, and to have a point person or two in the shop who will be > the sort of ambassador of the org/community/town/city. Again, general > guidelines specific shops could draw on in developing their support offer > would be helpful. > > In general, in my experience, exchanges and volunteers from other shops > have worked out well, and part of that is because there is often a > preexisting relationship between the incoming person and someone at the > recieving shop. The great thing about an exchange is that it could not > require that preexisting relationship...but it also means there is a risk > of taking on people who aren't a good fit for a shop, or the exchange > finding out the shop isn't right for them once they arrive. Will there be > a suggested procedure in place for vetting folks and for ending an exchange > preemptively? Like a suggested procedure for dealing with conflict, or a > budget for escape haha. A simple way might be to have a question on the > application that asks for references (preferably at other shops), and a > question around whether they've been on exchange and where, with a point > person potential exchange recipients can contact at that shop as a > reference. Is that too policey? Or is it just due diligence? > > Hmmmm I love this project. I'm personally really interested in > troubleshooting the international exchange issues. > > > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:08 PM, <rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com> wrote: > >> Dear Thinktank, >> >> Here is a visual idea of how we can develop a (mostly) self-sustaining >> exchange program between Community Bicycle Workshops. >> >> http://atmoslabs.com/community-bicycle-workshop-exchange-storyboard/ >> >> Please tear into it. >> >> Cheers >> >> Rob >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > ------------------------------ > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. > org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > ------------------------------ > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. > org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: francisco diamond <frdiamond(a)msn.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:37:36 +0000 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could look > Like > Ok lol, I ITed my way in the last part of url wasn’t there. What is a > corner marshal? > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------ > *From:* Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> on > behalf of rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com <rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:09:52 AM > *To:* The Think Tank > *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could > look Like > > Francisco, > > Try this link. It's for the Exchange's workspace. Let me know if there > is a problem. > https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_k0OiQZc=/ > > You may want to consider using the blueprint's structure on a spreadsheet > in Excel or Google Sheets. If you have any questions shoot me an email and > I'll do my best to help. > > All the best, > > Rob > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could > look Like > From: francisco diamond <frdiamond(a)msn.com> > Date: Mon, December 04, 2017 2:31 pm > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > > Hi, Robert > I am on the planning committee for bike! bike! Can you repost your > blueprint maybe I can use portions of it when we set up. > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------ > *From:* Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> on > behalf of rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com <rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:21:27 PM > *To:* The Think Tank > *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could > look Like > > Hi Lauren and TT, > > Great thoughts and questions! I added them to the Master Blueprint, which > can be viewed here... > https://realtimeboard.com/app/board/o9J_k0OiQZc=/ > > If Ainsley would like to send her notes as bullet points, they can be > added to the Blueprint as well. > > As for intake procedures, that's a great idea. It would be awesome if > someone would act out how that would go down and record it so it can > added into this to be referenced later. > > There are already sample application forms for both shops and > exchangees put together. I'll get them posted soon for everyone to comment > on. > > Lauren, what sort of troubleshooting of international exchange issues are > you referring to? > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Visual of What An Exchange Program Could > look Like > From: Lauren Warbeck <lauren.warbeck(a)gmail.com> > Date: Mon, November 20, 2017 1:50 pm > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > > Hey buds! > > As often, this is a project that we started exploring a few years ago that > fell to the wayside, and that folks before us started working on too. I'm > so excited to see it revived! Ainsley, I think you recently unearthed our > notes? > > I think this is a great overall framework. I'm sure you've thought about > these things, but just to put them out there on the TT... > > In my experience, each shop will have their own culture and procedures > around taking on volunteers, and resources to do so will be highly > variable. For that reason, I think this general rubric is great. Once you > really get into the details, could part of the application require each > shop to outline what their intake procedure is? Could an overall framework > be developed that shops can draw on for their interviews/questions to > consider...like suggested application details. Are there thoughts yet on > what a suggested application could look like in terms of content? > > For international exchanges, the most significant roadblock, I think, is > coordinating visas, permits, and taxation for those shops that operate more > formally in the registered non-profit paradigm. Most shops, I suspect, > can't afford the risk inherent to having noncitizen workers or afford the > potential heat from the law on having noncitizens working in their shops. > Could a guideline to the opportunities and risks inherent to volunteering > or working in another country be provided to the person seeking exchange? > And for those orgs that aren't incorporated in the formal nonprofit > paradigm, could there be a way to ensure discretion while trying to > organize an international exchange online? Or a list of guidelines about > how to stay off the radar so that no one gets deported? Or is this being > conceived of us as an exchange that takes place within the borders of a > given country? > > One thing I've thought about was that if the exchange was considered > training or professional development, home shops could pay their OWN > employees to go on an exchange. As in, pay them for the hours they work at > another shop. The receiving shop, if they have the funds, could even give > a grant or donation or funding to the other shop to fund the > exchange...like a grant for professional development. The legal terrain > here will be highly contextual, though. > > It would also be good to detail some expectations of the receiving shop in > terms of what support/welcome/orientation to the shop and community can and > would be offered, and to have a point person or two in the shop who will be > the sort of ambassador of the org/community/town/city. Again, general > guidelines specific shops could draw on in developing their support offer > would be helpful. > > In general, in my experience, exchanges and volunteers from other shops > have worked out well, and part of that is because there is often a > preexisting relationship between the incoming person and someone at the > recieving shop. The great thing about an exchange is that it could not > require that preexisting relationship...but it also means there is a risk > of taking on people who aren't a good fit for a shop, or the exchange > finding out the shop isn't right for them once they arrive. Will there be > a suggested procedure in place for vetting folks and for ending an exchange > preemptively? Like a suggested procedure for dealing with conflict, or a > budget for escape haha. A simple way might be to have a question on the > application that asks for references (preferably at other shops), and a > question around whether they've been on exchange and where, with a point > person potential exchange recipients can contact at that shop as a > reference. Is that too policey? Or is it just due diligence? > > Hmmmm I love this project. I'm personally really interested in > troubleshooting the international exchange issues. > > > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:08 PM, <rob(a)robertgrossmandesign.com> wrote: > >> Dear Thinktank, >> >> Here is a visual idea of how we can develop a (mostly) self-sustaining >> exchange program between Community Bicycle Workshops. >> >> http://atmoslabs.com/community-bicycle-workshop-exchange-storyboard/ >> >> Please tear into it. >> >> Cheers >> >> Rob >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > ------------------------------ > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. > org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > ------------------------------ > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. > org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > >

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Health Hazard from Drum Brakes
by Jean-François Caron 01 Dec '17

01 Dec '17

Hi everyone, I recently came across a vendor selling a drum brake[1] where they claimed it had "No asbes" i.e. no asbestos. This led me to search about asbestos in bicycle brakes, and indeed it's a thing: http://santanatandem.com/Library/AraiDBrakeIns.pdf <http://santanatandem.com/Library/AraiDBrakeIns.pdf> (go to page 2, paragraph 4 in "Service") The quantity is small and it's not friable, it's solid chunks (like old chemistry lab benches) which pose no actual hazard. Unless you are frequently overhauling these drum brakes with abrasives & sucking in the dust, the risk should be negligible, but it's good to know about. If any shops out there have a bin for drum brakes, I'd suggest putting a warning label on it, or attaching a tag to the individual brakes if they are in a mixed bin. Jean-François [1] http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/mlb-50/

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bikes on display
by Edward Stewart 28 Nov '17

28 Nov '17

We at the Elyria (Ohio) Bicycle Education Center are pretty new to much of how to run a coop and shop. We appreciate the collective intelligence being shared here. We are looking for a good and inexpensive way to display bikes in our front 'sales room' without relying on kickstands to hold up the bikes (some have'em, some don't). Willing to build wood racks or whatever but have not seen anything reasonable yet. Any suggestions? -- Ed Stewart emsco514(a)gmail.com 440-365-6784 *I have an escape mechanism for stress: my bike.* <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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