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by bike talk 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Ines Brunn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co9Is-NbqlU Bob Giordano of Free Cycles Missoula Somerset Waters of Bicycle Kitchen Steve Owens, trainer Reportback from Amgen tour by Larry Hoffman The theme this week: cargo bikes Call in @ (213) 252-0998 -- please let me know if you want to be taken off this list. Hear Bike Talk! on kpfk: http://www.kpfk.org/programs/170-bike-talk.html or see what's new with us at biketalk.us

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Re: [TheThinkTank] [SLC Bike Collective] babies and bikes
by Bruce Lien 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

We were informed by our kids' pediatrician that infants under 1 year of age should NOT ride in trailers behind bikes due to the potential brain injury from the jostling. I noticed that the adaptive soft, snuggling seats all spoke about use in their "strollers" to jog with. Bottom line, don't trailer a kid under 12 months. --- On Thu, 2/26/09, krisha <krisha.marie(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: krisha <krisha.marie(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] [SLC Bike Collective] babies and bikes To: mtbiker62(a)comcast.net Cc: "SLC Bicycle Collective" <community(a)slcbikecollective.org>, "Shea Pickelner" <shea(a)cityacademyslc.org>, "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:49 PM Ryan - I don't think you're off on this subject at all! An infant too young could easily be injured (even if not visibly) while in a trailer. I do however think it can depend if you have a cheap trailer vs. a model with shock absorption features etc. Also if you are on a newly paved road vs. an older bumpy road. Continual shaking of a newborn on a bike ride is not something I'd recommend though. Bob - Child carriers are an absolute MUST for mom and dad to have! They have those you've linked and also slings/mei tai are options as well. They're great for any time you need free hands, happy babies, and hiking of course. As far as putting it into a bike trailer for security.. I can't recommend that as they can be unsturdy, bulky, and may not fit in properly. I've seen dozens of parents come to the downtown farmers market with infants in trailers under 12 months! I haven't done it myself, but have been commuting with my toddler for a almost a full year now. I'd stick with a Chariot for an infant and then Burley as a runner up for trailer choices. Chariot makes a baby supporter for infants 3 -18 months. http://www.chariotcarriers.com/english/html/accessories.php?accID=3 Burley makes a baby snuggler for infants 3-12 months. http://www.burley.com/products/accessories/index.cfm I'd chose a Britax car seat if I were to use one in a trailer. http://www.britaxusa.com/safety/what-safe-reason.aspx http://www.britaxusa.com/products/product_detail.aspx?ID=2 Any of the infants I've come across in trailers are in car seats. I do recommend waiting until your infant can sit up though which would occur sometime between 4-7 months. There is always public transportation and taking turns with dad staying home when going out. Trust me it goes by quick and there is always a way! Congratulations Shea! Krisha -- Krisha Pessa Youth Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-931-0895 f: 801-466-3856 krisha(a)slcbikecollective.org www.slcbikecollective.org -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Keep a look out for these high profile bikes...
by Bruce Lien 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

David is such a great guy. I hope they catch whoever stole his things and justice is served. And hopefully David will be able to focus on the next mountains he has to conquer. --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Jonathan Morrison <jonathan(a)slcbikecollective.org> wrote: From: Jonathan Morrison <jonathan(a)slcbikecollective.org> Subject: [TheThinkTank] Keep a look out for these high profile bikes... To: "SLC Bicycle Collective" <community(a)slcbikecollective.org>, mbac(a)cyclingutah.com, "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Cc: "Yield to Life Y2L" <yield2life(a)gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 3:35 PM http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5683324 Dave Zabriskie: http://yieldtolife.org/ http://www.davezabriskie.com/ Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/ The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic
by james blesdoe 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

How many bikes can you make from a hummer I hope this Comm major is enlightened in this interaction. but on the other hand does it mater how we get them out of the car and on to the bike a good deal of the lemmings in cars didn't make the choice to drive from their point of view they had no options cars were just what people do to survive. The times are only going to make it harder for us and better in the long run for our movement. In Los Angeles " fixed gear hipsters" are every where or so i am told when i see someone on a bike, fixed or not, i see one less car. If it becomes chic to use bicycles we win! If style mavens every where identify with bicycles we win! still I would be inclined not to be interviewed by this guy we have a long way to go. Jim --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 7:16 AM if someone uses a term like "fixed gear hipster" they have answered like 3/4 of those questions they wanted to ask us On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Boson Au <boson.au(a)gmail.com> wrote: hahah wow "Hi we'd like to undermine any genuine altruistic motivations your organization has by having your representation in our snarky tongue in cheek final project." On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Erik Stockmeier <estockme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From a local clown ... > > > Subject: Interview > To: info(a)therecyclery.org > > > My name is David, and I am a Sophomore here at Northwestern. I am taking a > class called Persuasive Images in the School of Comm, and have chosen to do > a my final project on the idea of "Recession Chic". My group and I are > interested in why those who can spend whatever they want, choose to emulate > a more modest lifestyle. Regardless of the actual savings, the appearance of > budgeting and thrift is now stylish. One aspect of the recession chic > lifestyle that we are looking into is bicycle riding. I was curious if you > could tell us a little about the motivations for bicycle riding, health, > style (as in fixed gear hipsters), going green, etc. Also I am curious as to > how your collective has been doing with the recession. > > I would love to talk with you, and ideally, I would love to be able to > videotape the interview if you feel comfortable with that. If this is > something that you would be up for, let me know when you are available this > coming week! > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration. > > Hope to have the opportunity to meet you soon, > David > > > > -- > The Recyclery > 847.424.1419 > 735 Reba Place, Basement > Evanston, IL 60202 > www.therecyclery.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- froilan eliseo landeros -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic
by james blesdoe 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Good point Wilbur, --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Wilbur Ince <wilbur(a)wilbur.us> wrote: From: Wilbur Ince <wilbur(a)wilbur.us> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 9:33 AM You have an opportunity to engage with a real human being. He is looking to understand the world he lives in. This is where bicycle evangelism starts, and where communal understanding grows. You have something to learn from this person, go find out what it is. Is he wrong for being the product of his society? Are you better/smarter/wiser because you have had a different experience on this planet? Wilbur james blesdoe wrote: How many bikes can you make from a hummer I hope this Comm major is enlightened in this interaction. but on the other hand does it mater how we get them out of the car and on to the bike a good deal of the lemmings in cars didn't make the choice to drive from their point of view they had no options cars were just what people do to survive. The times are only going to make it harder for us and better in the long run for our movement. In Los Angeles " fixed gear hipsters" are every where or so i am told when i see someone on a bike, fixed or not, i see one less car. If it becomes chic to use bicycles we win! If style mavens every where identify with bicycles we win! still I would be inclined not to be interviewed by this guy we have a long way to go. Jim --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 7:16 AM if someone uses a term like "fixed gear hipster" they have answered like 3/4 of those questions they wanted to ask us On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Boson Au <boson.au(a)gmail.com> wrote: hahah wow "Hi we'd like to undermine any genuine altruistic motivations your organization has by having your representation in our snarky tongue in cheek final project." On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Erik Stockmeier <estockme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From a local clown ... > > > Subject: Interview > To: info(a)therecyclery.org > > > My name is David, and I am a Sophomore here at Northwestern. I am taking a > class called Persuasive Images in the School of Comm, and have chosen to do > a my final project on the idea of "Recession Chic". My group and I are > interested in why those who can spend whatever they want, choose to emulate > a more modest lifestyle. Regardless of the actual savings, the appearance of > budgeting and thrift is now stylish. One aspect of the recession chic > lifestyle that we are looking into is bicycle riding. I was curious if you > could tell us a little about the motivations for bicycle riding, health, > style (as in fixed gear hipsters), going green, etc. Also I am curious as to > how your collective has been doing with the recession. > > I would love to talk with you, and ideally, I would love to be able to > videotape the interview if you feel comfortable with that. If this is > something that you would be up for, let me know when you are available this > coming week! > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration. > > Hope to have the opportunity to meet you soon, > David > > > > -- > The Recyclery > 847.424.1419 > 735 Reba Place, Basement > Evanston, IL 60202 > www.therecyclery.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- froilan eliseo landeros -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Summer Northeast Bike Collective Documentary (i need volunteers for places I can stay and shoot)
by Cris Shirley 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hey! My name's Cris Shirley, I'm a student at Yale in Environmental Studies, and I'm making documentary on bike collectives in the northeast for my senior thesis (Environmental Studies degree). I'm planning to start shooting at the beginning of the summer, riding my bike to the collectives, and staying for around a week. I'm trying to get my contacts and schedule laid out now so I can pack in a much over the summer as possible. I wanted to give collectives a heads up, and if your interested in getting filmed, or your collective included, or if you could host me for a bit of time in town, etc. Any references to people or places that might be good to film would be great too. Also, I'm looking for some *stock footage* or stuff that's been shot on bike collectives that I might be able to include in my documentary, so I'd like to talk to anyone that has done any camera or audio work that might be interested in sharing. On that note, any *music* that has been made that works with theme of collectives, bikes, etc would be awesome to try to include in the project. Also, if you have any art or are an artist that would like to be included in the project. Thanks! Cris

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Recession Chic
by Erik Stockmeier 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

>From a local clown ... Subject: Interview To: info(a)therecyclery.org My name is David, and I am a Sophomore here at Northwestern. I am taking a class called Persuasive Images in the School of Comm, and have chosen to do a my final project on the idea of "Recession Chic". My group and I are interested in why those who can spend whatever they want, choose to emulate a more modest lifestyle. Regardless of the actual savings, the appearance of budgeting and thrift is now stylish. One aspect of the recession chic lifestyle that we are looking into is bicycle riding. I was curious if you could tell us a little about the motivations for bicycle riding, health, style (as in fixed gear hipsters), going green, etc. Also I am curious as to how your collective has been doing with the recession. I would love to talk with you, and ideally, I would love to be able to videotape the interview if you feel comfortable with that. If this is something that you would be up for, let me know when you are available this coming week! Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Hope to have the opportunity to meet you soon, David -- The Recyclery 847.424.1419 735 Reba Place, Basement Evanston, IL 60202 www.therecyclery.org

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Proper way to dispose of dirty rags?
by Boson Au 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

What is everyone's method of disposing rags that are just too infused with grease and other dangerous substances? We've been just more or less storing ours in fireproof containers but we really need a proper, environmentally safe, and hopefully not too costly method of disposal.

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Deciding which kid gets to ride first in line
by Rich Points 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

Hey All, We do various youth activities through the shop and one thing always comes up when we ride with 10-15 year old kids; they all want to ride in the front of the single file "peloton". In this context it actually means second because they follow the class instructor. Does anyone have ideas about a fair way of who gets the number one spot? Thanks -- Rich Points Community Cycles Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 Donate your old car to Community Cycles

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Fwd: FW: Amgen Tour of California Stage 7 Results
by bike talk 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Abbott, Megan (LAN-GHI) <mabbott(a)golinharris.com> Date: Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM Subject: FW: Amgen Tour of California Stage 7 Results To: livebiketalk(a)gmail.com Here you go! ------------------------------ *From:* Abbott, Megan (LAN-GHI) *Sent:* Sat 2/21/2009 8:28 PM *Subject:* Amgen Tour of California Stage 7 Results Hi All, Attached are the results from Stage 7 of the Amgen Tour of California as well as the general classification. *Stage 7 top-five finishers*: 1) Rinaldo Nocentini (ITA), AG2R La Mondiale 2) Hayden Roulston (NZL), Cervelo Test Team 3) Pieter Weening (NED), Rabobank 4) Markus Zberg (SUI), BMC Racing Team 5) Martin Elmiger (SUI), AG2R La Mondiale *General Classification top-five standings as of Stage 7:* 1) Levi Leipheimer (USA), Astana 2) David Zabriskie (USA), Garmin-Slipstream 3) Michael Rogers (AUS), Team Columbia-High Road 4) Jens Voigt (GER), Team Saxo Bank 5) Thomas Lövkvist (SWE), Team Columbia-High Road *Stage 7 jersey winners include:* Amgen Race Leader Jersey- Levi Leipheimer (USA), Astana Amgen's *Breakaway from Cancer* Most Courageous Rider Jersey- Christian VendeVelde (USA), Garmin-Slipstream Herbalife Sprint Jersey- Mark Cavendish (GBR), Team Columbia-High Road Rabobank Best Young Rider Jersey- Robert Gesink (NED), Rabobank California Travel & Tourism Commission King of the Mountain (KOM) Jersey- Jason McCartney (USA), Team Saxo Bank Best, Megan * * ** -- please let me know if you want to be taken off this list. Hear Bike Talk! on kpfk: http://www.kpfk.org/programs/170-bike-talk.html or see what's new with us at biketalk.us

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