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Re: [TheThinkTank] Kicked out of Bike!Bike!?!
by Gordon Hamachi 10 Nov '19

10 Nov '19

Neil: I agree with you that these are complicated issues. My posting here was a copy of my Facebook posting, where few people want to read anything long and complicated, and where even newlines can't be used in responses, to organize information. I disagree with you that anyone who had a history of working with the military would certainly be involved in police work. As you should know, members of the military are expressly forbidden to engage in police activities. It is ludicrous to equate US military veterans with US police officers, who have no jurisdiction in Mexico. It is beyond imagination that any US agency would choose to send undercover spies sent to Bike! Bike! for any reason. I doubt the part about Eric's history in "intelligence/secret services". Anyone who has had access to sensitive information would know that it is a bad idea to disclose that to random foreign nationals in a foreign country. I suspect that part was thrown in there for dramatic effect. I agree with you that commodities trading is related to mining and harvesting resources. You completely misunderstood my comments on that matter. I completely agree with excluding someone from Bike! Bike! if they are being disruptive or violent. Otherwise, let's make Bike! Bike! a place that welcomes anyone who supports our goals of promoting bicycle collectives and community bike shops. > From: Neil <neisei(a)comcast.net> > Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2019 14:53:50 -0800 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Kicked out of Bike!Bike!?! > > These are complicated and difficult issues and I don’t feel that your over simplifications and straight up omissions are a help to the conversation. > > The person in question was not simply “previously… a member of the US military”. > > It was specifically stated that they have "a history of working in the military and in intelligence/secret services” and as such would almost certainly be involved in policing and/or enforcement. This was *not* an exclusion of someone who is simply a military veteran and to state it as such only confuses things. > > Furthermore you seem to be suggesting that "commodities trading” somehow prevents "mining or harvesting natural resources that may harm the environment or oppress people”. Nothing could be further from the truth. it was specifically stated that the person in question currently works buying and selling gold, petroleum, gas and silver. The "steel, aluminum, rubber and plastic” that you say is necessary to have bicycles are actually not what they were said to deal in so I don’t know how that has any relevance to this case.

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point of sale / inventory management
by Andrew Yee 10 Nov '19

10 Nov '19

Hey friends, The Silicon Valley Bicycle Exchange is considering a point of sale system for some used bike and part sales, and perhaps some new accessories. Inventory management would be helpful. I know Lightspeed <https://www.lightspeedhq.com/> is a very popular solution, but I'm curious to learn what other solutions other community shops use and can recommend? Thanks in advance. -Andrew

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Kicked out of Bike!Bike!?!
by Gordon Hamachi 09 Nov '19

09 Nov '19

Bicis Disidentes thank you for confirming the facts of this unfortunate matter. It was wrong to exclude Eric. Your reasoning for doing this is confused and sadly misguided. You excluded Eric because he previously was a member of the US military, while citing a strict "no police" policy. The US military is not the police. In fact, members of the US Military are forbidden by law to be used in the United States for the purpose of law enforcement. I believe you are also mistaken regarding the role of commodities trading, which provides an orderly market for the purchase of these items, as opposed to mining or harvesting natural resources that may harm the environment or oppress people. Our civilization requires resources. We would not have bicycles without steel, aluminum, rubber and plastic. In the future, I hope that Bike! Bike! can do better at being welcoming and inclusive to all people who share our goals of promoting bicycling for transportation and social change, regardless of their previous or current occupation. ============ (Spanish translation from Google Translate) ========================= Bicis Disidentes gracias por confirmar los hechos de este desafortunado asunto. Fue un error excluir a Eric. Su razonamiento para hacer esto es confuso y tristemente equivocado. Usted excluyó a Eric porque anteriormente era miembro del ejército de los Estados Unidos, al tiempo que citaba una política estricta de "no policía". El ejército estadounidense no es la policía. De hecho, los miembros de las Fuerzas Armadas de los Estados Unidos tienen prohibido por ley ser utilizados en los Estados Unidos con el propósito de hacer cumplir la ley. Creo que también está equivocado con respecto al papel del comercio de productos básicos, que proporciona un mercado ordenado para la compra de estos artículos, en lugar de extraer o cosechar recursos naturales que pueden dañar el medio ambiente u oprimir a las personas. Nuestra civilización requiere recursos. No tendríamos bicicletas sin acero, aluminio, caucho y plástico. En el futuro, espero que Bike! ¡Bicicleta! podemos mejorar en ser acogedores e inclusivos con todas las personas que comparten nuestros objetivos de promover el ciclismo para el transporte y el cambio social, independientemente de su ocupación anterior o actual. > From: Bicis Disidentes <bicisdisidentestj(a)gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:09:06 -0800 > Subject: Re: Kicked out of Bike!Bike!?! > > *** inglés abajo *** > *** english below *** > > A lxs participantes de Bici Bici 2019 Tijuana > > Escribimos para informarlxs que a una persona que estaba asistiendo al evento se le ha pedido irse, y le hemos excluido del espacio/festival. > > Nos hemos enterado que Eric, que es voluntarix con Working Bikes Chicago, tiene una historia de trabajar con las fuerzas armadas y en el servicio secreto/servicios de inteligencia de Estados Unidos. Ellx actualmente trabaja en la compra y venta de oro, petróleo, gas, plata, y otros “recursos” naturales, y ha dicho que no tiene problemas ni morales ni éticos en hacer este trabajo. > > Enclave Caracol tiene una política estricta de “no policías” que existe para la seguridad de las personas que usan el edificio. Estamos activamente participando no solamente en la resistencia contra el sistema existente, sino también en construir alternativas para el futuro -- ambas cosas que nos ponen en conflicto frecuente con autoridades y corporaciones estatales. Además, Enclave es un espacio feminista, anti capitalista y anti autoritario. Debido a la proximidad de esta persona a las autoridades violentas estatales y la destrucción de tierras, comunidades, culturas y modos de sustento a través de la extracción de recursos, a ellx se le ha excluido. Esto no sólo se trata de las personas que asisten a Bike Bike 2019, sino también es un acto de solidaridad con las personas que resisten la destrucción ambiental, la colonización y la desposesión en todas partes del mundo. > > La decisión de excluir a esta persona del evento no se hizo mediante un proceso de consenso absoluto. Esto quiere decir que algunas personas dentro de las colectividades no están de acuerdo con la decisión, o no estuvieron presentes cuando se tomó la decisión por cuestiones dentro de la dinámica del evento. Sin embargo, apoyaron la decisión. Estamos conscientes de que la decisión no es fácil, que no vamos a satisfacer a todas las personas, pero estamos abiertxs al diálogo y al constante aprendizaje. > > > Con amor y solidaridad, > > > Miembrxs de > > Bicis Disidentes y Enclave Caracol > > > > > > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > > To the participants of Bike Bike 2019 Tijuana, > > > > We write to inform you all that a person attending the event has been asked to leave and excluded from the space/festival. > > > > It has come to our attention that Eric, who is a volunteer with Working Bikes Chicago, has a history of working in the military and in intelligence/secret services of the United States. He/they currently work buying and selling gold, petroleum, gas, silver and other natural ´resources,’ and have said that they have no moral or ethical problem in this line of work. > > Enclave Caracol has a strict ¨no police¨ policy which exists for the safety of people who use the building. We are actively involved in not only resisting the existing system, but in building alternatives for the future – both of which are things that bring us into regular conflict with state authorities and corporations. Furthermore, Enclave is a feminist, anti’capitalist and anti’authoritarian space. Due to this person’s proximity to violent state authority and the destruction of land, communities, cultures and livelihoods via resource extraction, they have been excluded. This is not only about the people attending Bike Bike 2019, but is also an act of solidarity with people resisting environmental destruction, colonization and dispossession all over the world. > > The decision to exclude this person from the event was not made via consensus, meaning some people within the collectives do not agree with the decision, or were not present when the decision was being made. However they support the decision. We are aware that the decision is not easy, that we are not going to satisfy everyone, but we are open to dialogue and constantly learning. > > > > With love and solidarity, > > > > Members of > > Bicis Disidentes and Enclave Caracol

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 158, Issue 4
by Bicis Disidentes 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

Re: Kicked out of Bike!Bike!?! *** inglés abajo *** *** english below *** A lxs participantes de Bici Bici 2019 Tijuana Escribimos para informarlxs que a una persona que estaba asistiendo al evento se le ha pedido irse, y le hemos excluido del espacio/festival. Nos hemos enterado que Eric, que es voluntarix con Working Bikes Chicago, tiene una historia de trabajar con las fuerzas armadas y en el servicio secreto/servicios de inteligencia de Estados Unidos. Ellx actualmente trabaja en la compra y venta de oro, petróleo, gas, plata, y otros “recursos” naturales, y ha dicho que no tiene problemas ni morales ni éticos en hacer este trabajo. Enclave Caracol tiene una política estricta de “no policías” que existe para la seguridad de las personas que usan el edificio. Estamos activamente participando no solamente en la resistencia contra el sistema existente, sino también en construir alternativas para el futuro -- ambas cosas que nos ponen en conflicto frecuente con autoridades y corporaciones estatales. Además, Enclave es un espacio feminista, anti capitalista y anti autoritario. Debido a la proximidad de esta persona a las autoridades violentas estatales y la destrucción de tierras, comunidades, culturas y modos de sustento a través de la extracción de recursos, a ellx se le ha excluido. Esto no sólo se trata de las personas que asisten a Bike Bike 2019, sino también es un acto de solidaridad con las personas que resisten la destrucción ambiental, la colonización y la desposesión en todas partes del mundo. La decisión de excluir a esta persona del evento no se hizo mediante un proceso de consenso absoluto. Esto quiere decir que algunas personas dentro de las colectividades no están de acuerdo con la decisión, o no estuvieron presentes cuando se tomó la decisión por cuestiones dentro de la dinámica del evento. Sin embargo, apoyaron la decisión. Estamos conscientes de que la decisión no es fácil, que no vamos a satisfacer a todas las personas, pero estamos abiertxs al diálogo y al constante aprendizaje. Con amor y solidaridad, Miembrxs de Bicis Disidentes y Enclave Caracol ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// To the participants of Bike Bike 2019 Tijuana, We write to inform you all that a person attending the event has been asked to leave and excluded from the space/festival. It has come to our attention that Eric, who is a volunteer with Working Bikes Chicago, has a history of working in the military and in intelligence/secret services of the United States. He/they currently work buying and selling gold, petroleum, gas, silver and other natural ´resources,’ and have said that they have no moral or ethical problem in this line of work. Enclave Caracol has a strict ¨no police¨ policy which exists for the safety of people who use the building. We are actively involved in not only resisting the existing system, but in building alternatives for the future – both of which are things that bring us into regular conflict with state authorities and corporations. Furthermore, Enclave is a feminist, anti’capitalist and anti’authoritarian space. Due to this person’s proximity to violent state authority and the destruction of land, communities, cultures and livelihoods via resource extraction, they have been excluded. This is not only about the people attending Bike Bike 2019, but is also an act of solidarity with people resisting environmental destruction, colonization and dispossession all over the world. The decision to exclude this person from the event was not made via consensus, meaning some people within the collectives do not agree with the decision, or were not present when the decision was being made. However they support the decision. We are aware that the decision is not easy, that we are not going to satisfy everyone, but we are open to dialogue and constantly learning. With love and solidarity, Members of Bicis Disidentes and Enclave Caracol El mié., 6 de nov. de 2019 a la(s) 13:12, < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> escribió: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Wiki broken? (Dennis Wollersheim) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dennis Wollersheim <dewoller(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: Scott Long <scott.m.long(a)gmail.com> > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:26:11 +1100 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Wiki broken? > It looks like if you access the pages using: > > https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page > > it works. If you access them using > > http://w.bikecollectives.org/index.php?title=Main_Page > > The internal links are broken. There is something misconfigured in the > wiki, but the moral of the story is, use #1, not #2! > > Cheers > > Dennis > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 11:47 AM Jonathan Rosenbaum <gnuser(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> It is working at >> https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Community_Bicycle_Orga… >> . >> >> Were you logged into the wiki when this happened? >> >> -Jonathan >> >> On 2019-11-04 14:32, Scott Long wrote: >> >> I tried to access the list of community bike shops in the wiki and all >> the links appear broken. >> >> >> http://w.bikecollectives.org/index.php?title=Community_Bicycle_Organizations >> >> Any ideas? >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > -- > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Dennis Wollersheim > ------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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Wiki broken?
by Scott Long 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

I tried to access the list of community bike shops in the wiki and all the links appear broken. http://w.bikecollectives.org/index.php?title=Community_Bicycle_Organizations Any ideas?

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Bike Saviours in Tempe Seeks a Lead Mechanic Part Time
by Nicole Muratore 04 Nov '19

04 Nov '19

If full-time isn't your bag, maybe you'll enjoy a part-time schedule working in an awesome shop! Job Description: Lead Mechanic (Part-Time) Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective 1930 South Roosevelt Street, Tempe, AZ 85281 (602) 429-9369 | http://bikesaviours.org Summary Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective (BSBC) is a volunteer-run 501(c)3 nonprofit education center devoted to teaching people about bicycle maintenance, building, and repair. We operate as a tool share that is open to the public. We provide affordable, repurposed bikes and parts through a collection of donated and recycled parts from the community. BSBC seeks a Lead Mechanic to work with the Shop Manager to manage the shop floor during open hours and lead, mentor, and educate our team of volunteers in support of the BSBC mission. Essential Job Responsibilities Leadership and Mechanic Education 40% - Educate and assist shop patrons with bicycle repairs - Establish and maintain standards to ensure safe, quality, and timely work in the shop - Manage all shop operations when Shop Manager is not available Shop User & Volunteer Experience 40% - Maintain a positive, educational, and empowering shop experience for all - Offer coaching and support to staff and volunteers working with our patrons - Deliver professional, accessible, and equitable customer service to a diverse patron base Resource and Inventory Management 20% - Work with Shop Manager to manage inventory, organization, and cleanliness of the shop - Maintain work areas and tools to ensure safe function - Manage the reconditioning of used bicycles for resale Job Skills and Requirements - A passion for bikes - Respect for and commitment to BSBC’s mission - You’re a self-starter who enjoys working with people from all walks of life, backgrounds, and ability levels - 2 to 4 years of bicycle repair experience on a wide variety of bikes - Experience working in or with nonprofits and/or community projects - You’ve used the phrase “Steel is real,” know the N+! principle, and the simplicity of friction shifters makes you warm and fuzzy. Those wonders of the past haven’t road blocked your brain from enjoying new technology. - A strong regard for our Safe Space Policy and ability to address individuals in violation - A demonstrated commitment to sustainable communities and transportation Compensation and Benefits This is a part-time, non-exempt, hourly position. Pay is $14/hour plus either paid time off or time-and-a-half pay for all federally observed holidays. Our shop is a casual, family-friendly, dog-friendly community-oriented space with a fun and energetic culture. 30 scheduled hours per week: Sunday/Monday 12:00 pm – 6:00 pm and Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday 3:00 pm – 9:00 pm. How to Apply Please email a resume and cover letter to Jim Tolar at jim(a)bikesaviours.org with “Lead Mechanic Position” as the subject heading. Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective is an equal opportunity employer. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, gender, national origin, disability status, protected veteran status, or any other characteristic protected by law. Cheers, Nicole Muratore, Shop Manager Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective (602) 429-9369

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Visual teaching aids
by Bikechain . 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

Hey all, I'm interested in seeing what kind of visual/tactile teaching aids you use in your shops. This year we built a limit screws demonstration based on something that was shared on the thinktank and I'm curious what other shops use. Thanks! Beth Austerberry Bikechain 563 Spadina Crescent North Borden Building Toronto ON M5S 2J7 416-978-6849 bikechainuoft(a)gmail.com http://www.bikechain.ca Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/bikechainut> | Instagram <http://www.instagram.com/bikechainut>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 157, Issue 21
by Lawrence Mohammed 01 Nov '19

01 Nov '19

Brilliant! We have similar at Pro Bike Service but definitely not as cool looking as that! ;) Warmest regards, *Lawrence Mohammed* Director & Head Mechanic Pro Bike Service C.I.C. *+44 (0)77 222 58587* *probikeservice.co.uk <https://probikeservice.co.uk>* *facebook.com/probikeservice <https://www.facebook.com/professionalbikeservice>* /[Location, NOT delivery address] Pro Bike Service C.I.C. Multi-Storey Car Park Lesney Avenue Olympic Park London E20 3BS *map location <https://what3words.com/upset.habit.funds>* / On 31/10/2019 20:03, thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Visual teaching aids (Sunny Nestler) > 2. Re: Visual teaching aids (Sunny Nestler) > 3. Re: Visual teaching aids (????? ??????????) > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Help make a university bike co-op directory! // Ayuden a hacer una guía para talleres comunitarios en universidades!
by Aida Mas Baghaie 30 Oct '19

30 Oct '19

-- Español a continuación -- Hello sweet bike pals, Over the years, a number of folks have asked me for info on starting/running a bike co-op at a university or college, so I figured it was about time to put together some kind of guide/directory! *Could y'all help me complete this list <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13A2tbzYpg_oeUfhoq3GKB-RHAKeL0kJDUUN…> by adding more info for university/college bike co-ops?* I promise to tidy it up at the end and put it on the wiki <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page>! Also, *if you have some general thoughts on starting/running a university bike co-op, please share* so I can include that too :) Miss you all and am already excited to see y'all in Mexico City for B!B! 2020! 🚲😻💕🚲 <3 aida -- Español -- Hola queridxs bici amigxs, Varias personas me han pedido información sobre talleres comunitarios de bici en universidades y decidí que ya era hora de armar algún tipo de directorio/guía! *¿Podrían ayudarme a completar esta lista <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13A2tbzYpg_oeUfhoq3GKB-RHAKeL0kJDUUN…> agregando más información sobre talleres de bici universitarios?* ¡Prometo ordenarlo al final y ponerlo en la wiki <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page>! Si tienen ideas o propuestas para armar talleres comunitarios de bici en universidades, por favor compártanlas por aquí para que las pueda incluir! Les extraño a todxs y ya tengo ganas de veros en CDMX para B!B! 2020! 🚲😻💕🚲 <3 aida

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Goodbye to Guadalajara Cycling House
by Mario Mexi 29 Oct '19

29 Oct '19

Hello friends! In 2015 we had the pleasure of receiving you during Bike! Guadalajara, in Casa Ciclista. We learned to work autonomously, to have safe spaces and to share it with other groups, we have empowered ourselves and we are glad to say so. We want to inform you of the situation that the group is going through: The place that for 5 years has been Casa Ciclista will soon be put up for sale and at some point we will have to leave it. We leave deeply grateful to the owner, our dear friend and ally. We are analyzing the following options: : Renting another space, which at this time would be difficult because it would represent increasing operating expenses. Move a part of the workshop to Casa Chabelita, a good friend's project, he has a bike mechanics workshop and a space to receive us. Find a house in bailment (borrowed for several years) with the government (a difficult but not impossible option). Finally, make a funding with the people who have passed through the house and allied groups to obtain money and pay for the operating expenses they have. We would like to hear your opinions and / or recommendations when you face these situations. We will do everything possible to maintain a space where we continue to receive people from other groups from anywhere in the world, the exchange of mechanics will continue, as well as the support for people who travel by bicycle around the world and need a space to rest and repair your bike, a workshop to learn and make community, a meeting place for people who want to change the city under the pretext of the bicycle, make community meals and have bikes to loan. At Casa Ciclista during 2019, we have kept the following projects active: • Community workshop (Bike Bike) Thursday and Friday • Permanent support for people to learn to service their own bike • Workshop for training of bicycle mechanics • Bicycle repair shop at fair prices for people • Talks and conferences • Cultural events such as movie screenings, music concerts, • The place has been lent to groups that seek to improve human or labor rights • We share space with the White Bike project (Ghost Bike) • And we try to keep the Earn a Bike project. In that sense it has not been possible to bring the bicycle container from Chicago with Working Bikes. We thank Trevor and the entire team for their support, we have talked to the interior of the group and for now we will pause the management. So, we will reactivate our Earn a local Bike, on a smaller scale, between 1 and 2 bicycles per month during the next year, to be able to deliver between 12 and 24 bicycles per year. We have received the support of people we met at B! B! who have come to work for seasons, we remember them with great affection and we greatly appreciate their generosity: Aryn from Pittsburgh, Lynneal from Santa Barbara California, Felix from Germany, Daniel from Chicago, Joseph from Columbus, Larry and Anne of Iowa, Angie from Pittsburgh, Reynaldo of Minnesota, Isoño from Argentina, James from Toronto, Maria from Poland, Tom from New York Huetzin de Morelia, Ricardo de Rapa Nui, Chile, Terri from Colombia, Isabel and Laura from Spain, Gaston of Brazil, Gerry from Germany, Juan José from Spain Aurelio from Brazil Izzi and Eyelid of England And more! On this occasion our representation at Bike! Bike! Tijuana will be Cess and Yere, the rest of the group sends hugs with love and we hope to always meet soon. Rila Libre Community Workshop Gdl at Bici Movilidad Sustentable A.C

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