TheThinkTank June 2008

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Respect with a focus on Ethics.
by BovineOaks＠aol.com 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

In a message dated 6/25/2008 12:44:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, colin.phoenixbikes(a)gmail.com writes: 1. respect other people. students, staff, visitors. 2. respect tools. Respect without ethics is destructive. The Mafia had great respect inside its ranks, but it lacked ethical bearings for the greater community, Gangsta's demand respect from everyone yet they do not give respect back to the community. Some communities will not talk to the police because there is a code of silence they respect. The code of silence protects the guilty and lacks ethical concerns for the rest of the community. Respect with out ETHICS is deadly. A student can respect other people. students, staff, visitors. When one steals from the shop, respect thief and do not tell on them. Respect without ethics is destructive to the community, the program and to all related people. A student can respect tools. If you need them, take them home, care for them and use them appropriately. It is theft but it is also respect. Respect without ethics is Loss I propose that focus on Ethical treatment of people, community, property, and so on; is important to changing the environment of RESPECT for bad behavior. The Dalai Lama puts the idea of ethics in a broader message. It is in everybody's interest to seek those [actions] that lead to happiness and avoid those which lead to suffering. And because our interests are inextricably linked, we are compelled to accept ethics as the indispensable interface between my desire to be happy and yours. -His Holiness the Dalai Lama Respect without a focus on Ethics, is just dust in the wind. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Volunteers vs. Paid Staff
by Justin Morse 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

The paid vs. volunteer issue has become a little divisive here in Columbus, and I'm glad to see a thinktank thread concerning it. Reading the posts, and the description of the various workshops, has got me seeing, all over again, how may different people are trying to accomplish such similar things. We're all-volunteer here at Third Hand Bike Co-op, and as a core volunteer, I'm sort of trying to put some kind of paid clerkships on the table. At least the idea, so far. Frankly, our core volunteer base is fragile, and as someone who has seen the organization go from a pile of abandoned bikes to a thriving community center, I'm nervous at the sustainability. Our co-op is currently a reincarnation of the old Third Hand, whose previous founders/members disbanded. For us (in my opinion), at the center of this issue, is the concept of sustainability. How can we create a community bike workshop fixture in our community? It seems that if a group of talented leaders can coordinate volunteers in such a way that it creates a base of people to fulfill the mission of their organization- awesome! That would be my first choice. But from my perspective, here in Columbus, our volunteers too often silently groan under the weight of keeping open hours to meet the demands of the people of our city. It seems to take looking inwardly (at how the shop is running, functioning) as much as it takes looking outwardly (how to incorporate new potential supporters, volunteers, mechanics). And often we have to reassess what we're trying to do- Not be a used bike shop, but instead a community workshop/education facility. On a side note, our BikeBike contigency (made up mostly of our core volunteers) has decided that we can't ride from Columbus to San Francisco (like we originally planned) this year because we'd probably have to close the shop for the time while we'd be gone. That said (and to simplify), I've come to feel that the issue has two major factors: what is the mission of your organization, and how can you best fulfill it? And what does the body (members/participants/volunteers) of your organization decide? And currently we don't do 'outside' workshops, so paying people to do that "extra" work has only barely come up. Though, when it did, it was touchy, and as I said, divisive. Justin Morse, Third Hand Bike Co-op in Columbus, Ohio

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Let's Promote Each Other on the Web
by Jay Varner 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

Long story short, the BNC's directory of shops provides a XML feed...but it seems to only work in Safari (which is just useless and offensive). Anyway, I wrote a little script that addresses the error and returns valid XML. The valid XML feed can be found at: http://sopobikes.org/static/BNC.xml In theory, every night at midnight (Eastern Time), the feed will be updated to reflect any additions that occurred during the day. In the next few days, I'll try to get the BNC site to pump more info into the feed...but right now...I"m sleepy. Do with it what ya'll will and let me know what data you would like to have included in the feed. Enjoy and in solidarity, Jay Varner Sopo Bike Co-op Atlanta P.S. As of right now I've only tested the fixed feed on: Windows Vista -> IE7, FireFox 3 and Opera 9.5 Windows XP -> IE6, IE7 OS X Leopard -> Safari 3.1.1, FireFox 3, Camino 1.5.5, Opera 9.2.7 Ubuntu -> FireFox 3 So let me know if (and on what platform/in which browser) you get an error (though you shouldn't get an error).

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Re: [TheThinkTank] contracts for Earn-a-Bike youth?
by BovineOaks＠aol.com 24 Jun '08

24 Jun '08

We had one rule in our bike shop, and the kids enforced it in a democratic method. The rule is : Act Professionally Professional language Professional tool usage Professional Trip planning Professional fun Professional acts Professional goals Professional education Professional EVERYTHING There are thousands of positive professional things you, volunteers, and kids can do every day. Grow Christopher Wallace Holistic Cycles **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

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Volunteers vs. Paid Staff, Bike Shop Empowerment
by Macho Philipovich 24 Jun '08

24 Jun '08

Hey everyone. We're trying to sort through a couple of issues at the shop right now, and I'd like to see if any others have experiences with similar situations that they could share. 1. We like to keep as many open shop hours as our volunteer capacity will allow, which doesn't leave much left for running other programs. Our shop is located in a poor part of town, and we're finding a lot of schools, community centres, and immigrant organizations are asking us to run workshops for kids. The said community organizations, though, are often willing to provide honoraria for this work. In the past we've just had the money donated back to the bike project, but now people who run the programs are starting to keep it for themselves, and we're kind of feeling torn. On the one hand, partnering with community organizations so that kids can have access to bikes and bike repair tools & skills is amazing, and is basically why we exist, and giving our volunteers, most of whom are low-income, some monetary compensation is great, especially since we are a very financially stable shop. On the other hand, there is also the concern that if volunteers start to be paid, it will take them away from our open shop hours, and leave other volunteers to do essentially the same work, only without getting paid. This could seemingly cause resentment, hard feelings, and the general deterioration of our shop. We're not, at this time, able to or interested in paying all volunteer mechanics all of the time. So this is something we have to find a way to reasonably resolve. 2. This question is especially directed at shops that view themselves as committed to radical social change, but answers from anyone are welcome. We've just switched over from a "free-for-all" kind of setup where people can waltz in to the shop, start wrenching away, and ask for help if anyone is around to offer it, to our new setup where people need to sign in with a greeter and if there are no available mechanics, they have to wait outside. This has almost eliminated the chaos and frustration that was until recently a staple at the shop, but also has people worried. We are starting to feel like we are "policing" people and treating those who use the shop with suspicion, and that the shop is starting to feel much more like a regular liberal social work program or soup kitchen where there is a clear divide between staff ("you've already had your one bowl of soup!") and people fixing their bikes, rather than a space where different people are welcome to make a meaningful contribution, and become empowered to be invested in the space and take a leadership role. Has anyone experienced either of these things in their shop? Any thoughts? Solutions? Thanks, Macho of the Bike Dump http://bike-dump.ca

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Do you have something for me to do?.........
by Rich Points 24 Jun '08

24 Jun '08

How many times do we hear this question every day? Our Earn-A-Bike program consists of 10 hours of community service doing chores around the shop. We've had record numbers of EABers this spring and our list of chores is burned through in the first couple hours of any given day. So for the rest of the time the shop facilitators make up chores on the fly. This is particularly hard when the 20 people in the shop are asking two or three facilitators a constant stream of questions. Maybe we have too many people in the shop but I think if we had a better way to keep people working on projects. How are you keeping people busy in your shop? Peace -- Rich Points Community Cycles Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019

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southeast regional bikebike, atlanta, ga, january 09
by rachael spiewak 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

Hiya, friends. We're kicking around the idea of hosting a Southeast Regional BikeBike here in Atlanta in January. Being centrally located in the region and having a little bit of shop success, we've been hosting visitors and fielding questions from people in the very beginning stages of community bike shoppery (ranging from Columbia, SC to Savannah, GA, as well as neighborhoods around the Metro Atlanta region). We thought it would be nice to get everyone in this part of the woods together to have conversation-style workshops designed to help folks tackle the practical issues of getting started, especially within the socio-economic and political context of the South. We've got an amazing community arts center at our disposal, and it's down the street from our shop, making things awfully convenient and affordable. Food not Bombs has even agreed to help keep us fed. This is not meant to detract from BikeBike. We could call it the Dirty South Community Bike Shop Jamboree if it needs to have a different name. We just thought it would be nice to have something designed to help folks who are just starting out and who might not be able to make it to Cali in September. Plus, we like to party. So...if you're interested in participating, please let us know! Of course, everyone is invited. -rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues/Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat/Sun 2 pm - 6 pm

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Volunteers vs. Paid Staff
by Jonathan Morrison 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

We are trying to figure this out too, that being said... http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paid_vs._Volunteer -- Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/ The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households. On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Macho Philipovich <macho(a)resist.ca> wrote: > > Hey everyone. We're trying to sort through a couple of issues at the shop > right now, and I'd like to see if any others have experiences with similar > situations that they could share. > > 1. We like to keep as many open shop hours as our volunteer capacity will > allow, which doesn't leave much left for running other programs. Our shop > is located in a poor part of town, and we're finding a lot of schools, > community centres, and immigrant organizations are asking us to run > workshops for kids. The said community organizations, though, are often > willing to provide honoraria for this work. In the past we've just had the > money donated back to the bike project, but now people who run the programs > are starting to keep it for themselves, and we're kind of feeling torn. On > the one hand, partnering with community organizations so that kids can have > access to bikes and bike repair tools & skills is amazing, and is basically > why we exist, and giving our volunteers, most of whom are low-income, some > monetary compensation is great, especially since we are a very financially > stable shop. On the other hand, there is also the concern that if > volunteers start to be paid, it will take them away from our open shop > hours, and leave other volunteers to do essentially the same work, only > without getting paid. This could seemingly cause resentment, hard feelings, > and the general deterioration of our shop. We're not, at this time, able to > or interested in paying all volunteer mechanics all of the time. So this is > something we have to find a way to reasonably resolve. > > > > Has anyone experienced either of these things in their shop? Any thoughts? > Solutions? > > Thanks, > Macho of the Bike Dump > http://bike-dump.ca > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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contracts for Earn-a-Bike youth?
by The Recyclery 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

Hi all, I was wondering if shops with E-a-B or after-school programs had their participants sign contracts at the beginning, either with rules of the shop, expectations, qualifications for getting the bike, etc. If you're willing to share your contracts with the list, that would be much appreciated! Also, a general discussion on the successes and failures of these contracts would be good. The Recyclery is starting our second E-a-B summer tomorrow! Thanks, Sharlyn

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Special Reminder: NBW Bike Part Art Raid TONIGHT
by Neighborhood Bike Works 17 Jun '08

17 Jun '08

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