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Call tomorrow: sales for community bike shops
by Mary Lauran Hall 12 Nov '13

12 Nov '13

Hi folks! Tomorrow we're hosting a call on community bike shop sales -- various shops' practices for using upcycled bikes as a revenue model, point of sale logistics, avoiding stepping on toes of local bike shops, eBay, and lots more. See below for deets. Three panelists will be on to discuss how sales work at their shops, then we'll have room for discussion. Hope you can join us! Mary Lauran *Sales for Community Bike Shops* *Wednesday, November 13, 2013* *2:00 PM to 3:00 PM eastern* *Register online here <http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/EventRegistration-…>* Selling new and reclaimed bike components and accessories is an important part of many community bike shops' models. On this call, leaders from community bike shop will talk in-depth about their shops' practices for sales, including point of sale software, permissions, and price policies. Panelists will include: - *Henry Dunbar*, Executive Director, Phoenix Bikes (Arlington, VA) - *Davey Davis*, Executive Director, Bicycle Collective (Salt Lake City) - *Karen Overton*, Executive Director, Recycle-A-Bicycle (NYC) [image: Register button]<http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/EventRegistration-…> -- Mary Lauran Hall Communications Manager Alliance for Biking & Walking mlhall(a)peoplepoweredmovement.org (202) 642 - 6617 P.O. Box 65150 Washington, DC 20035 www.peoplepoweredmovement.org Twitter <https://twitter.com/bikewalk> | Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/peoplepoweredmovement>| Instagram <http://instagram.com/bikewalk> | Flickr<http://www.flickr.com/photos/thunderheadalliance> *Win dollars for local transportation. Check out Advocacy Advance's new report on passing bicycle and pedestrian ballot measures. <http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/blog/4677/>*

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free?
by Vernon Huffman 10 Nov '13

10 Nov '13

It is quite rare for a person to be injured because of the condition of a bicycle. Perhaps they'll have to ride slower or stop. Riding in traffic or over rough surfaces can be dangerous no matter what condition the bike is in. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know of any case where a bike shop was successfully sued for damages from a bike accident. On Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:58 PM, "thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org" <thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free? (james bledsoe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:01:42 -0800 (PST) From: james bledsoe <jamesbleds0e(a)yahoo.com> To: mike r <rozdol(a)yahoo.com>, The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Legal Liability for Bikes Donated and then given out for free? Message-ID: <1384113702.52517.YahooMailNeo(a)web140803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Could the collection be done has effectively without the Big Ten guys? ? On Saturday, November 9, 2013 3:42 PM, mike r <rozdol(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hello, I'm in NY the "litigation state" and am trying to get my former employer, a BIG Ten employer to organize a bike collection event at their local manufacturing facility. The company has DEEP pockets so they get concerned about the potential for liability in the event that a donated bike ends up injuring someone due to defects that existed when it was donated, or that occurred when it was repaired before it was given away. Let me know your experience with this, from legal prospective, please don't reply with complaints about the "system" as we all know the system s**ks! Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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english/spanish bike repair zine/book
by the holla 09 Nov '13

09 Nov '13

Hey all, I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? thank you! Diana -- come disconnect the dots with me, poppet.

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Mission Statement Discussion on Loomio
by Darren Knox 06 Nov '13

06 Nov '13

Hey just a reminder y'all. We're having a discussion re: establishing a mission/values statement for bike!bike! If you're invested in the conference and the community bike shop world please participate in the conversation here: https://www.loomio.org/ discussions/7933 Here's what we have so far: The mission of B!B! is to foster growth and sustainability among community bicycle projects. B!B! provides a venue for community bike projects from around the world to network and “cross pollinate” to share ideas and tactics for (building a stronger and wider network of community bicycle projects). Since bike bike has no formal structure, this is entirely an "opt-in" consensus process (bike bike actually has no established decision making process so we're defaulting to consensus). Thus your input is INVALUABLE! Also, if you know of someone who might want to put in their 2c that isn't on FB or the Think Tank, please invite them to the discussion! Darren -- Volunteer Coordinator, Shop Coordinator www.therecyclery.org 7628 N. Paulina ▪ Chicago, IL 60626 ▪ 773.262.5900 *The Recyclery Collective seeks to build community through the restoration of donated and discarded bicycles.* Donate <http://www.therecyclery.org/donate> or volunteer!<http://www.therecyclery.org/volunteer>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 87, Issue 2
by jalaparoy＠gmail.com 05 Nov '13

05 Nov '13

Diana: There are excelente videos on YouTube from Spain from a store calles “Mamoth”, as well as a Google search which will give you lote of results. Roy “El Gringo Jalapeño” Pro-Ciclismo Xalapa México Enviado desde Correo de Windows De: thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Enviado el: ‎martes‎, ‎5‎ de ‎noviembre‎ de ‎2013 ‎03‎:‎23‎ ‎p. m. Para: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. english/spanish bike repair zine/book (the holla) 2. Re: english/spanish bike repair zine/book (Angelo Coletta) 3. Re: english/spanish bike repair zine/book (Dax Burgos) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:14:14 -0800 From: the holla <dholla(a)gmail.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: [TheThinkTank] english/spanish bike repair zine/book Message-ID: <CACZnU=2Jwp0NwV5p9e=4=bkv3gdMGQvcbqCDb0nkg-RrjuS92g(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey all, I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? thank you! Diana -- come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:55:39 -0800 (PST) From: Angelo Coletta <summitcyclingcenter(a)yahoo.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] english/spanish bike repair zine/book Message-ID: <1383663339.20343.YahooMailNeo(a)web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ciao Diana I give you two sources:? bemi.free.fr/biciklo????? and?????? www,parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=152 ? BTW- Was that holla for help or hola for hello?? I confess to a pang of envy.? I have a thing for human powered machines.? It would be a lot of fun to read about your experiences.? Please keep me in your loop via blog, email, facebook, or other means. Regards Angelo L. Coletta ? On Monday, November 4, 2013 9:15 PM, the holla <dholla(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hey all, I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? thank you! Diana -- come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 07:56:52 -0700 From: Dax Burgos <manager(a)communitycycles.org> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] english/spanish bike repair zine/book Message-ID: <CAHnRhomVWiYCvMojbbK=ibsG_c+3UbqTDW0WAHWcLpgFjGiH=Q(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sheldon brown website have English to Spanish translations for parts On Monday, November 4, 2013, the holla wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm studying Spanish and heading south to work with Maya Pedal in January. > Does anyone know of a book or zine that would be helpful for a native > English speaker to learn Spanish vocabulary related to bike repair? > > thank you! > Diana > > -- > come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. > -- Dax Burgos Community Cycles 2805 Wilderness Pl 720-565-6019 manager(a)communitycycles.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… End of Thethinktank Digest, Vol 87, Issue 2 *******************************************

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Fw: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 86, Issue 55
by Matt VanSlyke 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

Lots of good thoughts here Vernon, thanks for taking the time to spell them out so clearly. Suffice it to say that we have thought about most of what you mentioned. We've borrowed a kit from our local AAA office that has worked okay in the past. But we need something more complete. I completely agree with you about the strict obedience issue. And it's why I continue to resist the urge to go the LCI route. We've learned from experience that strict application of traffic laws, especially for our inner city refugee teens, can often inadvertently make them targets for violent behavior and bike theft. Sometimes it isn't a good idea to stay on the right-hand side of the road and come to a complete stop at an empty intersection, like if there's a group of 6 older teens standing there staring at you and your bike. But that's what happens if we go too far in teaching these kids the rules of the road without adding some common sense into the mix. What we need, IMO, is a different type of bike safety/skills approach when teaching kids, particularly refugee and inner-city teens. The last thing any of us wants to do is have a kid spend his/her time earning a bike only to have it get them beat up and have the bike stolen. On the issue of safety training for deer.....I think the jury is still out. -Matt On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Vernon Huffman <vernonhuffman(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > Please consider your goals and objectives carefully as you plan, Matt. We > use bike rodeos to encourage more people to ride, recognizing that more > cyclists on the streets make all of us safer. Thus our primary objective is > to give people confidence in their ability to ride safely. Promoting safe > practices is secondary. We make sure everybody who tries succeeds, > hopefully learning some skills in the process. Our bike rodeos are not > competitions, because we don't want anybody to lose, though we provide a > venue for those who want to display awesome skills. > > A fundamental skill worth focus is the ability to look back over the left > shoulder (right in UK) while maintaining a straight line. We also emphasize > riding slowly, by requiring those who finish the course too quickly to do > it again more slowly. We know it takes less skill to maneuver a bike > quickly. > > Very few materials are essential. Portable road stripes (or paint) and > cones can be handy for setting up the course. A double ended ramp might be > a nice touch. A printed certificate of completion and safety take-home are > valuable. Free lights, reflectors, pant clips, and safety vests are nice > handouts. Posters can communicate the importance of holding your line a > safe distance out from the door zone and other obstacles on the right side > of the road. Help participants to understand that cowering on the shoulder > is not a safe riding style and that more cyclists are hit on sidewalks than > on the street. > > There's a lot of controversy around helmets. Yes, they reduce skull > fractures from first impact if worn correctly, though they do nothing to > prevent concussion and slightly increase neck injury. The risk is that > telling people that bike riding is dangerous reduces the number of people > willing to cycle and thus makes cycling more dangerous. More people suffer > head injuries in automobiles than on bikes. Make them wear the damn > helmets. The main thing that will really improve safety is fewer cars. > > I also refuse to instruct cyclists to honor all laws or "drive their bike > like a car." Traffic rules are designed to protect all users of the road > from the threat of motor vehicles. Cyclists should understand the risks and > ride defensively, without threatening other cyclists or pedestrians. > Stopping at every stop sign merely increases vulnerability. Learn to > maneuver away from threats. Stop when necessary. Be prepared to ditch your > bike to the right if cut off; it could save your life. > > Since cyclists cannot be licensed, motorists should not expect them to > behave predictably. 75-90% of car-bike accidents are caused by the motorist > even if you expect bikes to comply with laws and none of them would happen > if there were no cars. China didn't have a universal traffic code before > 1955 because they didn't need regulations when everybody rode bikes. > Holland has become much safer as they transitioned from cars toward bikes. > Hold out for a car-free future! > > If cyclists learn to comply with their rules, will they then demand safety > training for deer? > > Thank you for working to make cycling safer for all of us. > > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:08 PM, > > ThinkTank: > I am writing a grant to fund the purchase of a kit to set up and conduct > bike rodeos community-wide. Can anyone point me in a good direction so that > I can develop an itemized list of needed supplies and costs? I have a good > idea of what we need but I want to include a very detailed budget with > specific items included. > > I think I remember seeing some info on the Wiki but that's obviously an > issue right now due to the malware situation. Anyone have a good source? > > Thanks, > Matt > > > -- > *Matt VanSlyke* > *Utica Bike Rescue* > *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* > *315.525.9554* > *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* > *www.uticabikerescue.org* > *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* > *Learn. Earn. Ride.* >

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malware on bikecollectives.org?
by Tom Bulten 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

I'm getting a malware warning when I visit bikecollectives.org. Does anyone know the status of the site? http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://www.bikecollectiv… Tom Oakdale Neighbors 1260 Kalamazoo SE Grand Rapids, MI 49507 www.oakdaleneighbors.org 616-248-2848 "Like" Oakdale Neighbors on Facebook. Join our Facebook Group. Connect on Nextdoor.

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Anti-oppression policies?
by christopher＠holisticcycles.com 25 Oct '13

25 Oct '13

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Promo Stickers
by troy neiman 25 Oct '13

25 Oct '13

Like Josh said, we get our stickers, t-shirts, posters and anything printed from http://peacesupplies.org/. Dwight has been doing this for a long time and also has been on our board at BICAS for about 20 years. The vinal stickers are great and we have had bikes recycled through our shop for many generations now and many have generations of Peace supplies stickers on them. The reflective stickers are super visible and do not come off easy. I also like the clear back stickers. Even if you are not wanting to mass produce you can skim the huge selection of awesome art they have collected over the years at http://worldsbestbikestickers.com/. I cant say enough about what these folks have done for BICAS, Earthfirst, and countless other organizations and movements over the past couple of decades. Check it out. Troy Neiman BICAS Tucson AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: sheldon mains Sent: 10/23/13 07:32 PM To: The Think Tank Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Promo Stickers anyone else get what may bet the worst marketing email in history from "FLIR"--a consulting group .............. Sheldon Mains SPOKES Bike Walk Connect http://www.SpokesConnect.org http://www.fb.com/SpokesConnect On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Jesse Cooper < jessecooper0(a)gmail.com > wrote: Hey gang! Our Community Bikes has been getting our stickers done at Fleming Decal (http://www.flemingdecal.com/ ). We usually order vanilla die cut on 3m reflective but also nice reflective. Its cheaper if it's not die cut and just comes in a sheet. We're happy with them. Super durable . On 2013-10-21 9:19 PM, "Joshua Muir" < muirjoshua(a)gmail.com > wrote: If it hasn't been mentioned yet- don't forget Dwight in Tucson with Peace Supplies- he's been printing stickers and more for Bicas for many years and does great work. Josh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:18 PM, the holla < dholla(a)gmail.com > wrote: Bike Punk http://www.bikepunk.com/ in Portland has ridiculously good quality stickers. It's all eco whatever so pricier, but since they're bikey you might be able to get a discount. Diana On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Andrew L < breathingplanet(a)gmail.com > wrote: We use sticker robot and have no complaints.... Ps: t-shirt plug! http://troybikerescue.org/shirts On Oct 21, 2013 7:33 AM, "mike.pattisall" < mike.pattisall(a)velocitycoop.org > wrote: We use Sticker You in Toronto. The colors on the solid back are more vibrant on dark color bikes than the clear back surface.http://stickeryou.com On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Ainsley Naylor < needleandthread(a)gmail.com > wrote: Bike Pirates has been trying to source a high quality sticker to put on our bikes that we build and also to use for general promotions (take a sticker! Put it on your agenda or a bathroom stall!). We ordered some from a company in Vancouver about 3 years ago and weren't completely satisfied with the quality. They were weatherproof but the clear laminate layer on top wasn't super durable and could be scratched off pretty easily. So we are looking for a different company, preferably in Canada. If anyone has any expereince or suggestions we'd love to hear feedback. We ran out of stickers last month and need to get moving on this. OCB in Vancouver has always had really fantastic stickers and I don't know where they get them from. Thanks, Ainsley (Bike Pirates, Toronto) _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- Mike Pattisall http://velocitycoop.org/ http://delrayretrocycle.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… --come disconnect the dots with me, poppet. _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- Joshua Muir muirjoshua(a)gmail.com Frances Cycles http://www.francescycles.com/ Handbuilt cycling framesets Touring, Track, Road,Cross, and Cargo 203 Cedar St Santa Cruz, CA (831) 469-3369 tel:%28831%29%20469-3369 The Bicycle Church Collective http://bikechurch.santacruzhub.org/ Community Self-Service Cycle Repair 3pm to 7pm everyday except Sunday 703 Pacific Ave (enter on Spruce St) Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (831) 425-2453 tel:%28831%29%20425-2453 _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Promo Stickers
by Ainsley Naylor 23 Oct '13

23 Oct '13

Bike Pirates has been trying to source a high quality sticker to put on our bikes that we build and also to use for general promotions (take a sticker! Put it on your agenda or a bathroom stall!). We ordered some from a company in Vancouver about 3 years ago and weren't completely satisfied with the quality. They were weatherproof but the clear laminate layer on top wasn't super durable and could be scratched off pretty easily. So we are looking for a different company, preferably in Canada. If anyone has any expereince or suggestions we'd love to hear feedback. We ran out of stickers last month and need to get moving on this. OCB in Vancouver has always had really fantastic stickers and I don't know where they get them from. Thanks, Ainsley (Bike Pirates, Toronto)

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