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Bike Winterizing Resources
by Samuel 14 Nov '13

14 Nov '13

Hi folks, I'm trying to put together a riding in winter workshop at the Bike Library and was wondering if anyone knew of any resources I could draw on. Has anyone has success with this sort of thing in the past? Any thoughts on what sort of stuff should be covered? We're in Iowa, so I was planning on focusing on studded tires, fenders, cleaning and lubing regularly, and dressing for the weather. Any other ideas on stuff to cover? Thanks Sam, Iowa City Bike Library www.bikelibrary.org

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Call tomorrow: sales for community bike shops
by Mary Lauran Hall 12 Nov '13

12 Nov '13

Hi folks! Tomorrow we're hosting a call on community bike shop sales -- various shops' practices for using upcycled bikes as a revenue model, point of sale logistics, avoiding stepping on toes of local bike shops, eBay, and lots more. See below for deets. Three panelists will be on to discuss how sales work at their shops, then we'll have room for discussion. Hope you can join us! Mary Lauran *Sales for Community Bike Shops* *Wednesday, November 13, 2013* *2:00 PM to 3:00 PM eastern* *Register online here <http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/EventRegistration-…>* Selling new and reclaimed bike components and accessories is an important part of many community bike shops' models. On this call, leaders from community bike shop will talk in-depth about their shops' practices for sales, including point of sale software, permissions, and price policies. Panelists will include: - *Henry Dunbar*, Executive Director, Phoenix Bikes (Arlington, VA) - *Davey Davis*, Executive Director, Bicycle Collective (Salt Lake City) - *Karen Overton*, Executive Director, Recycle-A-Bicycle (NYC) [image: Register button]<http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/EventRegistration-…> -- Mary Lauran Hall Communications Manager Alliance for Biking & Walking mlhall(a)peoplepoweredmovement.org (202) 642 - 6617 P.O. Box 65150 Washington, DC 20035 www.peoplepoweredmovement.org Twitter <https://twitter.com/bikewalk> | Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/peoplepoweredmovement>| Instagram <http://instagram.com/bikewalk> | Flickr<http://www.flickr.com/photos/thunderheadalliance> *Win dollars for local transportation. Check out Advocacy Advance's new report on passing bicycle and pedestrian ballot measures. <http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/blog/4677/>*

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free?
by Vernon Huffman 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

It is quite rare for a person to be injured because of the condition of a bicycle. Perhaps they'll have to ride slower or stop. Riding in traffic or over rough surfaces can be dangerous no matter what condition the bike is in. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know of any case where a bike shop was successfully sued for damages from a bike accident. On Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:58 PM, "thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org" <thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free? (james bledsoe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:01:42 -0800 (PST) From: james bledsoe <jamesbleds0e(a)yahoo.com> To: mike r <rozdol(a)yahoo.com>, The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free? Message-ID: <1384113702.52517.YahooMailNeo(a)web140803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Could the collection be done has effectively without the Big Ten guys? ? On Saturday, November 9, 2013 3:42 PM, mike r <rozdol(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hello, I'm in NY the "litigation state" and am trying to get my former employer, a BIG Ten employer to organize a bike collection event at their local manufacturing facility. The company has DEEP pockets so they get concerned about the potential for liability in the event that a donated bike ends up injuring someone due to defects that existed when it was donated, or that occurred when it was repaired before it was given away. Let me know your experience with this, from legal prospective, please don't reply with complaints about the "system" as we all know the system s**ks! Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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english/spanish bike repair zine/book
by the holla 09 Nov '13

09 Nov '13

Hey all, I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? thank you! Diana -- come disconnect the dots with me, poppet.

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Mission Statement Discussion on Loomio
by Darren Knox 06 Nov '13

06 Nov '13

Hey just a reminder y'all. We're having a discussion re: establishing a mission/values statement for bike!bike! If you're invested in the conference and the community bike shop world please participate in the conversation here: https://www.loomio.org/ discussions/7933 Here's what we have so far: The mission of B!B! is to foster growth and sustainability among community bicycle projects. B!B! provides a venue for community bike projects from around the world to network and “cross pollinate” to share ideas and tactics for (building a stronger and wider network of community bicycle projects). Since bike bike has no formal structure, this is entirely an "opt-in" consensus process (bike bike actually has no established decision making process so we're defaulting to consensus). Thus your input is INVALUABLE! Also, if you know of someone who might want to put in their 2c that isn't on FB or the Think Tank, please invite them to the discussion! Darren -- Volunteer Coordinator, Shop Coordinator www.therecyclery.org 7628 N. Paulina ▪ Chicago, IL 60626 ▪ 773.262.5900 *The Recyclery Collective seeks to build community through the restoration of donated and discarded bicycles.* Donate <http://www.therecyclery.org/donate> or volunteer!<http://www.therecyclery.org/volunteer>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 87, Issue 2
by jalaparoy＠gmail.com 06 Nov '13

06 Nov '13

Diana: There are excelente videos on YouTube from Spain from a store calles “Mamoth”, as well as a Google search which will give you lote of results. Roy “El Gringo Jalapeño” Pro-Ciclismo Xalapa México Enviado desde Correo de Windows De: thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Enviado el: ‎martes‎, ‎5‎ de ‎noviembre‎ de ‎2013 ‎03‎:‎23‎ ‎p. m. Para: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. english/spanish bike repair zine/book (the holla) 2. Re: english/spanish bike repair zine/book (Angelo Coletta) 3. Re: english/spanish bike repair zine/book (Dax Burgos) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:14:14 -0800 From: the holla <dholla(a)gmail.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: [TheThinkTank] english/spanish bike repair zine/book Message-ID: <CACZnU=2Jwp0NwV5p9e=4=bkv3gdMGQvcbqCDb0nkg-RrjuS92g(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey all, I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? thank you! Diana -- come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:55:39 -0800 (PST) From: Angelo Coletta <summitcyclingcenter(a)yahoo.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] english/spanish bike repair zine/book Message-ID: <1383663339.20343.YahooMailNeo(a)web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ciao Diana I give you two sources:? bemi.free.fr/biciklo????? and?????? www,parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=152 ? BTW- Was that holla for help or hola for hello?? I confess to a pang of envy.? I have a thing for human powered machines.? It would be a lot of fun to read about your experiences.? Please keep me in your loop via blog, email, facebook, or other means. Regards Angelo L. Coletta ? On Monday, November 4, 2013 9:15 PM, the holla <dholla(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hey all, I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? thank you! Diana -- come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 07:56:52 -0700 From: Dax Burgos <manager(a)communitycycles.org> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] english/spanish bike repair zine/book Message-ID: <CAHnRhomVWiYCvMojbbK=ibsG_c+3UbqTDW0WAHWcLpgFjGiH=Q(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sheldon brown website have English to Spanish translations for parts On Monday, November 4, 2013, the holla wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. > Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native > English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? > > thank you! > Diana > > -- > come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. > -- Dax Burgos Community Cycles 2805 Wilderness Pl 720-565-6019 manager(a)communitycycles.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… End of Thethinktank Digest, Vol 87, Issue 2 *******************************************

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Fw: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 86, Issue 55
by Matt VanSlyke 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

Lots of good thoughts here Vernon, thanks for taking the time to spell them out so clearly. Suffice it to say that we have thought about most of what you mentioned. We've borrowed a kit from our local AAA office that has worked okay in the past. But we need something more complete. I completely agree with you about the strict obedience issue. And it's why I continue to resist the urge to go the LCI route. We've learned from experience that strict application of traffic laws, especially for our inner city refugee teens, can often inadvertently make them targets for violent behavior and bike theft. Sometimes it isn't a good idea to stay on the right-hand side of the road and come to a complete stop at an empty intersection, like if there's a group of 6 older teens standing there staring at you and your bike. But that's what happens if we go too far in teaching these kids the rules of the road without adding some common sense into the mix. What we need, IMO, is a different type of bike safety/skills approach when teaching kids, particularly refugee and inner-city teens. The last thing any of us wants to do is have a kid spend his/her time earning a bike only to have it get them beat up and have the bike stolen. On the issue of safety training for deer.....I think the jury is still out. -Matt On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Vernon Huffman <vernonhuffman(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > Please consider your goals and objectives carefully as you plan, Matt. We > use bike rodeos to encourage more people to ride, recognizing that more > cyclists on the streets make all of us safer. Thus our primary objective is > to give people confidence in their ability to ride safely. Promoting safe > practices is secondary. We make sure everybody who tries succeeds, > hopefully learning some skills in the process. Our bike rodeos are not > competitions, because we don't want anybody to lose, though we provide a > venue for those who want to display awesome skills. > > A fundamental skill worth focus is the ability to look back over the left > shoulder (right in UK) while maintaining a straight line. We also emphasize > riding slowly, by requiring those who finish the course too quickly to do > it again more slowly. We know it takes less skill to maneuver a bike > quickly. > > Very few materials are essential. Portable road stripes (or paint) and > cones can be handy for setting up the course. A double ended ramp might be > a nice touch. A printed certificate of completion and safety take-home are > valuable. Free lights, reflectors, pant clips, and safety vests are nice > handouts. Posters can communicate the importance of holding your line a > safe distance out from the door zone and other obstacles on the right side > of the road. Help participants to understand that cowering on the shoulder > is not a safe riding style and that more cyclists are hit on sidewalks than > on the street. > > There's a lot of controversy around helmets. Yes, they reduce skull > fractures from first impact if worn correctly, though they do nothing to > prevent concussion and slightly increase neck injury. The risk is that > telling people that bike riding is dangerous reduces the number of people > willing to cycle and thus makes cycling more dangerous. More people suffer > head injuries in automobiles than on bikes. Make them wear the damn > helmets. The main thing that will really improve safety is fewer cars. > > I also refuse to instruct cyclists to honor all laws or "drive their bike > like a car." Traffic rules are designed to protect all users of the road > from the threat of motor vehicles. Cyclists should understand the risks and > ride defensively, without threatening other cyclists or pedestrians. > Stopping at every stop sign merely increases vulnerability. Learn to > maneuver away from threats. Stop when necessary. Be prepared to ditch your > bike to the right if cut off; it could save your life. > > Since cyclists cannot be licensed, motorists should not expect them to > behave predictably. 75-90% of car-bike accidents are caused by the motorist > even if you expect bikes to comply with laws and none of them would happen > if there were no cars. China didn't have a universal traffic code before > 1955 because they didn't need regulations when everybody rode bikes. > Holland has become much safer as they transitioned from cars toward bikes. > Hold out for a car-free future! > > If cyclists learn to comply with their rules, will they then demand safety > training for deer? > > Thank you for working to make cycling safer for all of us. > > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:08 PM, > > ThinkTank: > I am writing a grant to fund the purchase of a kit to set up and conduct > bike rodeos community-wide. Can anyone point me in a good direction so that > I can develop an itemized list of needed supplies and costs? I have a good > idea of what we need but I want to include a very detailed budget with > specific items included. > > I think I remember seeing some info on the Wiki but that's obviously an > issue right now due to the malware situation. Anyone have a good source? > > Thanks, > Matt > > > -- > *Matt VanSlyke* > *Utica Bike Rescue* > *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* > *315.525.9554* > *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* > *www.uticabikerescue.org* > *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* > *Learn. Earn. Ride.* >

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malware on bikecollectives.org?
by Tom Bulten 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

I'm getting a malware warning when I visit bikecollectives.org. Does anyone know the status of the site? http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://www.bikecollectiv… Tom Oakdale Neighbors 1260 Kalamazoo SE Grand Rapids, MI 49507 www.oakdaleneighbors.org 616-248-2848 "Like" Oakdale Neighbors on Facebook. Join our Facebook Group. Connect on Nextdoor.

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Anti-oppression policies?
by christopher＠holisticcycles.com 25 Oct '13

25 Oct '13

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Promo Stickers
by troy neiman 25 Oct '13

25 Oct '13

Like Josh said, we get our stickers, t-shirts, posters and anything printed from http://peacesupplies.org/. Dwight has been doing this for a long time and also has been on our board at BICAS for about 20 years. The vinal stickers are great and we have had bikes recycled through our shop for many generations now and many have generations of Peace supplies stickers on them. The reflective stickers are super visible and do not come off easy. I also like the clear back stickers. Even if you are not wanting to mass produce you can skim the huge selection of awesome art they have collected over the years at http://worldsbestbikestickers.com/. I cant say enough about what these folks have done for BICAS, Earthfirst, and countless other organizations and movements over the past couple of decades. Check it out. Troy Neiman BICAS Tucson AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: sheldon mains Sent: 10/23/13 07:32 PM To: The Think Tank Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Promo Stickers anyone else get what may bet the worst marketing email in history from "FLIR"--a consulting group .............. Sheldon Mains SPOKES Bike Walk Connect http://www.SpokesConnect.org http://www.fb.com/SpokesConnect On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Jesse Cooper < jessecooper0(a)gmail.com > wrote: Hey gang! Our Community Bikes has been getting our stickers done at Fleming Decal (http://www.flemingdecal.com/ ). We usually order vanilla die cut on 3m reflective but also nice reflective. Its cheaper if it's not die cut and just comes in a sheet. We're happy with them. Super durable . On 2013-10-21 9:19 PM, "Joshua Muir" < muirjoshua(a)gmail.com > wrote: If it hasn't been mentioned yet- don't forget Dwight in Tucson with Peace Supplies- he's been printing stickers and more for Bicas for many years and does great work. Josh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:18 PM, the holla < dholla(a)gmail.com > wrote: Bike Punk http://www.bikepunk.com/ in Portland has ridiculously good quality stickers. It's all eco whatever so pricier, but since they're bikey you might be able to get a discount. Diana On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Andrew L < breathingplanet(a)gmail.com > wrote: We use sticker robot and have no complaints.... Ps: t-shirt plug! http://troybikerescue.org/shirts On Oct 21, 2013 7:33 AM, "mike.pattisall" < mike.pattisall(a)velocitycoop.org > wrote: We use Sticker You in Toronto. The colors on the solid back are more vibrant on dark color bikes than the clear back surface.http://stickeryou.com On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Ainsley Naylor < needleandthread(a)gmail.com > wrote: Bike Pirates has been trying to source a high quality sticker to put on our bikes that we build and also to use for general promotions (take a sticker! Put it on your agenda or a bathroom stall!). We ordered some from a company in Vancouver about 3 years ago and weren't completely satisfied with the quality. They were weatherproof but the clear laminate layer on top wasn't super durable and could be scratched off pretty easily. So we are looking for a different company, preferably in Canada. If anyone has any expereince or suggestions we'd love to hear feedback. We ran out of stickers last month and need to get moving on this. OCB in Vancouver has always had really fantastic stickers and I don't know where they get them from. Thanks, Ainsley (Bike Pirates, Toronto) _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- Mike Pattisall http://velocitycoop.org/ http://delrayretrocycle.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… --come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- Joshua Muir muirjoshua(a)gmail.com Frances Cycles http://www.francescycles.com/ Handbuilt cycling framesets Touring, Track, Road,Cross, and Cargo 203 Cedar St Santa Cruz, CA (831) 469-3369 tel:%28831%29%20469-3369 The Bicycle Church Collective http://bikechurch.santacruzhub.org/ Community Self-Service Cycle Repair 3pm to 7pm everyday except Sunday 703 Pacific Ave (enter on Spruce St) Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (831) 425-2453 tel:%28831%29%20425-2453 _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Promo Stickers
by Ainsley Naylor 24 Oct '13

24 Oct '13

Bike Pirates has been trying to source a high quality sticker to put on our bikes that we build and also to use for general promotions (take a sticker! Put it on your agenda or a bathroom stall!). We ordered some from a company in Vancouver about 3 years ago and weren't completely satisfied with the quality. They were weatherproof but the clear laminate layer on top wasn't super durable and could be scratched off pretty easily. So we are looking for a different company, preferably in Canada. If anyone has any expereince or suggestions we'd love to hear feedback. We ran out of stickers last month and need to get moving on this. OCB in Vancouver has always had really fantastic stickers and I don't know where they get them from. Thanks, Ainsley (Bike Pirates, Toronto)

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 86, Issue 42
by mike r 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Document Storage: An important thing to consider when storing documents is to maintain a document register so folks will know that they are viewing the most current revision of the document. This may be difficult to do in the various systems of storage and therefore the organization may want to also post a document that lists all of their posted document, and list the most current revision of each. Also each document should have a revision status included in it, and updated when the document changes. Cheers, Mike the bike guy, Troy Bike Rescue On Monday, October 21, 2013 1:23 AM, "thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org" <thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Organizing Documents Electronically? (Vincenzo loco) 2. Promo Stickers (Ainsley Naylor) 3. Re: Organizing Documents Electronically? (james bledsoe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:58:28 -0700 From: Vincenzo loco <wormsign(a)gmail.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Organizing Documents Electronically? Message-ID: <CABN3bQYXT0s6Oj9QNkWFio2+usXbWBmTifFjWr-XmwLKFi8B2g(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" won't speak to any particular process being the best, bikerowave is transitioning to google docs, we have data entry parties and things go a lot faster than you would think when 30 people are working through a stack. On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, momoko saunders <analyst(a)bikefarm.org>wrote: > *twinkle fingers* Dropbox. > > If you want some help, I don't mind having a long phone call with you as > tech support. > > -m > > > On Saturday, October 19, 2013, wrote: > >> I don't know the specifics of how google docs handles syncing but Dropbox >> is pretty nice for making docs available from any web browser (you'd need a >> password to get to it; it's not like your stuff would be publicly >> accessible) and syncing between computers. >> >> In a nutshell: >> 1. You create an account (free or pay for upgrades). >> 2. Jump through a few hoops to increase the free storage space. (Like >> them on Facebook, install the software, tweet about them, get a friend to >> sign up, several other relatively pain free hoops.) >> 3. Install the software in your computer and assigns shared folder. >> Invite other users(that warehouse computer, other shop employees, etc) and >> now that folder lives online but can be accessed by anyone who's been >> shared. >> 4. Anything you drop into the dropbox folder from THIS computer will be >> available in the same folder on THAT computer. >> 5. You can also generate download links for specific files, so that you >> could post a link to download a blank liability waiver, for example, >> without having to give access to the entire folder of shared stuff. >> >> I can't/won't speak to the actual process of making the merge from a 20 >> year old mishmash into a streamlined setup, but I will urge you to remember >> that it's taken 20 years to get to this point. It's probably not going to >> be a single weekend project getting it all sorted. >> Slow and steady winds the race. >> >> josh. >> >> >> On Saturday, October 19, 2013, allison karow wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> it's been a while since I posted to this list, I'm subscribing from a >>> different email address now but it's me, sunny! from vancouver / OCB, >>> formerly from phoenix / Bike Saviours. >>> >>> I have a question about making the switch from paper to electronic >>> documents. OCB has been around for 20 years, and we have a huge mish mash >>> of different systems for organizing our documents. The main three are: 1) a >>> huge pile of filing cabinets, 2) the hard drive on our computer (which >>> often doesnt match what's on the hard drive of our OTHER computer at our >>> warehouse), and 3) google docs, which does not match what's on either hard >>> drive and has to be constantly updated to reflect our ever-changing >>> policies, lists, minutes, etc. >>> >>> Basically, it's terribly confusing and nobody ever knows where to find >>> anything without asking the one or two people who have been with us the >>> longest. We need to use something that is stable and long-term. I'm >>> thinking google docs might still be the best thing, but I thought I'd fish >>> on here first. >>> >>> What I'm looking for is an online-system that can be synched up with our >>> hard drive (for back-up purposes), which can be accessed from any computer >>> and which can be categorized clearly and easily. I would like there to be a >>> section for every staff member's ongoing to-do lists, a section for meeting >>> minutes to be filed, a section for policy documents, etc. I would also like >>> to have a section for forms (such as conflict or incident reports) that can >>> be filled out as needed and filed online as well. >>> >>> Does anyone currently have a system that they like using for this? Any >>> input is appreciated. >>> >>> sunny >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > >

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 86, Issue 37
by David Warner 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Please remove me from this wiki. thanks -----Original Message----- From: thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org [mailto:thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org] On Behalf Of thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 12:04 PM To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 86, Issue 37 Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Donations from Businesses (wormsign(a)gmail.com) 2. Re: Donations from Businesses (Martin, Eric Vance) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 08:12:39 -0700 From: wormsign(a)gmail.com To: Angelo Coletta <summitcyclingcenter(a)yahoo.com>, The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Donations from Businesses Message-ID: <7E72EDE0-81A9-4632-BE82-7C83400AB546(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you are a non profit you give them a receipt, they fill it in with what they think it's worth. If the IRS thinks they lied or overvalued stuff it's on them. It's good for them to have a detailed inventory and be to be modest I they need to defend the number they came up with. Enzo Loconte Board Secretary Bikerowave On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Angelo Coletta <summitcyclingcenter(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I have the viewpoint that if an entity is NOT tax exempt (501c3), > donations are treated as income by the non-profit and the donor can > not deduct the value on their tax return. When donations are sold, > then the question is was it sold for market value, below or above? A > non profit can have taxable income if they do indeed have a real > profit. Even those who have tax exempt status can be taxed for > UBIT(Unrelated Business Income Tax), if they sell things that are > "unrelated" to their mission. Angelo > > > On Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:47 PM, Matthew VanSlyke <vanslyke.matthew(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Seems that the lesson learned here is....ask a pro when it comes to taxes. > Thanks All. > -Matt > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Lesa Franz <gadget_teer(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > they need to talk with there tax accountant > > Lesa Franz > Coatesville Community Bike Works > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 10, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Steven Bradley <stevencbradley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm not a CPA, Matt, but I'm pretty certain they can take actual value for their donations. Suggest an appraisal or other 3rd party valuation, though. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 10, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Matt VanSlyke <matt(a)uticabikerescue.org> wrote: >> >>> ThinkTank, >>> I have been trying to research this and I'm not really finding a complete answer. Perhaps some of you have personal experience/knowledge that can help. There is a bike shop in my City that has a stockpile of used bikes in a warehouse and they've expressed some interest in donating them to our community bike shop. Does anyone know specifically what the tax advantages are for the business that donates? I know how it works for individuals but I don't know how it works for a business. >>> >>> Does anyone have epxerience with this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Matt >>> >>> -- >>> Matt VanSlyke >>> Utica Bike Rescue >>> 714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502 >>> 315.525.9554 >>> matt(a)uticabikerescue.org >>> http://www.uticabikerescue.org/ >>> www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue >>> Learn. Earn. 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Organizing Documents Electronically?
by allison karow 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Hi all, it's been a while since I posted to this list, I'm subscribing from a different email address now but it's me, sunny! from vancouver / OCB, formerly from phoenix / Bike Saviours. I have a question about making the switch from paper to electronic documents. OCB has been around for 20 years, and we have a huge mish mash of different systems for organizing our documents. The main three are: 1) a huge pile of filing cabinets, 2) the hard drive on our computer (which often doesnt match what's on the hard drive of our OTHER computer at our warehouse), and 3) google docs, which does not match what's on either hard drive and has to be constantly updated to reflect our ever-changing policies, lists, minutes, etc. Basically, it's terribly confusing and nobody ever knows where to find anything without asking the one or two people who have been with us the longest. We need to use something that is stable and long-term. I'm thinking google docs might still be the best thing, but I thought I'd fish on here first. What I'm looking for is an online-system that can be synched up with our hard drive (for back-up purposes), which can be accessed from any computer and which can be categorized clearly and easily. I would like there to be a section for every staff member's ongoing to-do lists, a section for meeting minutes to be filed, a section for policy documents, etc. I would also like to have a section for forms (such as conflict or incident reports) that can be filled out as needed and filed online as well. Does anyone currently have a system that they like using for this? Any input is appreciated. sunny

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Donations from Businesses
by Matt VanSlyke 19 Oct '13

19 Oct '13

ThinkTank, I have been trying to research this and I'm not really finding a complete answer. Perhaps some of you have personal experience/knowledge that can help. There is a bike shop in my City that has a stockpile of used bikes in a warehouse and they've expressed some interest in donating them to our community bike shop. Does anyone know specifically what the tax advantages are for the business that donates? I know how it works for individuals but I don't know how it works for a business. Does anyone have epxerience with this? Thanks, Matt -- *Matt VanSlyke* *Utica Bike Rescue* *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* *315.525.9554* *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* *www.uticabikerescue.org* *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* *Learn. Earn. Ride.*

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Bike!Bike! open discussion of Non-Profit Status
by momoko saunders 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Dear Bike!Bike attendees and community bike project peoples! For 10 years, BB has been an entity without formal structure or organization. In many ways, this is part of what makes BB amazing. At the same time, BB is changing; the bike movement gains momentum; and the members and needs of community bike projects grow and shift. Over the past couple of years, members of the Bike!Bike! community have begun discussing the pros and cons of creating a non-profit entity to better support the mission and logistical feasibility of Bike!Bike! This discussion developed through open conversation during Bike!Bike! itself, and has continued remotely through the Bike!Bike! Working Group, an informal network of individuals committed to continuing this discussion between conferences. The goal of this work is not to graft a structure of authority onto the collective phenomenon of Bike!Bike!; rather, we want to work cooperatively toward developing a simple legal framework and shared toolkit that will make Bike!Bike! easier to attend, host, and replicate. Folks interested in contributing to this work are always encouraged to participate. *** In an effort to be transparent. I suggest we discuss this topic using the open source tool, Loomio.org <https://www.loomio.org/discussions/7933> . It is a software that came out of the occupy movement in New Zealand. It is built to help large groups with consensus discussion and decisions. It does mean another login and website :-( but I think it will be worth it. We will write monthly emails to the Thinktank and BikeBike Facebook page to invite people to review or join the discussion. Other options include google groups or a facebook group. Do other people have suggestions about technological tools that will help facilitate this conversation? What do you all think? -momoko

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We're FLYING Forward over here....
by Matthew VanSlyke 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Helloooooo ThinkTank'ers We are going flat out here in Utica and have made some real progress establishing Utica Bike Rescue....and we're totally pumped! We've got a permanent space, we're taking in donations of parts, bikes, cash, we have a few small contracts in the works to deliver maintenance/commuting/safety workshops on the college campuses here, we've got some grant apps in that we're hoping come through in the next few months and we are going to be surprising some very, very worthy kids and teenagers with "new-to-you" bikes this holiday season. Lots of other behind the scenes stuff is going on too but no one wants to know our EIN number or read our bylaws I'm sure. I want to take a minute to sincerely thank all of you who are on this listserv who have provided advice, resources and even bikes that we've turned around and redistributed (BIG thanks to TBR!!). We have good local resources that have really helped in establishing the organization and shop. But connecting with those of you I met in Long Beach last year and continuing to share ideas has been so, so helpful (another HUGE thank you to former SLC Collective staffer Johnathan Morrison!). I updated our organization info on the Bike!Bike! website 'Organizations' page: https://www.bikebike.org/organizations/UticaBikeRescue_%28Utica%29. Our website will be up and running in the next month or so. For now, please find us and Like us on Facebook -www.facebook.com/UticaBikeRescue Lots more good stuff to come from the heart of upstate!

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Bike Collective Wiki Site
by Ron Kellis 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Is anyone on this list involved with the http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page ? I'd like to propose the changes below but the member discussion page I posted on isn't generating a response. I hate to just start making a lot of duplicate posts in the blind. I suggest "Maintenance Classes" for patrons be added to Common Activities as it is different than "Mechanical Training." I've posted a draft outline of the VéloCity Bicycle Cooperative basic maintenance class under "Teaching Resources" but that is a sub-topic to "Earn-a-bike." Maintenance Classes for the general public are often offered by coops and on the list there has been some discussion of volunteer mechanical training. To me, a volunteer should know at a minimum what is taught in a basic maintenance class so they do tie together. I think a page for "Volunteer Training" might have value too. And change "Mechanical Training" to "Open Source Mechanic Training" Thanks for considering my suggestions. Ron

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We're FLYING Forward over here....
by Matthew VanSlyke 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Helloooooo ThinkTank'ers: We are going flat out here in Utica and have made some real progress establishing Utica Bike Rescue....and we're totally pumped! We've got a permanent space, we're taking in donations of parts, bikes, cash, we have a few small contracts in the works to deliver maintenance/commuting/safety workshops on the college campuses here, we've got some grant apps in that we're hoping come through in the next few months and we are going to be surprising some very, very worthy kids and teenagers with "new-to-you" bikes this holiday season. Lots of other behind the scenes stuff is going on too but no one wants to know our EIN number or read our bylaws I'm sure. I want to take a minute to sincerely thank all of you who are on this listserv who have provided advice, resources and even bikes that we've turned around and redistributed (BIG thanks to TBR!!). We have good local resources that have really helped in establishing the organization and shop. But connecting with those of you I met in Long Beach last year and continuing to share ideas has been so, so helpful (another HUGE thank you to former SLC Collective staffer Johnathan Morrison!). I updated our organization info on the Bike!Bike! website 'Organizations' page: https://www.bikebike.org/organizations/UticaBikeRescue_%28Utica%29. Our website will be up and running in the next month or so. For now, please find us and Like us on Facebook -www.facebook.com/UticaBikeRescue Lots more good stuff to come from the heart of upstate! -Matt -- *Matt VanSlyke* *Utica Bike Rescue* *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* *315.525.9554* *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* *www.uticabikerescue.org* *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* *Learn. Earn. Ride.*

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We're FLYING Forward over here....
by Matt VanSlyke 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Helloooooo ThinkTank'ers We are going flat out here in Utica and have made some real progress establishing Utica Bike Rescue....and we're totally pumped! We've got a permanent space, we're taking in donations of parts, bikes, cash, we have a few small contracts in the works to deliver maintenance/commuting/safety workshops on the college campuses here, we've got some grant apps in that we're hoping come through in the next few months and we are going to be surprising some very, very worthy kids and teenagers with "new-to-you" bikes this holiday season. Lots of other behind the scenes stuff is going on too but no one wants to know our EIN number or read our bylaws I'm sure. I want to take a minute to sincerely thank all of you who are on this listserv who have provided advice, resources and even bikes that we've turned around and redistributed (BIG thanks to TBR!!). We have good local resources that have really helped in establishing the organization and shop. But connecting with those of you I met in Long Beach last year and continuing to share ideas has been so, so helpful (another HUGE thank you to former SLC Collective staffer Johnathan Morrison!). I updated our organization info on the Bike!Bike! website 'Organizations' page: https://www.bikebike.org/organizations/UticaBikeRescue_%28Utica%29. Our website will be up and running in the next month or so. For now, please find us and Like us on Facebook - www.facebook.com/UticaBikeRescue Lots more good stuff to come from the heart of upstate! -- *Matt VanSlyke* *Utica Bike Rescue* *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* *315.525.9554* *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* *www.uticabikerescue.org* *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* *Learn. Earn. Ride.*

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Hand Drawn Diagrams of blown out bike parts
by momoko saunders 17 Oct '13

17 Oct '13

Hi, Can people please send me any PDFs or pictures of the hand drawn diagrams they have in their shops. I've had a lot of people ask me for these. If you don't have a pdf, just snap a photo with your phone! Email the pictures to merely32been(a)photos.flickr.com We can all see the diagrams here http://www.flickr.com/photos/93412361@N07/with/8494632542/ Thanks!! -momoko

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Anti-oppression policies?
by Samuel 17 Oct '13

17 Oct '13

Hi folks, I got our steering committee to agree to developing a written and posted anti-discrimination/anti-oppression policy (thought we had one but turns out not). Now I have to write one. Does anyone have an example from their collective they could share? Thanks Sam, Iowa City Bike Library

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Cycles for Change (St. Paul, MN) Hiring
by Jason Tanzman 16 Oct '13

16 Oct '13

Cycles for Change <http://www.cyclesforchange.org> (C4C) is a non-profit community bike shop working to educate and empower people to use bicycles as transportation. C4C offers a variety of free programs including Open Shop, Women's and Trans Night, Earn-a-Bike, and a Youth Apprenticeship. C4C is hiring a Shop and Programs Director - to learn more and consider applying, view the job description and application instructions here<http://www.minnesotanonprofits.org/job-details?id=72893>. This is a full-time, salaried position offering paid vacation and a health insurance stipend. This position is one of three staff co-Directors who share responsibility and decision-making authority over all shop/organizational operations and program strategy. Feel free to email me with any questions - but consider applying if you're interested in working for a grassroots, growing, community-connected bike non-profit! Women and people of color are strongly encouraged to apply. Jason -- Development and Communications Director 612-232-2737 (cell) 651-222-2080 (shop) www.cyclesforchange.org The mission of Cycles for Change is to be an open, accessible space to educate and empower people to use bicycles as transportation, helping to build a sustainable environment and community. Volunteer with us to help build a bicycling movement in the Twin Cities!

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Questionable customers
by Vernon Huffman 16 Oct '13

16 Oct '13

I believe we're in agreement, Joanne. Bicycles are a great tool for recovery. They save money and provide exercise. ________________________________ From: Joanne Mule Cash will always be a scarce resource, if one can learn a skill such as building a bike, it makes better use of the non-cash resources. We all have it tough in a tough economy. Even a drug addict can learn to use that skill and make the best of it. Addiction is a difficult habit to break. But outright stealing shows that they have no skill whatsoever nor any desire to right the wrong. Everyone has it rough from time to time. It is what we do during those times that can make us stronger. ________________________________ From: vernon huffman First off, we need to recognize that none of us is perfect and each of us has the capacity to do something worthwhile, even if life has been especially rough so far. I'm not here to judge anybody. If you're nice to me and help build the organization, we can work together. Then again, I'm a volunteer. I don't owe you anything. If you want help getting your ride together, you'd better be respectful to everybody around here. We want everybody to learn to fix bikes and apply that knowledge toward putting more bikes onto the streets. If you want to join in that effort, there's always room, but if you've got a bigger problem to deal with, go do that first.

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fiscal sponsorship
by Emily Strong 16 Oct '13

16 Oct '13

Hi everyone! I was wondering, do any of your projects have experience with fiscal sponsorship, either being a sponsor or seeking out sponsorship? I'm involved with a social ride group as well as a nonprofit community bike shop, and am looking into pursuing an arrangement where the ride group is sponsored by the bike shop. I'm hoping to write a grant to fund a program coordinator position that could then be shared between the shop and the ride group. Has anyone navigated anything similar to this before? I really appreciate any help/guidance you could give me! Thanks! Emily

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