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google squared useful for cataloging community bikes shops
by rachael spiewak 06 Jul '09

06 Jul '09

For the computery types on the list.. If you enter "community bike shop" (or bicycle collective, etc) into Google Squared, a nifty spreadsheet comes up with a handful of our shops. If anyone wants to take it on, it could be expanded to include everyone and all sorts of useful info. It might be a good way to answer some frequently asked questions, like "who has a youth earn-a-bike program?" or "what's your mission statement?". -rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm

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Coming to PDX, need a bike to ride while there.
by Julian Beldotti 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

Hailing here from Fort Collins, CO. I'm about to take a quick reprieve from the small city life, to a big small city, and hang out in Portland for 10 days in July. Last time I was there and attempted to borrow a bike, citybikes or whatever wanted to charge me 15 bux a day. It wasn't very co-op friendly of them, I thought. So this time, I'm hollering at all ya'll in the Portland area who are bike co-op connected to see if I can borrow a bike while I'm there, so I don't have to take the rail everywhere. Holler. Julian.

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Creative solutions for handling/storing shop pumps?
by veganboyjosh＠gmail.com 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

We've got a number of donated, bought, and found floor pumps in our shop. A variety of brands, sizes, and shapes. Right now they just live in a corner, but they like to play the domino game and fall over themselves when someone goes to grab one. Does anyone have any creative things you've done to handle this problem? As always, pictures are great. Thanks! josh.

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Hiring an employee / Advertising
by Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Hi All, Thanks for the advice a ways back on hiring mechanics as contractors. I may just be paranoid worrying about things but I have another employment question. Say a community bike shop wanted to hire a person for the summer to develop a board of directors as well as youth and free bike programming....Is this something we have to advertise publicly about or can we just make the decision as a collective and hire someone? We know someone that is perfect for the job (experience and enthusiasm), Thanks! Brian Urban Bike Project of Wilmington -a 501(c)3 non-profit bike shop- 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19802 Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00 Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org

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Duzer Duz America - Bike Tour
by Ryan Guzy 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

I don't think this has been posted to the list before, I'm surprised Josh didn't let us know sooner :-) Ryan Van Duzer is riding a New Belgium three speed across the US raising money for Community Cycles in Boulder, filming for his blog and a newspaper, and doing bike advocacy. His blog and info are here: http://ryanvanduzer.com/ He's a really cool guy, we hung out and rode with him while he was in Tempe this past weekend, and he was at BICAS in Tucson today. While he was in town he did some filming at Bike Saviours and with another bike advocacy group I'm involved in, TBAG. Check out his route to see if he's coming your way, he should be heading through Las Cruces and Albuquerque next. <http://ryanvanduzer.com/>*Ryan Guzy* Bike Saviours Tempe, AZ www.bikesaviours.org

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Website, hosting...
by Jason Moore 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

Hi, I'm with the Davis Bike Church and we are looking to setup a new website for our group (we've been using the daviswiki.org). I want a site that will allow anyone with permission to add content, allow for calendars, forms, online donations, etc, and have our own domain name and a decent amount of server space (~1GB) so we can use it to share files and documents. I want to run an open source content management system such as plone, joomla, drupal, etc to do these things and wanted to ask some questions about how other groups handle this: 1. Recommendations on which CMS if I've never used a CMS before? Which one offers functionality that bike collectives typically need? Which one is easiest for end users? 2. Where do you host your site? How much is it? Can non-profits get free or reduced price hosting? 3. Any other tips on website related stuff? Rev. Jason Moore Davis Bike Church

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Business Licensing mumbo jumbo
by Erik at Recyclery 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

I know laws aren't all the same everywhere, but The Recyclery has been told that we will be needing a second-hand business license because we sell used bicycles and parts. We don't pay for anything used--everything is donation-only--and this would mean that we have to take IDs from every buyer and donor. There are a number of other prohibitive restrictions obviously aimed more toward pawn shops than charitable organizations, but our indepented 501(c)3 status hasn't gone through yet. As of now we are just planning on not holding sales in our new shop. Has anyone else had to grapple with this while trying to open as a "legitimate" business? erik -- The Recyclery Collective 7628 N Paulina Chicago, IL 60626 P: 773.262.5900 F: 773.751.5241 www.therecyclery.org

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helmets, lights, locks, and other essential accessories
by rachael spiewak 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

Hi, everyone. For those who have distributor accounts, do you order and distribute helmets, lights, and locks? How does that work? -rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm

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Cutting Bike Locks
by Scott Beardsley 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

I'm involved with the Sacramento Bicycle Kitchen in California. We recently sealed a deal with the local Police to take 30-40 bikes/month off of their hands in return for working with troubled (meaning law-breaking) teens (something we're doing already anyways). I'm really excited about this and it'll bring even more exposure to our quickly growing shop/org along with giving us a ton of extra used parts. I have a question about breaking/cutting locks. Most of the bikes we will get still have locks (U-locks, chains, cables locks, etc) on them. What is the best way to remove these? Right now we are passing it on to the customer, but it'd be nice to at least have the proper tools if they wanted to DIY it. So far we have zero power tools in the shop. This might end up being the exception. What do we need to consider? Eye protection for everyone? Tell me how you handle these issues in your shop. Thanks! Scott

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Wheel Building classes
by Jason Tanzman 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

Hi Rich and others, At Sibley Bike Depot in St. Paul, MN we've taught a number of successful wheel building classes. We usually have 8-14 participants. We usually have two instructors (pretty much for all of our classes) which includes one mechanic with reasonable wheel building experience and one mechanic who works at Quality Bike Products in the Wheel Building division (so he is truly an expert). We've tried both used parts and new parts for our wheels; since we're usually low in 27" rear wheels, in our last class, we deconstructed 27" front rims (which are always in abundance) and rebuilt the rims with rear high flange Normandy hubs (in abundance off of old schwinns and others). This ended up not working super well - the single wall used rims did not rebuild well, and we had a couple wheels literally taco in my hands when I was attempting to de-tension spokes. We built a few wheels using the rear normandy hubs and new Sun CR18 rims - those worked way better. We used new spokes for all wheel builds. In general, wheel building is pretty hard to teach, especially if you're using used rims. For future wheel building classes, I think we will build with all new parts - we've built a number of track wheels using dimension/formula hubs - it comes to around $65/wheel wholesale in parts but you can sell those wheels for $100-120, or put them on old road bikes and add value (especially if your shop is having trouble getting decent bikes donated for your sales floor). You can also charge $20 for parts/materials for the class to offset the investment in expensive new parts - that's what we do (registration is free for all classes, except for the parts/materials offset for wheel classes). We have always let people purchase parts at retail prices and build wheels for themselves - it gives us a bit of revenue, and people get to build something that they can keep. Jason Tanzman jtanzman(a)riseup.net thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Cutting Bike Locks (Scott Beardsley) > 2. Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum? (Rich Points) > 3. Re: Cutting Bike Locks (Stuart O Anderson) > 4. Re: Cutting Bike Locks (reno bikes) > 5. Re: Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum? (Sam Santos) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:25:22 -0700 > From: Scott Beardsley <scott(a)sacbikekitchen.org> > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Cutting Bike Locks > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Message-ID: > <67b59b4e0906231525r103fccd9w6f9b84b37540e9b8(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I'm involved with the Sacramento Bicycle Kitchen in California. We > recently sealed a deal with the local Police to take 30-40 bikes/month > off of their hands in return for working with troubled (meaning > law-breaking) teens (something we're doing already anyways). I'm > really excited about this and it'll bring even more exposure to our > quickly growing shop/org along with giving us a ton of extra used > parts. I have a question about breaking/cutting locks. Most of the > bikes we will get still have locks (U-locks, chains, cables locks, > etc) on them. What is the best way to remove these? Right now we are > passing it on to the customer, but it'd be nice to at least have the > proper tools if they wanted to DIY it. So far we have zero power tools > in the shop. This might end up being the exception. What do we need to > consider? Eye protection for everyone? Tell me how you handle these > issues in your shop. > > Thanks! > Scott > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:27:16 -0600 > From: Rich Points <rich(a)communitycycles.org> > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum? > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Message-ID: <4A4156C4.6030207(a)communitycycles.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Hey All, > We're developing a wheel building class here at Community Cycles. We > have a rough idea of what we'd like to do but we could use some help > smoothing it out. > > We're thinking the class would be three 2 hour sessions at a cost of $X > to 6 - 8 students. > > We've thought of two ways to go about supplies for the class. One would > be to use recycled rims, hubs, nipples and maybe spokes. Another way > would be to buy the parts from our wholesalers. The latter option means > we could have control of what the class is working with. The former > option could mean a lot more on the fly problem solving for the > instructor and class but it'd be a lot cheaper for us and our students. > I'm leaning towards the new parts option because I think it'll provide > the highest quality of instruction. What do you guys think? > > Another question we're trying to figure out is what happens to the > wheels that get built in the class. At our shop we're always in dire > need of 700cc wheels. So we're thinking the class could build 700 > wheels and they'd be used by the shop. However people taking the class > may want to build wheels that they'd keep as their own. If we structure > the class to just build 700 fronts we have more consistency and > control. If we let folks build wheels for their own projects the class > might have more general appeal but presents logistical and supplies > hurdles. > > Please let us know how your shop is teaching wheel building. > > Ride On! > >

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