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Weed & Seed retry
by Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc. 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

3rd try...I guess there were too many quoted messages and it was too big for the mail server. Sorry if anyone gets this twice. Last post from me, Just wanted to let everybody know what's going on with the W & S program. Thanks for everybody who weighed in on the topic. Basically the program is way scaled back from what we had thought it was at first. Corporal Witte will be collecting bikes from the impound and using our shop space to fix them up. He will purchase a standard bike tool kit and stand as well as all of his own parts. We will keep a separate area for bikes that he is working on (maybe 10-15 at a time) until he can give them out to kids on his beat. We all expressed concern that the kids really should be learning something and not just getting a handout but this is the program as it stands now. What we get out of the deal: Equal time-share rent (we estimated) for how long he uses the space vs. us. Really good press. Adult bikes from the police impound. An "in" and knowledge for possibly receiving a much larger W & S grant in the future. This could be used to hire a coordinator for an Earn-A-Bike or or other program. An "in" with Job Corps participants who need community service hours. If there is something we need moved or done we got a lotta hands that can help. Time to set up shop without feeling pressured to run a program we really don't know about or have a solid grasp on. I feel the most important points are the first and last. We need rent and to pay for liability insurance. This is basically free money. All we do is share the space we already have. We also have plenty of time to develop a curriculum and procedures for an earn-a-bike (so the kids can actually learn) and write a solid grant proposal for funding. Brian signing off from fabulous Wilmington, DE. Happy New Year everyone! -- Urban Bike Project of Wilmington 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801 Phone - 302-654-5304 Visit online at http://urbanbikeproject.org

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question about starting a bike co-op
by Kale 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

Hi, My name is Kale and I am involved in starting a bike collective in New Haven, CT. The group was wondering how other collectives have navigated the issues of liability and non-profit status. How many people have opted for 501c3 or c4 status, and what has been your experience? If you haven't opted for this, why? Also, how have people addressed the issue of safety in the shop, as far as insurance or legal risk for people injuring themselves in the shop or on bikes made or repaired in the shop? Any advice will be much appreciated! Thanks, Kale

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Re: [TheThinkTank] question about starting a bike co-op
by Taylor 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

Greetings Kale, The shop that I helped start (www.thebikecave.org) is in its infancy and is aiming to maybe start the paperwork to become a non profit in the next year. Right now it is a "community service" under auxiliary services at Texas State University, but we are far from exclusive to students with our open arms community view. Let me know if you come up with good advice on this subject, and I echo the call for experiences as well. To get away from liability, we talked with the campus lawyer and they recommended that we SELL bikes, parts, etc. outright to people thus stripping the university of liability. That is one solution, and the only we have tried yet. Just like a for profit bike shop - if someone buys a bike, gets hurt, you cant sue the local bike shop that sold it to them! Or at least I hope not! Taylor the bike cave San Marcos, Texas www.thebikecave.org

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Looking for someone in Chicago...
by Jonathan Morrison 23 Dec '07

23 Dec '07

I am trying to get ahold of someone in the Chicago Area named Evan Farrar. He is the programmer behind OpenSprints and we are trying to get that set up for a fundraiser in January. -- Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/

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Alley Cats
by Jonathan Morrison 21 Dec '07

21 Dec '07

Some guy named Morgan in San Fran runs this site, he said there was a way to auto-sync the two mediawiki sites, so that the Bike Collective Network wiki would have the listing too. If anyone knows how I can get ahold of Morgan, let me know. http://www.alleycatracing.com/ On Dec 19, 2007 5:57 PM, rachael spiewak <rachael(a)sopobikes.org> wrote: > on a similar note.. i try to rotate other co-ops through our myspace top > friends list. here we are if you'd like to add us: > http://www.myspace.com/sopobikecoop > > and on a sort of related note, can we get a calendar of fundraisers and > alley cats going (ahem.. urban velo)? > > -rachael > > > On Dec 19, 2007 7:52 PM, Rich Points < rich(a)richpoints.com> wrote: > > > Hey All, > > I envision in 10 years bike collectives will be the equivalent to the > > salvation army, i.e. the first place you, (average America), think of is > > a bike collective when it comes to donate a bike. > > > > Here in Boulder we have many transient people with the university and > > all. I know we often talk about other shops around the country and the > > world. People from other shops have stopped by to say hi and some of > > our members have said hi to other groups. > > > > What I'm getting at is let's really do what we can to pose this as a > > movement with people all over the country working towards getting people > > > > on bikes. One way we can do this is to link to each other from our > > websites. > > > > Johnathan has done a great job of putting together a directory on the > > bike collective wiki. Now if we all ad those links on our individual > > sites we can really boost our collective web presence while promoting > > the "bike collective" movement. > > > > We've put all the links we could find on our site, let us know if we > > missed one http://communitycycles.org/splash/?page_id=6 > > > > I encourage you to copy and past the code into your links page. > > > > Collectivley > > > > -- > > Rich Points > > Community Cycles Director > > http://CommunityCycles.org <http://communitycycles.org/> > > Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org > > 720-565-6019 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thethinktank mailing list > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > > > > > > > -- > Rachael Spiewak, MSW > Executive Director > Sopo Bicycle Cooperative > www.sopobikes.org > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Hours of operation: > Tues/Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm > Sat/Sun 2 pm - 5 pm > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > >

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Let's Promote Each Other on the Web
by Rich Points 21 Dec '07

21 Dec '07

Hey All, I envision in 10 years bike collectives will be the equivalent to the salvation army, i.e. the first place you, (average America), think of is a bike collective when it comes to donate a bike. Here in Boulder we have many transient people with the university and all. I know we often talk about other shops around the country and the world. People from other shops have stopped by to say hi and some of our members have said hi to other groups. What I'm getting at is let's really do what we can to pose this as a movement with people all over the country working towards getting people on bikes. One way we can do this is to link to each other from our websites. Johnathan has done a great job of putting together a directory on the bike collective wiki. Now if we all ad those links on our individual sites we can really boost our collective web presence while promoting the "bike collective" movement. We've put all the links we could find on our site, let us know if we missed one http://communitycycles.org/splash/?page_id=6 I encourage you to copy and past the code into your links page. Collectivley -- Rich Points Community Cycles Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019

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pro walk/pro bike conference?
by rachael spiewak 21 Dec '07

21 Dec '07

Hi, everyone. Anyone been to the Pro Walk/Pro Bike Conference<http://www.bikewalk.org/2008conference/index.html>before? Is it relevant to our work? What did you get out of it? A community member wants to send me and maybe some other folks because he thinks it would be an investment in bike advocacy in Atlanta on the whole, which sounds very nice. Just wondering what I'm getting myself into! Too bad the dates aren't lined up with BikeBike. That would be too convenient. : ) Thanks! -- Rachael Spiewak, MSW Executive Director Sopo Bicycle Cooperative www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues/Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat/Sun 2 pm - 5 pm

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Formation of Two Wheeled Foundation: Call for Ideas
by Two Wheeled Foundation Inc. 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

Greetings, The newly formed non-profit organization Two Wheeled Foundation, Inc. will be supporting activities for the global reallocation of bicycles. We are currently operating in North America and Africa. This e-mail is a call for project ideas to be funded by the foundation. One of the initial projects being considered for North America is a Bicycle Gadget Design Competition. The designs guidelines would be "for use by rural African agricultural and health care workers". There would be a $5,000 prize and a free trip to visit Africa which would include a safari. We were hoping to get feedback on this idea, and see if individuals out there would be interested in competing. Sincerely, The Two Wheeled Foundation Team

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Re: [TheThinkTank] anyone have a similar situation?
by Andrew Bushaw 18 Dec '07

18 Dec '07

In addition to what macho brought up, what happens when the police money for the program dries up and you can't afford to fund it anymore? If you keep it, you are doing the police a service without compensation, and if you end the program, people will point the finger at your shop for pulling the program rather than the funding source. 3,500 seems like a pretty meager amount of funding for what they want, especially since what they want seems pretty vaguely defined. Andrew FM Community Bicycle Workshop

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The question of selling Bikes
by Edward France 18 Dec '07

18 Dec '07

Good People, So Bici Centro of Santa Barbara is finally legit- we obtained fiscal sponsorship from our local bicycle coalition on December 4th, and are hoping all the hurdles to getting bank accounts, vendors number, liability insurance, financial 'books' and all that good stuff. Of course this means that we don't do any under the tabley stuff and cover our butt's. So here's a big question we are trying to deal with properly: How do we legitimately sell bikes? In other words- do we have people sign a release similar to if they build the bike themselves? do we have a special insurance for selling bikes? can the price be a donation, or is it a taxable payment? is there any advice you all could send our way on the question of being a non-profit selling bikes. All the best from fair Santa Barbara, Ed France BiciCentro.org

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