TheThinkTank February 2009

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic
by james blesdoe 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

How many bikes can you make from a hummer I hope this Comm major is enlightened in this interaction. but on the other hand does it mater how we get them out of the car and on to the bike a good deal of the lemmings in cars didn't make the choice to drive from their point of view they had no options cars were just what people do to survive. The times are only going to make it harder for us and better in the long run for our movement. In Los Angeles " fixed gear hipsters" are every where or so i am told when i see someone on a bike, fixed or not, i see one less car. If it becomes chic to use bicycles we win! If style mavens every where identify with bicycles we win! still I would be inclined not to be interviewed by this guy we have a long way to go. Jim --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 7:16 AM if someone uses a term like "fixed gear hipster" they have answered like 3/4 of those questions they wanted to ask us On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Boson Au <boson.au(a)gmail.com> wrote: hahah wow "Hi we'd like to undermine any genuine altruistic motivations your organization has by having your representation in our snarky tongue in cheek final project." On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Erik Stockmeier <estockme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From a local clown ... > > > Subject: Interview > To: info(a)therecyclery.org > > > My name is David, and I am a Sophomore here at Northwestern. I am taking a > class called Persuasive Images in the School of Comm, and have chosen to do > a my final project on the idea of "Recession Chic". My group and I are > interested in why those who can spend whatever they want, choose to emulate > a more modest lifestyle. Regardless of the actual savings, the appearance of > budgeting and thrift is now stylish. One aspect of the recession chic > lifestyle that we are looking into is bicycle riding. I was curious if you > could tell us a little about the motivations for bicycle riding, health, > style (as in fixed gear hipsters), going green, etc. Also I am curious as to > how your collective has been doing with the recession. > > I would love to talk with you, and ideally, I would love to be able to > videotape the interview if you feel comfortable with that. If this is > something that you would be up for, let me know when you are available this > coming week! > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration. > > Hope to have the opportunity to meet you soon, > David > > > > -- > The Recyclery > 847.424.1419 > 735 Reba Place, Basement > Evanston, IL 60202 > www.therecyclery.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- froilan eliseo landeros -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic
by james blesdoe 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Good point Wilbur, --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Wilbur Ince <wilbur(a)wilbur.us> wrote: From: Wilbur Ince <wilbur(a)wilbur.us> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 9:33 AM You have an opportunity to engage with a real human being. He is looking to understand the world he lives in. This is where bicycle evangelism starts, and where communal understanding grows. You have something to learn from this person, go find out what it is. Is he wrong for being the product of his society? Are you better/smarter/wiser because you have had a different experience on this planet? Wilbur james blesdoe wrote: How many bikes can you make from a hummer I hope this Comm major is enlightened in this interaction. but on the other hand does it mater how we get them out of the car and on to the bike a good deal of the lemmings in cars didn't make the choice to drive from their point of view they had no options cars were just what people do to survive. The times are only going to make it harder for us and better in the long run for our movement. In Los Angeles " fixed gear hipsters" are every where or so i am told when i see someone on a bike, fixed or not, i see one less car. If it becomes chic to use bicycles we win! If style mavens every where identify with bicycles we win! still I would be inclined not to be interviewed by this guy we have a long way to go. Jim --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 7:16 AM if someone uses a term like "fixed gear hipster" they have answered like 3/4 of those questions they wanted to ask us On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Boson Au <boson.au(a)gmail.com> wrote: hahah wow "Hi we'd like to undermine any genuine altruistic motivations your organization has by having your representation in our snarky tongue in cheek final project." On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Erik Stockmeier <estockme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From a local clown ... > > > Subject: Interview > To: info(a)therecyclery.org > > > My name is David, and I am a Sophomore here at Northwestern. I am taking a > class called Persuasive Images in the School of Comm, and have chosen to do > a my final project on the idea of "Recession Chic". My group and I are > interested in why those who can spend whatever they want, choose to emulate > a more modest lifestyle. Regardless of the actual savings, the appearance of > budgeting and thrift is now stylish. One aspect of the recession chic > lifestyle that we are looking into is bicycle riding. I was curious if you > could tell us a little about the motivations for bicycle riding, health, > style (as in fixed gear hipsters), going green, etc. Also I am curious as to > how your collective has been doing with the recession. > > I would love to talk with you, and ideally, I would love to be able to > videotape the interview if you feel comfortable with that. If this is > something that you would be up for, let me know when you are available this > coming week! > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration. > > Hope to have the opportunity to meet you soon, > David > > > > -- > The Recyclery > 847.424.1419 > 735 Reba Place, Basement > Evanston, IL 60202 > www.therecyclery.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- froilan eliseo landeros -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Summer Northeast Bike Collective Documentary (i need volunteers for places I can stay and shoot)
by Cris Shirley 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hey! My name's Cris Shirley, I'm a student at Yale in Environmental Studies, and I'm making documentary on bike collectives in the northeast for my senior thesis (Environmental Studies degree). I'm planning to start shooting at the beginning of the summer, riding my bike to the collectives, and staying for around a week. I'm trying to get my contacts and schedule laid out now so I can pack in a much over the summer as possible. I wanted to give collectives a heads up, and if your interested in getting filmed, or your collective included, or if you could host me for a bit of time in town, etc. Any references to people or places that might be good to film would be great too. Also, I'm looking for some *stock footage* or stuff that's been shot on bike collectives that I might be able to include in my documentary, so I'd like to talk to anyone that has done any camera or audio work that might be interested in sharing. On that note, any *music* that has been made that works with theme of collectives, bikes, etc would be awesome to try to include in the project. Also, if you have any art or are an artist that would like to be included in the project. Thanks! Cris

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Recession Chic
by Erik Stockmeier 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

>From a local clown ... Subject: Interview To: info(a)therecyclery.org My name is David, and I am a Sophomore here at Northwestern. I am taking a class called Persuasive Images in the School of Comm, and have chosen to do a my final project on the idea of "Recession Chic". My group and I are interested in why those who can spend whatever they want, choose to emulate a more modest lifestyle. Regardless of the actual savings, the appearance of budgeting and thrift is now stylish. One aspect of the recession chic lifestyle that we are looking into is bicycle riding. I was curious if you could tell us a little about the motivations for bicycle riding, health, style (as in fixed gear hipsters), going green, etc. Also I am curious as to how your collective has been doing with the recession. I would love to talk with you, and ideally, I would love to be able to videotape the interview if you feel comfortable with that. If this is something that you would be up for, let me know when you are available this coming week! Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Hope to have the opportunity to meet you soon, David -- The Recyclery 847.424.1419 735 Reba Place, Basement Evanston, IL 60202 www.therecyclery.org

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Proper way to dispose of dirty rags?
by Boson Au 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

What is everyone's method of disposing rags that are just too infused with grease and other dangerous substances? We've been just more or less storing ours in fireproof containers but we really need a proper, environmentally safe, and hopefully not too costly method of disposal.

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Deciding which kid gets to ride first in line
by Rich Points 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

Hey All, We do various youth activities through the shop and one thing always comes up when we ride with 10-15 year old kids; they all want to ride in the front of the single file "peloton". In this context it actually means second because they follow the class instructor. Does anyone have ideas about a fair way of who gets the number one spot? Thanks -- Rich Points Community Cycles Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 Donate your old car to Community Cycles

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Fwd: FW: Amgen Tour of California Stage 7 Results
by bike talk 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Abbott, Megan (LAN-GHI) <mabbott(a)golinharris.com> Date: Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM Subject: FW: Amgen Tour of California Stage 7 Results To: livebiketalk(a)gmail.com Here you go! ------------------------------ *From:* Abbott, Megan (LAN-GHI) *Sent:* Sat 2/21/2009 8:28 PM *Subject:* Amgen Tour of California Stage 7 Results Hi All, Attached are the results from Stage 7 of the Amgen Tour of California as well as the general classification. *Stage 7 top-five finishers*: 1) Rinaldo Nocentini (ITA), AG2R La Mondiale 2) Hayden Roulston (NZL), Cervelo Test Team 3) Pieter Weening (NED), Rabobank 4) Markus Zberg (SUI), BMC Racing Team 5) Martin Elmiger (SUI), AG2R La Mondiale *General Classification top-five standings as of Stage 7:* 1) Levi Leipheimer (USA), Astana 2) David Zabriskie (USA), Garmin-Slipstream 3) Michael Rogers (AUS), Team Columbia-High Road 4) Jens Voigt (GER), Team Saxo Bank 5) Thomas Lövkvist (SWE), Team Columbia-High Road *Stage 7 jersey winners include:* Amgen Race Leader Jersey- Levi Leipheimer (USA), Astana Amgen's *Breakaway from Cancer* Most Courageous Rider Jersey- Christian VendeVelde (USA), Garmin-Slipstream Herbalife Sprint Jersey- Mark Cavendish (GBR), Team Columbia-High Road Rabobank Best Young Rider Jersey- Robert Gesink (NED), Rabobank California Travel & Tourism Commission King of the Mountain (KOM) Jersey- Jason McCartney (USA), Team Saxo Bank Best, Megan * * ** -- please let me know if you want to be taken off this list. Hear Bike Talk! on kpfk: http://www.kpfk.org/programs/170-bike-talk.html or see what's new with us at biketalk.us

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Expanding Shop Hours - what happens?
by Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

UBP is currently open two days of the week, one Thursday night and one Saturday afternoon. We are considering opening another weeknight, as our current hours sometimes get really, really crowded. For anyone that has recently expanded their hours or can recall when you did so in the past: Did opening more hours decrease traffic on your other open days, or merely become another busy night? We are entering our second year of operation, still growing and anticipate being even more crowded this year. Thanks for your insight, Brian Windle Urban Bike Project of Wilmington -a 501(c)3 non-profit bike shop- 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801 Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00 Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Expanding Shop Hours - what happens?
by james blesdoe 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

The bicycle kitchen is open 6 days a week and for 29 hours in those days if we were open for more than that we would be full If you open and they don't come then go back. But really it is more can you staff the additional days. Our shop is booked for appointments about a week in advance Our year to year revenue is down by about haft but volume is increasing In the past we might ask for $10 and receive $5 or $20 but now we get only $7 So it goes Jim <mark(a)re-cycles.ca> wrote: From: Mark Rehder <mark(a)re-cycles.ca> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Expanding Shop Hours - what happens? To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:35 AM Brian, you'll probably find it's like highway construction - build more roads and more cars fill them up. ;) I don't think you'll find it decreases anything. Like most shops, every hour you are open will have people requesting your services. During Spring and into the Summer it is barely-managed chaos in our shop, but we make it through (upon moving into our new shop we've added a second volunteer staff position to help manage things). Ever since we allowed do-it-yourself repair on every shift we've struggled to meet that demand, because we could have all four workstands humming every night, but that would crowd out the volunteers. And the volunteers are the ones that fix up the bikes that pay our rent. The DIY only adds minimally to our bottom line, but we all feel it's important that folks have a place to fix their own bikes. So we carry on... Last summer I started staffing Sundays from 3-6 (to fit my schedule that day) and made it a volunteer-only shift - no DIY, and no sales. The turnout was not as good as I'd hoped, but even through this winter I've had from one to six vols. attending. But if I made it a DIY day I'd be swamped. Now for this coming Spring we're looking at opening on Mondays during the day and Saturday afternoons, using paid staff (the other weekdays have our partner org. using our shop for training purposes). The Mondays will be like the evenings - open to all, and we'll test the demand. But the Saturdays will most likely be just sales and volunteers, because even with two staff the DIY demand would probably be over the top. Maybe we'll add DIY in the Summer after the Spring sales settle down... Mark On 20-Feb-09, at 1:49 PM, Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE wrote: > UBP is currently open two days of the week, one Thursday night and one Saturday afternoon. We are considering opening another weeknight, as our current hours sometimes get really, really crowded. > > For anyone that has recently expanded their hours or can recall when you did so in the past: Did opening more hours decrease traffic on your other open days, or merely become another busy night? > > We are entering our second year of operation, still growing and anticipate being even more crowded this year. > > Thanks for your insight, > Brian Windle > > Urban Bike Project of Wilmington > -a 501(c)3 non-profit bike shop- > 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) > Wilmington, DE 19801 > > Hours: > Thursday 6:30-9:00 > Saturday 1:00-4:00 > > Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Expanding Shop Hours - what happens?
by Bob Giordano 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

we found same thing- another busy session, until we reached about 20 hours a week... then things started to even out a bit. we are now pondering 10-7 daily... -- Bob Giordano Free Cycles Missoula Shop: 732 S. 1st St. West, 541.7284 3PM-7PM Mon-Thurs & 11AM-3PM Sat Missoula Institute for Sustainable Transportation www.strans.org, mist(a)strans.org, 406-880-6834 rachael spiewak wrote: > Became another busy session! > > -rachael // sopo // atl > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE < > urbanbikeproject(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> UBP is currently open two days of the week, one Thursday night and one >> Saturday afternoon. We are considering opening another weeknight, as >> our >> current hours sometimes get really, really crowded. >> >> For anyone that has recently expanded their hours or can recall when you >> did so in the past: Did opening more hours decrease traffic on your >> other >> open days, or merely become another busy night? >> >> We are entering our second year of operation, still growing and >> anticipate >> being even more crowded this year. >> >> Thanks for your insight, >> Brian Windle >> >> Urban Bike Project of Wilmington

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