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Privacy on the ThinkTank
by Godwin ! 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

In regards to the recent thread on QBP, please be aware that your conversations here are open to the public at: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org/. This is the way that the ThinkTank has been since the beginning in September 2006 but perhaps more conversation is needed about this if people are uneasy about that. There are few options as far as I can tell though, it seems that MailMan only allows public or private archives and the public archives (although generally underused as far as I can tell) are a great resource. Thoughts? Anyone more of an expert on MailMan and knows a better way we should set it up? .godwin

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 92, Issue 1
by DCoppley＠intercitytransit.com 05 Apr '14

05 Apr '14

Thanks for all the leads on the bike lights everyone. It looks like everyone is using more or less the same silicone body light. I wonder if kids that get them replace the little watch battery when they go out, of if it's a throw-away item. David David Coppley Walk n' Roll Program Assistant Intercity Transit 360-705-5817 PO Box 659 Olympia, WA 98501 dcoppley(a)intercitytransit.com Find us on Facebook! -----Original Message----- From: thethinktank-bounces+dcoppley=intercitytransit.com(a)lists.bikecollectives.org [mailto:thethinktank-bounces+dcoppley=intercitytransit.com@lists.bikecollectives.org] On Behalf Of thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:15 PM To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 92, Issue 1 Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Sources for inexpensive bike lights? (Ryan Feller) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 13:16:02 -0400 From: Ryan Feller <ryansfeller(a)gmail.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Sources for inexpensive bike lights? Message-ID: <CAJsyP2JLFb74PiFPe3q7ZzLhGVcMoBwjtnWvnQ-ZOeJPjLF6-w(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just picked up a pair of these for myself - 90 cents each, free shipping, and they look identical to the ones that Christopher posted above. I'm not sure how well they work (or even if batteries are included), but if anyone's interested I can post an update in this thread once they arrive. Several others on eBay sell the same lights at similar prices. http://www.ebay.com/itm/360761100542?var=630169092981&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX… On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Christopher Chan < chris.chan(a)edmontonbikes.ca> wrote: > I've been purchasing these: > > > http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10000977/1081100-2-led-3-mode-white > -red-light-bicycle-fog-lights-2 > > 3.66 per pair, and they almost always work unlike the ones we purchase > through our regular supplier. > > You can save a dollar per set (~2.72 per pair) if you order pairs of > red and pairs of white lights, and then get volunteers to repackage > the lights once you receive them. > > > http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10002426/1178400-3-mode-2-led-white > -light-tie-on-bike-light-keychai > > > http://www.fasttech.com/products/1603/10000977/1347701-2-led-3-mode-re > d-light-bicycle-fog-lights-2-piece- > > I order them in about quantities of 40 and haven't ever had any taxes > or duties on it. There's no shipping fee ever, so you can place as > many small or big orders as you like. My only concern with placing a > larger order in one package would be if it started to look like importing goods. > > You can save money if you're doing a much larger order (thousands) and > are willing to figure out how to import things, but that's too much for us. > Also, I think it's probably easier in the States than up here to find > the companies to handle imports/large volume purchases than it is up here. > > > Regards, > > Christopher Chan > *Executive Director* > Edmonton Bicycle Commuters' Society > edmontonbikes.ca > > *BikeWorks North ** 9305 111 Ave * T5G 0A2 * 780-757-9100 *BikeWorks > South ** 8001 102 St * T6E 4A2 * 780-433-2453 *Cell ** 780-756-7560 > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada @edmontonbicycle > <https://twitter.com/edmontonbicycle> > facebook.com/EdmontonBicycleCommuters<https://www.facebook.com/Edmonto > nBicycleCommuters> > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Ryne Emory <ryne(a)thebikedepot.org>wrote: > >> We use J&B's brand, sunlite and choose one of the cheapest versions. >> You definitely get what you pay for, so it's pretty hard to find a >> cheap light that is reliable. We end up returning 10-25% of them >> because they're defective. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:59 AM, <DCoppley(a)intercitytransit.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello fellow bicycle do-gooders, >>> >>> >>> >>> I need to order a large quantity of inexpensive bike lights to use >>> as giveaways with bicycle we provide to youth as part of our >>> program. Does anyone have suggestions for a good source of >>> inexpensive lights? There seem to be a million suppliers on the >>> internet, and I don't want to end up with something dodgy. Thanks for reading! >>> >>> >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> David Coppley >>> >>> Walk n' Roll Program Assistant >>> >>> Intercity Transit >>> >>> 360-705-5817 >>> >>> PO Box 659 Olympia, WA 98501 >>> >>> dcoppley(a)intercitytransit.com >>> >>> Find us on Facebook! >>> <https://www.facebook.com/BicycleCommuterContest> >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: WalkNRoll_HZ_RGB] >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> <a href=" >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollec >>> tives.org/ryne%40thebikedepot.org?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">Unsubscrib >>> e >>> from this list</a> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ryne Emory >> Program Manager >> The Bike Depot >> 2825 Fairfax St. >> Denver, CO 80207 >> Office: 303-393-1963 >> Fax: 303-393-2607 >> Ryne(a)thebikedepot.org >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> <a href=" >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollect >> ives.org/chris.chan%40edmontonbikes.ca?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">Unsubs >> cribe >> from this list</a> >> >> >> > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > <a href=" > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollecti > ves.org/ryansfeller%40gmail.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">Unsubscribe > from this list</a> > > >

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Santa Barbara Bicycle Coalition (Bici Centro) is hiring
by Christine Bourgeois 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

Hi all, Any desire to work in beautiful Santa Barbara, CA? Bici Centro, the DIY community bike shop is hiring (see details below) http://bicicentro.org/Default.aspx?pageId=1234035 Best, -- Christine Bourgeois 805 699 6301 edu(a)sbbike.org Education Director, LCI #2255 Santa Barbara Bicycle Coalition <http://www.bicicentro.org/> www.facebook.com/sbbikes TITLE: Open Shop Coordinators JOB TYPE: Contract based LOCATION: Santa Barbara, CA PAY RATE: DOE WHAT WE ARE: Bici Centro, a project of the Santa Barbara Bicycle Coalition, is a community DIY bicycle repair shop and education center, with the goal of facilitating skill share and increased reliability and safety for Santa Barbara bicycle riders. POSITION DESCRIPTION: We are hiring Community Open Shop Coordinators to facilitate one open shop shift each week. Between the hours of: 11:30 am and 7:30 pm Tuesday - Friday 11:30 am and 5:30 pm Saturday *Reports to* *Shop manager and Executive Director* *Responsibilities* include: * operation of cash register and POS system * greeting and signing in patrons of the shop * teaching patrons bicycle repair skills * coordinating and appropriately tasking shop volunteers * organizing shop pre and post open hours *Qualifications*: * Background in bicycle mechanics * Strong inter-personal skills * Bilingual in English and Spanish * Ability to multi-task and maintain awareness of all happenings in a busy shop * Background in community based projects, community service, or non-profit work * Knowledge of Santa Barbara Bicycle Community and safe bicycle riding practices * Firmly believes in bicycles as a viable form of transportation *TO RESPOND*: Please include resume and cover letter to be sent to shop(a)bicicentro.org *Please attach your resume as a pdf.*

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Need Tennant Bike Policies for a property manager
by sheldon mains 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

We're working with the management of a large low-income housing project to get better bike parking for tenants (They've agreed to convert a parking space in an underground garage to a bike corral). They need policies for how to provide access (who gets keys/security cards) how to decide when a bike as abandoned....) Any suggestions on where to find policies to copy. (I've tried asking the list once before but haven't found an answer yet.) sheldon .............. Sheldon Mains SPOKES Bike Walk Connect www.SpokesConnect.org www.fb.com/SpokesConnect

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Sources for inexpensive bike lights?
by DCoppley＠intercitytransit.com 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

Hello fellow bicycle do-gooders, I need to order a large quantity of inexpensive bike lights to use as giveaways with bicycle we provide to youth as part of our program. Does anyone have suggestions for a good source of inexpensive lights? There seem to be a million suppliers on the internet, and I don't want to end up with something dodgy. Thanks for reading! David David Coppley Walk n' Roll Program Assistant Intercity Transit 360-705-5817 PO Box 659 Olympia, WA 98501 dcoppley(a)intercitytransit.com<mailto:dcoppley@intercitytransit.com> Find us on Facebook!<https://www.facebook.com/BicycleCommuterContest> [WalkNRoll_HZ_RGB]

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Artist Wanted: We HeArt Bikes Bicycle Art Show
by Reno Bike Project 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

Use this area to offer a short teaser of your email's content. Text here will show in the preview area of some email clients. ------------------------------------------------------------ http://us3.campaign-archive2.com/?u=896cc830d9fae0be048de1d03&id=e2e65aa956… ** Artists Wanted for We HeArt Bikes ------------------------------------------------------------ ** There is still time to submit, so get creative ------------------------------------------------------------ ** Submissions due April 11 at 5pm ------------------------------------------------------------ ** ------------------------------------------------------------ ** Submissions: ------------------------------------------------------------ We heart Bikes is open to everyone! All art has to be related to the bicycle in one way or another. This can be anything: Painting, sculpture, drawings, photographs, performances, digital media, and the like. Every submission is welcome and put on display for sale to benefit RBP. Artists decide what percentage of the sale will go to RBP, with a minimum of 50%. Submissions are accepted anytime before April 11 and can be dropped off or mailed to the Shop (541 E. 4^thSt. Reno, NV 89512). The show takes place on April 19th; For more information please call (775) 323-4488. Original artwork by Andrew Nixon For the first time this year RBP Members will get early access to the show and a free beer, starting at 5pm with general admission beginning at 6pm. If you aren't already a member you can sign up online for only $20 (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=896cc830d9fae0be04…) here (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=896cc830d9fae0be04…) , or you can come early and sign up then. ** Become a Member ------------------------------------------------------------ Your membership dues support our daily advocacy, community and education programs, and helps strengthen the voice of cycling in our city, working to build better biking conditions. Become a member by clicking here (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=896cc830d9fae0be04…) . ============================================================ About Us Reno Bike Project (RBP) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit community bicycle shop and advocacy group committed to creating a nationally recognized, cycling-friendly community through advocacy, education, and cooperation in the Truckee Meadows. Reno Bike Project achieves its mission by: * Making cycling more accessible through recycling and recirculation of used bikes into the community at affordable prices. * Holding bike mechanics workshops and encouraging self-sufficiency by providing a space for community members to repair their own bicycles rather than incur maintenance costs. * Promoting and holding events to encourage bicycle activism. * Working with public officials and other organizations to advocate for cycling rights and growth in the Truckee Meadows. * Complementing other local groups to encourage youth safety and cycling-related arts and culture, and contributing to Reno's continual growth as a diverse and vibrant community. * Keeping an open mind to all cycling needs and ideas and helping to facilitate positive growth. 541 E. 4th St, Reno, NV 89512 | Wed. - Fri. 10am - 6pm, Sat. 10am-5pm | 775-323-4488 ** Like us on Facebook (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=896cc830d9fae0be0…) ** Follow us on Twitter (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=896cc830d9fae0be04…) ** View our photos on flickr (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=896cc830d9fae0be04…) ** unsubscribe from this list (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage1.com/unsubscribe?u=896cc830d9fae0be0…) | ** update subscription preferences (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage.com/profile?u=896cc830d9fae0be048de1…) This email was sent to thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org why did I get this? (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage2.com/about?u=896cc830d9fae0be048de1d…) unsubscribe from this list (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage1.com/unsubscribe?u=896cc830d9fae0be0…) update subscription preferences (http://renobikeproject.us3.list-manage.com/profile?u=896cc830d9fae0be048de1…) Reno Bike Project · 541 E 4th St, Reno, NV, United States · Reno, NV 89512 · USA Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletter&utm…

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Money for our Movements conference - Register now!
by Christa Orth 29 Mar '14

29 Mar '14

Hi Bike! Bike! I do fundraising for Streetsblog <http://www.streetsblog.org/>, the daily news blog for livable streets, and I'm on the committee for the Money for our Movements conference August 2-3 in Baltimore. As a big supporter of community bike shops, I wanted to be sure this group got the invitation. I hope you'll come! It's my goal to get our all our biking and walking organizations to attend. Our movement certainly needs more grassroots funding, but even more than that, we have a lot to learn and share about the power of social justice and inclusion. This conference is focused on that. More details are below. Individual registrations are $300, but if we get a group of 5 or more people to register together at once, the registration is only $200. Let's do that! We can be the bike contingent. Housing and food are super affordable, and there are scholarships available. Let me know if you have any questions, and please feel free to spread the word far and wide! In solidarity, Christa [image: money for our movements 2014 banner] Are you looking to increase funding from your community to grow the work of your organization? Would you like to see your organization's funding stream more diversified and sustainable? Are you working in isolation and looking for community with other social justice fundraisers? *If so, THIS is the conference for YOU!* *Please join us August 2-3, 2014 at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, MD for:* - *Fundraising skills training *geared toward social justice activists, featuring hands-on exercises and practical information. There will be over 70 workshops and facilitated discussions, with the most popular sessions being offered twice! - *Concrete, real-life examples and models *of organizations from the US and abroad that are creating alternatives to fundraising that is driven by foundations and/or government agencies. - *Debates and plenaries *with luminaries and up-and-coming leaders in the social justice and philanthropy sectors that will provoke participants to think outside the box. - *Networking opportunities *for people to share, come together, and build community. More details are coming soon! Until then, you can check out videos and workshop offerings from past conferences at *grassrootsfundraising.org/conference <http://grassrootsfundraising.org/conference>*. *Registration is open now!* *I'm on the planning committee for Money for Our Movements. Contact me to discuss ways you can support and participate in this amazing gathering!* -- Christa Orth Development Director Streetsblog <http://streetsblog.org/> and Streetfilms<http://streetfilms.org/> 148 Lafayette St., 12th Floor New York, NY 10013 917-388-9066 corth(a)streetsblog.org <corth(a)openplans.org> *Support media that makes an impact on our streets* *Donate today! <https://openplans.secure.force.com/pmtx/cmpgn__Donations?id=701A0000000OLZL> *

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role call - New York State community bike projects
by breathingplanet . 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

Greetings, My colleague and I are charged with giving a brief presentation to a big cycling club about community bike projects in NYS this coming week. I am looking to make contact with as many representatives as possible, and mainly am looking for projects in addition to the ones listed below. Whats the context here? Well, the New York Bicycling Coalition has met with a few of us and is exploring how they can get involved in supporting the community bike project movement. For starters, they want to network us in some way and profile our work on a part of their website. but for starters... *who are we?* (and do we check email:)) The little talk we are giving will kind of kick off this endeavour in a way because the club demographically represents their 'base' to some extent. here is a list of active projects i know of: http://bikeatoga.org/ http://troybikerescue.org http://albanybikerescue.org/ http://uticabikerescue.org/ http://www.rcommunitybikes.net/ (rochester) Electric City Bike Rescue (schenectady; no website yet) http://times-up.org/bike-co-op http://www.recycleabicycle.org/ -i have heard that there is a project at Vassar college. truth? -there used to be Biketopia in plattsburgh. still happenin? -there was once something at SUNY Cortland -anyone know whats happening in Ithaca these days? -Binghamton? Buffalo? if you are a representative of an active NYS community bike project, please be in touch and send me a brief statement on your current 'status' and a link to a picture you think is a good representative for a powerpoint. otherwise i will do my best internet harvest. Thanks all! Andrew Lynn Troy Bike Rescue troy, ny -- ------__o ----_`\<,_ ---(_)/ (_) andrew lynn 518-573-7947

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their inflexibility with co-ops
by Joshua Goran 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

I'm not here to be a QBP apologist, but I do personally appreciate that they are tightening up restrictions on third-party resellers. People buying cut-rate parts online doesn't do anything good for co-ops or independent local bike shops, so I see their perspective. I hope there is some compromise that can be reached, though, which restricts the flood of cheap parts to places like Amazon while also giving legitimate organizations access. My experience with QBP has been via a single location, independent, for-profit shop, a bicycle commuter parking/service station, and now at an established co-op with a commercial location, and while there are hoops to jump through no matter what, they've been accommodating in all of my situations, including setting up a second account at the commuter station to track and bill fleet repair parts separately. I put together a list of every wholesaler I could find in North America, who I personally called or emailed to inquire as to if they dealt with mobile repair services without a storefront location...which might fit into a similar category as a limited-hours co-op. I'll see if I can dig out those notes and share them with the list. We've had a J&B account here (before my time) and at the for-profit shop I worked at we used J&B quite a bit for entry-level refurb-type parts. Cheap stuff, basically. If you have a storefront, I would personally just approach any of these vendors as a regular shop since that's what they're used to dealing with, and get into the details only if they ask or it is required. *----------Joshua GoranAdministrator, Ohio City Bicycle Co-op* 1840 Columbus Rd Cleveland, Ohio 44113 216 830 2667 OhioCityCycles.org On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:41 AM, < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Money for our Movements conference - Register now! (Christa Orth) > 2. Re: Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their inflexibility with > co-ops (Joshua Muir) > 3. Re: Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their inflexibility with > co-ops (momoko saunders) > 4. Re: Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their inflexibility with > co-ops (Kevin Dwyer) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Christa Orth <corth(a)streetsblog.org> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:03:50 -0400 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Money for our Movements conference - Register now! > Hi Bike! Bike! > > I do fundraising for Streetsblog <http://www.streetsblog.org/>, the daily > news blog for livable streets, and I'm on the committee for the Money for > our Movements conference August 2-3 in Baltimore. As a big supporter of > community bike shops, I wanted to be sure this group got the invitation. I > hope you'll come! It's my goal to get our all our biking and walking > organizations to attend. Our movement certainly needs more grassroots > funding, but even more than that, we have a lot to learn and share about > the power of social justice and inclusion. This conference is focused on > that. More details are below. > > Individual registrations are $300, but if we get a group of 5 or more > people to register together at once, the registration is only $200. Let's > do that! We can be the bike contingent. Housing and food are super > affordable, and there are scholarships available. > > Let me know if you have any questions, and please feel free to spread the > word far and wide! > > In solidarity, > Christa > > > [image: money for our movements 2014 banner] > > > Are you looking to increase funding from your community to grow the work > of your organization? > > Would you like to see your organization's funding stream more diversified > and sustainable? > > Are you working in isolation and looking for community with other social > justice fundraisers? > > *If so, THIS is the conference for YOU!* > > *Please join us August 2-3, 2014 at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, > MD for:* > > - *Fundraising skills training *geared toward social justice > activists, featuring hands-on exercises and practical information. There > will be over 70 workshops and facilitated discussions, with the most > popular sessions being offered twice! > - *Concrete, real-life examples and models *of organizations from the > US and abroad that are creating alternatives to fundraising that is driven > by foundations and/or government agencies. > - *Debates and plenaries *with luminaries and up-and-coming leaders in > the social justice and philanthropy sectors that will provoke participants > to think outside the box. > - *Networking opportunities *for people to share, come together, and > build community. > > More details are coming soon! Until then, you can check out videos and > workshop offerings from past conferences at *grassrootsfundraising.org/conference > <http://grassrootsfundraising.org/conference>*. *Registration is open > now!* > > > *I'm on the planning committee for Money for Our Movements. Contact me > to discuss ways you can support and participate in this amazing gathering!* > > > -- > Christa Orth > Development Director > > Streetsblog <http://streetsblog.org/> and Streetfilms<http://streetfilms.org/> > 148 Lafayette St., 12th Floor > New York, NY 10013 > 917-388-9066 > corth(a)streetsblog.org <corth(a)openplans.org> > > > *Support media that makes an impact on our streets* > *Donate today! > <https://openplans.secure.force.com/pmtx/cmpgn__Donations?id=701A0000000OLZL> * > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Joshua Muir <muirjoshua(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 07:48:25 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their > inflexibility with co-ops > It's time to let them know that the Community bike Project IS the new > local bike shop model! As a whole, we must be a lot of their business. > > Josh > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Leslie Peteya <lesliepeteya(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Wanted to warn y'all of dealing with QBP. >> >> After 7 years of having a dealer agreement with QBP for your basic small >> potatoes shop stuff, >> we decided to shut down our account with them over their new inability to >> ship to a new ship-to location. I succinctly explained the nature of our >> shop (volunteer, limited shop hours, etc.) and >> necessity of shipping to a different location, but it fell on deaf ears. >> >> Damn shame, because they said we were an excellent account with good >> financial management. >> >> I also wasn't pleased that they said they denied other new co-ops an >> account based on similar issues. >> >> This comes after their corporate policy of tightening up on third party >> suppliers, designed to keep the local bike shop in business. Ironically, >> we're still around after multiple for-profit local bike shops in our area >> have failed, and as a local community bike shop, we're now being hurt by >> the very policy designed to protect LBSs. >> >> We still have an account with United Bicycle Supply, and I'm exploring >> new accounts with Cyclone and Seattle Bike Supply. >> >> Can anyone recommend other suppliers that support our shops with >> community missions? >> >> Thanks, >> Leslie >> Durham Bike Co-op >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> <a href=" >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o…">Unsubscribe >> from this list</a> >> >> >> > > > -- > Joshua Muir > muirjoshua(a)gmail.com > > Frances Cycles <http://www.francescycles.com/> > Handbuilt cycling framesets > Touring, Track, Road,Cross, and Cargo > 203 Cedar St Santa Cruz, CA (831) 469-3369 > > > The Bicycle Church Collective <http://bikechurch.santacruzhub.org/> > Community Self-Service Cycle Repair > 3pm to 7pm everyday except Sunday > 703 Pacific Ave (enter on Spruce St) > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > (831) 425-2453 > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: momoko saunders <analyst(a)bikefarm.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 08:17:00 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their > inflexibility with co-ops > It would be nice if there was a person who could represent the concept > of a bike collective to QBP and other distributers. (does anyone have > a particularly good relationship? want to try it out?) > > Bike Farm has had some issues with setting up an account. The rep said > we could only order chains and tubes and other necessary parts. If > they saw anything high end, they would pull the account. > > For those who are wondering, Cyclone has always been good to us. They > even gave us a discount on our new tools when we had a fire last > summer. SBS is great as well. The two accounts combined get us pretty > much what ever we need. > > > I've also thrown the idea around about starting a Bike Collective > Distribution Company... When I started to research it, I found that > getting supplies would take relationships in China, or relationships > with people who have relationships in China. > > I don't currently know the right people. But I've been keeping my ears > open for opportunities. If anyone on this list knows the right people, > please feel free to contact me. > > -momoko > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Joshua Muir <muirjoshua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It's time to let them know that the Community bike Project IS the new > local > > bike shop model! As a whole, we must be a lot of their business. > > > > Josh > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Leslie Peteya <lesliepeteya(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> Wanted to warn y'all of dealing with QBP. > >> > >> After 7 years of having a dealer agreement with QBP for your basic small > >> potatoes shop stuff, > >> we decided to shut down our account with them over their new inability > to > >> ship to a new ship-to location. I succinctly explained the nature of > our > >> shop (volunteer, limited shop hours, etc.) and > >> necessity of shipping to a different location, but it fell on deaf ears. > >> > >> Damn shame, because they said we were an excellent account with good > >> financial management. > >> > >> I also wasn't pleased that they said they denied other new co-ops an > >> account based on similar issues. > >> > >> This comes after their corporate policy of tightening up on third party > >> suppliers, designed to keep the local bike shop in business. Ironically, > >> we're still around after multiple for-profit local bike shops in our > area > >> have failed, and as a local community bike shop, we're now being hurt > by the > >> very policy designed to protect LBSs. > >> > >> We still have an account with United Bicycle Supply, and I'm exploring > new > >> accounts with Cyclone and Seattle Bike Supply. > >> > >> Can anyone recommend other suppliers that support our shops with > community > >> missions? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Leslie > >> Durham Bike Co-op > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________ > >> > >> The ThinkTank mailing List > >> <a > >> href=" > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > ">Unsubscribe > >> from this list</a> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Joshua Muir > > muirjoshua(a)gmail.com > > > > Frances Cycles > > Handbuilt cycling framesets > > Touring, Track, Road,Cross, and Cargo > > 203 Cedar St Santa Cruz, CA (831) 469-3369 > > > > > > The Bicycle Church Collective > > Community Self-Service Cycle Repair > > 3pm to 7pm everyday except Sunday > > 703 Pacific Ave (enter on Spruce St) > > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > > (831) 425-2453 > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > <a > > href=" > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > ">Unsubscribe > > from this list</a> > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kevin Dwyer <kevidwyer(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 09:37:20 -0600 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their > inflexibility with co-ops > I forwarded a summary of the thread to a Bicycle Collective board member > and QBP employee that is part of a team responsible for community > engagement. I'll check in with him and see where it is at. > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:17 AM, momoko saunders <analyst(a)bikefarm.org>wrote: > >> It would be nice if there was a person who could represent the concept >> of a bike collective to QBP and other distributers. (does anyone have >> a particularly good relationship? want to try it out?) >> >> Bike Farm has had some issues with setting up an account. The rep said >> we could only order chains and tubes and other necessary parts. If >> they saw anything high end, they would pull the account. >> >> For those who are wondering, Cyclone has always been good to us. They >> even gave us a discount on our new tools when we had a fire last >> summer. SBS is great as well. The two accounts combined get us pretty >> much what ever we need. >> >> >> I've also thrown the idea around about starting a Bike Collective >> Distribution Company... When I started to research it, I found that >> getting supplies would take relationships in China, or relationships >> with people who have relationships in China. >> >> I don't currently know the right people. But I've been keeping my ears >> open for opportunities. If anyone on this list knows the right people, >> please feel free to contact me. >> >> -momoko >> >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Joshua Muir <muirjoshua(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > It's time to let them know that the Community bike Project IS the new >> local >> > bike shop model! As a whole, we must be a lot of their business. >> > >> > Josh >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Leslie Peteya <lesliepeteya(a)gmail.com >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Wanted to warn y'all of dealing with QBP. >> >> >> >> After 7 years of having a dealer agreement with QBP for your basic >> small >> >> potatoes shop stuff, >> >> we decided to shut down our account with them over their new inability >> to >> >> ship to a new ship-to location. I succinctly explained the nature of >> our >> >> shop (volunteer, limited shop hours, etc.) and >> >> necessity of shipping to a different location, but it fell on deaf >> ears. >> >> >> >> Damn shame, because they said we were an excellent account with good >> >> financial management. >> >> >> >> I also wasn't pleased that they said they denied other new co-ops an >> >> account based on similar issues. >> >> >> >> This comes after their corporate policy of tightening up on third party >> >> suppliers, designed to keep the local bike shop in business. >> Ironically, >> >> we're still around after multiple for-profit local bike shops in our >> area >> >> have failed, and as a local community bike shop, we're now being hurt >> by the >> >> very policy designed to protect LBSs. >> >> >> >> We still have an account with United Bicycle Supply, and I'm exploring >> new >> >> accounts with Cyclone and Seattle Bike Supply. >> >> >> >> Can anyone recommend other suppliers that support our shops with >> community >> >> missions? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Leslie >> >> Durham Bike Co-op >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> <a >> >> href=" >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> ">Unsubscribe >> >> from this list</a> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Joshua Muir >> > muirjoshua(a)gmail.com >> > >> > Frances Cycles >> > Handbuilt cycling framesets >> > Touring, Track, Road,Cross, and Cargo >> > 203 Cedar St Santa Cruz, CA (831) 469-3369 >> > >> > >> > The Bicycle Church Collective >> > Community Self-Service Cycle Repair >> > 3pm to 7pm everyday except Sunday >> > 703 Pacific Ave (enter on Spruce St) >> > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 >> > (831) 425-2453 >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > >> > The ThinkTank mailing List >> > <a >> > href=" >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> ">Unsubscribe >> > from this list</a> >> > >> > >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> <a href=" >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o…">Unsubscribe >> from this list</a> >> >> > > > -- > Kevin Dwyer > > IMPORTANT: This communication is intended solely for the use of the > individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their inflexibility with co-ops
by Leslie Peteya 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

Hi all, Wanted to warn y'all of dealing with QBP. After 7 years of having a dealer agreement with QBP for your basic small potatoes shop stuff, we decided to shut down our account with them over their new inability to ship to a new ship-to location. I succinctly explained the nature of our shop (volunteer, limited shop hours, etc.) and necessity of shipping to a different location, but it fell on deaf ears. Damn shame, because they said we were an excellent account with good financial management. I also wasn't pleased that they said they denied other new co-ops an account based on similar issues. This comes after their corporate policy of tightening up on third party suppliers, designed to keep the local bike shop in business. Ironically, we're still around after multiple for-profit local bike shops in our area have failed, and as a local community bike shop, we're now being hurt by the very policy designed to protect LBSs. We still have an account with United Bicycle Supply, and I'm exploring new accounts with Cyclone and Seattle Bike Supply. Can anyone recommend other suppliers that support our shops with community missions? Thanks, Leslie Durham Bike Co-op

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