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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 170, Issue 9
by Lawrence Mohammed 27 Nov '20

27 Nov '20

Hi Tegan, almost everything we do operates within a gift economy * Servicing has a labour 'value' attached as a guide of what this would be in a conventional workshop, people choose to pay what they feel/what they can - some pay the full amount, some overpay, some underpay, some simply receive. We service bikes ranging from £50 to £10,000 (Bosch e-bike certified, etc) * We are often gifted old bikes (many that would be rejected by other non-profits and refused at a normal workshop but very occasionally, some that are worth a few hundred pounds). We full service these, sometimes just keeping the frame and building up everything. The money for parts (if not using good 2nd hand parts) is paid for by profits from servicing. Volunteers learn lots. * No one takes a salary, everyone gets lunch and coffees and travel (if they want) paid for. Any personal bike servicing has no labour cost attached and free learning from a senior qualified mechanic. * I'm currently taking a training fee from a schools programme I designed and run once a week during term time. * We are training mechanics up to Cytech 2 and senior mechanics up to and beyond the level of Cytech 3 (though not certifying them due to cost at the moment). We managed to get a community fund for training so far, but are building up a wiki resource for our own training programme which will become and remain open source....I've written programmes (and certified modular programmes) for a few organisations. I've also been a teacher and trainer for about 25years in various subjects. * w.r.t Refurbished bikes - these are valued at a going market rate - and since Covid, people pay what they can for them. I used to draw an income from this (this was the only income I drew) but after the pandemic, and with the training which I can live on (the rent of the flat I live in is currently gifted), I do not need any more money to get by with comfort. The deep trust encourages others to share and deeply support the team - including for example during the pandemic when one volunteer became very ill and one of our community stepped up and gifted three months of therapy, twice per week (usually £100+ per session). * The model we work in is making sure the team are well looked after so they can look after the community - it feeds back ;) * I'm exploring how to support future Workshop Managers at the moment as I'm still the Workshop Manager as well as the CEO & Head Mechanic (Accountant, lead trainer, etc etc) - not sure whether anyone else will step up to cover someone's rent but...who knows?! ;) In service, *Lawrence Mohammed* CEO and Founder Pro Bike Service C.I.C. *+44 (0)77 222 58587* *probikeservice.co.uk <https://probikeservice.co.uk>* /::Olympic Park Site:: Pro Bike Service C.I.C. Multi-Storey Car Park, Lesney Avenue Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park London E20 3BS *map location <https://what3words.com/upset.habit.funds>* / On 27/11/2020 21:03, thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Paying People who Refurbish Bikes (Tegan Moss [B!KE]) > 2. Re: Paying People who Refurbish Bikes (Cyclista Nicholas) > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Shop Operations During Covid
by momoko saunders 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

Hey all, I'd love to get a quick update on what shops are doing for shop operations during covid. There was an awesome virtual workshop put on a few months ago. What are shops up to now? At Bike Farm, we're still far from being open in our usual way. We have a parts selling shift for one day of the week. We meet people outside and get a list of items they want to purchase, then volunteers rummage around and find the parts and bring them out for the patron to choose from. We do not allow use of tools which is really hard but most people understand. We do have a selection of tools which we have available for sale for real cheap. This includes random loose allen wrenches, other wrenches, multi tools. Here are the guidelines for this shift <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xu3qCapSPopoQ7VbiqyG1VJdroA6WiJwBSPleTN…> . We also have a shift where volunteers work on bikes in the shop for sale or for our community partnerships. We limit all volunteer groups to 5 people at a time, and we try to keep people in germ bubbles so that if someone does get sick, we've limited the exposure. Everyone wears masks at all times and keeps distant. We have a 3rd night which we just added called our infrastructure night. On this night we work on cleaning the shop and making it more functional. We have a document outlining <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EthWNOhjeo4sOQZobhrvykb_gTB4aGRKeMdiL0T…> our covid protocols. I've made a copy of it for the thinktank to view. Everyone in the shop must read and agree to these guidelines before being able to volunteer. --- With a vaccine looking like it will not be here and widely available till summer or even fall of 2021, we're looking for more creative ways to provide resources to the community, stay safe, and maybe make some money to pay rent. I'd love to hear if others have come up with creative ways to continue operations during this time. Hope you all are well, -Momoko

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Artbook / Calendar / Zine - Kickstarter Project - Last 6 days.
by Skills-of-Bike Bookata 23 Nov '20

23 Nov '20

Think-tankers, I am sure you want our calendar on your wall, but just forgot about the deadline. You can have it all - Art book, zine, calendar, and a future deck of cards. All can be pre-ordered here: http://kck.st/3jC58as> <https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fkck.st%2F3jC58as%3Ffbclid%3DIwA…> Merci beaucoup from snowy Montreal Andrei + Dario (Bookata - BICI) 2020 *Skills of bike - Grip of life* <http://kck.st/3jC58as> <http://kck.st/3jC58as>skillsofbike(a)gmail.com https://dariocarta.com/home http://www.bookata.com/ m.me/skillsofbike https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1522759383/skills-of-bike-grip-of-life…

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Bike and Ped Job Postings
by Areli Morales 23 Nov '20

23 Nov '20

Hello All, My current job CalWalks <https://www.calwalks.org/> is hiring California-based Mobility Justice individuals. Volunteering at and running Bike CO-Ops definitely qualifies as experience. I for one would like to see more creative and meaningful community work translated into this state-wide work. Reach out if you have any questions. https://www.calwalks.org/work-with-us <https://www.calwalks.org/work-with-us?emci=a3612c83-5a2b-eb11-9fb4-00155d43…> Join our team of dedicated mobility justice advocates! We are currently hiring for energetic and detail-oriented Community Programs Managers or Coordinators! We're seeking Community Program Managers with strong experience in program development and management and a strong commitment to anti-racist work. The Community Programs Manager is responsible for developing, implementing, and managing the day-to-day operations of one of the organization’s walking and biking safety programs. We're looking for Community Programs Coordinators to support community capacity building and engagement work to create safer, healthier, and more equitable communities across California. Candidates must have a strong commitment to anti-racist work. -- *Areli Morales* LEED Green Associate LCI #6323

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Our Community Bikes Job Posting - Service Manager
by Sophia Suderman 23 Nov '20

23 Nov '20

Hello! Just putting the word out that we are hiring for a Service Manager at Our Community Bikes in Vancouver, BC. The job posting is attached. Please spread the word and share as you see fit. Thanks! Sophia -- Sophia Suderman Executive Director PEDAL - Pedal Energy Development Alternatives 2429 Main Street Unceded Coast Salish Territories www.pedalpower.org | (604) 879-2453

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looking for scrap wheels in Ft. Lauderdale
by Christopher Clark 17 Nov '20

17 Nov '20

I have a board member who is a sculpture artist. He's building an installation in Ft. Lauderdale using old wheels. We scrounged up a couple hundred for him to take with him but he's looking for about 30 more this week. Anyone have a line on scrap bike wheels in the Davie, FL, USA area? Non-functional preferred. Attached a pic of what he's got so far. He needs them this week.Best, Chris <http://www.scbikes.org>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
by Tegan Moss [B!KE] 09 Nov '20

09 Nov '20

B!KE began using MyTurn.com in April and we are very happy with it. We started a small bicycle tool library <https://communitybikeshop.myturn.com/library/> and are also using my turn to very successfully manage our membership database. We chose MyTurn over other platforms because it is a company that is deeply invested in the sharing economy. It has flexibility (like sliding scale fees) that really reflects the needs of a more grass roots organizational approach. I think it could easily be configured to have check-out fees and partial refunds with a return. The lead developer Gene is great. I would suggest folks take a look at it if you are looking for either a library system or need affordable support with member management. Cheers, Tegan On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 4:03 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 6 month Bike "Checkout" System w/ the option to buy > (Bill Leddy) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bill Leddy <bill(a)williesworkshop.net> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 10:39:07 -0800 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] 6 month Bike "Checkout" System w/ the option > to buy > Hi All, > > Before I begin, I apologize in advance for the length of this post… > > I’m new to this list. I’ve been a volunteer with Sacramento Area Bicycle > Advocates (SABA) for a number of years. As part of my work at SABA I’ve > created a few on-line systems that we have been using. > > Commenting on Jonathan’s post, though I’m not fluent in PHP, assuming the > source code is available (very likely) that sounds like a good way to get > your system back on line quickly. As a next step, finding someone to > upgrade the code to a modern version of PHP would surly be quicker and > easier than starting from scratch. On the other hand, sometimes with > experience gained, a substantial re-write may make the app a lot better. > > As a kinda-sorta response to Audrey’s question about other systems, I’d > like to share something I’m currently working on for SABA which I hope may > be relevant. > > When “the thing” started in March, a number of bike organizations began > “Bike Match” programs with a focus on getting under used bikes into the > hands of essential workers who were having trouble commuting to their jobs > etc. It stated in NY and DC, I believe, as a one on one match making scheme > where the donor and recipient would make their own arrangements to meet and > hand off the bike. SABA tried setting up a similar program but in a > smaller, far less dense city, the logistics simply did not work. The > distances between the donors and recipients are too great. There was a lot > of bike schlepping on our part so it just didn’t scale. > > We are on the verge of relaunching SABA BikeMatch with a very different > approach which, after viewing the Bike Library site, sounds an awful lot > like what Audrey’s organization is doing but with a bit of an on-line > shopping element. Rather than scheduling people to come in and find a bike, > we plan to post the available bikes on line. Bikes are reserved for a very > limited time with a specific appointment date and time. At the appointed > time, the recipient comes to pickup their bike. If they don’t show, the > bike automatically becomes available for someone else. > > You can play around with the development site here: > https://bikematch.williesworkshop.net Feel free to “reserve” a bike and > check it out. > > The site is still in development but should all work, as far as it goes. I > would love to hear feed back and any suggestions or questions you have. > > Getting back to Audrey’s question, I could imagine this system expanding > to include a Library functionality. I think all the major pieces are there. > I look forward to hearing your comments. > > In case there is anyone still reading this, I have another system which > I’ve created that other organizations may be interested in... > > What with “the thing” this year SABA has not been doing too many public > events but we used to do a lot of Valet Bike Parking and a community bike > repair program we call Bike MD. After using another system for years, I was > finally fed up enough with what I thought were short comings and created a > system for publicizing events and allowing volunteers and staff to schedule > themselves for shifts. You can check it out here: > > https://events.sacbike.org > > For those of a technical frame of mind, it’s open source written in Python > and is available at: http://github.com/wleddy/staffing > The site is not entirely customizable at this time, but if anyone is > interested in making use of it, it might be just the push I need to clean > it up. > > Regards, > Bill Leddy > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Jonathan Rosenbaum <gnuser(a)gmail.com> > > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > > Cc: > > Bcc: > > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 23:05:04 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] 6 month Bike "Checkout" System w/ the option > to buy > > Hi Audrey, > > > > Is the code for the Bike Library Checkout App available anywhere? > > > > Regardless, I should be able to provide a resolution for this issue. The > easiest solution would be to run the app in a virtualized container that > has the correct libraries. Exactly like with the reuse of bikes, you can > reuse code. > > > > -Jonathan > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:17 AM Audrey Wiedemeier < > audrey(a)bikelibrary.org> wrote: > > Hello Friends: > > > > Yesterday the Bike Library Checkout App that is custom built html failed > to load. It won't be an easy fix as the Bike Lib. app was running on a > really old version of php; a version that is no longer supported. The code > is at least ten years old and likely will need to be completely rewritten. > That being said, we need to decide to rewrite the code or query other > operations out there. > > > > The order of operation for the Checkout System is: > > - find a bike, put down a deposit of $100-$300, sign the liability > waiver, patron takes bike > > - on our end each bike has a 4-digit number that gets entered into our > system with bike specs and the 6 month "due date" is recorded with that > number > > - six months go by and the patron can return the bike for a refund of > their deposit minus $50 OR they simply keep the bike and we keep their > deposit $. > > - if they return it we make sure we have an updated mailing address, and > the app lets us know how much we need to write the check out for to send > via snail mail > > > > My questions to y'all are: > > > > 1 Do other shops operate in a similar fashion? If so, what POS system > are you using? > > > > 2 Are there other shops out there who would want to replicate this > checkout system? We have always wanted to make it easier to share and now > would be the time to do it. > > > > 3 Have you heard of any new tech solutions that we should research? I've > heard it's easier than ever to build your own app and I've fallen behind so > maybe is a simple solution. > > > > > > > > Peace & grease, > > > > Audrey Wiedemeier (She/her/hers) > > Iowa City Bike Library, Director > > > > 700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City > > COVID Hours: Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM > > Need something? Set up an appointment by email. > > Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you! > > > > BikeLibrary.org > > C: (515) 450-1651 > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > -- Executive Director B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 293 George St, Peterborough ON (705) 775-7227 communitybikeshop.org she/her

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Re: [TheThinkTank] 6 month Bike "Checkout" System w/ the option to buy
by Bill Leddy 08 Nov '20

08 Nov '20

Hi All, Before I begin, I apologize in advance for the length of this post… I’m new to this list. I’ve been a volunteer with Sacramento Area Bicycle Advocates (SABA) for a number of years. As part of my work at SABA I’ve created a few on-line systems that we have been using. Commenting on Jonathan’s post, though I’m not fluent in PHP, assuming the source code is available (very likely) that sounds like a good way to get your system back on line quickly. As a next step, finding someone to upgrade the code to a modern version of PHP would surly be quicker and easier than starting from scratch. On the other hand, sometimes with experience gained, a substantial re-write may make the app a lot better. As a kinda-sorta response to Audrey’s question about other systems, I’d like to share something I’m currently working on for SABA which I hope may be relevant. When “the thing” started in March, a number of bike organizations began “Bike Match” programs with a focus on getting under used bikes into the hands of essential workers who were having trouble commuting to their jobs etc. It stated in NY and DC, I believe, as a one on one match making scheme where the donor and recipient would make their own arrangements to meet and hand off the bike. SABA tried setting up a similar program but in a smaller, far less dense city, the logistics simply did not work. The distances between the donors and recipients are too great. There was a lot of bike schlepping on our part so it just didn’t scale. We are on the verge of relaunching SABA BikeMatch with a very different approach which, after viewing the Bike Library site, sounds an awful lot like what Audrey’s organization is doing but with a bit of an on-line shopping element. Rather than scheduling people to come in and find a bike, we plan to post the available bikes on line. Bikes are reserved for a very limited time with a specific appointment date and time. At the appointed time, the recipient comes to pickup their bike. If they don’t show, the bike automatically becomes available for someone else. You can play around with the development site here: https://bikematch.williesworkshop.net Feel free to “reserve” a bike and check it out. The site is still in development but should all work, as far as it goes. I would love to hear feed back and any suggestions or questions you have. Getting back to Audrey’s question, I could imagine this system expanding to include a Library functionality. I think all the major pieces are there. I look forward to hearing your comments. In case there is anyone still reading this, I have another system which I’ve created that other organizations may be interested in... What with “the thing” this year SABA has not been doing too many public events but we used to do a lot of Valet Bike Parking and a community bike repair program we call Bike MD. After using another system for years, I was finally fed up enough with what I thought were short comings and created a system for publicizing events and allowing volunteers and staff to schedule themselves for shifts. You can check it out here: https://events.sacbike.org For those of a technical frame of mind, it’s open source written in Python and is available at: http://github.com/wleddy/staffing The site is not entirely customizable at this time, but if anyone is interested in making use of it, it might be just the push I need to clean it up. Regards, Bill Leddy > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jonathan Rosenbaum <gnuser(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 23:05:04 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] 6 month Bike "Checkout" System w/ the option to buy > Hi Audrey, > > Is the code for the Bike Library Checkout App available anywhere? > > Regardless, I should be able to provide a resolution for this issue. The easiest solution would be to run the app in a virtualized container that has the correct libraries. Exactly like with the reuse of bikes, you can reuse code. > > -Jonathan > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:17 AM Audrey Wiedemeier <audrey(a)bikelibrary.org> wrote: > Hello Friends: > > Yesterday the Bike Library Checkout App that is custom built html failed to load. It won't be an easy fix as the Bike Lib. app was running on a really old version of php; a version that is no longer supported. The code is at least ten years old and likely will need to be completely rewritten. That being said, we need to decide to rewrite the code or query other operations out there. > > The order of operation for the Checkout System is: > - find a bike, put down a deposit of $100-$300, sign the liability waiver, patron takes bike > - on our end each bike has a 4-digit number that gets entered into our system with bike specs and the 6 month "due date" is recorded with that number > - six months go by and the patron can return the bike for a refund of their deposit minus $50 OR they simply keep the bike and we keep their deposit $. > - if they return it we make sure we have an updated mailing address, and the app lets us know how much we need to write the check out for to send via snail mail > > My questions to y'all are: > > 1 Do other shops operate in a similar fashion? If so, what POS system are you using? > > 2 Are there other shops out there who would want to replicate this checkout system? We have always wanted to make it easier to share and now would be the time to do it. > > 3 Have you heard of any new tech solutions that we should research? I've heard it's easier than ever to build your own app and I've fallen behind so maybe is a simple solution. > > > > Peace & grease, > > Audrey Wiedemeier (She/her/hers) > Iowa City Bike Library, Director > > 700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City > COVID Hours: Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM > Need something? Set up an appointment by email. > Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you! > > BikeLibrary.org > C: (515) 450-1651

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6 month Bike "Checkout" System w/ the option to buy
by Audrey Wiedemeier 06 Nov '20

06 Nov '20

Hello Friends: Yesterday the Bike Library Checkout App that is custom built html failed to load. It won't be an easy fix as the Bike Lib. app was running on a really old version of php; a version that is no longer supported. The code is at least ten years old and likely will need to be completely rewritten. That being said, we need to decide to rewrite the code or query other operations out there. The order of operation for the Checkout System is: - find a bike, put down a deposit of $100-$300, sign the liability waiver, patron takes bike - on our end each bike has a 4-digit number that gets entered into our system with bike specs and the 6 month "due date" is recorded with that number - six months go by and the patron can return the bike for a refund of their deposit minus $50 OR they simply keep the bike and we keep their deposit $. - if they return it we make sure we have an updated mailing address, and the app lets us know how much we need to write the check out for to send via snail mail My questions to y'all are: 1 Do other shops operate in a similar fashion? If so, what POS system are you using? 2 Are there other shops out there who would want to replicate this checkout system? We have always wanted to make it easier to share and now would be the time to do it. 3 Have you heard of any new tech solutions that we should research? I've heard it's easier than ever to build your own app and I've fallen behind so maybe is a simple solution. Peace & grease, *Audrey Wiedemeier* (She/her/hers) Iowa City Bike Library, Director 700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City *COVID Hours: *Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM Need something? Set up an appointment by email. Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you! BikeLibrary.org C: (515) 450-1651

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bike-centric kickstarter project
by Skills-of-Bike Bookata 06 Nov '20

06 Nov '20

Think-tankers, bonjour from Montreal, A shameless plug for our Kickstarter campaign - an art book, zine, calendar, and a future deck of cards can be pre-ordered here: http://kck.st/3jC58as> <https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fkck.st%2F3jC58as%3Ffbclid%3DIwA…> Annie "Londonderry", mother of two, was the first woman in history to travel solo, on her bicycle, around the globe. On her 150th birthday anniversary we couldn't resist putting together unusual and forgotten bicycle-themed visuals: posters, newspapers photographs, classic paintings and contemporary urban murals. Any kind of support from you would work- fund$ or a post on Facebook, Twitter, email to your personal or community networks. Merci beaucoup andrei

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unsubscribe
by Re-bicycle Lenawee 28 Oct '20

28 Oct '20

-- Re-bicycle Lenawee 313 E. Maumee St. Adrian, Mi 49221 A local non-profit organization dedicated to providing refurbished bicycles to members of Lenawee county.

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Shop operations during Covid
by Geoffrey Smart 21 Oct '20

21 Oct '20

Hi All, Like Dr Cranky's we are the state of Victoria Australia which unlike other states has undergone the longest lockdown anywhere in the world. Measures have included a limit of 5km movement except for going to work in the few areas that are operational. It's now been relaxed to 25km. Fortunately bike shops could undertake urgent repairs and now we are finally allowed to refurbish bikes for sale and donation but under strict conditions. Some of the effects have been extra stress on our shop managers who spend at least an hour a day cleaning. There is also a Covid protocol with checklists to be completed. Our volunteers have been limited to 4 per day and even with many volunteers self excluding we have to run a roster to limit volunteers. This contradicts our previous policy of allowing anyone to volunteer any day. Everyone must wear masks and disposable work gloves which can be difficult and the enforcement is another stress for the managers. For cleanliness reasons our kitchen is closed so we now get in takeaway for volunteers everyday. Any sales and servicing is click and collect with no interaction with the public. Fortunately we have been the beneficiaries of some government largesse which has to some extent allowed us to continue with our work. One of the unfortunate side effects has been a dip in the diversity of volunteers. At our next online meeting rebuilding diversity, especially women will be on the agenda. The flip side of the lockdown is that the state is finally getting under 5 new infections a day and the restrictions are gradually being relaxed. Geoff Smart Back2Bikes Port Melbourne Australia <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Shop Operations During Covid (nicole@bikesaviours.org)
by Nicole Muratore 20 Oct '20

20 Oct '20

TLDR; We are open in a *very* limited capacity and can expand our programs and services when A) Arizona isn't no longer a COVID-19 hot spot and B) we have enough volunteers return to man the shop. Our pandemic journey at Bike Saviours has been that of trial and error. After a soft reopening with curbside repair and parts shopping, I tested positive for COVID-19. We closed the shop completely to quarantine and evaluate next steps. Once everyone tested negative, we decided to keep the shop closed to the public and sell bigger ticket items to keep the lights on. So our two paid staff and a handful of volunteers are inside the building 5 days a week building bikes that we sell by appointment using Calendly. One of those days is reserved for just building bikes and no appointments. For our current use, Calendly has worked great and nonprofits get a 20% discount off a yearly subscription. We also have some fancy/rare items for sale on eBay. Volunteers sign up for a shift using VolunteerSignUp and there are only 5 slots available per shift to avoid overcrowding. Lofty, though, as we usually have 1 or 2 a day. DIY bike repair and instruction and parts shopping are central to our mission, so just fixing up and selling bikes feels weird. We field several emails, calls, and walk-ups each week and it's painful to say "sorry, we hate these circumstances, too" over and over. There are daily discussions about our capacity to bring back DIY repair and parts shopping and it's looking like we'll use Calendly to handle appointments for donation drop-offs, parts shopping, and bike repair at least until it's deemed safe to gather here in Arizona. Shop rules are that everyone wears a face covering, mechanics use every other repair stand to maintain distance, and disinfect their tools when finished using them. All the bikes for sale are disinfected between appointments. There is hand sanitizer throughout the shop and reminders posted to wash hands frequently. We use a combination of fans and open doors to provide positive air flow in the rooms where appointments are held in an area separate from the workshop. We haven't run out yet, but tube and tire supplies are running dangerously thin with little inventory to be found. Thank you for sharing your updates and smart ways of handling this crappy situation! Cheers, Nicole On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:03 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Shop Operations During Covid (momoko saunders) > 2. Re: Shop Operations During Covid (barts(a)drcrankys.com.au) > 3. Re: Shop Operations During Covid (Cyclista Nicholas) > 4. Re: Shop Operations During Covid (wormsign(a)gmail.com) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: momoko saunders <analyst(a)bikefarm.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:24:22 -0700 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Shop Operations During Covid > Hey all, > > I'd love to get a quick update on what shops are doing for shop > operations during covid. There was an awesome virtual workshop put on a few > months ago. What are shops up to now? > > At Bike Farm, we're still far from being open in our usual way. We have a > parts selling shift for one day of the week. We meet people outside and get > a list of items they want to purchase, then volunteers rummage around and > find the parts and bring them out for the patron to choose from. We do not > allow use of tools which is really hard but most people understand. We do > have a selection of tools which we have available for sale for real cheap. > This includes random loose allen wrenches, other wrenches, multi tools. > Here are the guidelines for this shift > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xu3qCapSPopoQ7VbiqyG1VJdroA6WiJwBSPleTN…> > . > > We also have a shift where volunteers work on bikes in the shop for sale > or for our community partnerships. We limit all volunteer groups to 5 > people at a time, and we try to keep people in germ bubbles so that if > someone does get sick, we've limited the exposure. Everyone wears masks at > all times and keeps distant. > > We have a 3rd night which we just added called our infrastructure night. > On this night we work on cleaning the shop and making it more functional. > > We have a document outlining > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EthWNOhjeo4sOQZobhrvykb_gTB4aGRKeMdiL0T…> > our covid protocols. I've made a copy of it for the thinktank to view. > Everyone in the shop must read and agree to these guidelines before being > able to volunteer. > > --- > > With a vaccine looking like it will not be here and widely available till > summer or even fall of 2021, we're looking for more creative ways to > provide resources to the community, stay safe, and maybe make some money to > pay rent. I'd love to hear if others have come up with creative ways to > continue operations during this time. > > Hope you all are well, > -Momoko > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: <barts(a)drcrankys.com.au> > To: "'The Think Tank'" <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 13:21:15 +1100 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Shop Operations During Covid > > At Dr Cranky’s we usually support Bicycle Hospitals run by parent > volunteers at schools. > > We can’t do that in Victoria, Australia so have tried shifting to > remote/contactless operations. > > We’ve managed to recycle over 50 bikes during CoVid and log the results > online without any contact. > > We send basic tool kits and parts to volunteers to use in their homes. > > > > See > https://www.drcrankys.com.au/uploads/8/6/0/2/86023530/remote_operations_und… > > > > > > > > Bart Sbeghen > > Founder/CEO, Dr Cranky’s > > M 0418 231 686 > > > > www.drcrankys.com.au > > > > *From:* Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> *On > Behalf Of *momoko saunders > *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 October 2020 12:24 PM > *To:* The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > *Subject:* [TheThinkTank] Shop Operations During Covid > > > > Hey all, > > > > I'd love to get a quick update on what shops are doing for shop > operations during covid. There was an awesome virtual workshop put on a few > months ago. What are shops up to now? > > > > At Bike Farm, we're still far from being open in our usual way. We have a > parts selling shift for one day of the week. We meet people outside and get > a list of items they want to purchase, then volunteers rummage around and > find the parts and bring them out for the patron to choose from. We do not > allow use of tools which is really hard but most people understand. We do > have a selection of tools which we have available for sale for real cheap. > This includes random loose allen wrenches, other wrenches, multi tools. > Here are the guidelines for this shift > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xu3qCapSPopoQ7VbiqyG1VJdroA6WiJwBSPleTN…> > . > > > > We also have a shift where volunteers work on bikes in the shop for sale > or for our community partnerships. We limit all volunteer groups to 5 > people at a time, and we try to keep people in germ bubbles so that if > someone does get sick, we've limited the exposure. Everyone wears masks at > all times and keeps distant. > > > > We have a 3rd night which we just added called our infrastructure night. > On this night we work on cleaning the shop and making it more functional. > > > > We have a document outlining > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EthWNOhjeo4sOQZobhrvykb_gTB4aGRKeMdiL0T…> > our covid protocols. I've made a copy of it for the thinktank to view. > Everyone in the shop must read and agree to these guidelines before being > able to volunteer. > > > > --- > > > > With a vaccine looking like it will not be here and widely available till > summer or even fall of 2021, we're looking for more creative ways to > provide resources to the community, stay safe, and maybe make some money to > pay rent. I'd love to hear if others have come up with creative ways to > continue operations during this time. > > > > Hope you all are well, > > -Momoko > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 06:55:02 +0000 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Shop Operations During Covid > At RIBs we're actually closed right now due to (mostly) non-covid-19 > reasons, but I just wanted to compliment you on your array of solutions. > > I feel like this episode has thrown everyone off, all of these kinds of > alternative procedures seeming unnaturally elaborate and intrusive, but > that in reality all our projects were made up of artificial and complex > processes anyway. So, we just design more processes. The pre-covid ones > just felt more natural because we liked them better or were used to > them. > > Bike Farm's covid processes look pretty well rounded, especially when > looking over your documents. I really like that you've broken down the > critical elements for support (parts and tools to the public, > refurbishing bikes, revenue creation, space care and development) and > developed models for each. I also like your email thread solution for > checking on unscheduled occupancy numbers, especially that you included > a provision for keeping it (more) private. We've set up a similar > email-thread-based checkin system for our volunteer nights. > > Re: unscheduled occupancy thread, I assume yours first-come-first-serve? > > Over here, before we closed (hopefully temporarily) we limited people in > the space to the quantity that could be present with a 6ft distance, > made all people interacting physically with the space wash or disinfect > hands before touching things, and required masks at all times even when > waiting out front for a slot. We're also considering getting one of > those wall mounted thermometers and doing temperature checks for > everyone seeking to enter the building, though that isn't required by > our state or local authorities at this time. And we also kept the front > door open but placed a sign (sandwich board) in front to block entry. > Our sign also features a cool rotating dial that shows how many slots > are available at any given time, though it's very simple and requires > staff or volunteers to have the presence of mind to update it with each > person leaving or entering. > > We're all smart people! I know it's stressful and tragic going through > all of this, but we can still figure out how to build functional > systems. Good job Bike Farm! > > ~cyclista Nicholas > > > On 2020-10-20 01:24, momoko saunders wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > I'd love to get a quick update on what shops are doing for shop > > operations during covid. There was an awesome virtual workshop put on a > > few > > months ago. What are shops up to now? > > > > At Bike Farm, we're still far from being open in our usual way. We have > > a > > parts selling shift for one day of the week. We meet people outside and > > get > > a list of items they want to purchase, then volunteers rummage around > > and > > find the parts and bring them out for the patron to choose from. We do > > not > > allow use of tools which is really hard but most people understand. We > > do > > have a selection of tools which we have available for sale for real > > cheap. > > This includes random loose allen wrenches, other wrenches, multi tools. > > Here are the guidelines for this shift > > < > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xu3qCapSPopoQ7VbiqyG1VJdroA6WiJwBSPleTN… > > > > . > > > > We also have a shift where volunteers work on bikes in the shop for > > sale or > > for our community partnerships. We limit all volunteer groups to 5 > > people > > at a time, and we try to keep people in germ bubbles so that if someone > > does get sick, we've limited the exposure. Everyone wears masks at all > > times and keeps distant. > > > > We have a 3rd night which we just added called our infrastructure > > night. On > > this night we work on cleaning the shop and making it more functional. > > > > We have a document outlining > > < > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EthWNOhjeo4sOQZobhrvykb_gTB4aGRKeMdiL0T… > > > > our covid protocols. I've made a copy of it for the thinktank to view. > > Everyone in the shop must read and agree to these guidelines before > > being > > able to volunteer. > > > > --- > > > > With a vaccine looking like it will not be here and widely available > > till > > summer or even fall of 2021, we're looking for more creative ways to > > provide resources to the community, stay safe, and maybe make some > > money to > > pay rent. I'd love to hear if others have come up with creative ways to > > continue operations during this time. > > > > Hope you all are well, > > -Momoko > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: wormsign(a)gmail.com > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 08:02:43 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Shop Operations During Covid > Hey Momoko > BRW is open for curbside sales 3 days a week. We allow a max of 4 > volunteers inside at a time. We have one day a week that is building bikes > and cleaning shop. > Bike sales have skyrocketed and if it keeps pace it will keep our lights > on through this. > > The bicycle kitchen has a huge outdoor space and has been allowing patrons > to wrench by appointment if they follow the protocol. They figure that when > masked and keeping distance the transfer risk outdoors is much smaller. > I was considering looking into how tool lending libraries function to see > if we could offer a similar service so patrons can put on the parts they > purchase. > > Loconte > > On Oct 19, 2020, at 19:21, barts(a)drcrankys.com.au wrote: > > > > At Dr Cranky’s we usually support Bicycle Hospitals run by parent > volunteers at schools. > > We can’t do that in Victoria, Australia so have tried shifting to > remote/contactless operations. > > We’ve managed to recycle over 50 bikes during CoVid and log the results > online without any contact. > > We send basic tool kits and parts to volunteers to use in their homes. > > > > See > https://www.drcrankys.com.au/uploads/8/6/0/2/86023530/remote_operations_und… > > > > > > > > Bart Sbeghen > > Founder/CEO, Dr Cranky’s > > M 0418 231 686 > > > > <image001.jpg> > > www.drcrankys.com.au > > > > *From:* Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> *On > Behalf Of *momoko saunders > *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 October 2020 12:24 PM > *To:* The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > *Subject:* [TheThinkTank] Shop Operations During Covid > > > > Hey all, > > > > I'd love to get a quick update on what shops are doing for shop > operations during covid. There was an awesome virtual workshop put on a few > months ago. What are shops up to now? > > > > At Bike Farm, we're still far from being open in our usual way. We have a > parts selling shift for one day of the week. We meet people outside and get > a list of items they want to purchase, then volunteers rummage around and > find the parts and bring them out for the patron to choose from. We do not > allow use of tools which is really hard but most people understand. We do > have a selection of tools which we have available for sale for real cheap. > This includes random loose allen wrenches, other wrenches, multi tools. > Here are the guidelines for this shift > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xu3qCapSPopoQ7VbiqyG1VJdroA6WiJwBSPleTN…> > . > > > > We also have a shift where volunteers work on bikes in the shop for sale > or for our community partnerships. We limit all volunteer groups to 5 > people at a time, and we try to keep people in germ bubbles so that if > someone does get sick, we've limited the exposure. Everyone wears masks at > all times and keeps distant. > > > > We have a 3rd night which we just added called our infrastructure night. > On this night we work on cleaning the shop and making it more functional. > > > > We have a document outlining > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EthWNOhjeo4sOQZobhrvykb_gTB4aGRKeMdiL0T…> > our covid protocols. I've made a copy of it for the thinktank to view. > Everyone in the shop must read and agree to these guidelines before being > able to volunteer. > > > > --- > > > > With a vaccine looking like it will not be here and widely available till > summer or even fall of 2021, we're looking for more creative ways to > provide resources to the community, stay safe, and maybe make some money to > pay rent. I'd love to hear if others have come up with creative ways to > continue operations during this time. > > > > Hope you all are well, > > -Momoko > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 169, Issue 7
by Adam / Phoenix Mitchell 15 Oct '20

15 Oct '20

We use Calendly and send the data to Airtable using Zapier so we can have records of everything. That setup may be a bit more complicated than what you need though. This article will explain and help you set it up, if you're interested: https://medium.com/entrepreneurship-technology-blog/manage-your-clients-wit… Calendly on its own is very helpful and they have a free option. Phoenix Freeride Montpelier On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 4:04 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 169, Issue 4 (Tegan Moss [B!KE]) > 2. Staff + volunteers management (peter(a)BikeClarkCounty.org) > 3. Re: Staff + volunteers management (Yellow Bike Project) > 4. Re: Staff + volunteers management (Audrey Wiedemeier) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Tegan Moss [B!KE]" <director(a)communitybikeshop.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:11:32 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 169, Issue 4 > We do not use waivers--our insurance company does not pressure us to > because they do not stand up in court. Personally, I also feel they are > quite problematic because they make people believe they do not have rights > when they actually do. It is the legal equivalent of gas lighting. Here in > Canada we are a lot less litigious than folks in the US so I think its also > seen as less of an issue. > > We do have Directors and Officers insurance. Its pretty affordable for the > protections it offers. > > Our insurance for liability and D&O is around $2,500 annually. > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 4:03 PM < > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > >> Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to >> thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair Services (Ron G) >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Ron G <pedalmore(a)gmail.com> >> To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 14:49:48 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair >> Services >> Howdy-- >> >> (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I'll gladly take corrections from any >> sharper legal minds. Kevin Dwyer?) >> >> We are a DIY shop, and we have insurance. Our insurance does cover >> repairs, which is appropriate since our DIY comes with assistance, which >> often looks like doing repairs. I think insurance is important for any >> organization offering to help with bikes. One loose quick release could >> lead to big expenses. >> >> It's tempting to believe that since our organizations tend to have >> limited assets we're immune to lawsuits, that there's just nothing there to >> sue for. The problem is lawsuits will find other targets, like staff or >> volunteers with money or property. If they're lucky they'll be covered by >> homeowner's or other insurance, but not necessarily. So you could be >> opening your staff, board, or volunteers to liability. >> >> We'd also like to think that our friends and guests aren't the suing >> types. But people don't sue because they're jerks (okay, some do), but >> because they're desperate. They sue because our health care system sucks, >> and they'll be bankrupted by bills, >> >> And it's not hard to demonstrate in court that we are trusted resources >> who should know better than allow someone to install their own front wheel >> without making sure they understand how to use that quick release, the part >> responsible for more lawsuits than any other component. >> >> On this topic, I'm wondering a couple of things. We have a ponderous >> waiver for people to fill out, and I'd like to trim it down. >> >> Do most community shops use waivers, and is there any template? >> >> And, maybe more to the point, have any of you ever been sued, and, if so, >> did a waiver help at all? >> >> Happy Trails, >> Ron Georg >> Shop Czar >> Corvallis Bicycle Collective >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >> > > > -- > Executive Director > B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop > 293 George St, Peterborough ON > (705) 775-7227 > communitybikeshop.org > she/her > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "peter(a)BikeClarkCounty.org" <peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:49:19 -0700 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Staff + volunteers management > Anyone out there have a good program (online) for managing staff + > volunteer sign up for slots. > > We’re trying to stager as we add limited volunteers back to our schedule > and google docs isn’t cutting it. > > Thanks, in advance! > > Pedal on… Peter. > > > Peter Van Tilburg > Executive Director, Board VP > Bike Clark County > > Community Bike Shop: > 1604 Main St., Vancouver, WA. 98660 > Wed-Sat 11am-6pm, Sunday 11am-4pm > > c. 503.572.9894 > peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org > *http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg>* > http://www.bikeclarkcounty.org/ > www.bikeclarkcounty.org > *Bike Clark County is equipping, empowering, and connecting youth to our > community.* > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Yellow Bike Project <austinyellowbike(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 19:35:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Staff + volunteers management > Peter, At AustinYellowBike we use YouCanBookMe to book staff and > volunteers in specific time slots with capacity limits. > > > Take care, be safe, > Robert Wong > Volunteer > > Yellow Bike Project | www.austinyellowbike.org > 1216 Webberville Rd Austin, TX 78721| 512-524-5299 > Schedule Available Online <https://austinyellowbike.org/> > "Be the change you would like to see in the world." - Gandhi > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 6:50 PM peter(a)BikeClarkCounty.org < > peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org> wrote: > >> Anyone out there have a good program (online) for managing staff + >> volunteer sign up for slots. >> >> We’re trying to stager as we add limited volunteers back to our schedule >> and google docs isn’t cutting it. >> >> Thanks, in advance! >> >> Pedal on… Peter. >> >> >> Peter Van Tilburg >> Executive Director, Board VP >> Bike Clark County >> >> Community Bike Shop: >> 1604 Main St., Vancouver, WA. 98660 >> Wed-Sat 11am-6pm, Sunday 11am-4pm >> >> c. 503.572.9894 >> peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org >> *http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg>* >> http://www.bikeclarkcounty.org/ >> www.bikeclarkcounty.org >> *Bike Clark County is equipping, empowering, and connecting youth to our >> community.* >> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Audrey Wiedemeier <audrey(a)bikelibrary.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:34:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Staff + volunteers management > Roberts option looks like a really good low or no cost option. We use > Volgistics here at the Bike Library and I think we pay $17/mo with the > option to have folks sign-in on a touch pad with a four digit code when > they walk in the building. Even if folks are signed up to volunteer, we ask > them to sign in and out for every shift. I am happy with Volgistics and all > its capabilities, but it took us a while to learn. > > > Peace & grease, > > *Audrey Wiedemeier* (She/her/hers) > Iowa City Bike Library, Director > > 700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City > *COVID Hours: *Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM > Need something? Set up an appointment by email. > Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you! > > BikeLibrary.org > C: (515) 450-1651 > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 7:35 PM Yellow Bike Project < > austinyellowbike(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Peter, At AustinYellowBike we use YouCanBookMe to book staff and >> volunteers in specific time slots with capacity limits. >> >> >> Take care, be safe, >> Robert Wong >> Volunteer >> >> Yellow Bike Project | www.austinyellowbike.org >> 1216 Webberville Rd Austin, TX 78721| 512-524-5299 >> Schedule Available Online <https://austinyellowbike.org/> >> "Be the change you would like to see in the world." - Gandhi >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 6:50 PM peter(a)BikeClarkCounty.org < >> peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org> wrote: >> >>> Anyone out there have a good program (online) for managing staff + >>> volunteer sign up for slots. >>> >>> We’re trying to stager as we add limited volunteers back to our schedule >>> and google docs isn’t cutting it. >>> >>> Thanks, in advance! >>> >>> Pedal on… Peter. >>> >>> >>> Peter Van Tilburg >>> Executive Director, Board VP >>> Bike Clark County >>> >>> Community Bike Shop: >>> 1604 Main St., Vancouver, WA. 98660 >>> Wed-Sat 11am-6pm, Sunday 11am-4pm >>> >>> c. 503.572.9894 >>> peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org >>> *http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg>* >>> http://www.bikeclarkcounty.org/ >>> www.bikeclarkcounty.org >>> *Bike Clark County is equipping, empowering, and connecting youth to our >>> community.* >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >>> >>> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 169, Issue 7
by Tegan Moss [B!KE] 14 Oct '20

14 Oct '20

We are using signup.com for volunteer scheduling and for shop use scheduling for the public. Its free and working very well for us. On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 4:04 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 169, Issue 4 (Tegan Moss [B!KE]) > 2. Staff + volunteers management (peter(a)BikeClarkCounty.org) > 3. Re: Staff + volunteers management (Yellow Bike Project) > 4. Re: Staff + volunteers management (Audrey Wiedemeier) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Tegan Moss [B!KE]" <director(a)communitybikeshop.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:11:32 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 169, Issue 4 > We do not use waivers--our insurance company does not pressure us to > because they do not stand up in court. Personally, I also feel they are > quite problematic because they make people believe they do not have rights > when they actually do. It is the legal equivalent of gas lighting. Here in > Canada we are a lot less litigious than folks in the US so I think its also > seen as less of an issue. > > We do have Directors and Officers insurance. Its pretty affordable for the > protections it offers. > > Our insurance for liability and D&O is around $2,500 annually. > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 4:03 PM < > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > >> Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to >> thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair Services (Ron G) >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Ron G <pedalmore(a)gmail.com> >> To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 14:49:48 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair >> Services >> Howdy-- >> >> (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I'll gladly take corrections from any >> sharper legal minds. Kevin Dwyer?) >> >> We are a DIY shop, and we have insurance. Our insurance does cover >> repairs, which is appropriate since our DIY comes with assistance, which >> often looks like doing repairs. I think insurance is important for any >> organization offering to help with bikes. One loose quick release could >> lead to big expenses. >> >> It's tempting to believe that since our organizations tend to have >> limited assets we're immune to lawsuits, that there's just nothing there to >> sue for. The problem is lawsuits will find other targets, like staff or >> volunteers with money or property. If they're lucky they'll be covered by >> homeowner's or other insurance, but not necessarily. So you could be >> opening your staff, board, or volunteers to liability. >> >> We'd also like to think that our friends and guests aren't the suing >> types. But people don't sue because they're jerks (okay, some do), but >> because they're desperate. They sue because our health care system sucks, >> and they'll be bankrupted by bills, >> >> And it's not hard to demonstrate in court that we are trusted resources >> who should know better than allow someone to install their own front wheel >> without making sure they understand how to use that quick release, the part >> responsible for more lawsuits than any other component. >> >> On this topic, I'm wondering a couple of things. We have a ponderous >> waiver for people to fill out, and I'd like to trim it down. >> >> Do most community shops use waivers, and is there any template? >> >> And, maybe more to the point, have any of you ever been sued, and, if so, >> did a waiver help at all? >> >> Happy Trails, >> Ron Georg >> Shop Czar >> Corvallis Bicycle Collective >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >> > > > -- > Executive Director > B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop > 293 George St, Peterborough ON > (705) 775-7227 > communitybikeshop.org > she/her > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "peter(a)BikeClarkCounty.org" <peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:49:19 -0700 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Staff + volunteers management > Anyone out there have a good program (online) for managing staff + > volunteer sign up for slots. > > We’re trying to stager as we add limited volunteers back to our schedule > and google docs isn’t cutting it. > > Thanks, in advance! > > Pedal on… Peter. > > > Peter Van Tilburg > Executive Director, Board VP > Bike Clark County > > Community Bike Shop: > 1604 Main St., Vancouver, WA. 98660 > Wed-Sat 11am-6pm, Sunday 11am-4pm > > c. 503.572.9894 > peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org > *http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg>* > http://www.bikeclarkcounty.org/ > www.bikeclarkcounty.org > *Bike Clark County is equipping, empowering, and connecting youth to our > community.* > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Yellow Bike Project <austinyellowbike(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 19:35:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Staff + volunteers management > Peter, At AustinYellowBike we use YouCanBookMe to book staff and > volunteers in specific time slots with capacity limits. > > > Take care, be safe, > Robert Wong > Volunteer > > Yellow Bike Project | www.austinyellowbike.org > 1216 Webberville Rd Austin, TX 78721| 512-524-5299 > Schedule Available Online <https://austinyellowbike.org/> > "Be the change you would like to see in the world." - Gandhi > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 6:50 PM peter(a)BikeClarkCounty.org < > peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org> wrote: > >> Anyone out there have a good program (online) for managing staff + >> volunteer sign up for slots. >> >> We’re trying to stager as we add limited volunteers back to our schedule >> and google docs isn’t cutting it. >> >> Thanks, in advance! >> >> Pedal on… Peter. >> >> >> Peter Van Tilburg >> Executive Director, Board VP >> Bike Clark County >> >> Community Bike Shop: >> 1604 Main St., Vancouver, WA. 98660 >> Wed-Sat 11am-6pm, Sunday 11am-4pm >> >> c. 503.572.9894 >> peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org >> *http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg>* >> http://www.bikeclarkcounty.org/ >> www.bikeclarkcounty.org >> *Bike Clark County is equipping, empowering, and connecting youth to our >> community.* >> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Audrey Wiedemeier <audrey(a)bikelibrary.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:34:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Staff + volunteers management > Roberts option looks like a really good low or no cost option. We use > Volgistics here at the Bike Library and I think we pay $17/mo with the > option to have folks sign-in on a touch pad with a four digit code when > they walk in the building. Even if folks are signed up to volunteer, we ask > them to sign in and out for every shift. I am happy with Volgistics and all > its capabilities, but it took us a while to learn. > > > Peace & grease, > > *Audrey Wiedemeier* (She/her/hers) > Iowa City Bike Library, Director > > 700 S. Dubuque St, Iowa City > *COVID Hours: *Tues. - Thurs. 10 AM - 5 PM; Sat. 10 - 3 PM > Need something? Set up an appointment by email. > Want to donate? Drop off anytime during these hours. Thank you! > > BikeLibrary.org > C: (515) 450-1651 > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 7:35 PM Yellow Bike Project < > austinyellowbike(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Peter, At AustinYellowBike we use YouCanBookMe to book staff and >> volunteers in specific time slots with capacity limits. >> >> >> Take care, be safe, >> Robert Wong >> Volunteer >> >> Yellow Bike Project | www.austinyellowbike.org >> 1216 Webberville Rd Austin, TX 78721| 512-524-5299 >> Schedule Available Online <https://austinyellowbike.org/> >> "Be the change you would like to see in the world." - Gandhi >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 6:50 PM peter(a)BikeClarkCounty.org < >> peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org> wrote: >> >>> Anyone out there have a good program (online) for managing staff + >>> volunteer sign up for slots. >>> >>> We’re trying to stager as we add limited volunteers back to our schedule >>> and google docs isn’t cutting it. >>> >>> Thanks, in advance! >>> >>> Pedal on… Peter. >>> >>> >>> Peter Van Tilburg >>> Executive Director, Board VP >>> Bike Clark County >>> >>> Community Bike Shop: >>> 1604 Main St., Vancouver, WA. 98660 >>> Wed-Sat 11am-6pm, Sunday 11am-4pm >>> >>> c. 503.572.9894 >>> peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org >>> *http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg>* >>> http://www.bikeclarkcounty.org/ >>> www.bikeclarkcounty.org >>> *Bike Clark County is equipping, empowering, and connecting youth to our >>> community.* >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >>> >>> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > -- Executive Director B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 293 George St, Peterborough ON (705) 775-7227 communitybikeshop.org she/her

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Staff + volunteers management
by peter＠BikeClarkCounty.org 14 Oct '20

14 Oct '20

Anyone out there have a good program (online) for managing staff + volunteer sign up for slots. We’re trying to stager as we add limited volunteers back to our schedule and google docs isn’t cutting it. Thanks, in advance! Pedal on… Peter. Peter Van Tilburg Executive Director, Board VP Bike Clark County Community Bike Shop: 1604 Main St., Vancouver, WA. 98660 Wed-Sat 11am-6pm, Sunday 11am-4pm c. 503.572.9894 peter(a)bikeclarkcounty.org http://www.linkedin.com/in/petervantilburg http://www.bikeclarkcounty.org/ <http://www.bikeclarkcounty.org/> www.bikeclarkcounty.org Bike Clark County is equipping, empowering, and connecting youth to our community.

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 169, Issue 4
by Tegan Moss [B!KE] 13 Oct '20

13 Oct '20

We do not use waivers--our insurance company does not pressure us to because they do not stand up in court. Personally, I also feel they are quite problematic because they make people believe they do not have rights when they actually do. It is the legal equivalent of gas lighting. Here in Canada we are a lot less litigious than folks in the US so I think its also seen as less of an issue. We do have Directors and Officers insurance. Its pretty affordable for the protections it offers. Our insurance for liability and D&O is around $2,500 annually. On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 4:03 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair Services (Ron G) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ron G <pedalmore(a)gmail.com> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 14:49:48 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair > Services > Howdy-- > > (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I'll gladly take corrections from any > sharper legal minds. Kevin Dwyer?) > > We are a DIY shop, and we have insurance. Our insurance does cover > repairs, which is appropriate since our DIY comes with assistance, which > often looks like doing repairs. I think insurance is important for any > organization offering to help with bikes. One loose quick release could > lead to big expenses. > > It's tempting to believe that since our organizations tend to have limited > assets we're immune to lawsuits, that there's just nothing there to sue > for. The problem is lawsuits will find other targets, like staff or > volunteers with money or property. If they're lucky they'll be covered by > homeowner's or other insurance, but not necessarily. So you could be > opening your staff, board, or volunteers to liability. > > We'd also like to think that our friends and guests aren't the suing > types. But people don't sue because they're jerks (okay, some do), but > because they're desperate. They sue because our health care system sucks, > and they'll be bankrupted by bills, > > And it's not hard to demonstrate in court that we are trusted resources > who should know better than allow someone to install their own front wheel > without making sure they understand how to use that quick release, the part > responsible for more lawsuits than any other component. > > On this topic, I'm wondering a couple of things. We have a ponderous > waiver for people to fill out, and I'd like to trim it down. > > Do most community shops use waivers, and is there any template? > > And, maybe more to the point, have any of you ever been sued, and, if so, > did a waiver help at all? > > Happy Trails, > Ron Georg > Shop Czar > Corvallis Bicycle Collective > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > -- Executive Director B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 293 George St, Peterborough ON (705) 775-7227 communitybikeshop.org she/her

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 169, Issue 5
by Adam / Phoenix Mitchell 12 Oct '20

12 Oct '20

Two questions for y'all along the insurance thread: How did you determine that your insurance *does* indeed cover DIY repairs? Seems like a lot of legalese in our General Liability Insurance that is pretty incomprehensible. Also, for those with a Board, do you have Directors & Officers Insurance? I'd be interested to see more waivers... Cheers! Phoenix Freeride Montpelier On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 12:22 AM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Insurance and Waivers (Nicole Muratore) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nicole Muratore <nicole(a)bikesaviours.org> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 12:42:40 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Insurance and Waivers > When our shop suspended DIY repair to patrons as a result of the > lockdowns, I checked to see that our insurance covered not only DIY repairs > but also staff-made repairs and it does. Our liability has never been > challenged, though I wouldn't mind paring down our waiver, too. I've > attached ours and am interested in seeing others. > > Cheers, > *Nicole Muratore, Shop Manager* > Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective > (602) 429-9369 | bikesaviours.org | @bikesaviours > > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 1:03 PM < > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > >> Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to >> thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair Services (Ron G) >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Ron G <pedalmore(a)gmail.com> >> To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 14:49:48 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair >> Services >> Howdy-- >> >> (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I'll gladly take corrections from any >> sharper legal minds. Kevin Dwyer?) >> >> We are a DIY shop, and we have insurance. Our insurance does cover >> repairs, which is appropriate since our DIY comes with assistance, which >> often looks like doing repairs. I think insurance is important for any >> organization offering to help with bikes. One loose quick release could >> lead to big expenses. >> >> It's tempting to believe that since our organizations tend to have >> limited assets we're immune to lawsuits, that there's just nothing there to >> sue for. The problem is lawsuits will find other targets, like staff or >> volunteers with money or property. If they're lucky they'll be covered by >> homeowner's or other insurance, but not necessarily. So you could be >> opening your staff, board, or volunteers to liability. >> >> We'd also like to think that our friends and guests aren't the suing >> types. But people don't sue because they're jerks (okay, some do), but >> because they're desperate. They sue because our health care system sucks, >> and they'll be bankrupted by bills, >> >> And it's not hard to demonstrate in court that we are trusted resources >> who should know better than allow someone to install their own front wheel >> without making sure they understand how to use that quick release, the part >> responsible for more lawsuits than any other component. >> >> On this topic, I'm wondering a couple of things. We have a ponderous >> waiver for people to fill out, and I'd like to trim it down. >> >> Do most community shops use waivers, and is there any template? >> >> And, maybe more to the point, have any of you ever been sued, and, if so, >> did a waiver help at all? >> >> Happy Trails, >> Ron Georg >> Shop Czar >> Corvallis Bicycle Collective >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >> > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Insurance and Waivers
by Nicole Muratore 11 Oct '20

11 Oct '20

When our shop suspended DIY repair to patrons as a result of the lockdowns, I checked to see that our insurance covered not only DIY repairs but also staff-made repairs and it does. Our liability has never been challenged, though I wouldn't mind paring down our waiver, too. I've attached ours and am interested in seeing others. Cheers, *Nicole Muratore, Shop Manager* Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective (602) 429-9369 | bikesaviours.org | @bikesaviours On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 1:03 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair Services (Ron G) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ron G <pedalmore(a)gmail.com> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 14:49:48 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair > Services > Howdy-- > > (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I'll gladly take corrections from any > sharper legal minds. Kevin Dwyer?) > > We are a DIY shop, and we have insurance. Our insurance does cover > repairs, which is appropriate since our DIY comes with assistance, which > often looks like doing repairs. I think insurance is important for any > organization offering to help with bikes. One loose quick release could > lead to big expenses. > > It's tempting to believe that since our organizations tend to have limited > assets we're immune to lawsuits, that there's just nothing there to sue > for. The problem is lawsuits will find other targets, like staff or > volunteers with money or property. If they're lucky they'll be covered by > homeowner's or other insurance, but not necessarily. So you could be > opening your staff, board, or volunteers to liability. > > We'd also like to think that our friends and guests aren't the suing > types. But people don't sue because they're jerks (okay, some do), but > because they're desperate. They sue because our health care system sucks, > and they'll be bankrupted by bills, > > And it's not hard to demonstrate in court that we are trusted resources > who should know better than allow someone to install their own front wheel > without making sure they understand how to use that quick release, the part > responsible for more lawsuits than any other component. > > On this topic, I'm wondering a couple of things. We have a ponderous > waiver for people to fill out, and I'd like to trim it down. > > Do most community shops use waivers, and is there any template? > > And, maybe more to the point, have any of you ever been sued, and, if so, > did a waiver help at all? > > Happy Trails, > Ron Georg > Shop Czar > Corvallis Bicycle Collective > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair Services
by Ron G 09 Oct '20

09 Oct '20

Howdy-- (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I'll gladly take corrections from any sharper legal minds. Kevin Dwyer?) We are a DIY shop, and we have insurance. Our insurance does cover repairs, which is appropriate since our DIY comes with assistance, which often looks like doing repairs. I think insurance is important for any organization offering to help with bikes. One loose quick release could lead to big expenses. It's tempting to believe that since our organizations tend to have limited assets we're immune to lawsuits, that there's just nothing there to sue for. The problem is lawsuits will find other targets, like staff or volunteers with money or property. If they're lucky they'll be covered by homeowner's or other insurance, but not necessarily. So you could be opening your staff, board, or volunteers to liability. We'd also like to think that our friends and guests aren't the suing types. But people don't sue because they're jerks (okay, some do), but because they're desperate. They sue because our health care system sucks, and they'll be bankrupted by bills, And it's not hard to demonstrate in court that we are trusted resources who should know better than allow someone to install their own front wheel without making sure they understand how to use that quick release, the part responsible for more lawsuits than any other component. On this topic, I'm wondering a couple of things. We have a ponderous waiver for people to fill out, and I'd like to trim it down. Do most community shops use waivers, and is there any template? And, maybe more to the point, have any of you ever been sued, and, if so, did a waiver help at all? Happy Trails, Ron Georg Shop Czar Corvallis Bicycle Collective

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 169, Issue 2
by Lawrence Mohammed 08 Oct '20

08 Oct '20

Hi Aaron, not sure what it's like Stateside, but in the UK, I'm pretty sure insurance is essential even if just recommending repairs and alterations to people working on their own bikes, not just providing these yourselves. There are ways to get around insurance but it's usually frowned upon from what I gather. Whilst many insurers here can offer coverage, a few (such as Butterworth Spengler) specialise in cycling and can thus provide comprehensive quotes, are familiar with risks and if anything does go wrong, they're probably better placed to support. We offer popup-servicing to local corporate clients as well as training and servicing in our workshop within a gift economy (essentially on a 'pay what you can' basis) and we need a minimum of £5Million Public Liability and Products insurance for this. I hand built our premises, turning a shipping container into a solar powered, insulated timber framed workshop and due to this, I think we pay a bit more (it's pretty odd and anything odd = uncertainty = risk = ££ / $$ it seems). Also, because it's in a high risk area. We have very comprehensive Risk Assessments, Method Statements and loads of policies - but this doesn't seem to have dropped out insurance premium...useful though ;) Not sure whether this info is helpful but do message me if I can be of assistance. Happy to share anything that may be useful and wishing you and the collective all the very best in these challenging times! In service, *Lawrence Mohammed* CEO and Founder Pro Bike Service C.I.C. *+44 (0)77 222 58587* *probikeservice.co.uk <https://probikeservice.co.uk>* /::Olympic Park Site:: Pro Bike Service C.I.C. Multi-Storey Car Park, Lesney Avenue Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park London E20 3BS *map location <https://what3words.com/upset.habit.funds>* / On 08/10/2020 21:03, thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair Services (Aaron Shaw) > 2. Re: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 165, Issue 5 > (Adam / Phoenix Mitchell) > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Insurance for Collectives Offering Repair Services
by Aaron Shaw 08 Oct '20

08 Oct '20

Hey Bike-tankers, Many collectives seem to be offering repair services during Covid-times to help keep the lights on. Some non-profit shops have been offering repair services <https://freewheelbikes.org/service-and-repair/> for a while. There has been some mention of repair liability insurance and I would like to know more. Our shop is considering offering repair services, and I am wondering...Is it a good idea? Do we need insurance? Where can we find insurance? How much does it cost? Those types of things... Thanks in advance! Aaron

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 165, Issue 5
by Adam / Phoenix Mitchell 08 Oct '20

08 Oct '20

Hey all, I've got a question about the hanging of bikes on the rail. Did you use box rail hangers or some other unique setup? All I can see are big washers and a hook. Thanks! Freeride Montpelier On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 4:11 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Bike Storage Optimization (Wade Rubinstein) > 2. Re: Bike Storage Optimization (Daniel Byrd) > 3. Re: Bike Storage Optimization (Wade Rubinstein) > 4. Re: Bike Storage Optimization (BikeConcord) > 5. Re: Bike Storage Optimization (Cyclista Nicholas) > 6. Re: Bike Storage Optimization (BikeConcord) > 7. Re: Bike Storage Optimization (BikeConcord) > 8. Re: Bike Storage Optimization (Peaches) > 9. thanks y'all (Angel York) > 10. Re: Online Collaborative Workshop on Safe & Effective Shop > Operations (Amanda Chilson) > 11. Is TheThinkTank searchable? (Thomas Butler) > 12. Is TheThinkTank searchable? (cyclista(a)inventati.org) > 13. Re: Is TheThinkTank searchable? (Godwin !) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 16:13:31 -0400 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Bike Storage Optimization > Hi. I am a member of The Bike Connector, an earn-a-bike and bike > collective program in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. We recently gained > access to container (12m L x 2.3m W x 2.26m H; 40' L x 7.6' W x 7.4' H) to > help manage our inventory of bikes and parts. I want to maximize the > capacity of the container, while allowing for easy access to the bikes. > I'm sure others have solved this optimization problem. > > Any suggestions for how to organize this space? > [image: Bike Connector Dumpster Day Empty Container Almost 6-4-20.jpg] > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Daniel Byrd <daniel(a)kidsonbikes.net> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 14:17:20 -0600 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Storage Optimization > Hello! > > We have 14 of these containers for our programs and we have found a way to > maximize space for very cheap. > Www.kidsonbikes.net and go to "what we do" tab, then a video on bike > Library. > I can send you photos of exactly how to set stuff up too- talking briefly > will probably help too > Very exciting! > > Daniel Byrd > Executive Director of Kids on Bikes > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 2:13 PM Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> > wrote: > >> Hi. I am a member of The Bike Connector, an earn-a-bike and bike >> collective program in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. We recently gained >> access to container (12m L x 2.3m W x 2.26m H; 40' L x 7.6' W x 7.4' H) to >> help manage our inventory of bikes and parts. I want to maximize the >> capacity of the container, while allowing for easy access to the bikes. >> I'm sure others have solved this optimization problem. >> >> Any suggestions for how to organize this space? >> [image: Bike Connector Dumpster Day Empty Container Almost 6-4-20.jpg] >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 16:48:40 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Storage Optimization > Daniel, > > This is amazing! What a great service you provide to the community. > Currently, our workshop is located in a school, which is closed due to the > coronavirus. My hope was to move the workshop and storage into > the container. I played the video. It was a nice overview. Do you have > images of the inside layout? > > > > Wade > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 4:17 PM Daniel Byrd <daniel(a)kidsonbikes.net> wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> We have 14 of these containers for our programs and we have found a way >> to maximize space for very cheap. >> Www.kidsonbikes.net and go to "what we do" tab, then a video on bike >> Library. >> I can send you photos of exactly how to set stuff up too- talking briefly >> will probably help too >> Very exciting! >> >> Daniel Byrd >> Executive Director of Kids on Bikes >> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 2:13 PM Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi. I am a member of The Bike Connector, an earn-a-bike and bike >>> collective program in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. We recently gained >>> access to container (12m L x 2.3m W x 2.26m H; 40' L x 7.6' W x 7.4' H) to >>> help manage our inventory of bikes and parts. I want to maximize the >>> capacity of the container, while allowing for easy access to the bikes. >>> I'm sure others have solved this optimization problem. >>> >>> Any suggestions for how to organize this space? >>> [image: Bike Connector Dumpster Day Empty Container Almost 6-4-20.jpg] >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >>> >>> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: BikeConcord <Smitty(a)bikeconcord.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 16:23:13 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Storage Optimization > The key is good insulation. Which you can’t see in this photo. > > > On Jun 7, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> > wrote: > > > Daniel, > > This is amazing! What a great service you provide to the community. > Currently, our workshop is located in a school, which is closed due to the > coronavirus. My hope was to move the workshop and storage into > the container. I played the video. It was a nice overview. Do you have > images of the inside layout? > > > > Wade > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 4:17 PM Daniel Byrd <daniel(a)kidsonbikes.net> wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> We have 14 of these containers for our programs and we have found a way >> to maximize space for very cheap. >> Www.kidsonbikes.net and go to "what we do" tab, then a video on bike >> Library. >> I can send you photos of exactly how to set stuff up too- talking briefly >> will probably help too >> Very exciting! >> >> Daniel Byrd >> Executive Director of Kids on Bikes >> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 2:13 PM Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi. I am a member of The Bike Connector, an earn-a-bike and bike >>> collective program in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. We recently gained >>> access to container (12m L x 2.3m W x 2.26m H; 40' L x 7.6' W x 7.4' H) to >>> help manage our inventory of bikes and parts. I want to maximize the >>> capacity of the container, while allowing for easy access to the bikes. >>> I'm sure others have solved this optimization problem. >>> >>> Any suggestions for how to organize this space? >>> <Bike Connector Dumpster Day Empty Container Almost 6-4-20.jpg> >>> >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >>> >>> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 02:33:26 +0000 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Storage Optimization > Here's some not-great images of the way we maximize storage for bikes. > Basically, vertically, using a hook on the wall for the front wheel. It > helps to have some kind of cradles for the wheels/tires to fit into, but > you don't have to. > > It's best to stagger them (as in the outdoor picture), one up, the next > down, the next up, and so on. The spacing is about 11" vertically > between the lower bike and the higher one, and 12" horizontally, bike to > bike. This spacing and staggering should give enough room for the > handlebars not to tangle too much and the cranks not to either. > > ~cyclista Nicholas > > > On 2020-06-07 23:23, BikeConcord wrote: > > The key is good insulation. Which you can’t see in this photo. > > > > > > > >> On Jun 7, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Daniel, > >> > >> This is amazing! What a great service you provide to the community. > >> Currently, our workshop is located in a school, which is closed due to > >> the coronavirus. My hope was to move the workshop and storage into > >> the container. I played the video. It was a nice overview. Do you > >> have images of the inside layout? > >> > >> > >> > >> Wade > >> > >>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 4:17 PM Daniel Byrd <daniel(a)kidsonbikes.net> > >>> wrote: > >>> Hello! > >>> > >>> We have 14 of these containers for our programs and we have found a > >>> way to maximize space for very cheap. > >>> Www.kidsonbikes.net and go to "what we do" tab, then a video on bike > >>> Library. > >>> I can send you photos of exactly how to set stuff up too- talking > >>> briefly will probably help too > >>> Very exciting! > >>> > >>> Daniel Byrd > >>> Executive Director of Kids on Bikes > >>> > >>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 2:13 PM Wade Rubinstein > >>>> <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> wrote: > >>>> Hi. I am a member of The Bike Connector, an earn-a-bike and bike > >>>> collective program in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. We recently > >>>> gained access to container (12m L x 2.3m W x 2.26m H; 40' L x 7.6' W > >>>> x 7.4' H) to help manage our inventory of bikes and parts. I want > >>>> to maximize the capacity of the container, while allowing for easy > >>>> access to the bikes. I'm sure others have solved this optimization > >>>> problem. > >>>> > >>>> Any suggestions for how to organize this space? > >>>> <Bike Connector Dumpster Day Empty Container Almost 6-4-20.jpg> > >>>> > >>>> ____________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>>> > >>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >>>> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >>>> > >>> ____________________________________ > >>> > >>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>> > >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >>> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >>> > >> ____________________________________ > >> > >> The ThinkTank mailing List > >> > >> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >> > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: BikeConcord <Smitty(a)bikeconcord.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 22:19:51 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Storage Optimization > Here is how we hang them in our storage container. Remove pedals and turn > handle bars. > > > > > On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > wrote: > > > > Here's some not-great images of the way we maximize storage for bikes. > Basically, vertically, using a hook on the wall for the front wheel. It > helps to have some kind of cradles for the wheels/tires to fit into, but > you don't have to. > > > > It's best to stagger them (as in the outdoor picture), one up, the next > down, the next up, and so on. The spacing is about 11" vertically between > the lower bike and the higher one, and 12" horizontally, bike to bike. This > spacing and staggering should give enough room for the handlebars not to > tangle too much and the cranks not to either. > > > > ~cyclista Nicholas > > > > > >> On 2020-06-07 23:23, BikeConcord wrote: > >> The key is good insulation. Which you can’t see in this photo. > >>>> On Jun 7, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Daniel, > >>> This is amazing! What a great service you provide to the community. > Currently, our workshop is located in a school, which is closed due to the > coronavirus. My hope was to move the workshop and storage into the > container. I played the video. It was a nice overview. Do you have > images of the inside layout? > >>> Wade > >>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 4:17 PM Daniel Byrd <daniel(a)kidsonbikes.net> > wrote: > >>>> Hello! > >>>> We have 14 of these containers for our programs and we have found a > way to maximize space for very cheap. > >>>> Www.kidsonbikes.net and go to "what we do" tab, then a video on bike > Library. > >>>> I can send you photos of exactly how to set stuff up too- talking > briefly will probably help too > >>>> Very exciting! > >>>> Daniel Byrd > >>>> Executive Director of Kids on Bikes > >>>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 2:13 PM Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> > wrote: > >>>>> Hi. I am a member of The Bike Connector, an earn-a-bike and bike > collective program in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. We recently gained > access to container (12m L x 2.3m W x 2.26m H; 40' L x 7.6' W x 7.4' H) to > help manage our inventory of bikes and parts. I want to maximize the > capacity of the container, while allowing for easy access to the bikes. > I'm sure others have solved this optimization problem. > >>>>> Any suggestions for how to organize this space? > >>>>> <Bike Connector Dumpster Day Empty Container Almost 6-4-20.jpg> > >>>>> ____________________________________ > >>>>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >>>> ____________________________________ > >>>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >>> ____________________________________ > >>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >> ____________________________________ > >> The ThinkTank mailing List > >> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > <67747905_2654432187955317_2310442493985947648_o_2654432184621984.jpg> > > <350597931008_o_2277749708956902.png> > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: BikeConcord <Smitty(a)bikeconcord.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 22:27:21 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Storage Optimization > Here is how we store bikes that are currently being worked on. If you > would like info on insulation, i can dig that up. > > > > On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > wrote: > > > > Here's some not-great images of the way we maximize storage for bikes. > Basically, vertically, using a hook on the wall for the front wheel. It > helps to have some kind of cradles for the wheels/tires to fit into, but > you don't have to. > > > > It's best to stagger them (as in the outdoor picture), one up, the next > down, the next up, and so on. The spacing is about 11" vertically between > the lower bike and the higher one, and 12" horizontally, bike to bike. This > spacing and staggering should give enough room for the handlebars not to > tangle too much and the cranks not to either. > > > > ~cyclista Nicholas > > > > > >> On 2020-06-07 23:23, BikeConcord wrote: > >> The key is good insulation. Which you can’t see in this photo. > >>>> On Jun 7, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Daniel, > >>> This is amazing! What a great service you provide to the community. > Currently, our workshop is located in a school, which is closed due to the > coronavirus. My hope was to move the workshop and storage into the > container. I played the video. It was a nice overview. Do you have > images of the inside layout? > >>> Wade > >>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 4:17 PM Daniel Byrd <daniel(a)kidsonbikes.net> > wrote: > >>>> Hello! > >>>> We have 14 of these containers for our programs and we have found a > way to maximize space for very cheap. > >>>> Www.kidsonbikes.net and go to "what we do" tab, then a video on bike > Library. > >>>> I can send you photos of exactly how to set stuff up too- talking > briefly will probably help too > >>>> Very exciting! > >>>> Daniel Byrd > >>>> Executive Director of Kids on Bikes > >>>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 2:13 PM Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> > wrote: > >>>>> Hi. I am a member of The Bike Connector, an earn-a-bike and bike > collective program in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. We recently gained > access to container (12m L x 2.3m W x 2.26m H; 40' L x 7.6' W x 7.4' H) to > help manage our inventory of bikes and parts. I want to maximize the > capacity of the container, while allowing for easy access to the bikes. > I'm sure others have solved this optimization problem. > >>>>> Any suggestions for how to organize this space? > >>>>> <Bike Connector Dumpster Day Empty Container Almost 6-4-20.jpg> > >>>>> ____________________________________ > >>>>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >>>> ____________________________________ > >>>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >>> ____________________________________ > >>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >> ____________________________________ > >> The ThinkTank mailing List > >> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > <67747905_2654432187955317_2310442493985947648_o_2654432184621984.jpg> > > <350597931008_o_2277749708956902.png> > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Peaches <steve(a)compersia.community> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 08:27:21 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Storage Optimization > I built a hybrid storage/workshop one out on the cheap for my community. > Sold it for more than we paid! > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/z5QGiQY1Mqq4Yx448 > > That's electrical conduit as the rack "rail". Major issue - only half the > population has the upper body strength to lift their bicycle and hang it > daily. Bikes on the left all the way down and a walking area on the right > worked out for some. > > Steve > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 1:28 AM BikeConcord <Smitty(a)bikeconcord.org> wrote: > >> Here is how we store bikes that are currently being worked on. If you >> would like info on insulation, i can dig that up. >> >> >> > On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> >> wrote: >> > >> > Here's some not-great images of the way we maximize storage for bikes. >> Basically, vertically, using a hook on the wall for the front wheel. It >> helps to have some kind of cradles for the wheels/tires to fit into, but >> you don't have to. >> > >> > It's best to stagger them (as in the outdoor picture), one up, the next >> down, the next up, and so on. The spacing is about 11" vertically between >> the lower bike and the higher one, and 12" horizontally, bike to bike. This >> spacing and staggering should give enough room for the handlebars not to >> tangle too much and the cranks not to either. >> > >> > ~cyclista Nicholas >> > >> > >> >> On 2020-06-07 23:23, BikeConcord wrote: >> >> The key is good insulation. Which you can’t see in this photo. >> >>>> On Jun 7, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Wade Rubinstein <wade(a)bikeconnector.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Daniel, >> >>> This is amazing! What a great service you provide to the community. >> Currently, our workshop is located in a school, which is closed due to the >> coronavirus. My hope was to move the workshop and storage into the >> container. I played the video. It was a nice overview. Do you have >> images of the inside layout? >> >>> Wade >> >>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 4:17 PM Daniel Byrd <daniel(a)kidsonbikes.net> >> wrote: >> >>>> Hello! >> >>>> We have 14 of these containers for our programs and we have found a >> way to maximize space for very cheap. >> >>>> Www.kidsonbikes.net and go to "what we do" tab, then a video on >> bike Library. >> >>>> I can send you photos of exactly how to set stuff up too- talking >> briefly will probably help too >> >>>> Very exciting! >> >>>> Daniel Byrd >> >>>> Executive Director of Kids on Bikes >> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 2:13 PM Wade Rubinstein < >> wade(a)bikeconnector.org> wrote: >> >>>>> Hi. I am a member of The Bike Connector, an earn-a-bike and bike >> collective program in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. We recently gained >> access to container (12m L x 2.3m W x 2.26m H; 40' L x 7.6' W x 7.4' H) to >> help manage our inventory of bikes and parts. I want to maximize the >> capacity of the container, while allowing for easy access to the bikes. >> I'm sure others have solved this optimization problem. >> >>>>> Any suggestions for how to organize this space? >> >>>>> <Bike Connector Dumpster Day Empty Container Almost 6-4-20.jpg> >> >>>>> ____________________________________ >> >>>>> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >>>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >>>> ____________________________________ >> >>>> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >>> ____________________________________ >> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> > <67747905_2654432187955317_2310442493985947648_o_2654432184621984.jpg> >> > <350597931008_o_2277749708956902.png> >> > ____________________________________ >> > >> > The ThinkTank mailing List >> > >> > Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> > >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Angel York <aniola(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:07:02 -0700 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] thanks y'all > I'm guessing some of you had something to do with this: > > https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2020/06/07/bikes-front-lines > > <3 > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Amanda Chilson <achilson(a)nbccoalition.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 13:02:45 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Online Collaborative Workshop on Safe & > Effective Shop Operations > Hi Robert, > Thank you for organizing this. I would love to attend. > > > Amanda Chilson > Health and Wellness Coordinator > Northern Berkshire Community Coalition > 61 Main St. Suite 218 > North Adams, MA 01247 > 413-663-7588 Ext. 16 > www.nbccoalition.org > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 5:44 PM Robert Grossman <rgrossman7(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I wanted to invite the bike collective community to a collaborative >> online workshop to make a bit more sense of operating safely & effectively >> both in the short and long terms, volunteer management, and shop's capacity >> for providing services. >> >> Day: Friday June 12 >> Time: 3pm Central Time >> >> This will be a three-part structured workshop where participants will be >> paired up with each other and begin to chart the trends they are seeing. We >> will then look at these as a group. The second part will be working >> together in small groups to sort out what services you feel are critical to >> address, the activities to make them happen, and what the cultural aspects >> for each will be. The final part will be individual or by shop, by focusing >> on who it is you are serving, what you are offering them, the opportunities >> there, and the risks involved. >> >> I realize that some shops have already figured this stuff out, but I know >> there are several that are still struggling with it. This is to help them. >> It would be great to have participants who can share how they have worked >> things out. >> >> It is a 45 minute long workshop. We will be using Zoom for meeting >> together and Freehand by Invision to collaborate. I built this workshop in >> grad school and this is the first time doing it digitally. I plan to record >> it so I can see what works and what doesn't. Please go easy me :p >> >> >> Email me directly if you are interested and I will send you the invites. >> >> >> -- >> Robert Grossman >> www.robertgrossmandesign.com >> https://twitter.com/rgrossmandesign >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertgrossman7 >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rgrossman7> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/robkeebler/albums >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Thomas Butler <thomas.unavailable(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 14:32:04 -0500 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Is TheThinkTank searchable? > I'm used to being able to search email listservs' archives, but it seems > like I can't and I'm relegated to asking a question that may have been > previously answered? > > Thomas Butler > he | they > Austin's Yellow Bike Project > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "cyclista(a)inventati.org" <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 19:50:39 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Is TheThinkTank searchable? > Yes, it is. But I can't remember the location. You'll just need to search > for "thinktank" "archives" online. > > It really should be posted wherever the signup page is. > > ~cyclista Nicholas > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Godwin !" <goodgodwin(a)hotmail.com> > To: "thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org" < > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 19:53:20 +0000 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Is TheThinkTank searchable? > You can find a link on the bikecollectives.org site, near the bottom, it > says "View the archives", here's the link: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org/. > From there you will be able to search. > > godwin > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> on > behalf of cyclista(a)inventati.org <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > *Sent:* June 8, 2020 12:50 PM > *To:* thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org < > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > *Subject:* [TheThinkTank] Is TheThinkTank searchable? > > Yes, it is. But I can't remember the location. You'll just need to search > for "thinktank" "archives" online. > > It really should be posted wherever the signup page is. > > ~cyclista Nicholas > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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Starting a bike coop in the Philippines
by John Klock 04 Oct '20

04 Oct '20

I would like to get a bike coop started in the Philippines. I wanted to inquire about tools cost to start and then ask about what might be some initial problems getting this going. Lastly, I wanted to combine this with bicycle advocacy. Thanks, John [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-anima…]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…>

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Response to Dennis re Earn-a-Bike
by Mildred Locke 22 Sep '20

22 Sep '20

Hi Dennis, We run an Earn-a-Bike programme at the Bristol Bike Project so I might be able to help out. What exactly do you need and what is it for? Are you looking to set one up? I could forward our annual impact report if it's helpful. We manage to run our programme without funding because we use donated bikes and secondhand parts, volunteer time, and charge £20 at the end for a lock and lights, which covers our costs. Of course if you wanted to do the whole thing for free then you would need some funding but we don't have any funding docs that would be useful. Let me know if you'd like to discuss more. Here's the link to our 2019 impact report: https://thebristolbikeproject.org/2020/05/07/proudly-presenting-our-latest-… All the best, Mildred 21 Sep 2020 21:04:06 thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Build a bike program design? (Dennis Wollersheim) > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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