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Prices of New Cables and Housing?
by Josh Bisker 08 Sep '17

08 Sep '17

Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for doing so per se? We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. Josh Bisker 914-500-9890 New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 132, Issue 2
by Tegan Moss 06 Sep '17

06 Sep '17

At B!KE in Peterborough Ontario we charge $4 per cable and $2 per foot for housing. All our cables are stainless and all the housing is slick-lined. The prices are all tax inclusive. At that price you can re-cable a bike for less than $30. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:13 PM, < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Josh Bisker) > 2. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Scott Long) > 3. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Arlin Schaffel) > 4. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Gabriel Trainer) > 5. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Reno Bikes) > 6. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (LaBikery) > 7. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Shannon Southwood) > 8. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Michael Young) > 9. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Ainsley Naylor) > 10. Hiring an Education Coordinator at Community Cycles, Boulder > CO (Sue Prant) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 18:06:09 -0400 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you > recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice > the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for > doing so per se? > > We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas > about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. > > Josh Bisker > 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> > New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> > 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> > Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Scott Long <scott.m.long(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 18:15:50 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > We get ours from QBP in the box of 100. They cost us $0.33 cents each. We > don't sell them directly to the public for the most part, but we use them > in repairs and they go for $1 each. We reuse housing for the most part so > the cost is almost nothing. > > On Sep 5, 2017 6:07 PM, "Josh Bisker" <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you > recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice > the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for > doing so per se? > > We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas > about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. > > Josh Bisker > 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> > New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> > 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> > Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o > rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Arlin Schaffel <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 16:16:18 -0600 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past with > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. > > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at > $1.00/cable & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops > but it hasn't been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving > different clients than our local shops. > > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and > modified from there. > > > *Arlin Schaffel* > *Bridge City Bicycle Co-op* > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ > twitter.com/the_bcbc > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for >> doing so per se? >> >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of >> ideas about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. >> >> Josh Bisker >> 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:30:37 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing: > > Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members > > Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot > > We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils, > and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use. > > Gabriel > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel > <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> wrote: > > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past with > > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. > > > > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at > $1.00/cable > > & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it > hasn't > > been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different > clients > > than our local shops. > > > > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the > > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and > > modified from there. > > > > > > Arlin Schaffel > > Bridge City Bicycle Co-op > > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com > > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ > > twitter.com/the_bcbc > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you > >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to > underprice > >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale > for > >> doing so per se? > >> > >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of > ideas > >> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. > >> > >> Josh Bisker > >> 914-500-9890 > >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op > >> 596 Acres > >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus > >> > >> ____________________________________ > >> > >> The ThinkTank mailing List > >> > >> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > >> > >> > > > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Reno Bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:55:39 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > At Reno Bike Project we do pretty much just like Bike Farm, above. > $2/cable and $1/foot of housing. Used cables and housing are free/donations > accepted. > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> > wrote: > >> At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing: >> >> Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members >> >> Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot >> >> We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils, >> and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use. >> >> Gabriel >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel >> <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> wrote: >> > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past >> with >> > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. >> > >> > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at >> $1.00/cable >> > & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it >> hasn't >> > been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different >> clients >> > than our local shops. >> > >> > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the >> > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and >> > modified from there. >> > >> > >> > Arlin Schaffel >> > Bridge City Bicycle Co-op >> > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com >> > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ >> > twitter.com/the_bcbc >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you >> >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to >> underprice >> >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale >> for >> >> doing so per se? >> >> >> >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of >> ideas >> >> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. >> >> >> >> Josh Bisker >> >> 914-500-9890 >> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op >> >> 596 Acres >> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus >> >> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bi >> kecollectives.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > >> > The ThinkTank mailing List >> > >> > Unsubscribe from this list here: >> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bi >> kecollectives.org >> > >> > >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> > > > -- > > Monday-Wednesday, Saturday 10am-5pm > Thursday-Friday 10am-6pm > Sunday 11am-4pm > 541 E. 4th Street. > Reno, NV 89512 > 775-323-4488 <(775)%20323-4488> > > Donate via Paypal > <https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=vuvKXYxQM2VBR5M9BfV-SidWS6o5AjC5cqYqR4…> > | Follow us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/renobikeproject> | > Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/renobikeproject/> | Twitter > <https://twitter.com/renobikeproject> > > Please let us know if you would like to unsubscribe to our email list. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: LaBikery <labikery(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2017 16:04:05 +0000 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > We also don't re-use old cables/housing (however sometimes people will > still grab it from our recycle bin). Typically we explain why it's better > to use new (as Arlin explained). If people can't afford the price we have a > Fund set aside that and we'll give them new cables/housing. > > Our prices are $1.50 per cable, and $1/ft for housing. > > We stick pretty hard to keeping our prices at a 50% markup from our > supplier so that it's a fair market price. (Our prices are set at cables we > bought quite a few years ago when we did a big order...we have to order > more so they'll likely go up a tad soon). > > Because we have a fund put aside for folks that can't afford parts it > means that people can pay-what-they-can or not at all. We don't advertise > that fund really but we let anyone know when they come in not to worry > about money as a barrier to repairs. > > Krysta > > On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 19:55 Reno Bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> At Reno Bike Project we do pretty much just like Bike Farm, above. >> $2/cable and $1/foot of housing. Used cables and housing are free/donations >> accepted. >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> >> wrote: >> >>> At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing: >>> >>> Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members >>> >>> Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot >>> >>> We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils, >>> and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use. >>> >>> Gabriel >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel >>> <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> wrote: >>> > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past >>> with >>> > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. >>> > >>> > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at >>> $1.00/cable >>> > & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it >>> hasn't >>> > been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different >>> clients >>> > than our local shops. >>> > >>> > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the >>> > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and >>> > modified from there. >>> > >>> > >>> > Arlin Schaffel >>> > Bridge City Bicycle Co-op >>> > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com >>> > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ >>> > twitter.com/the_bcbc >>> > >>> > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout >>> you >>> >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to >>> underprice >>> >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale >>> for >>> >> doing so per se? >>> >> >>> >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of >>> ideas >>> >> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. >>> >> >>> >> Josh Bisker >>> >> 914-500-9890 >>> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op >>> >> 596 Acres >>> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus >>> >> >>> >> ____________________________________ >>> >> >>> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >> >>> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank- >>> bikecollectives.org >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > ____________________________________ >>> > >>> > The ThinkTank mailing List >>> > >>> > Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank- >>> bikecollectives.org >>> > >>> > >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. >>> org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Monday-Wednesday, Saturday 10am-5pm >> Thursday-Friday 10am-6pm >> Sunday 11am-4pm >> 541 E. 4th Street. >> Reno, NV 89512 >> 775-323-4488 <(775)%20323-4488> >> >> Donate via Paypal >> <https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=vuvKXYxQM2VBR5M9BfV-SidWS6o5AjC5cqYqR4…> >> | Follow us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/renobikeproject> | >> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/renobikeproject/> | Twitter >> <https://twitter.com/renobikeproject> >> >> Please let us know if you would like to unsubscribe to our email list. >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. >> org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Shannon Southwood <shannon(a)sacbikekitchen.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:21:50 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > At Sac Bike Kitchen, we also do $2/each for cables and $1/ft for housing > with used cables and housing being free. We used to not allow cables and > housing sales for projects outside the shop but recently changed this as > our contacts at the local bike shops made pretty clear what we do doesn't > effect them in any appreciable way. It probably helps that our hours are > limited and we are usually open when they are closed... > > -Shannon > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:04 AM, LaBikery <labikery(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> We also don't re-use old cables/housing (however sometimes people will >> still grab it from our recycle bin). Typically we explain why it's better >> to use new (as Arlin explained). If people can't afford the price we have a >> Fund set aside that and we'll give them new cables/housing. >> >> Our prices are $1.50 per cable, and $1/ft for housing. >> >> We stick pretty hard to keeping our prices at a 50% markup from our >> supplier so that it's a fair market price. (Our prices are set at cables we >> bought quite a few years ago when we did a big order...we have to order >> more so they'll likely go up a tad soon). >> >> Because we have a fund put aside for folks that can't afford parts it >> means that people can pay-what-they-can or not at all. We don't advertise >> that fund really but we let anyone know when they come in not to worry >> about money as a barrier to repairs. >> >> Krysta >> >> >> On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 19:55 Reno Bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> At Reno Bike Project we do pretty much just like Bike Farm, above. >>> $2/cable and $1/foot of housing. Used cables and housing are free/donations >>> accepted. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing: >>>> >>>> Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members >>>> >>>> Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot >>>> >>>> We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils, >>>> and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use. >>>> >>>> Gabriel >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel >>>> <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> wrote: >>>> > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past >>>> with >>>> > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. >>>> > >>>> > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at >>>> $1.00/cable >>>> > & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it >>>> hasn't >>>> > been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different >>>> clients >>>> > than our local shops. >>>> > >>>> > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the >>>> > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and >>>> > modified from there. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Arlin Schaffel >>>> > Bridge City Bicycle Co-op >>>> > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com >>>> > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ >>>> > twitter.com/the_bcbc >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout >>>> you >>>> >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to >>>> underprice >>>> >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the >>>> rationale for >>>> >> doing so per se? >>>> >> >>>> >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of >>>> ideas >>>> >> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. >>>> >> >>>> >> Josh Bisker >>>> >> 914-500-9890 >>>> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op >>>> >> 596 Acres >>>> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus >>>> >> >>>> >> ____________________________________ >>>> >> >>>> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >>>> >> >>>> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>>> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bi >>>> kecollectives.org >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ____________________________________ >>>> > >>>> > The ThinkTank mailing List >>>> > >>>> > Unsubscribe from this list here: >>>> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bi >>>> kecollectives.org >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ____________________________________ >>>> >>>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >>>> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Monday-Wednesday, Saturday 10am-5pm >>> Thursday-Friday 10am-6pm >>> Sunday 11am-4pm >>> 541 E. 4th Street. >>> Reno, NV 89512 >>> 775-323-4488 <(775)%20323-4488> >>> >>> Donate via Paypal >>> <https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=vuvKXYxQM2VBR5M9BfV-SidWS6o5AjC5cqYqR4…> >>> | Follow us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/renobikeproject> | >>> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/renobikeproject/> | Twitter >>> <https://twitter.com/renobikeproject> >>> >>> Please let us know if you would like to unsubscribe to our email list. >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >>> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>> >>> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Young <michael(a)westtownbikes.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 11:45:59 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > <SNIP> > > Used cables are fine to re-use as long as they are in good condition. > Cables from the rear can often move to the front and live a longer life. > > <SNIP> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ainsley Naylor <needleandthread(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:47:47 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > @ Bike Pirates we have always sold cable assemblies (cable, housing, > ferrules/caps) as a unit, rather than having to figure our how much housing > each participant has used. Our price has been $5 for as long as I can > remember and applies to both brake and shift lines. > > Ainsley. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Michael Young <michael(a)westtownbikes.org> > wrote: > >> <SNIP> >> >> Used cables are fine to re-use as long as they are in good condition. >> Cables from the rear can often move to the front and live a longer life. >> >> <SNIP> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sue Prant <sue(a)communitycycles.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:25:26 -0600 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Hiring an Education Coordinator at Community > Cycles, Boulder CO > > Education Coordinator Job Description > > Purpose: > > The Education Coordinator manages the Earn a Bike (EAB) program, > coordinates the Complete Mechanic Series (CMS), and conducts occasional > other workshops at and on behalf of Community Cycles. Reports to: Community > Cycles Sales and Service Manager > > Education/ Experience/ Specific Knowledge:1 + years bike mechanic > experience. 1+ years teaching experience. Excellent communication skills. > Excellent organization skills. Hours per week: 15-20 > > Responsibilities: EAB > > - > > Facilitate EAB program participants’ progress through the program by > resolving problems, responding to questions, answering all inquiries and > getting participants their bikes > - > > Coordinates with employees and volunteers working on web site and > Salesforce to make sure class times and descriptions are accurate. > - > > Enters participants into Salesforce when necessary > - > > Track TANF and other paperwork associated with EABers. > - > > Opens up EAB waiting list (when there is one) and notifies people on > list > - > > Continually review the EAB process to ensure it functions smoothly and > cost effectively while remaining relevant, engaging and worthwhile to > participants. > - > > Keep Community Cycles members, volunteers and staff informed about EAB > through the newsletter and staff meetings > - > > Distribute surveys and review participant feedback for improvements to > the process, workshop curriculums, materials and props. > - > > Keep the EAB and CMS program consistent with the Community Cycles > community service goals. > - > > Maintain order in the weekly teaching props bins > - > > Maintain a sufficient supply of new helmets for EAB graduates. > Coordinate delivery with Boulder Community Hospital. > - > > Continually review EAB reports in Salesforce to maintain accuracy. > > Responsibilities: CMS > > - > > Coordination of the CMS Series and Park Tool School > - > > Coordinate scheduling for class series and instructors > - > > Insure that all CMS props are ready at the beginning of each series > > Other Responsibilities > > - > > Coordinate dates for workshops and CMS with the Instructor Corps to > insure adequate coverage. > - > > Coordinate the delivery of Adult Maintenance 101 and Fix-a-Flat > workshops for UCAR, BVSD and Boulder County. > - > > Maintain the Education Station and insure handout bins are adequately > supplied. Insure handouts are current and relevant > - > > Attend monthly staff meetings and others as required. > - > > Provide the Community Cycles Manager, Executive Director and > Membership Director with monthly performance reports. > > Compensation/ Benefits: > > Hourly rate starting at $13 - $15 with a raise after 6 months. PTO after 6 > months. IRA match after 2 years. Flexible work environment and time-off. > > Send cover letter and resume to : manager(a)communitycycles.org. > > Subject line: Education Coordinator opening > > > > > -- > Sue Prant > Executive Director > Community Cycles > 2805 Wilderness Pl Suite 1000 > Boulder, CO 80301 > Phone: 303-564-9681 > e-mail: sue(a)communitycycles.org > www.CommunityCycles.org <http://www.communitycycles.org/> > > > Join the movement! > Become a Community Cycles member <http://communitycycles.org/member/> > > Subscribe to our monthly e-news! <http://communitycycles.org/> > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > -- -- B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 293 George Street North, Peterborough ON (705) 775-7227 communitybikeshop.org

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Hiring an Education Coordinator at Community Cycles, Boulder CO
by Sue Prant 06 Sep '17

06 Sep '17

Education Coordinator Job Description Purpose: The Education Coordinator manages the Earn a Bike (EAB) program, coordinates the Complete Mechanic Series (CMS), and conducts occasional other workshops at and on behalf of Community Cycles. Reports to: Community Cycles Sales and Service Manager Education/ Experience/ Specific Knowledge:1 + years bike mechanic experience. 1+ years teaching experience. Excellent communication skills. Excellent organization skills. Hours per week: 15-20 Responsibilities: EAB - Facilitate EAB program participants’ progress through the program by resolving problems, responding to questions, answering all inquiries and getting participants their bikes - Coordinates with employees and volunteers working on web site and Salesforce to make sure class times and descriptions are accurate. - Enters participants into Salesforce when necessary - Track TANF and other paperwork associated with EABers. - Opens up EAB waiting list (when there is one) and notifies people on list - Continually review the EAB process to ensure it functions smoothly and cost effectively while remaining relevant, engaging and worthwhile to participants. - Keep Community Cycles members, volunteers and staff informed about EAB through the newsletter and staff meetings - Distribute surveys and review participant feedback for improvements to the process, workshop curriculums, materials and props. - Keep the EAB and CMS program consistent with the Community Cycles community service goals. - Maintain order in the weekly teaching props bins - Maintain a sufficient supply of new helmets for EAB graduates. Coordinate delivery with Boulder Community Hospital. - Continually review EAB reports in Salesforce to maintain accuracy. Responsibilities: CMS - Coordination of the CMS Series and Park Tool School - Coordinate scheduling for class series and instructors - Insure that all CMS props are ready at the beginning of each series Other Responsibilities - Coordinate dates for workshops and CMS with the Instructor Corps to insure adequate coverage. - Coordinate the delivery of Adult Maintenance 101 and Fix-a-Flat workshops for UCAR, BVSD and Boulder County. - Maintain the Education Station and insure handout bins are adequately supplied. Insure handouts are current and relevant - Attend monthly staff meetings and others as required. - Provide the Community Cycles Manager, Executive Director and Membership Director with monthly performance reports. Compensation/ Benefits: Hourly rate starting at $13 - $15 with a raise after 6 months. PTO after 6 months. IRA match after 2 years. Flexible work environment and time-off. Send cover letter and resume to : manager(a)communitycycles.org. Subject line: Education Coordinator opening -- Sue Prant Executive Director Community Cycles 2805 Wilderness Pl Suite 1000 Boulder, CO 80301 Phone: 303-564-9681 e-mail: sue(a)communitycycles.org www.CommunityCycles.org <http://www.communitycycles.org/> Join the movement! Become a Community Cycles member <http://communitycycles.org/member/> Subscribe to our monthly e-news! <http://communitycycles.org/>

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HIRING Hub Bike Coop (mpls), HR, Marketing, Service Coord, Development,
by Eamon O'Hara 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

Hey y'all! We here at the Worker-Owned Hub Bike Coop (mpls) <http://www.thehubbikecoop.org/> are hiring for a couple of year-round bike shop positions (job descriptions attached): -Personnel Coordinator (Human Resources) -Development Coord (sorta E.D.) -Marketing Coordinator -Service Dept Coordinator We are a worker owned and operated bike shop with 3 locations in Minneapolis, MN. *Worker Owned. Democratically Run * No outside board of directors or investors make decisions that effect the lives of employees. We are an egalitarian workplace with no closed door meetings (except as required by labor laws). All workers have opportunities to vote on different aspects of the business, and have equal access to information *Supportive Space For All* We provide supportive space that is welcoming and respectful to workers of all genders and cultures. We consistently engage is antioppression trainings that work to dismantle our biases for the benefit of each other & customers. We host one of several Grease Rag <http://www.greaserag.org> Open Shop nights at our Oak Street location. interested folks can send resumes over to apply(a)thehubbikecoop.biz thanks! eamon O -- pronouns: he/him

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Volunteer Rights/Responsibiities
by Todd Spinner 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

Does anyone out there in Bicycle Co-op land have any good documents you can share on volunteer rights or Volunteer bill of rights? I remember seeing one floating around a few years ago but cannot seem to find it in my files. Thanks, Todd -- Todd Spinner The Bike Project of Urbana-Champaign

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Final Call for Interbike Passes!!
by Tiff Mueller 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

Greetings!! I wanted to send one last reminder for Interbike sign ups this year. Again, its a highly valuable experience that brings you face to face with our industry. Passes are free for non-profits and I would really like to help get as many cool folks out there as I can. Just let me know if there are any questions or concerns, but here is the sign up again: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ryv4e0wSR21-9LXoMRrLxjHbG6eafAzTmg4… THE DEADLINE IS SEPTEMBER 6th!!! NEXT WEDNESDAY! Hope the summer treated you all well and you're geared up for a great Fall!! Thanks again, -Tiff Mueller Bike Rescue

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Re: [TheThinkTank] UNSUBSCRIBE
by Andy Caine 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

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UNSUBSCRIBE
by Joey Wilkinson 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

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Volunteer Management Software - help guide and summary
by A Westphal 21 Aug '17

21 Aug '17

Hello everyone, Earlier in the summer, I inquired in this list about volunteer management systems. Since then, I researched your suggestions, as well as programs suggested by a previous post in the ThinkTank archives, and general best-of lists online. Below, you may see my notes about some of the top systems for my organization’s needs. Please remember that because these programs will continue to evolve, these recommendations should be reevaluated if you are revisiting this post in the archives. STEP 1: evaluate your organization Before we dive into the systems themselves, it’s important to think about what your organization really needs, and perhaps more importantly, if your organization has enough volunteer power to start up a system AND keep it running smoothly. You may have enough knowledge for the setup, but unless you have buy-in from your coordinators and your volunteers, the system probably won’t work the way you intended. STEP 2: evaluate your goals Do you want to track exact hours worked, or just count number of events worked by your volunteers? Do you want on-site sign-ins and sign-outs, or will your coordinator check back later to credit the volunteers for their participation? Do you need to track special info, such as ZIP codes, training course completion, etc etc, which might not be included in a software’s standard sign-up profile? Do you want to host the data on a single computer, or keep everything on the cloud? How many coordinator logins do you need? How many volunteer do you want to manage in the system? What decisions does your organization need to make, and how will better data and/or reporting be able to improve the quality of those decisions? STEP 3: review the top programs My list from June/July 2017 can be found below. STEP 4: do product demos Contact the sales reps from several companies, and spend 30-60min speaking to them about the product. Make sure to ask about all the qualifications you identified in Step #2; you could ask if you can send in your list of needs in advance, so they have more time to review what you’re looking for. Don’t be shy about asking very specific and lots of questions. STEP 5: make your selection No single system will do everything you want perfectly -- particularly if you have a limited (or no) budget. Create a scoring sheet to weigh your options, including around items like cost (don’t assume that you’ll stay at the free or cheap option for long), various features, and potential for scalability. STEP 6: pilot one solution Once you’ve decided on your best option, test it out for at least a month. (Most companies offer a free month of their premium product.) To keep things manageable, and avoid major disruption, test the new product with just your core volunteers (who will be willing to deal with some bumps, and give you honest feedback), or just a couple of events. STEP 7: embrace and evaluate After you’ve confirmed the program which will work best for you, move as much data and processes as possible over to the new system. This will take at least twice as long as you expect. As mentioned above, entering and maintaining data requires consistent effort and buy-in across your organization. My list of top programs (the list order is not an exact ranking) 1. Get Connected *aka* Community Connect by Galaxy Digital 1. This program is a very strong contender in this space, and seems to have a highly capable set of analytic tools. 2. We did a phone call with a sales rep, and used a sandbox site. We were interested, but the product does not fit our miniscule budget at this time (they charge $1,000/year for organizations with an operating budget of less than $50,000). 3. https://www.galaxydigital.com/volunteer-management/ 2. Timecounts 1. TimeCounts is comparable to Get Connected (above), but does not seem to include the same analytic tools. 2. We tested the free version for a few weeks and decided to pursue this option further. 3. https://timecounts.org/ 3. Volgistics Volunteer Management 1. The program seems simple, but may be powerful if you can invest time into it. Be careful to note if you’ll need any of their add-ons. 2. We tested their free trial and decided not to pursue it further. 3. https://www.volgistics.com/volunteer-management.htm 4. VolunteerHub 1. This is a highly capable program, but we did not pursue the product further than their informational video, due to lack of fit with our organization. 2. http://www.volunteerhub.com/ 5. Sumac 1. This program is more of a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) tool than a volunteer management system. For that reason, we decided not to pursue it after doing a phone call with a sales rep. 2. http://sumac.com/ 6. SalesForce 1. This software is one of the market leaders for all CRM tools (nonprofit and normal business operations). We did not consider using it because it is far too intense for our small-scale needs, but it may be a good fit for your organization, particularly if you have paid staff. There are also good pricing options available to nonprofits: 10 free licenses, plus ample community support. 2. BikeWalkWitcheta uses this system -- thanks for your feedback. 3. https://www.salesforce.com/ 7. CiviCRM 1. This program requires a fair bit of technical know-how for the setup, but it is also free and open-source, so you could mould it to your organization. 2. I’ve heard that Bikes Not Bombs in Boston uses this system. 3. https://civicrm.org/ 8. PowerBase 1. If you like CiviCRM, but you don’t have the know-how to set it up, try PowerBase! Their product is based on CiviCRM. 2. https://www.progressivetech.org/powerbase/ 9. FreeHub 1. A database of members and the services to which they have access, a sign-in system for use at the front desk of the shop, and a reporting tool for looking at shop use, membership status, etc. 2. This tool was developed by the bike collective community. Information on this and other programs can be located on the bike collectives wiki. 3. http://freehub.bikekitchen.org/ 10. SignUp.com 1. We tested this system, and it is fine as a free program, but we wanted more rigorous analytical capabilities which are only included in the expensive premium package. 2. Thanks to LocalMotion in Burlington, Vermont, for the suggestion. 11. eCoordinator by Samaritan Technologies 1. We did not investigate the specifics features offered with this program because the price point was far too high for us. 2. https://samaritan.com/ 12. Volunteer Impact by Better Impact 1. http://www.betterimpact.com/volunteer-software/ 13. VolunteerLocal 1. www.volunteerlocal.com 14. VolunteerMark 1. https://www.volunteermark.com/ Please note that this list focuses mainly on volunteer management systems. You may also consider looking in other categories to more closely align with your needs, including advocacy/action, fundraising, contact management (CRM), etc. Also note that different systems exist for point-of-sale consoles and inventory processing, so you may also consider investigating those programs if you have a large shop with lots of sales. Thank you for being such a great group. I hope this information is useful to you. Best wishes from Ann Arbor, MI Andrew Westphal Common Cycle board member commoncycle.org

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Fwd: Roll out what you learned in training to your team!
by Angel York 21 Aug '17

21 Aug '17

I recently went to a workshop on non-profit management, "managing to change the world". If anyone is interested, I can set this email series to auto-forward to your email address for the next few months. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: The Management Center <admin(a)managementcenter.org> Date: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:05 AM Subject: Roll out what you learned in training to your team! To: aniola(a)gmail.com Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. <http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=d14f6e75581b6d76530f3d084&id=264a780730…> Dear Friend, Now that you’re back at work after our Managing to Change The World training course, you might be wondering how you’re ever going to translate everything you learned to your team. We want to make that easy for you, so we’ve put together an email (it's below!) that you can tweak and send out to your team to explain the most important concepts from the course, and let them know how they can help you implement some new practices – like MOCHA, goals, check-ins, and debriefing meetings. The best part is you just have to send the email, and your staff will do all the rest! Well, some of it. (Don’t forget to customize the areas below that we’ve marked in all caps!) Also, for the next 12 weeks, we’re going to send you additional prompts and concrete “next steps.” (However, if you don’t want to receive these 12 emails, you can opt out here <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d14f6e75581b6d765…> .) SUBJECT: Big changes afoot… Dear Team: Yesterday I attended the “Managing to Change the World” training, and I came out with a lot of great new tools and ideas, but I’ll need your help to implement everything. This email outlines some of the new approaches I’d like to implement, and explains what that means for you, in terms of new ways to approach, manage, and evaluate your work. I want to give you each big goals, and let each of you have ownership on how you’ll achieve those goals. At the end, there’s a list of ACTION ITEMS for everyone. I know this is a lot of information, but I promise that these tools will help you manage your own work better, and will help you get what you need from me (and others) to get things done. *CHECK-INS* I’d like you each to schedule a one-hour meeting with me (to occur before DATE). Please send me an agenda for this the day before our meeting so I have time to reflect on it as well. Here’s a sample agenda <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d14f6e75581b6d765…> to use as a template. We’ll have these check-ins weekly (please be in charge of ensuring that that happens!). This week, we’ll review the other action items listed in this email, as well as cover the other topics listed in the template. *MOCHA* MOCHA may sound like a delicious but pointless acronym, but it’s a way for everyone to be totally clear on his or her role within projects. The idea is that when there are a bunch of people involved in a project but a lack of clear roles, things can languish. But when roles are really clear, it’s easier to determine who’s responsible for driving things forward, what the next steps should be, who you need to get approvals from, and who you can turn to for help. And it’s super quick: *M: Manager*. This is the person managing the project. She guides the work and assigns responsibility. (This will often be me, but not always.) *O: Owner.* This is the person who truly owns the project, and is responsible for its success. *C: Consulted*. These are people who should be asked for input or need to be bought into the project. *H: Helper.* Helpers can help you out with some of the work. They may even be mini-owners of a small segment of the project. *A: Approver.* Approvers need to sign off on the work (or decisions about the work) before it’s final. So, as an example: [INSERT THE MOCHA YOU CREATED DURING TRAINING, AND EXPLAIN IT A BIT.] To help us get used to using this terminology, would you write a (very short) MOCHA describing a project that you are currently the owner of, including the roles you and others play in this project? We’ll discuss this MOCHA during our first check-in meeting and use it as a way to get us all familiar with this framework so that we can use it going forward. *REPEAT-BACKS* Possibly the weirdest thing I’ll ask you all to do (often) is called the Repeat-Back. It’s exactly what it sounds like it is: after we discuss what success looks like for a project, and we’ve agreed on the next steps, I’ll ask you to just repeat everything back to me to make sure we’re on the same page. This may be awkward at first, but I promise that if we try it for a few weeks, it will help us spot areas where I haven’t been clear or we’re on different pages or we just need to clarify something. (Feel free to ask me for a repeat-back too! If you need something from me to advance your work, this will help us make sure we’re on the same page about what I’m getting it you and when.) *THE DEBRIEF* When a big project or event is finally done, I know as well as anyone that it’s tempting to immediately move on to the next one and leave the past in a metaphorical dust cloud. But I’d love us to do a better job of talking about recently completed work and reflect on what went well, what could have gone better, and what lessons we can take away for the future. So, please schedule a 15-minute meeting with me to debrief on a recently completed project – or add it in the agenda for our next check-in. I’m really excited about having more structured reflection on how our work is going – and especially on things that have gone really well that I might not know about from the outside. *GOALS* I’d like to us to have more clarity around our goals for this year, individually and as a team – in order to get aligned about where we will (and won’t) put our energy and what concrete markers we’ll use to measure success. Specifically, I’d like us to all to create *SMART goals *that we’ll use to drive our work*. *Here’s a quick rundown of what “SMART” stands for: *S: Strategic*. Does the goal reflect an important dimension of what we seek to accomplish? *M: Measurable*. How will you know when you’ve accomplished the goal? This doesn’t need to be a bunch of numbers, but should be a standard by which reasonable people can agree on whether the goals has been met. *A: Ambitious*. Is the goal challenging enough that achieving it would mean significant progress? *R: Realistic*. Is this something we really can do? Do we have a plan to achieve it and know what it will take in terms of resources and time? *T: Time-Bound.* Is there a clear deadline? OPTIONAL ADDITION: For instance, one goal I wrote for myself during the training is [INSERT EXAMPLE GOAL]. To get the ball rolling on this, I’d like you to select one of your goals for this year and evaluate it using the SMART model. Does the goal, as you understand it, meet all of those specifications? If not, can you reframe it so it does (and, in doing so, do you feel like it’s a stronger goal)? By [DATE], please send me your musings on the goal you’ve examined or raise it with me one-on-one. This need not be formal; something in the body of an email is fine. If you get stuck … well, then, raise that with me that too! *ACTION ITEMS FOR EVERYONE* To sum up, here’s what I’d like you to do: 1. Schedule a check-in meeting with me by DATE and send me an agenda for check-in the day before the meeting. 2. Use MOCHA to assign roles to a project YOU own (we’ll review at the check-in meeting). 3. Schedule a debriefing meeting for a current project or include it on your agenda for our next check-in. 4. SMART-ify at least one goal and email to me by DATE. Thank you in advance for spending some time on these new ideas with me, and absolutely feel free to ask me any questions you have about any of this! [SIGNED] Best, The Management Center You are receiving this email because you signed up for our newsletter list through our website (www.managementcenter.org), a Management Center training, or a book order. <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=d14f6e75581b6d765…> Forward <http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=d14f6e75581b6d76530f3d084&id=264…> this email to a friend | Update your profile <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage1.com/profile?u=d14f6e75581b6d76530f…> Unsubscribe <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=d14f6e75581b6d765…> aniola(a)gmail.com from this list. Our mailing address is: The Management Center 1710 Rhode Island Ave. NW Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20036 Add us to your address book <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/vcard?u=d14f6e75581b6d76530f3d0…> Copyright (C) 2017 The Management Center All rights reserved.

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Bike!Bike! workshop on local coalition building
by Aida Mas Baghaie 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Hello Think Tank! On behalf of the AMS Bike Co-op / Bike Kitchen in Vancouver I’m wondering if anyone planning on attending Bike!Bike! this year has interest in co-facilitating a workshop on coalition building. This workshop may be of interest to folks from cities or regions with multiple community bike shops looking to form coalitions (or already have) to help manage resources between shops. We will be showing off our shiny new Vancouver Community Bike Shop Network and brainstorming ways to create similar groups where needed and appropriate, and troubleshooting some of the finer details. Please e-mail me if you are interested in co-facilitating and if it’s a good fit we can make this workshop even more sweet! Looking forward to seeing y'all at Bike!Bike! <3 aida

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Bike station tool kits
by Luis Fernandez 14 Aug '17

14 Aug '17

Hi all, Been lurking the list for a while - stoked that I have a reason to post. It's a great list, and I appreciate all I've learned from it in lurking silence so far... I'm a member of the Somerville Bike Kitchen in (currently) sunny Massachusetts (www.somervillebikekitchen.org). We have a full set of bike tools for most possible repairs and all of them, including basic tools are hanging on a peg board for people to grab as needed. We are considering building up tool kits that have basic tools that can be attached to a particular stand or handed off to someone working on their bike outside that will cover most of the basic tasks. If someone needs a more obscure/expensive tool, or a tool that might require more guidance to use (cone wrenches, freewheel tools, chainwhips, etc) they can still come grab it as needed I have 2 basic questions: 1) What is the set of tools that you would hand someone to get started on a basic repair of their bike. (Keeping in mind that more specialized tools are readily available a few steps away.)? Basically, which are the tools we should have kitted to avoid lots of foot traffic and reduce wasted time as people walk back into the shop for a basic tool that someone else may be using at the time. here's the kind of kit I'm thinking of... a set of allen L keys in their own plastic holder a 3 way triangular park allen bike tool for basic things a set of box wrenches (perfect in a tool roll, so it's clear that there is a wrench missing if a slot is empty.) 2 tire levers 4 screw drivers, small flat head, large flathead, small phillips, large phillips pedal wrench? 2) what's the best way to keep this set of tools organized so that it's easy for someone to know that they've put the set back as they found it and not left something out accidentally. I'm thinking something like a well labelled tool roll. https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Organizer-Carrier- Storage-Pockets/dp/B071HBHXFR/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid= 1502398802&sr=8-6&keywords=tool+roll How do you all handle this sort of thing? thanks, Luis ps - also, who here has cool stickers? Anyone interested in a bike coop sticker share?

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Advice on laying out new premises.
by Geoffrey Smart 14 Aug '17

14 Aug '17

We are moving our workshop from 2 single garages in a city council owned compound to a larger tin shed on the other side of the yard. Size is around 12 metres(40') x 8 metres (26.5') with a 3 metre (10') sliding door two thirds of the way along the longer wall leading out on to an asphalt compound. We have ideas on how we would like to set it up for the maximum amount of usable workspace and storage but it would be great to have any pictures and plans of how other workshops have set up their operations, specifically those of a similar size. We also welcome ideas on what works well and what mistakes others have made paritcularly in regard to storage and work stations. To give you an idea of our activities which are relevant to the layout. We recycle bikes with volunteers who are all adults, sell some and donate others. We also run 6 week maintenance classes. We occasionally have school excursions attend. Except for cheap rent from council we are totally self supporting from bike sales and classes. Please post your ideas. If you have plans and photos you would like to share please email us at :- back2bikes.portmelbourne(a)gmail.com Geoff Smart Back2Bikes

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 131, Issue 1
by Lawrence Mohammed 12 Aug '17

12 Aug '17

Good idea Luis! I'd add another tyre lever to make this three per set I'd 'shadow board' the tool roll (white permanent marker pen outline around each tool - easy to see if anything is missing or misplaced) Regarding 'How do you all handle this sort of thing?' - do you mean physically? how about a strap sewn onto reinforced edges of each tool roll (making a carry handle) -- Warmest regards, *Lawrence Mohammed* Director/Head Mechanic *+44 (0)77 222 58587* *probikeservice.co.uk <https://probikeservice.co.uk>* *facebook.com/probikeservice <https://www.facebook.com/professionalbikeservice>* /[Location, NOT delivery address] Pro Bike Service C.I.C. Mobile Garden City Olympic Village London E20 1GW/ On 11/08/17 21:10, thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Bike station tool kits (Luis Fernandez) > 2. Re: Advice on laying out new premises. (Angel York) > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… / /

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Youth Bike Summit - Register Today <3
by Pasqualina Azzarello 30 Jul '17

30 Jul '17

Hi All, The early bird rates for the Youth Bike Summit will be coming to a close this *Tuesday August 1* - we encourage you to register today! Early bird rates are $25/youth (10-24) and $50/adult (25+) and include the three-day conference and most meals. See more info below: *When:* October 6-8, 2017 *Where: *Arlington, VA // Washington, DC *Hosted by:* Phoenix Bikes *Event Schedule:* https://youthbikesummit.org/2017-event-schedule/ *Registration & Accommodations:* https://youthbikesummit.org/registrationlodging/ Let us know if you have any questions - see you at the Youth Bike Summit! Best, Pasqualina -- *Pasqualina Azzarello* Director, Youth Bike Summit Website <https://youthbikesummit.org/> | Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/youthbikesummit/?fref=ts> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/youthbikesummit> | Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/youthbikesummit/> @youthbikesummit #YBS17 *SAVE THE DATE! * *Youth Bike Summit* Hosted by Phoenix Bikes in Arlington, VA October 6 - 8, 2017 // Arlington, VA / Washington, DC

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Ride needed to BikeBike and back from Chicago
by waymond smith 29 Jul '17

29 Jul '17

Hello everyone, I have a friend who wants to attend BikeBike in Winnipeg in August. My friend is very active in community biking and has been "under the weather" for quite a while and is experiencing some difficulty in financially. I'm looking for someone who will be driving from Chicago to Winnipeg and is willing to take my friend, this person is very affable and outgoing. I will pick up the expenses in order for this person to attend. I will be attending, however I will be taking Amtrak to Fargo,ND and continuing the ride via bike. If any bike organizations or individuals are able to assist in this, please contact me privately. Thank you May Peace Go With You Waymond Smith waymondhsmith(a)gmail.com 773-972-4562

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Photos of Bike Shop spaces for BikeBike
by Ian Wassink 29 Jul '17

29 Jul '17

Hello, Hola, Bonjour! I intend to lead a workshop at Bike! Bike! on space layout/organization. Please help by sending me photos of your bike shop: 1) A photo of the tools/work bench/repair stand area, 2) A photo of the used parts area, 3) A photo of the bulletin board, chalk board, or white board area, 4) Any other photos. Photos can be Emailed to: ianwassink(a)gmail.com and can be of any quality even from a cell phone. Ian Wassink

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by Daniel Silverman 28 Jul '17

28 Jul '17

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Advice on laying out new premises
by Geoffrey Smart 28 Jul '17

28 Jul '17

Hi All, I would like to thank all the people so far who have replied with suggestions on new premises. We have taken ideas from everyone who has replied both here and directly to myself. When we finish moving which may take a while I will post pictures and a link and I am sure everyone will see some idea that they have contributed. Geoff Smart Back2Bikes Port Melbourne Australia

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 130, Issue 16
by Lawrence Mohammed 27 Jul '17

27 Jul '17

Hi Geoff I've just setup new premises in a self-converted 30ft x 10ft shipping container in the Olympic Park, London, UK. I visited Condor Cycles, Cloud 9 Cycles, Soho Cycles and a few others that are deemed the best of the best in London to ask if I could photo their workshops and get advice. All were very helpful and because my business runs on a gift economy and open source, all were happy for me to photo their workshops and talk me through what worked and why. What I found: * vertical storage (if safe and you have height) good * keeping only what is needed most to hand, the rest further away (minimal movement wasted) * dedicated bench/toolboard for facing/setting tools with a grinding wheel (if possible) and heavy bench vice * lots of space needed to store completed bikes/bikes awaiting service? Make a scaffolding rail & use meathooks - slide the bikes like clothes on a clothing rail! * double-sided stands are brilliant for frame swapouts and saving space (if you have the width) * paint benches and tool/shadowboards black - easy to find tools, looks good, stays looking good even when dirty * PVC piping with angle bend is a great way of storing cable inners! What I also did * long shipping containers are dark - I installed a 2.5kW solar system on the roof for internal LED spots and striplights - make sure benches are well lit and lit in a way as to avoid glare * I didn't have budget for proper storage and benches so bought cheap 2nd hand stackable plastic storage bin boxes and built benches from plywood to exactly fit these (with 1/2" gap around each) * Benches with tops deeper than the bench width means you can get your feet right up to the bench * Used a few interior design tricks to make the space appear bigger - racks/storage mounted off the floor - white wherever possible (especially ceiling)....would have uplighters too if more power (our projects runs off-grid) Other thoughts * sliding doors? use this space for your safety posters and legal stuff (we need HSE posters, fire safety and company documentation displayed in UK) - or more storage if sliding mechanism can cope * ensure there is adequate space to move around - a good rule of thumb is 60cm-70cm gap * have a mix of new and parts used by volunteers/staff? colour code storage bins/boxes - one for old, one for new * easy clean/non-slip flooring is a worthy investment * parts washer great if you have chance to get one Warmest regards, *Lawrence Mohammed* Director/Head Mechanic *+44 (0)77 222 58587* *probikeservice.co.uk <https://probikeservice.co.uk>* *facebook.com/probikeservice <https://www.facebook.com/professionalbikeservice>* /[Location, NOT delivery address] Pro Bike Service C.I.C. Mobile Garden City Olympic Village London E20 1GW/ On 25/07/17 21:11, thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Advice on laying out new premises. (Geoffrey Smart) > 2. Re: Advice on laying out new premises. (Jack Murphy) > 3. Re: Advice on laying out new premises. (Jean-Fran?ois Caron) > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… / /

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Hiring! The Bicycle Collective (Utah) is hiring a f/t Location Director in St. George
by christos brewster 27 Jul '17

27 Jul '17

Dxdd On 26 Jul 2017 at 23:32, <Clint Watsoern <clint(a)bicyclecollective.org>> wrote: We're super excited to announce that we've partnered with the City of St. George, Utah, to begin our 5th brick and mortar location of the Bicycle Collective and we're hiring a f/t Location Director to manage it. The Bicycle Collective was founded in 2002 and has grown since then to include permanent satellite locations in Ogden, Provo, and Westminster College Campus, as well as our flagship shop in Salt Lake City. The St. George shop will be our 5th location and will have the models of satellite shops in Ogden and Provo to follow as it develops, as well as mentorship from the Executive Director and three Location Directors. We are confident in the success of the model we follow and have no doubt that with the right person in the job, the St. George Bicycle Collective will be effectively financially independent within two years while simultaneously offering all of our core programs to the community. St George is known locally as a retirement (snowbird) community, and for good reason. Temperatures range from 110 in July to 55 in January. While hot during the summer, the extreme temperatures last less than 3 months and the mild winters more than make up for it. We're anticipating that while the other shops experience slow periods from November-April, St. George BC will continue operations without much interruption. And it is a biking hotspot with hundreds of miles of MTB trails in the region as well as far stretching and low-traffic pavement through some of the most varied terrains in the country in all directions. The UDOT region covering St. George is known for spending more on bicycle infrastructure than any other region in Utah. And it's less than a 2 hour drive to Las Vegas, for what that's worth. This position is best suited to a candidate who works well with minimal direct supervision and who seeks an interesting challenge with freedom to carry out creative solutions to unforseeable challenges. Support will be available 24/7 from myself, many mentors, and local contacts, but with 4 hours of freeway between SLC and St. George, the Location Director will be working in something of an island. I, for one, would love that. I'm sure there are others on this list that would, too. Interested candidates should check out the attached job description and BC programs description. Instructions to apply are included. The position is open until filled, though we're hoping to have someone committed to the project within a month. Cheers and happy riding! Clint Watson Executive Director Bicycle Collective www.bicyclecollective.org clint(a)bicyclecollective.org *The mission of the Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.* ____________________________________ The ThinkTank mailing List Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o…

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Hiring! The Bicycle Collective (Utah) is hiring a f/t Location Director in St. George!
by Clint Watson 26 Jul '17

26 Jul '17

[Sorry if you're seeing this twice, I sent it once with attachments which triggered a filter.] We're super excited to announce that we've partnered with the City of St. George, Utah, to begin our 5th brick and mortar location of the Bicycle Collective and we're hiring a f/t Location Director to manage it. The Bicycle Collective was founded in 2002 and has grown since then to include permanent satellite locations in Ogden, Provo, and Westminster College Campus, as well as our flagship shop in Salt Lake City. The St. George shop will be our 5th location and will have the models of satellite shops in Ogden and Provo to follow as it develops, as well as mentorship from the Executive Director and three Location Directors. We are confident in the success of the model we follow and have no doubt that with the right person in the job, the St. George Bicycle Collective will be effectively financially independent within two years while simultaneously offering all of our core programs to the community. St George is known locally as a retirement (snowbird) community, and for good reason. Temperatures range from 110 in July to 55 in January. While hot during the summer, the extreme temperatures last less than 3 months and the mild winters more than make up for it. We're anticipating that while the other shops experience slow periods from November-April, St. George BC will continue operations without much interruption. And it is a biking hotspot with hundreds of miles of MTB trails in the region as well as far stretching and low-traffic pavement through some of the most varied terrains in the country in all directions. The UDOT region covering St. George is known for spending more on bicycle infrastructure than any other region in Utah. And it's less than a 2 hour drive to Las Vegas, for what that's worth. This position is best suited to a candidate who works well with minimal direct supervision and who seeks an interesting challenge with freedom to carry out creative solutions to unforseeable challenges. Support will be available 24/7 from myself, many mentors, and local contacts, but with 4 hours of freeway between SLC and St. George, the Location Director will be working in something of an island. I, for one, would love that. I'm sure there are others on this list that would, too. Interested candidates should check out the job description and BC programs description at https://bicyclecollective.org/salt-lake-latest/item/607-we-re-hiring-a-loca… Instructions to apply are included. The position is open until filled, though we're hoping to have someone committed to the project within a month. Cheers and happy riding! Clint Watson Executive Director Bicycle Collective www.bicyclecollective.org clint(a)bicyclecollective.org *The mission of the Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.*

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Hiring! The Bicycle Collective (Utah) is hiring a f/t Location Director in St. George
by Clint Watson 26 Jul '17

26 Jul '17

We're super excited to announce that we've partnered with the City of St. George, Utah, to begin our 5th brick and mortar location of the Bicycle Collective and we're hiring a f/t Location Director to manage it. The Bicycle Collective was founded in 2002 and has grown since then to include permanent satellite locations in Ogden, Provo, and Westminster College Campus, as well as our flagship shop in Salt Lake City. The St. George shop will be our 5th location and will have the models of satellite shops in Ogden and Provo to follow as it develops, as well as mentorship from the Executive Director and three Location Directors. We are confident in the success of the model we follow and have no doubt that with the right person in the job, the St. George Bicycle Collective will be effectively financially independent within two years while simultaneously offering all of our core programs to the community. St George is known locally as a retirement (snowbird) community, and for good reason. Temperatures range from 110 in July to 55 in January. While hot during the summer, the extreme temperatures last less than 3 months and the mild winters more than make up for it. We're anticipating that while the other shops experience slow periods from November-April, St. George BC will continue operations without much interruption. And it is a biking hotspot with hundreds of miles of MTB trails in the region as well as far stretching and low-traffic pavement through some of the most varied terrains in the country in all directions. The UDOT region covering St. George is known for spending more on bicycle infrastructure than any other region in Utah. And it's less than a 2 hour drive to Las Vegas, for what that's worth. This position is best suited to a candidate who works well with minimal direct supervision and who seeks an interesting challenge with freedom to carry out creative solutions to unforseeable challenges. Support will be available 24/7 from myself, many mentors, and local contacts, but with 4 hours of freeway between SLC and St. George, the Location Director will be working in something of an island. I, for one, would love that. I'm sure there are others on this list that would, too. Interested candidates should check out the attached job description and BC programs description. Instructions to apply are included. The position is open until filled, though we're hoping to have someone committed to the project within a month. Cheers and happy riding! Clint Watson Executive Director Bicycle Collective www.bicyclecollective.org clint(a)bicyclecollective.org *The mission of the Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.*

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 130, Issue 7
by Geoff Heath 24 Jul '17

24 Jul '17

For those planning to ride up or drive up to Bike!Bike! via middle-Americaland we've got some contacts in Fargo and Minneapolis who can help advise on who is coming and going when, such that y'all might link up and/or have some resources about staying in Fargo or Minne. Contact Sara in Fargo sarawatsoncurry(a)gmail.com Or Casey in Minneapolis casey(a)thehubbikecoop.biz Heads up; the ride north from the border to Winnipeg along Hwy 59 is kinda meh and the last time I did it along Hwy 59 (11 years ago now...) the road was pretty crappy with no shoulder. Hwy 216 might be better but I haven't ever rode it south of Grunthal. That said the ride from Minneapolis to Thief river falls is fantastic with lots of beautiful paved rail trails. I'll try to gather more intel on an ideal route in the coming weeks. Look forward to see y'all here in Wpg! Geoff Geoff Heath, Mechanical Director The Winnipeg Repair Education N' Cycling Hub 1057 Logan Ave. Winnipeg, MB R3E 3N8 Treaty 1 Territory, Homeland of the Metis Nation http://www.thewrench.ca On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:02 PM, < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bike!Bike! 2017 Registration is open! (Anne Duggan) > 2. Re: Bike!Bike! 2017 Registration is open! (Matt Ford) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:36:58 -0500 > From: Anne Duggan <annem.duggan(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: Angel York <aniola(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike!Bike! 2017 Registration is open! > Message-ID: <6E31BDB6-D763-4FB8-814C-0EF5907BF41B(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Last year, in Detroit, one of the North Dakotans mentioned a group ride up > to Winnipeg. Are you still up for this? > > Anne from Iowa > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jul 9, 2017, at 5:33 PM, "judith.feist(a)gmail.com" < > judith.feist(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Woot! Just registered! Coming via Detroit. Excited to hopefully see some > familiar faces and meet new amazing folks! See you soon in August! > > Judith Feist > > > > ------ Original message------ > > From: Angel York > > Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 2:57 PM > > To: The Think Tank; > > Cc: > > Subject:Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike!Bike! 2017 Registration is open! > > > > These links won't make a stop at Facebook: > > > > Registration for Bike!Bike! Winnipeg is open! https://en.bikebike.org/ > > > > Inscription pour Bike!bike! Winnipeg est ouvert! > https://fr.bikebike.org/ > > > > Registrar por Bike!Bike! Winnipeg aqui! https://es.bikebike.org/ > > > >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Geoff Heath <mech(a)thewrench.ca> wrote: > >> Hey Peoples > >> > >> Registration for Bike!Bike! Winnipeg is open! https://en.bikebike.org/ > >> > >> Inscription pour Bike!bike! Winnipeg est ouvert! > https://fr.bikebike.org/ > >> > >> Registrar por Bike!Bike! Winnipeg aqui! https://es.bikebike.org/ > >> > >> There are plenty of details on the specifics of the conference (how to > get to Winnipeg, post B!B! ride, etc) under the "details" tab on the B!B! > website. > >> > >> Hope to see y'all here soon! > >> > >> Geoff Heath, Executive Director, Mechanical > >> The Winnipeg Repair Education N' Cycling Hub > >> 1057 Logan Ave. Winnipeg, MB R3E 3N8 > >> Treaty 1 Territory, Homeland of the Metis Nation > >> http://www.thewrench.ca > >> > >> ____________________________________ > >> > >> The ThinkTank mailing List > >> > >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. > org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > >> > >> > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. > org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > >

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Topeka Community Cycle Project Seeks Education and Outreach Coordinator
by Andy Fry 20 Jul '17

20 Jul '17

Please send questions, letters of interest and resumes to andy(a)cycleproject.org or call 785-380-9827 Thanks! Topeka Community Cycle Project Job Description - Education, Outreach, and Advocacy Coordinator Time Commitment: 20 hours/week, three-month probationary period Compensation: $13.75 hourly Reports to: President, Board of Directors Responsibilities: The Education, Outreach and Advocacy Coordinator will be responsible for overseeing all the activities happening at or near the Topeka Community Cycle Project, at 801 NE Poplar. This person’s responsibilities will include, but may not be limited to, BLAST support and enhancement, bicycle safety educator, public outreach coordinator and local advocate for bicycling access and infrastructure. Any responsibilities listed here may be delegated if an appropriate party is identified. BLAST Support and Enhancement- providing support to PE instructors in implementing BLAST curriculum and implementing trailer and bike fleet scheduling to maximize use and availability of BLAST resources to Topeka and Shawnee County. Bicycle Safety Educator- providing educational programming and bicycle promotional events to spur bicycling activity by “interested, but concerned” potential bicycle riders; enhancing access and bicycle ridership in Topeka. Public Outreach Coordinator- providing educational and bicycle resources in remote and community hubs where there is interest in the community. Bringing bicycles and best safety practices to the neighborhoods of Topeka and Shawnee County through grassroots and community events and community locations. Local Advocate- participating in community discussions, committees on active transportation, bicycling and active wellness pursuits. Also reaching beyond traditional bicycle specific discussions and attending MTPO and other meetings and public forums to integrate bicycle perspectives into a larger transportation and city planning and development discussion . Skills necessary: -LCI certification: ability to complete League of American Bicyclists Traffic Skills and LCI Certification, as it’s offered, within 6 months. -Familiarity with current social media platforms and Microsoft Office and Adobe products -Comfort with speaking in front of groups and presenting new ideas in a group setting. -Coordinating and engaging volunteers, in addition to a willingness to help in seeking funds to keep the position and organization sustained on a perpetual basis.

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