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What I think they meant to say was. . .
by Erik Ryberg 30 Dec '09

30 Dec '09

All-- I think what Andrea meant to say in her first post was, "Dude, your radio show is going to be four men talking about bikes! But half the population is female, and both men and women need to hear what important roles women have played and are playing now in bike advocacy (and everything else . . . ). Wouldn't you agree? There are tons of rad women in the L.A. bike scene -- why can't you have some of them on your programs?? And what Jim meant to say in reply was, Andrea-- Shoot, you are so right!!! Duh!!! Do you have any contacts I can use? Would you like to be on the show and discuss women and bicycling? I would love to interview you on the show! To which Andrea meant to say, Jim-- Yeah sure, I could be on your show, but I think you should use local talent, don't you? If you don't know any women bike advocates in L.A., well then dude you aren't paying enough attention! Check out Bike Girl at bikegirlblog.blogspot.com/ or other folks in the Bike Writer's Collective. And contact bikerowave or the L.A. Bicycle Kitchen. And anyway, remember it isn't about having a show about women and bicycling, it's about recognizing and incorporating women in what you do all the time. And then Joshua meant to say, Hey everybody, Andrea has a pretty good point. I know that this issue gets discussed at Bikebike but I don't ever get to go to Bikebike, and at least here in the South discrimination/oppression of women is a devastating norm. Probably is where you are too. I'd like to see us talk about this more openly on this list serve, and talk about combating it. And then the moderator said, Joshua and all-- Of course! Let's just keep it civil and directed toward problem-solving, shall we? --Erik Ryberg -- Erik B. Ryberg Attorney at Law 312 South Convent Avenue Tucson, AZ 85701 phone: (520) 622-3333 fax: (520) 622-2406

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patriarchy
by Macho Philipovich 30 Dec '09

30 Dec '09

it seems to me many men here are missing the point. have people here encountered the concept of tokenism before? of the history and contemporary use of the concept of "hysterics"? or of even of patriarchy itself (as opposed to plain sexism)? have people read any of the ideas of feminists about how patriarchy functions? if not, this might be a really good time to familiarize yourself. bell hooks, who was mentioned before, is one of a plethora of possibilities, and is a good starting point. in general when dealing with oppression, it's tempting for members of the dominant group (in this case, males) to want to invent the idea of the "other" "bad males" as the problem, so they can feel pure and good in themselves, and to look only at explicit individual sexist acts, ignoring how deeply patriarchy is woven into the fabric of our society. for the same reasons, when confronted with patriarchy in the bike shop, many men will turn the question into "how can we convince more women to work here with us" instead of "how can we change our own behaviour to be less patriarchal." i hope the distinction is clear. we don't need any more men wasting our time trying to convince us that we've got them all wrong and that they couldn't possibly be sexist because some of their best friends are women. we need more men to actually spend time working against their own patriarchy, as well as society's. when we start looking closer at our own assumptions about what are "neutral" or "rational" ways of acting, we can uncover some surprising insights into how patriarchy works. one great example might be, say, an admonition that everyone should only ever have a "calm and positive" tone, or that we need to "deep six" dissenters to "restore order, production and prosperity." anyway, i'm sure none of us have too much hope in this email process, so please read up and start putting feminist ideas into practice in your own lives. macho http://bike-dump.ca

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Rabble rousers
by John Boyer 30 Dec '09

30 Dec '09

rabble-rouser n. a person who tries to stir up groups of people with speeches tending to arouse them to acts of violence against some existing condition, usually to serve his/her own ends. - World book Dictionary SBK (Sacramento Bike Kitchen) went through a period where a few rabble rousers had their way and it ended up in disintegrating the org. One must shine the light of day on this person quickly and deep six them from the org. Its the only way you can restore order, production and prosperity to your community bike shop. John Boyer. Sacramento

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Non-male-only bicycle projects
by Bike City 30 Dec '09

30 Dec '09

Hello everybody, I've been mulling over a lot of ideas lately about overthrowing the male domination of bicycle co-ops, collectives, recycleries, mechanics, and the industry in general. Are there any non-males out there who would be interested in discussing strategies to whoop the shit out of male privilege? I'd like to set an email list up for this purpose, but in the meantime, please email me: the.attica(a)gmail.com Thanks, andrea

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List Usage: How to contribute, How to get removed.
by Jonathan Morrison 30 Dec '09

30 Dec '09

Andrea, Joshua, and everyone else, Moderator here. All the Community Bike Shops would LOVE to figure out how to tip the scales so the bicycle industry so it isn't male dominated. We WANT to hear what you have to say, but you have to keep your tone calm and positive. If you can do that we are all ears, if you can't I (or one of the other moderators) will remove you from the list, not for the topic of the content, but for negative delivery. This will be applied to ANY topic. And for the record I don't have long hair anymore and there is too much snow for sandals, no comment on body part color. :) Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households. On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Bike City <bikecityrecyclery(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Greetings all butt-hurt dudes, > > I'm a man working on a bike project in Arkansas. I know better than all > of you who don't live here how sexist the South is, in general and in > bicycles specifically. I haven't seen any behavior on your part that > leads me to believe that you guys are any different. You are all part of > the problem. > > I read the beginning of this thread and all I saw was a person pissed > off at bike talk emails on this list. I think bike talk should get their > own list and stop mining this one. They aren't a bicycle project. They > just talk about how cool bicycles are. Big deal. > > I have read elsewhere on this thread where men have taken posts to this > list personally. I never saw anyone mentioned by name, so why are you > all so butt-hurt and defensive? > > Furthermore, why shouldn't we discuss our privilege as males in life and > in bicycles? If all of the books on bicycle history are going to link > bicycles with dress reform and women's liberation then why shouldn't we > discuss male privilege and female oppression, as it exists in the > bicycle industry today? Why is this topic off the table for discussion? > > I don't have the economic privilege to go to BikeBike once a year to > spend an hour or two discussing the real problems with our male > dominated bike culture and then pat our male selves on the back for > being so progressive. This list is the only forum where I can discuss > this. Or, to be correct, where I can try to discuss this. > > What's your hang-up? Why does any attempt to discuss sexism on this list > turn into a woman bashing free-for-all and all of the guilty men claim > to be "good guys." > > I'll confess that I'm writing to see if I, a dick-swinging man will get > shouted down by the other men on this list. Or even...kicked off the > list. Oh no! > > I remember the last purge on this list when sexism was discussed. The > male moderator who I'm sure is one of the "good guys" and above all > reproach, kicked off his list anyone that disagreed with the de facto > ethic that a woman's place is to shut up and get fucked. > > I'm sure you're one of the good guys, dude. You probably fit the > archetype of the "good guy." Chaco sandals, pony-tail, Subaru with some > witty bumper stickers, white skin, pink penis, organic diet; and I know > that your heart bleeds for the less privileged. Its easy to feel pity > for those "less privileged" people when you don't have to confront your > own privilege at the same time. > > Truth is, I don't give a fuck if the only moderator is a male and he > quashes any discussion of sexism on this list. I don't care if he kicks > us off the list. Fuck him. I don't care because I know that all you guys > are doing is making it clear to women and their allies that you are not > people we can trust or work with. > > If you're ever in Arkansas look me up, Moderator. I'll be the > rabble-rouser with the wrench in his hand. If you feel tough enough, we > can tussle. > > Yee-haw, > > Joshua > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 21:31 -0800, John Boyer wrote: > > rabble-rouser n. a person who tries to stir up groups of people with > > speeches tending to arouse them to acts of violence against some > > existing condition, usually to serve his/her own ends. - World book > > Dictionary > > > > SBK (Sacramento Bike Kitchen) went through a period where a few > > rabble rousers had their way and it ended up in disintegrating the > > org. One must shine the light of day on this person quickly and deep > > six them from the org. Its the only way you can restore order, > > production and prosperity to your community bike shop. > > > > John Boyer. > > Sacramento > > _______________________________________________ > > Thethinktank mailing list > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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Fwd: Exploded views of bicycle components for posters?
by bike against 30 Dec '09

30 Dec '09

Hi all, Here's another style / option to consider, it can't be incorporated in a book but it can be very helpful during the hands-on madness that takes place in our community shops. Is pretty fool-proof too. Hope it helps some. Season's Bike Greetings from Colorado. Rafael Cletero Project Coordinator Fort Collins Bicycle Co-op ph (970) 484 38 04 www.fcbikecoop.org ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: bike against <bikeagainst(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Exploded views of bicycle components for posters? To: bike against <bikeagainst(a)gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Carolyn Braunius <brauniusc(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > These are awesome! Seriously I was thinking about drawings like these to > maybe make into a reference book for the shop. Now all I have to do is print > them out. > > Thank you for sharing, > Carolyn > > www.troybikerescue.org > > "When shall we live if not now?" - M.F.K. Fisher > > > --- On *Tue, 12/29/09, Jason Moore <moorepants(a)gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Jason Moore <moorepants(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Exploded views of bicycle components for > posters? > To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 2:06 PM > > > We've got some fantastic drawings done by one of our volunteers, Cat > Callaway. She first used these in our WTF workshops and now we use them in > our new volunteer training workshops. > > Enjoy and spread widely! copyleft > > http://www.davisbikecollective.org/resources/documents/67-course-materials > > Rev. Jason > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Cal Cruz <calvertcruz(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=calvertcruz@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> Happy New Year everyone, >> Do anyone have exploded views of bike components that might be suitable >> for posters around the shop? Any help would be wonderful. >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> >> Cal Cruz >> Shop Manager >> Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective >> 2312 S. West Temple >> Salt Lake City, UT 84115 >> w: 801-328-2453 >> c: 801-759-1887 >> f: 801-466-3856 >> www.slcbikecollective.org >> www.saltcitysprints.com >> >> Bicycle Film Festival in SLC >> Friday, October 2nd: http://bicyclefilmfestival.com/?p=slc&d=01 >> Saturday, October 3rd: http://bicyclefilmfestival.com/?p=slc&d=02 >> >> The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling >> as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone >> of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides >> refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on >> children and lower income households. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org<http://mc/compose?to=Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org> >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to >> TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org<http://mc/compose?to=TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> >> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >> >> > > > -- > http://mae.ucdavis.edu/~biosport/jkm/ > Sports Biomechanics Lab, UC Davis (http://biosport.ucdavis.edu) > Davis Bike Collective Minister, Davis, CA ( > http://www.davisbikecollective.org) > Office: +01 530-752-2163 > Home: +01 530-753-0794 > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org<http://mc/compose?to=Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org> > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org<http://mc/compose?to=TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > --

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Exploded views of bicycle components for posters?
by Cal Cruz 29 Dec '09

29 Dec '09

Happy New Year everyone, Do anyone have exploded views of bike components that might be suitable for posters around the shop? Any help would be wonderful. -- Best Regards, Cal Cruz Shop Manager Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-759-1887 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org www.saltcitysprints.com Bicycle Film Festival in SLC Friday, October 2nd: http://bicyclefilmfestival.com/?p=slc&d=01 Saturday, October 3rd: http://bicyclefilmfestival.com/?p=slc&d=02 The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.

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Fwd: We want your opinion - on live radio...
by bike talk 28 Dec '09

28 Dec '09

Hey Spokes Folks, It's Jim C. here, and I'm writing to invite, no, to convince you to be heard - and not just by the online Bike Talk group this week. This coming Tuesday, December 29th, Bike Talk will get its first live broadcast show on KPFK, 90.7 FM from 11PM til midnight Pacific Time - you can check them out here <http://www.kpfk.org/>. Who listens to the radio these days? Well, you might be surprised. KPFK is a groundbreaking Pacifica station that broadcasts many great shows including my personal favorite, 'Democracy Now!' - here<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPFK>is a link to the KPFK wikipedia page. KPFK is considered a progressive radio station that leans a little farther left than other media stations. OK, so now you know the setup. How can you help? We'll be talking about most things bike, starting with a brief synopsis of bike-friendliness in cities by author Jeff Mapes (Pedaling Revolution<http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=0870714198&PID=33501>), and followed by a short critique of bike-friendliness in LA and what the city is doing to address cyclists' issues with its proposed Bicycle Master Plan. This is where we need you to call in - (818) 985-5735. What would you like to see improved in our city? Most of the listeners of this show will probably be driving in their automobiles. We want to bridge the gap between drivers and cyclists, so let's talk about what we want to see, not what we battle. We should save the fight for the next show - our focus with this show is to celebrate the bicycle and how it improves the quality of our lives. So call in and address the Bicycle Master Plan - (818) 985-5735, and tell us your ideas for improving cycling in our city. We'll be following up these segments with some bicycle culture, a year-end review from Streetsblog <http://la.streetsblog.org/>'s Damien Newton, calendar and news, and hopefully, some bicycle back story combined with clips from our interview with Richard Schwinn. We can't wait to hear from YOU! -Jim C Bike Talk! <http://archive.kpfk.org/parchive/index.php?shokey=biketalk> and Orange 20 Bikes <http://orange20bikes.com> -- please let us know if you want to be taken off this list. Hear Bike Talk! live on www.killradio.org, 10am-noon Saturdays. Call in at (213) 252-0998. Hear the podcast at kpfk.org: http://www.kpfk.org/programs/170-bike-talk.html See what's new with us at www.biketalk.us Follow us at bike_talk_kpfk on twitter.com

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moving a community bike shop
by Mark Rehder 28 Dec '09

28 Dec '09

And speaking of moving, here are photos of our last move: http://www.re-cycles.ca/2008move.html Mark

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New Year!
by Ainsley Naylor 28 Dec '09

28 Dec '09

Hey all, Really I just want to see the subject change, so I'd like to see folks throw out some ideas of wishes, dreams, plans and schemes they are hoping for in the new year. We at Pirates have a few - it always seems hard to implement drastic changes, so the new year seems a good excuse. Here's some things on our list: Changing our locks. there have been a number of key-holders who have come and gone, and we never changed the locks when we first moved into our building. Better security and a better system of designating key-holders is a top priority. Tracking sales. right now all of our cash just goes into the donation box, and not all new parts are *necessarily* paid for in full. We need to ensure we charge for all new items as well as (gulp) starting to charge all applicable taxes and track these sales! Do our taxes for the first time!!! Volunteer training. Right now we just have an orientation to introduce people to the space. We would like to have some basic training, including some anti-o/sensitivity and some way of designating who is a volunteer and who is a participant in the space. Any suggestions or input on the best way to implement any of these changes would be most appreciated. What are your goals for the new year? Ainsley and The Pirates.

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My personal email address
by Bike City 27 Dec '09

27 Dec '09

Hey dudes, When you feel entitled to attack me off-list, go ahead and send it to the.attica(a)gmail.com, so my work email doesn't get so cluttered. Thanks! Andrea On 12/27/09, Bike City <bikecityrecyclery(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Activist Scenes are No Safe Space for Women: On Abuse of Activist > Women by Activist Men > http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/feminist/activist_abuse.html > > > On 12/27/09, Mark Rehder <mark(a)re-cycles.ca> wrote: >> On 27-Dec-09, at 5:38 AM, Bike City wrote: >> >> (snip) >> >>> More generally, white dudes got us in this mess we're in. Oppression >>> is completely unsustainable. Now their colonizing, industrializing >>> asses want to be in charge of the clean up crew? They have a >>> thoroughly dastardly track record, so if they're not going to let >>> anyone else have a turn, we'd better at least keep an eye on 'em. >> >> >> You are guilty of the same attitude if you are going to use this >> broad a brush. >> >> With each community bike collective someone saw a need and got one >> going. The bike biz has been mainly male-oriented, so mainly guys >> have started these shops. But it does not have to stay that way, and >> at least these shops get started, and are presumably / hopefully >> being inclusive. And this model is ideally a step forward compared >> to a typical for-profit consume-all sports store. >> >> Please let us know of any examples where women were told "no, you >> cannot start a community bike shop, only men can do that". Yes, the >> bike industry in general can be fairly "macho", which is why I would >> much rather be with our community bike shop than a typical for-profit >> one. We've created it, and we can set its tone. Maybe our type of >> shop will be the way of the future, pushing out the old macho for- >> profit consume-all crap? >> >> Your anger may prevent you from believing that there actually are men >> who have been aware of the oppression and sexism from early in their >> lives, and have been trying to do something about it (just as there >> were white people who helped put an end to slavery). A guy can often >> make himself very unpopular with other men when he calls them on >> their behaviour (sexist, racist, whatever). But it needs to be done, >> for everyone's sake. And sure, feel free to "keep an eye on us" as >> we try to fight the crap... >> >> Mark >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to >> TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org >> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >> > > > -- > Bike City Recyclery > Fayetteville, Arkansas > http://www.bikecityrecyclery.org/ > -- Bike City Recyclery Fayetteville, Arkansas http://www.bikecityrecyclery.org/

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From a squatted truck factory: The tandem cargo trike
by Cascadian Fox 27 Dec '09

27 Dec '09

Hello, Built inside the old renault industrial vehical factory: the tandem cargo trike. Built to haul more dumpstered madness that a regular cargo trike, it can pull 2 trailers, some of them double wide double long (some pics are on our critical mass page: http://velorutionlyon.free.fr/article.php3?id_article=261 http://velorutionlyon.free.fr/article.php3?id_article=263 Is this a new invention ? If you or anyone you know is traveling in europe, they are welcome to stop by and built bikes, we have plenty of space, about 170 squared meters of floor space and about 150 squared meters of storage space. plus a huge indoor bike polo terrain. we are located in lyon france vélorutionnairement, Fox

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Order Your Bike Saviours 2010 Calendar Today!!
by Heather Hoch 24 Dec '09

24 Dec '09

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You rock, thinktank
by Clifford McCarten 18 Dec '09

18 Dec '09

Happy holidays, thinktank. What I like about you: It's a real pleasure feeling connected to the world. The internet, for me, fails a lot in this regard. But the listserv action is so human and humane, so sincere and useful. It was a wonderful discovery about two years ago to come upon an active discussion of everything we were facing and more, like a light in the darkness! Merci, merci. I hope you all have an excellent new year, as people and organizations. Best, Clifford McCarten B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 400 Wolfe St, Peterborough ON http://www.communitybikeshop.org On 2009-12-18, at 4:07 PM, thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Biketalk live on-air kpfk first time! (bike talk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:32:03 -0800 > From: bike talk <livebiketalk(a)gmail.com> > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Biketalk live on-air kpfk first time! > Message-ID: > <d0ea0faa0912181232m4a774e71m8713a38d8ad691fb(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > BikeTalk, our internet show about bike culture, politics, technology, sport, > and friendliness, airs live for the first time on FM on Tuesday, December > 29th, at 11pm on 90.7 kpfk Los Angeles. > > We'll try to include a calendar of upcoming events and all the bike news, so > if you have anything to share, please let us know. And if you listen, call > in! >

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Biketalk live on-air kpfk first time!
by bike talk 18 Dec '09

18 Dec '09

BikeTalk, our internet show about bike culture, politics, technology, sport, and friendliness, airs live for the first time on FM on Tuesday, December 29th, at 11pm on 90.7 kpfk Los Angeles. We'll try to include a calendar of upcoming events and all the bike news, so if you have anything to share, please let us know. And if you listen, call in!

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bikebikene on blog
by andrew lynn 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

hi all, i am a bikeblogger for the local paper here and upon realizing that it was my turn (!) this morning, i turned to blogging a bit about bikebike to the general public and here it is... http://blog.timesunion.com/bike/bike-bikes-all-around/693/ it is really not as thought out as my previous posts, which you can see here: http://blog.timesunion.com/bike/category/bloggers/andrew-lynn/ but i dropped some other shop links and thought the thinktank might enjoy. feel free to comment, as a lot of the blog has turned out to be about racing and stuff and pretty hyper local. good to get some outside voices if you desire. over and out andrew TBR -- andrew lynn | 518-573-7947 | troy, ny digital media | bike repair | tree work http://www.breathingplanet.net http://www.troybikerescue.org http://www.mediasanctuary.org http://flickr.com/photos/breathingplanet

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Re: [TheThinkTank] 4 BikeBikes.
by mylifeinthenow＠gmail.com 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Bike! Bike! NE is still going on in Apri as a warm up for May is Bike Month! -----Original Message----- Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009 7:56:48 pm To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> From: "N.O.Bike Project" <nolabikeproject(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] 4 BikeBikes. My bad, there are 4. Hmmm. winter.snowy.rose(a)gmail.com wrote: > What about the eastern one about new York area in April or may? > Is that still on? > > Chloé > Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network > > -----Original Message----- > From: "N.O.Bike Project" <nolabikeproject(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:39:55 > To: The Think Tank<thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Subject: [TheThinkTank] 3 BikeBikes. > > Hey y'all. > > In response to the query about a running tally. There are 3 BikeBike!'s > that I know of. Louisville and Boulder in the spring (on the same > weekend-March20) and Toronto in the summer. > > Personally I think regional bikebikes are a great idea. My only concern > is that there may be a lower turnout at the big annual event. I guess > we'll see what happens. > > -Victor. > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThi

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Getting Organized
by Ainsley Naylor 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

Re: compiling information to be passed on! We are very lucky to have a volunteer at Pirates who is taking an independent credit for her environmental studies degree which will allow her to get school credit for doing 6-8 hours of work for Bike!Bike! over the next few months. We are going to set her up compiling information, logging contact info and addresses for shops all over the world, as well helping to prepare welcome info packages. more excitingly, she will be doing a lot of research into the previous years' conferences, contacting organizers and finding out how they organized themselves, what their model, budget, schedule, food and funding looked like. We are hoping that this information can be compiled in a manner than will be EASILY accessible and transferable for following years' organizers. As we have said many times here, reinventing the wheel is totally unnecessary but we need a clear, consistent way of transferring information to confidently avoid it. We know that every city will have to do things in a unique way, but are really keen to put together a package that can guide folks through the process of planning, especially in terms of time-lines and person-power. We will be reaching out very soon via ThinkTank for contacts from previous years to pick their brains. Ainsley. On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM, <thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org>wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 4 BikeBikes. (veganboyjosh(a)gmail.com) > 2. getting organized, growing from one event to the next. > (veganboyjosh(a)gmail.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:52:21 -0700 > From: veganboyjosh(a)gmail.com > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] 4 BikeBikes. > Message-ID: > <53e5a1720912130952u3197d106x6e77de9a3cc5e449(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am all about sharing the love, and hosting or cohosting a workshop about > putting on a regional bikebike, or even a workshop that has folks from > previous/current international bikebike hosts. > Something I heard kicked around last year was the idea of a binder or file > of resources, that gets passed on to the next host, so that they don't have > to re invent the wheel. I've got something sort of related to that > happening, but it's unrelated enough as to warrant its own thread. > > Thanks, everyone. I'm excited to hear about so many other gatherings that > are taking the name bikebike. I was worried that throwing another one out > there would dilute the energy, but it sounds like it's not even close to > that. > > Rachel mentioned last year that maybe the smaller gatherings should take a > new name? It may be less confusing with so many of them happening. What are > your thoughts on that? > > josh. > > > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:56 PM, <brentmore1234(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > I would agree that having 80 or 90 (was it that many?) folks from all > over > > the southeast who are passionate about bicycles and bike collectives will > be > > a really good thing for Louisville. That's why I chimed in and said > > something about being against having the BigBike!Bike! in Minneapolis - > > there is already what, almost a 5% bike mode share going on there. Not to > > diss places that have some of the highest bike mode shares, they're > probably > > better places to organize a large conference out of, but there are places > > where biking is relatively in it's infancy (Louisville has less than a 1% > > mode share) and a truly grassroots thing like this could really spark > some > > conversation - if you have it in a place that is struggling. > > > > Just some thoughts. > > > > - Eli > > rachael spiewak wrote: > > > Same description goes for the previous Southeast version (ATL, > > 1/2009). > > It will only help. > > > > > > -rachael > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Carolyn Braunius <brauniusc(a)yahoo.com> > > <mailto:brauniusc@yahoo.com <brauniusc(a)yahoo.com?>>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Victor and all. :) > > > > > > We love BikeBike and plan on coming to Toronto for BIKEBIKE this > > > year by bike and hopefully with reinforcements from the northeast. > > > > > > Our thoughts behind bikebike NE was we knew there were a lot of > > > small shops or shops that are trying to get off the ground who > > > would love to get some of that special bike bike feeling, but > > > couldn't make it to Minneapolis and might not be able to swing the > > > big trip to Toronto. > > > > They also might not know about the special magic of bikebike and > > > can come to a meeting and get a little dose of the magic, before > > > falling inlove with the international event. > > > > > > We also wanted to create a stage to address some of the specific > > > bike culture challenges we face in the north east. We love all of > > > those cities that have bike paths and bike racks, and let kids > > > ride their bikes to school, and we want to have a space where we > > > can make a plan to help bring some of those really wonderful > > > things to places where we don't quite have that yet. > > > > > > We also like to hang out with y'all and promise to do our best to > > > throw a good party :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Carolyn > > > > > > www.troybikerescue.org <http://www.troybikerescue.org> > > > > "When shall we live if not now?" - M.F.K. Fisher > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sat, 12/12/09, mylifeinthenow(a)gmail.com > > > <mailto:mylifeinthenow@gmail.com <mylifeinthenow(a)gmail.com?>> /< > > mylifeinthenow(a)gmail.com > > > </*?'mailto:mylifeinthenow@gmail.com>>/* <mylifeinthenow(a)gmail.com > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: mylifeinthenow(a)gmail.com > > > <mailto:mylifeinthenow@gmail.com <mylifeinthenow(a)gmail.com?>> < > > mylifeinthenow(a)gmail.com > > > <mailto:mylifeinthenow@gmail.com <mylifeinthenow(a)gmail.com?>>> > > > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] 4 BikeBikes. > > > To: thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > > <mailto:thethinktank@bikecollectives.org< > thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org?> > > > > > > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 5:03 PM > > > > > > Bike! Bike! NE is still going on in Apri as a warm up for May > > > is Bike Month! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009 7:56:48 pm > > > To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > > <http://mc/compose?to=thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>> > > > From: "N.O.Bike Project" <nolabikeproject(a)gmail.com > > > <http://mc/compose?to=nolabikeproject@gmail.com>> > > > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] 4 BikeBikes. > > > > > > My bad, there are 4. Hmmm. > > > > > > winter.snowy.rose(a)gmail.com > > > <http://mc/compose?to=winter.snowy.rose@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > What about the eastern one about new York area in April or may? > > > > Is that still on? > > > > > > > > Chlo? > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: "N.O.Bike Project" <nolabikeproject(a)gmail.com > > > <http://mc/compose?to=nolabikeproject@gmail.com>> > > > > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:39:55 > > > > To: The Think Tank<thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > > <http://mc/compose?to=thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>> > > > > Subject: [TheThinkTank] 3 BikeBikes. > > > > > > > > Hey y'all. > > > > > > > > In response to the query about a running tally. There are 3 > > > BikeBike!'s > > > > that I know of. Louisville and Boulder in the spring (on the > > > same > > > > weekend-March20) and Toronto in the summer. > > > > > > > > Personally I think regional bikebikes are a great idea. My > > > only concern > > > > is that there may be a lower turnout at the big annual > > > event. I guess > > > > we'll see what happens. > > > > > > > > -Victor. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Thethinktank mailing list > > > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > > <http://mc/compose?to=Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org> > > > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThi > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Thethinktank mailing list > > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > > <http://mc/compose?to=Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org> > > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > > > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > > > <http://mc/compose?to=TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> > > > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > > > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Thethinktank mailing list > > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > > <mailto:Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org< > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org?> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > > > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > > > <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org< > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org?> > > > > > > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > > > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Thethinktank mailing list > > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > > > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > > > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thethinktank mailing list > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thethinktank mailing list > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > > > > > > -- > Thanks for supporting Community Cycles, Boulder's first and only > non-profit > bike shop! > Ask me how you can sponsor a Youth Earn-A-Bike student for just $100. > www.communitycycles.org >

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getting organized, growing from one event to the next.
by veganboyjosh＠gmail.com 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

Something I've been working on lately is a template for organizing an event and/or a program. It seemed like every time we put on a class, or a workshop or an event, we had to reinvent the thing, since no one had taken notes on what worked or didn't work last time. We've come up with a pretty simple multi-page spreadsheet that helps parse out tasks, duties, and timelines for things. It allows us to document the procedure for setting up an event or class (say, an open house, or a workshop) and then keep track of everything that needs to happen, what allies you can rely on, what their contact info is, other resources, food donors, space resources, all of it. After the event, it's also vital to do post-event evaluations, and include that information in your spreadsheet. What went wrong, what went well, what did you forget? Then, the next time someone, or you, wants to do the event again, all you have to do is call up your template, and do what's on the list of tasks. This time, you'll have your notes on what you forgot the first time, who helped you last time, who was good at what task, etc. Every time we start a new project here at Community Cycles, we draw up one of these templates, and start plugging in dates and names and tasks. We use a simple Google spreadsheet, which makes it easy to delegate and share responsibilites, and see waht people are up to. We're getting to the point now where we're able to rely on the spreadhseet info to do the event again, and it's proven SO helpful. When it's time to put the class on again, you just get the plan out of the box, and go down the list. You've taken notes on it already, so you know that if you do everything on the list, then it will be at least as successful and professional as the last time you did it. This isn't specific to bike projects, either. I've imagined it fitting with my old office job for projects or campaigns that we worked on. I think it could even work on personal around-the-house projects if they're sufficiently big enough to warrant their own planning process. I'm working on a "demo model" that has comments explaining some of the inner workings of it. I would love to share it with anyone who's interested. If you would like to check it out hit me up off list and I'll share the sample I have, which does not have comments just yet. Sorry this email is so disjointed, in case anyone's still reading. I didn't plan on mentioning/releasing this thing, but got excited with all the bikebikes happening, and wanted to share. Thanks everyone. josh.

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Re: [TheThinkTank] 4 Bike Bikes
by Ainsley Naylor 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Actually there are 5 - Montreal hosted the first "Velo Velo" conference this past September. Personally I can understand wanting to get together with folks who share your region, climate, state motto, etc. - there are probably a dozen projects in the smaller cities around Toronto we could share ideas with! - but I can also see the drawbacks to having these separate events. There can be a drain on energy and resources (five groups spending several months organizing something on top of their ongoing bike-project work instead of just one group making the sacrifice), as well as the potential to feel competition and folks having to decide which event to attend. We can only get so much time off of work, afterall. Anyhow, maybe we can all keep this in mind to discuss at any and all of these conferences. Or continue discussion here! high fives, Ainsley Pirate.

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Mountain States Regional Bikebike in Boulder, CO! Mark your calenders! March 19th through the 21st, 2010
by veganboyjosh＠gmail.com 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

If you're reading this, you are invited to Boulder to the first ever Mountain States Regional bikebike! It'll be held from March 19th through March 21st, 2010, in Boulder, Colorado. We don't have the registration site set up yet, but when we do, we'll post it. This email is just to let you know it is happening, and to mark your calenders. We're also accepting suggestions for workshops, activities, and any other suggestions you may have. Please know this is not in any way meant to take away from the big Bikebike that's happening in Toronto. We had a bunch of comrades here who couldn't make it to Minneapolis, and we wanted to get together with them. We figured while we're planning this thing, we could invite as many folks as want to come. Anyone is welcome to come to our little version bikebike. No bike shop or organization is to small or large. If you're interested, or have ideas, please let me know. We'll be doing some digging to find some of the smaller projects in the area that either don't know about the international network/movement, or haven't made it to a bikebike yet. Thanks, everyone. Can't wait to see you locals, and I can't wait to see everyone else in August! Josh and the crew at Community Cycles.

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 40, Issue 7
by Jason Tanzman 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

Sibley Bike Depot in St. Paul, MN periodically gets donations of police department bikes. They are usually given to us by small suburban communities (St. Paul and Minneapolis auction their bikes off to raise money). Our police dept bikes come with no programmatic strings attached - we can do whatever we want with the bikes. For small or start-up coops, police departments can be reliable sources of bikes. Often they want you to be either a 501c3 or have a sponsoring organization but not always. Especially for small townships, it isn't worth their energy to auction the bikes off - it just doesn't make enough money to be worth it (distinctly different than a place like Toronto or Minneapolis or other medium to big cities). I would warn folks that police department "donations" can be useful but can also be a huge pain in the butt. 2 month ago, we got a load of like 75 bikes of which they were pretty much all worthless and we had to remove the rubber and such to recycle all of them - basically it was a bunch of extra work for us to process abandoned junk. In terms of bike acquisition - I think that doing "bike drives" of various sorts - with churches, businesses, neighborhoods, etc can be a more effective way of acquiring decent bikes for all your different bike coop programs. It also gets the word out to lots of individuals who potentially become supporters of your organization in different ways. Jason Tanzman _______________ Sibley Bike Depot Volunteer Coordinator 612-232-2737 (cell) 651-222-2080 (shop) www.sibleybikedepot.org Sibley Bike Depot's mission is to be an open, accessible space to educate and empower people to use bicycles as transportation, helping to build a sustainable environment and community. Volunteer with us to help build a bicycling movement in the Twin Cities!

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anyone know of a nonprofit bike depot that handles unclaimed stolen/impound bikes?
by Andrea Smith 09 Dec '09

09 Dec '09

Hi Everyone, I'm looking for an example of a city where a community bike shop handles all impounded bikes at a central location and then refurbishes and sells the ones that aren't claimed. I work on cycling issues in Vancouver and Victoria on the west coast of BC, Canada, and the current situation (where if the cops can't find the owner of a stolen they sell it and keep the money) is seriously messed up. I'd like to propose an alternative where a nonprofit could be set up to handle the whole impound process, and it'd be great if I could point to an example where it's already done this way. Thanks, Andrea

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joining list
by Kelly Martin 08 Dec '09

08 Dec '09

Hi there! I have tried to both subscribe and create an account and got the attached error. And I tried calling the number for Jonathan Morrison under "contact us," and it doesn't work! Help! Thanks, Kelly Martin, Operations Facilitator The Bicycle Kitchen/La Bicicocina 706 N. Heliotrope Dr., Los Angeles, CA 90029 W 323.NOCARRO | M 213.210.5631 kelly(a)bicyclekitchen.com | www.bicyclekitchen.com http://www.bicicocina.blogspot.com

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Bike Collective Network on Crabgrass
by Fhar Miess 07 Dec '09

07 Dec '09

Is anyone doing anything with the Bike Collective Network on Crabgrass? https://we.riseup.net/bikecollectivenetwork Any other bike co-ops who are on Crabgrass? Fhar

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