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Re: [TheThinkTank] Addressing incidents from last year's BikeBike!
by dragonfly＠mac.hush.com 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Dave. It takes courage to do the sort of introspection you've clearly done, and courage to apologize the way you just have. I was not there when you stepped over the line, and I didn't even know you had until I read this post, but I was pleased that you wrote it and impressed that you had done so, also. Thank you. Everyone has someone they wish had written to them the way you have just written to this community; it is nice to read such an apology, just to know that people do face themselves and take responsibility sometimes. Many of us probably have someone we should go back and write to. The positive way I felt about you reading this made me want to call an old friend whose feelings I know I hurt. So, your letter was encouraging in two ways. Thanks for writing it. Sasha On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:53:51 -0400 Dave Caz <pwloffice(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Hey all, > >My name is Dave, and I was asked to address a situation I created >at last year's bikebike before attending the current conference, >and after consideration, I wholeheartedly agree with the request >and apologize it was not done sooner. > >Last year, at the bikebike party, I drank quite heavily and >crossed major boundaries of people I never met. I created a very >uncomfortable situation for people just trying to have a good >time. I was responsible for making people feel threatened for >their safety and space they deserved. I apologize for turning a >people's night to celebrate into a bad memory for some. > >I can not say for sure what happened exactly, because I was too >intoxicated to recall a large portion of that night, but the >second hand accounts of my actions blew my mind. I have never >acted in such a horrific way, nor have EVER considered to do the >audacious things I did to people that eve. > >But I am responsible for my actions, drunk or not, and in no way >excuse what I did. I owed it to the people who worked so hard to >make bikebike! a success that year, to the visitors, conference >members and all in attendance, to manage myself in a respectful >manner, and I blew it. I am sorry. > >This year I promise to show the utmost control over my person as >to never ever ever ever make people feel the way I did. I >frequently dwell on the facts of what happened, and it is a burden >I will have to live with, but live with AND change from it to >never allow it to happen again. I will not be drinking >before/during/after anything going on in the next potential >FOREVER, and will also not be attending the celebration going on >this year or next. > >All I ask is that you take me for who I am, and not the monster I >was. I am truly sorry and understand that if I now have a bad >reputation with you, I earned every bit of it, but I am trying to >redeem myself. > >Sending this to 2 giant list-servs is not easy for me, but it is >something I am doing to come clean to everyone. Hoping that >people not expect a repeat from me, and encouraging others to >police their actions and not lose control as I did. Remember a >lot of people got their shit together and busted their collective >asses to make this awesome thing happen. > >If you wish to talk to me about this, please come find me and >we'll chat. >I'm trying to learn from this as best as possible. > > >Thanks to everyone for not blacklisting me and giving me a second >chance. >Again, I am truly sorry, and hope you can get past my past, as I >am trying to do the same. > >peace, >Milwaukee Dave. > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Thethinktank mailing list >Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org >To unsubscribe, send a blank email to leave- >TheThinkTank(a)bikecollectives.org >To manage your subscription, plase visit: >http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- >bikecollectives.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 wkYEARECAAYFAkjrymYACgkQ5O7ahKJmrRkicACeMD6fIe1J8ZLaxbHPwuB6yxCz6PYA mgPsrZG+7Z+mFhTOYDQZUQ7RGBwu =sVPk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Saturday Hours Question
by Bob Giordano 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

11-3 for free cycles missoula. works well, though we ususally stay open til 5pm informally. -Bob g. Jonathan Morrison wrote: > In Salt Lake City we are looking into opening another open shop night on > Saturday. For those of you that have Saturday hours, what are they? -- Bob Giordano Free Cycles Missoula Shop: 732 S. 1st St. West, 541.7284 3PM-7PM Mon-Thurs & 11AM-3PM Sat Missoula Institute for Sustainable Transportation www.strans.org, mist(a)strans.org, 406-880-6834

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Election do's and don'ts for non-profits
by Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

For all those with 501(c)3 status, this election guide<http://www.bikeleague.org/programs/bikeadvocacy/election.php#nonprofits>from the League of American Bicyclists was just posted on Thunderhead listserv and I thought I'd share it with you all as well. Brian Windle P.S. For newer members of the list: check out the Bike Collective Wiki<http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page>first before posting to the list, lot's of good information is just waiting for you there! Bike Collective Starter Kit<http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bike_Collective_Starter…> Shop Locations<http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Shop_Locations>(Finding space for your shop) -- Urban Bike Project of Wilmington -a 501(c)3 non-profit bike shop- 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801 Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00 Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Saturday Hours Question
by troy neiman 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

At bicas we are open from 12-6pm every sat. and have a build a bike class that is usually from 1-4pm that runs simultaneously to our open shop. This requires 4 staff for the shop and 2 teachers for the class. Saturday is with out a doubt our busiest day for shop use, community service, and work traders. Its almost always overwhelming for us but works really well for the general public. Troy @ BICAS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Morrison" <jonathan(a)slcbikecollective.org> > To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Saturday Hours Question > Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:51:47 -0600 > > > In Salt Lake City we are looking into opening another open shop night on > Saturday. For those of you that have Saturday hours, what are they? > > -- > Sincerely, > > Jonathan Morrison > Executive Director > Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective > 2312 S. West Temple > Salt Lake City, UT 84115 > w: 801-328-2453 > c: 801-688-0183 > f: 801-466-3856 > www.slcbikecollective.org > > Get Addicted to Crank! > http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/ > > The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling > as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone > of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides > refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on > children and lower income households. > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to leave-TheThinkTank(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com

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A catchy name for "women's night"?
by Alex Rosenblatt 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

Hey all, Alex here from Recycle Ithaca's Bicycles in Ithaca, NY. We're currently reorganizing and overhauling shop logistics and we're looking for a catchy name for our "women's night." We want to stray away from that name because the night is not exclusively women but instead a place where women and transpeople are the active shop leaders. Any names catchy or appropriate names that you use or come to mind? Thanks, Alex

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Bike Storage Racks and Other Solutions
by Sam Santos 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

I'm a member and volunteer at The Bike Project of Urbana-Champaign. Due to a recent donation of abandoned bikes from the local university, we are dealing with some space problems. Space has always been an issue, but this new donation makes it plainly obvious that we need to build something that will allow us to store bikes a bit better than our current non-solution of leaning them against each other. I'm certain other co-ops and collectives have run into this issue, and I would love to hear how you solved it. If you built some cool storage rack, shelf, hanging thing or whatever, I would be incredibly interested to hear about that. I would be even happier if you could describe how you built it or had pictures of the finished structure. No point in re-inventing the wheel here. If there is a great solution that can be built cheaply, I'm all for it. Thanks... and have fun at BikeBike. Wish I could be there as it sounds like an awesome time. --sam

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designer bike helmets
by adam schwartz 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

One of our ongoing challenges at the Renaissance Youth Bike Shop is getting kids to wear helmets. All participants in our programs are required to wear helmets, but influencing the youth culture is difficult, where helmets are considered even by most adults in our community, non-essential and un-cool. Our idea is to work with a local graffiti artist to create our own line of designer helmets. We would sell these helmets as a fundraiser, both in our shop and at our local bike shop. Has anyone any experience with customizing helmets or bikes? I am thinking the BMX style helmets would work best as a surface area to paint. Pictures to come. Also, see a pic of our recent mural installed at the shop, painted by students and their art teacher at nearby middle school. -- Adam Schwartz Program Coordinator, The Renaissance Youth Bike Shop Center For Educational Partnership 6200 Sheridan Street, Riverdale, MD adamgs(a)umd.edu (301) 405-3213

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Saturday Hours Question
by Jonathan Morrison 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

In Salt Lake City we are looking into opening another open shop night on Saturday. For those of you that have Saturday hours, what are they? -- Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/ The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.

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bulk universal derailleur cables
by rachael spiewak 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

Does anyone have a preferred brand or source for a filebox of universal (double ended) derailleur cables. We're *this close* to having a distributor account, which will probably solve the problem, but in the meantime, our people, they need to shift gears. One source we use sends them individually bagged, which is dumb (we reuse the bags, of course, but we don't need that many). JensonUSA and BikepartsUSA are lacking in photos and descriptions, and when I call them, they give me different information from the people at Pyramid and Jagwire. I'm starting to think that the world is consipring against DIY bike repair, also made evident by the complete elusiveness of Park Tool FR-2 in this town. One retailer asked why in the world we might need that tool...it's for OLD bikes. Well you see, sir... Anyway, any info on a filebox of 2-ended shifter cables would be marvelous. -rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm

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drugs, alcohol and our mission
by John Boyer 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

Now I realize this is not going to win alot of people over but here goes anyways! I am strongly opposed to a slack, go with the flow, biochemical personality run environment for our cause. Let me explain, My collective exploded recently due directly and indirectly to a paranoid environment that split the group into 2 groups and cost us alot of time finance and momentum. "the new reality crew"" banded together with a constant flow of weed use and subsequent paranoia. The following attacks on those that didnt party literally spun off alot of good people. The few that questioned the devisiveness of this""know best" group were then railroaded out by smear campaigns induced by the amount of weed smoked on a daily basis. I truly feel we will never overcome the barriers ahead of us if we create a place where drug use is the common denominator in the collective movement. This call out is not an anti drug message. Im the first to open a bottle of wine after a long day of riding and wrenching. Its just a call out that we can do better when we are all rooted in the reality that we have a lot of work ahead of us. Here in the States the car rules right now and we will have to do a better job united and communicating effectively to change our reality to a bike friendly world. Be steadfast in creating an environment friendly to all walks of life and ability and we all win. Thanks for your time reading this.

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