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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 86, Issue 42
by mike r 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Document Storage: An important thing to consider when storing documents is to maintain a document register so folks will know that they are viewing the most current revision of the document. This may be difficult to do in the various systems of storage and therefore the organization may want to also post a document that lists all of their posted document, and list the most current revision of each. Also each document should have a revision status included in it, and updated when the document changes. Cheers, Mike the bike guy, Troy Bike Rescue On Monday, October 21, 2013 1:23 AM, "thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org" <thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Organizing Documents Electronically? (Vincenzo loco) 2. Promo Stickers (Ainsley Naylor) 3. Re: Organizing Documents Electronically? (james bledsoe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:58:28 -0700 From: Vincenzo loco <wormsign(a)gmail.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Organizing Documents Electronically? Message-ID: <CABN3bQYXT0s6Oj9QNkWFio2+usXbWBmTifFjWr-XmwLKFi8B2g(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" won't speak to any particular process being the best, bikerowave is transitioning to google docs, we have data entry parties and things go a lot faster than you would think when 30 people are working through a stack. On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, momoko saunders <analyst(a)bikefarm.org>wrote: > *twinkle fingers* Dropbox. > > If you want some help, I don't mind having a long phone call with you as > tech support. > > -m > > > On Saturday, October 19, 2013, wrote: > >> I don't know the specifics of how google docs handles syncing but Dropbox >> is pretty nice for making docs available from any web browser (you'd need a >> password to get to it; it's not like your stuff would be publicly >> accessible) and syncing between computers. >> >> In a nutshell: >> 1. You create an account (free or pay for upgrades). >> 2. Jump through a few hoops to increase the free storage space. (Like >> them on Facebook, install the software, tweet about them, get a friend to >> sign up, several other relatively pain free hoops.) >> 3. Install the software in your computer and assigns shared folder. >> Invite other users(that warehouse computer, other shop employees, etc) and >> now that folder lives online but can be accessed by anyone who's been >> shared. >> 4. Anything you drop into the dropbox folder from THIS computer will be >> available in the same folder on THAT computer. >> 5. You can also generate download links for specific files, so that you >> could post a link to download a blank liability waiver, for example, >> without having to give access to the entire folder of shared stuff. >> >> I can't/won't speak to the actual process of making the merge from a 20 >> year old mishmash into a streamlined setup, but I will urge you to remember >> that it's taken 20 years to get to this point. It's probably not going to >> be a single weekend project getting it all sorted. >> Slow and steady winds the race. >> >> josh. >> >> >> On Saturday, October 19, 2013, allison karow wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> it's been a while since I posted to this list, I'm subscribing from a >>> different email address now but it's me, sunny! from vancouver / OCB, >>> formerly from phoenix / Bike Saviours. >>> >>> I have a question about making the switch from paper to electronic >>> documents. OCB has been around for 20 years, and we have a huge mish mash >>> of different systems for organizing our documents. The main three are: 1) a >>> huge pile of filing cabinets, 2) the hard drive on our computer (which >>> often doesnt match what's on the hard drive of our OTHER computer at our >>> warehouse), and 3) google docs, which does not match what's on either hard >>> drive and has to be constantly updated to reflect our ever-changing >>> policies, lists, minutes, etc. >>> >>> Basically, it's terribly confusing and nobody ever knows where to find >>> anything without asking the one or two people who have been with us the >>> longest. We need to use something that is stable and long-term. I'm >>> thinking google docs might still be the best thing, but I thought I'd fish >>> on here first. >>> >>> What I'm looking for is an online-system that can be synched up with our >>> hard drive (for back-up purposes), which can be accessed from any computer >>> and which can be categorized clearly and easily. I would like there to be a >>> section for every staff member's ongoing to-do lists, a section for meeting >>> minutes to be filed, a section for policy documents, etc. I would also like >>> to have a section for forms (such as conflict or incident reports) that can >>> be filled out as needed and filed online as well. >>> >>> Does anyone currently have a system that they like using for this? Any >>> input is appreciated. >>> >>> sunny >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > >

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 86, Issue 37
by David Warner 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Please remove me from this wiki. thanks -----Original Message----- From: thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org [mailto:thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org] On Behalf Of thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 12:04 PM To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 86, Issue 37 Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Donations from Businesses (wormsign(a)gmail.com) 2. Re: Donations from Businesses (Martin, Eric Vance) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 08:12:39 -0700 From: wormsign(a)gmail.com To: Angelo Coletta <summitcyclingcenter(a)yahoo.com>, The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Donations from Businesses Message-ID: <7E72EDE0-81A9-4632-BE82-7C83400AB546(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you are a non profit you give them a receipt, they fill it in with what they think it's worth. If the IRS thinks they lied or overvalued stuff it's on them. It's good for them to have a detailed inventory and be to be modest I they need to defend the number they came up with. Enzo Loconte Board Secretary Bikerowave On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Angelo Coletta <summitcyclingcenter(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I have the viewpoint that if an entity is NOT tax exempt (501c3), > donations are treated as income by the non-profit and the donor can > not deduct the value on their tax return. When donations are sold, > then the question is was it sold for market value, below or above? A > non profit can have taxable income if they do indeed have a real > profit. Even those who have tax exempt status can be taxed for > UBIT(Unrelated Business Income Tax), if they sell things that are > "unrelated" to their mission. Angelo > > > On Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:47 PM, Matthew VanSlyke <vanslyke.matthew(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Seems that the lesson learned here is....ask a pro when it comes to taxes. > Thanks All. > -Matt > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Lesa Franz <gadget_teer(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > they need to talk with there tax accountant > > Lesa Franz > Coatesville Community Bike Works > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 10, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Steven Bradley <stevencbradley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm not a CPA, Matt, but I'm pretty certain they can take actual value for their donations. Suggest an appraisal or other 3rd party valuation, though. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 10, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Matt VanSlyke <matt(a)uticabikerescue.org> wrote: >> >>> ThinkTank, >>> I have been trying to research this and I'm not really finding a complete answer. Perhaps some of you have personal experience/knowledge that can help. There is a bike shop in my City that has a stockpile of used bikes in a warehouse and they've expressed some interest in donating them to our community bike shop. Does anyone know specifically what the tax advantages are for the business that donates? I know how it works for individuals but I don't know how it works for a business. >>> >>> Does anyone have epxerience with this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Matt >>> >>> -- >>> Matt VanSlyke >>> Utica Bike Rescue >>> 714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502 >>> 315.525.9554 >>> matt(a)uticabikerescue.org >>> http://www.uticabikerescue.org/ >>> www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue >>> Learn. Earn. Ride. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Thethinktank mailing list >>> Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >>> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to >>> TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org >>> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecolle >>> ctives.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to >> TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org >> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollec >> tives.org > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollect > ives.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollect > ives.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollect > ives.org

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Organizing Documents Electronically?
by allison karow 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Hi all, it's been a while since I posted to this list, I'm subscribing from a different email address now but it's me, sunny! from vancouver / OCB, formerly from phoenix / Bike Saviours. I have a question about making the switch from paper to electronic documents. OCB has been around for 20 years, and we have a huge mish mash of different systems for organizing our documents. The main three are: 1) a huge pile of filing cabinets, 2) the hard drive on our computer (which often doesnt match what's on the hard drive of our OTHER computer at our warehouse), and 3) google docs, which does not match what's on either hard drive and has to be constantly updated to reflect our ever-changing policies, lists, minutes, etc. Basically, it's terribly confusing and nobody ever knows where to find anything without asking the one or two people who have been with us the longest. We need to use something that is stable and long-term. I'm thinking google docs might still be the best thing, but I thought I'd fish on here first. What I'm looking for is an online-system that can be synched up with our hard drive (for back-up purposes), which can be accessed from any computer and which can be categorized clearly and easily. I would like there to be a section for every staff member's ongoing to-do lists, a section for meeting minutes to be filed, a section for policy documents, etc. I would also like to have a section for forms (such as conflict or incident reports) that can be filled out as needed and filed online as well. Does anyone currently have a system that they like using for this? Any input is appreciated. sunny

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Donations from Businesses
by Matt VanSlyke 19 Oct '13

19 Oct '13

ThinkTank, I have been trying to research this and I'm not really finding a complete answer. Perhaps some of you have personal experience/knowledge that can help. There is a bike shop in my City that has a stockpile of used bikes in a warehouse and they've expressed some interest in donating them to our community bike shop. Does anyone know specifically what the tax advantages are for the business that donates? I know how it works for individuals but I don't know how it works for a business. Does anyone have epxerience with this? Thanks, Matt -- *Matt VanSlyke* *Utica Bike Rescue* *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* *315.525.9554* *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* *www.uticabikerescue.org* *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* *Learn. Earn. Ride.*

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Bike!Bike! open discussion of Non-Profit Status
by momoko saunders 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Dear Bike!Bike attendees and community bike project peoples! For 10 years, BB has been an entity without formal structure or organization. In many ways, this is part of what makes BB amazing. At the same time, BB is changing; the bike movement gains momentum; and the members and needs of community bike projects grow and shift. Over the past couple of years, members of the Bike!Bike! community have begun discussing the pros and cons of creating a non-profit entity to better support the mission and logistical feasibility of Bike!Bike! This discussion developed through open conversation during Bike!Bike! itself, and has continued remotely through the Bike!Bike! Working Group, an informal network of individuals committed to continuing this discussion between conferences. The goal of this work is not to graft a structure of authority onto the collective phenomenon of Bike!Bike!; rather, we want to work cooperatively toward developing a simple legal framework and shared toolkit that will make Bike!Bike! easier to attend, host, and replicate. Folks interested in contributing to this work are always encouraged to participate. *** In an effort to be transparent. I suggest we discuss this topic using the open source tool, Loomio.org <https://www.loomio.org/discussions/7933> . It is a software that came out of the occupy movement in New Zealand. It is built to help large groups with consensus discussion and decisions. It does mean another login and website :-( but I think it will be worth it. We will write monthly emails to the Thinktank and BikeBike Facebook page to invite people to review or join the discussion. Other options include google groups or a facebook group. Do other people have suggestions about technological tools that will help facilitate this conversation? What do you all think? -momoko

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We're FLYING Forward over here....
by Matthew VanSlyke 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Helloooooo ThinkTank'ers We are going flat out here in Utica and have made some real progress establishing Utica Bike Rescue....and we're totally pumped! We've got a permanent space, we're taking in donations of parts, bikes, cash, we have a few small contracts in the works to deliver maintenance/commuting/safety workshops on the college campuses here, we've got some grant apps in that we're hoping come through in the next few months and we are going to be surprising some very, very worthy kids and teenagers with "new-to-you" bikes this holiday season. Lots of other behind the scenes stuff is going on too but no one wants to know our EIN number or read our bylaws I'm sure. I want to take a minute to sincerely thank all of you who are on this listserv who have provided advice, resources and even bikes that we've turned around and redistributed (BIG thanks to TBR!!). We have good local resources that have really helped in establishing the organization and shop. But connecting with those of you I met in Long Beach last year and continuing to share ideas has been so, so helpful (another HUGE thank you to former SLC Collective staffer Johnathan Morrison!). I updated our organization info on the Bike!Bike! website 'Organizations' page: https://www.bikebike.org/organizations/UticaBikeRescue_%28Utica%29. Our website will be up and running in the next month or so. For now, please find us and Like us on Facebook -www.facebook.com/UticaBikeRescue Lots more good stuff to come from the heart of upstate!

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Bike Collective Wiki Site
by Ron Kellis 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Is anyone on this list involved with the http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page ? I'd like to propose the changes below but the member discussion page I posted on isn't generating a response. I hate to just start making a lot of duplicate posts in the blind. I suggest "Maintenance Classes" for patrons be added to Common Activities as it is different than "Mechanical Training." I've posted a draft outline of the VéloCity Bicycle Cooperative basic maintenance class under "Teaching Resources" but that is a sub-topic to "Earn-a-bike." Maintenance Classes for the general public are often offered by coops and on the list there has been some discussion of volunteer mechanical training. To me, a volunteer should know at a minimum what is taught in a basic maintenance class so they do tie together. I think a page for "Volunteer Training" might have value too. And change "Mechanical Training" to "Open Source Mechanic Training" Thanks for considering my suggestions. Ron

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We're FLYING Forward over here....
by Matthew VanSlyke 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Helloooooo ThinkTank'ers: We are going flat out here in Utica and have made some real progress establishing Utica Bike Rescue....and we're totally pumped! We've got a permanent space, we're taking in donations of parts, bikes, cash, we have a few small contracts in the works to deliver maintenance/commuting/safety workshops on the college campuses here, we've got some grant apps in that we're hoping come through in the next few months and we are going to be surprising some very, very worthy kids and teenagers with "new-to-you" bikes this holiday season. Lots of other behind the scenes stuff is going on too but no one wants to know our EIN number or read our bylaws I'm sure. I want to take a minute to sincerely thank all of you who are on this listserv who have provided advice, resources and even bikes that we've turned around and redistributed (BIG thanks to TBR!!). We have good local resources that have really helped in establishing the organization and shop. But connecting with those of you I met in Long Beach last year and continuing to share ideas has been so, so helpful (another HUGE thank you to former SLC Collective staffer Johnathan Morrison!). I updated our organization info on the Bike!Bike! website 'Organizations' page: https://www.bikebike.org/organizations/UticaBikeRescue_%28Utica%29. Our website will be up and running in the next month or so. For now, please find us and Like us on Facebook -www.facebook.com/UticaBikeRescue Lots more good stuff to come from the heart of upstate! -Matt -- *Matt VanSlyke* *Utica Bike Rescue* *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* *315.525.9554* *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* *www.uticabikerescue.org* *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* *Learn. Earn. Ride.*

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We're FLYING Forward over here....
by Matt VanSlyke 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Helloooooo ThinkTank'ers We are going flat out here in Utica and have made some real progress establishing Utica Bike Rescue....and we're totally pumped! We've got a permanent space, we're taking in donations of parts, bikes, cash, we have a few small contracts in the works to deliver maintenance/commuting/safety workshops on the college campuses here, we've got some grant apps in that we're hoping come through in the next few months and we are going to be surprising some very, very worthy kids and teenagers with "new-to-you" bikes this holiday season. Lots of other behind the scenes stuff is going on too but no one wants to know our EIN number or read our bylaws I'm sure. I want to take a minute to sincerely thank all of you who are on this listserv who have provided advice, resources and even bikes that we've turned around and redistributed (BIG thanks to TBR!!). We have good local resources that have really helped in establishing the organization and shop. But connecting with those of you I met in Long Beach last year and continuing to share ideas has been so, so helpful (another HUGE thank you to former SLC Collective staffer Johnathan Morrison!). I updated our organization info on the Bike!Bike! website 'Organizations' page: https://www.bikebike.org/organizations/UticaBikeRescue_%28Utica%29. Our website will be up and running in the next month or so. For now, please find us and Like us on Facebook - www.facebook.com/UticaBikeRescue Lots more good stuff to come from the heart of upstate! -- *Matt VanSlyke* *Utica Bike Rescue* *714 Washington Street, Utica, NY 13502* *315.525.9554* *matt(a)uticabikerescue.org* *www.uticabikerescue.org* *www.facebook.com/uticabikerescue* *Learn. Earn. Ride.*

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Hand Drawn Diagrams of blown out bike parts
by momoko saunders 17 Oct '13

17 Oct '13

Hi, Can people please send me any PDFs or pictures of the hand drawn diagrams they have in their shops. I've had a lot of people ask me for these. If you don't have a pdf, just snap a photo with your phone! Email the pictures to merely32been(a)photos.flickr.com We can all see the diagrams here http://www.flickr.com/photos/93412361@N07/with/8494632542/ Thanks!! -momoko

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