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Serving disabled populations in your shops/orgs?
by josh brown 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

Howdy all. I'm wondering how/if any of you have worked with populations or individuals with disabilities who come into your shops or who approach your organization for help. We've had this type of thing happen before, where someone who has experienced head trauma, or has severe balance issues is looking for an adult tricycle, but we never seem to have any quality ones in the shop when they're needed, and inexpensive but decent ones are in the 6-8 hundred dollar range. I received the below email this morning, and while i welcome the challenge and experience of getting a 10 year old with CP and Autism on a bicycle, i'm a little overwhelmed at the prospect. What kinds of experiences have you all had? I know Boulder and Colorado both have some excellent non-profits that deal with folks with disabilities, and I'll start making phone calls to them, to see what types of things to be aware of. I'm interested in your experiences as community bike shop staff. If anyone reading this has some type of circumstance which requires some sort of modification to their own bike to accommodate balance, reflex, or a body that's different than most of us have (ie, amputee, etc) issues, PLEASE get in touch. I'm interested both in your experiences personally as well as resources you've found to be helpful or not so helpful. I've personally worked with folks with all kinds of issues, just not in my work with bicycles...looking forward to bringing those two worlds together... thanks! josh. community cycles. Hello, > We have been looking into your program for our son but I have a couple of > questions. > > Our son has Cerebral Palsy and Autism, both are mild, however he has > difficulty in riding a two wheel bike as he has balance problems. He is 10 > yrs old, (11 in June) and has out grown bikes that we can place "training > wheels" on. We know that there are stabilization wheels but not sure how to > go about working with them on multiple speed bikes. > > Do you work with children with disabilities? and Would you be able to help > us in getting a bicycle that would meet his needs? > > He would dearly love to be able to ride a bike and we are most happy to > work with him and get him the proper set up. Any help or information would > be greatly appreciated. You are welcome to call us at our home phone or > email. Your program sounds very exciting and we look forward to hearing > from you. > > Thank you, Sue and Paul > >

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think tank broken ??
by james blesdoe 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

HI All, My in box is being flooded with multiple copies of think tank e mails including my own postings is this happening to everybody else??

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Re: [TheThinkTank] [SLC Bike Collective] babies and bikes
by Bruce Lien 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

I believe it actually is called shaken baby syndrome, though usually applied to abusive situations of domestic violence. --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Ryan Miller <rmiller(a)cityworks.com> wrote: From: Ryan Miller <rmiller(a)cityworks.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] [SLC Bike Collective] babies and bikes To: "'SLC Bicycle Collective'" <community(a)slcbikecollective.org>, "'The Think Tank'" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:54 PM Ya, continually shaking a baby can't be good. Probably a syndrome out there for it already. ;) -----Original Message----- From: community-bounces(a)slcbikecollective.org [mailto:community-bounces@slcbikecollective.org] On Behalf Of krisha Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:49 PM To: mtbiker62(a)comcast.net Cc: SLC Bicycle Collective; The Think Tank Subject: Re: [SLC Bike Collective] babies and bikes Ryan - I don't think you're off on this subject at all! An infant too young could easily be injured (even if not visibly) while in a trailer. I do however think it can depend if you have a cheap trailer vs. a model with shock absorption features etc. Also if you are on a newly paved road vs. an older bumpy road. Continual shaking of a newborn on a bike ride is not something I'd recommend though. Bob - Child carriers are an absolute MUST for mom and dad to have! They have those you've linked and also slings/mei tai are options as well. They're great for any time you need free hands, happy babies, and hiking of course. As far as putting it into a bike trailer for security.. I can't recommend that as they can be unsturdy, bulky, and may not fit in properly. I've seen dozens of parents come to the downtown farmers market with infants in trailers under 12 months! I haven't done it myself, but have been commuting with my toddler for a almost a full year now. I'd stick with a Chariot for an infant and then Burley as a runner up for trailer choices. Chariot makes a baby supporter for infants 3 -18 months. http://www.chariotcarriers.com/english/html/accessories.php?accID=3 Burley makes a baby snuggler for infants 3-12 months. http://www.burley.com/products/accessories/index.cfm I'd chose a Britax car seat if I were to use one in a trailer. http://www.britaxusa.com/safety/what-safe-reason.aspx http://www.britaxusa.com/products/product_detail.aspx?ID=2 Any of the infants I've come across in trailers are in car seats. I do recommend waiting until your infant can sit up though which would occur sometime between 4-7 months. There is always public transportation and taking turns with dad staying home when going out. Trust me it goes by quick and there is always a way! Congratulations Shea! Krisha -- Krisha Pessa Youth Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-931-0895 f: 801-466-3856 krisha(a)slcbikecollective.org www.slcbikecollective.org _______________________________________________ Community mailing list Community(a)slcbikecollective.org http://lists.slcbikecollective.org/listinfo.cgi/community-slcbikecollective. org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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repair manifesto
by rachael spiewak 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

it seems to be making the internet rounds, but just in case you missed it...platform 21's repair manifesto<http://blog.craftzine.com/archive/2009/03/the_repair_manifesto_from_plat.ht…>speaks a little bit to the kind of work we do. enjoy! -rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Serving disabled populations in your shops/orgs?
by Bruce Lien 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

Jason's method sounds similar to the one in the video "Pedal Magic". I have seen this method work and never hesitate to recommend it to the newbies. There are, however, some people with various reasons for their disabilities that will never master life on two wheels. Our program received a nearly brand new 26" cruiser that was set up for a 12 y.o. girl with brain injury who did not have the balance. This cruiser set up was AWFUL!!!!!!!!!! Though it had training wheels, you could push the entire bike over with your little finger or maybe even sneezing on it. SO UNSAFE. Instead, we got her set up on a smaller adult trike that provided much better stability. After months of frustration for family and her, it was way cool to watch her pedal down the street, having found new freedom on two (oops make that three) wheels. Her mother was delighted with the idea that now their beautiful daughter would be able to accompany them on their family recreational bike rides. If this is what it takes, I highly encourage you to look around for a funding source to buy the new trikes through a wholesaler or your local friendly bike shop. Bruce, Recycle Bicycles --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Jason Moore <moorepants(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Jason Moore <moorepants(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Serving disabled populations in your shops/orgs? To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 3:25 AM Check out the Lose the Training Wheels program. They are experts at this type of thing. Also an interesting new product is coming out soon: The Gyrobike My recommended method for teaching people to ride bicycles is this: 1. Remove the pedals of the bike and lower the seat such that the rider's feet can easily touch the ground, this way the rider can scoot around and get the feeling of the bicycle's dynamics. If you use training wheels or support the rider with your hand it doesn't allow the person to feel how the bicycle actually handles. 2. Once the rider is comfortable on the scooter, add the pedals so they can try self propulsion. People learn very fast with this method. Jason Moore http://mae.ucdavis.edu/~biosport/jkm/ moorebicycles Bicycle Dynamics Lab, TU Delft Sports Biomechanics Lab, UC Davis Bike Church Minister, Davis, CA Netherlands office phone # : +31 15 278 6932 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:16 PM, josh brown <josh(a)communitycycles.org> wrote: Howdy all. I'm wondering how/if any of you have worked with populations or individuals with disabilities who come into your shops or who approach your organization for help. We've had this type of thing happen before, where someone who has experienced head trauma, or has severe balance issues is looking for an adult tricycle, but we never seem to have any quality ones in the shop when they're needed, and inexpensive but decent ones are in the 6-8 hundred dollar range. I received the below email this morning, and while i welcome the challenge and experience of getting a 10 year old with CP and Autism on a bicycle, i'm a little overwhelmed at the prospect. What kinds of experiences have you all had? I know Boulder and Colorado both have some excellent non-profits that deal with folks with disabilities, and I'll start making phone calls to them, to see what types of things to be aware of. I'm interested in your experiences as community bike shop staff. If anyone reading this has some type of circumstance which requires some sort of modification to their own bike to accommodate balance, reflex, or a body that's different than most of us have (ie, amputee, etc) issues, PLEASE get in touch. I'm interested both in your experiences personally as well as resources you've found to be helpful or not so helpful. I've personally worked with folks with all kinds of issues, just not in my work with bicycles...looking forward to bringing those two worlds together... thanks! josh. community cycles. Hello, We have been looking into your program for our son but I have a couple of questions. Our son has Cerebral Palsy and Autism, both are mild, however he has difficulty in riding a two wheel bike as he has balance problems. He is 10 yrs old, (11 in June) and has out grown bikes that we can place "training wheels" on. We know that there are stabilization wheels but not sure how to go about working with them on multiple speed bikes. Do you work with children with disabilities? and Would you be able to help us in getting a bicycle that would meet his needs? He would dearly love to be able to ride a bike and we are most happy to work with him and get him the proper set up. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. You are welcome to call us at our home phone or email. Your program sounds very exciting and we look forward to hearing from you. Thank you, Sue and Paul _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Fw: [cooks] here's a doc that includes the Bicycle Kitchen
by james blesdoe 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

Here at the top of the post is what the start of this thread is all about. Jim Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXi9JLy0SXA > Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ8ezzt8WCo _______________________________________________ --- On Tue, 3/3/09, james blesdoe <jamesbleds0e(a)yahoo.com> wrote: From: james blesdoe <jamesbleds0e(a)yahoo.com> Subject: [TheThinkTank] Fw: [cooks] here's a doc that includes the Bicycle Kitchen To: waja61(a)sbcglobal.net, "Kim Jensen" <kimonabike(a)gmail.com>, "Jane Bledsoe" <jkebledsoe(a)msn.com>, "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 1:47 AM to the film maker thanks Jim --- On Mon, 3/2/09, jamesinger <thejamesinger(a)yahoo.com> wrote: From: jamesinger <thejamesinger(a)yahoo.com> Subject: [cooks] here's a doc that includes the Bicycle Kitchen To: "cooks list" <kitchen-cooks(a)bicyclekitchen.com> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:25 PM CHECK IT!!!!! love, james --- On Thu, 2/26/09, mitch marcus <waja61(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From: mitch marcus <waja61(a)sbcglobal.net> > Subject: here's a doc that includes the Bicycle Kitchen > To: pr(a)bicyclekitchen.com > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 1:24 PM > Hi. A while ago I came by with my little flip camera and > shot some people at the kitchen. Everybody there was so > nice. I just wanted to share the funky doc-movie with you. > It's in two parts cause it was too long for one link. > BK is mainly in the first part. > > thanks again for being you. > > Mitch Marcus > > Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXi9JLy0SXA > Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ8ezzt8WCo _______________________________________________ Kitchen-cooks mailing list Kitchen-cooks(a)bicyclekitchen.com http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/kitchen-cooks -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Scheduling Volunteers
by Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

First, thanks to everyone who commented on the "What happens when you add new hours" post. Very helpful. Scheduling Volunteers We just had a Volunteer meeting and discussed the need to schedule, ahead of time, so that we can know how many people to expect on any given day. Right now we sometimes have 3 volunteers or as many as 10-12 show up for an open shop day...One day, too many; one day, not enough at all. 5-7 is our "comfort" range. One of our more reliable volunteers sent me some questions and I'm curious how other shops deal with the specific issues mentioned. Thanks for taking time to respond. 1.) "How is it going to work if "too many" people sign up for a given day? Are the volunteers going to be asked to leave, or can they work on their own stuff, or what?" 2.) "how many is too many? Obviously if there are 2 kids there, 10 volunteers is overkill, but realistically, how many volunteers do you think you should hold to the schedule for an open shop night?" 3.) "What if a vol. can't make it when they're scheduled? Obviously, trying to get a hold of someone to cover the shift is necessary, but who's responsibility is it? Is it the shop's to try to get someone to come in, or the volunteer's, because they can't make it?" 4.) "What happens with a no call/no show? What happens if someone shows up 45 minutes late?" Brian Urban Bike Project of Wilmington -a 501(c)3 non-profit bike shop- 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801 Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00 Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org

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which shops have a women's program?
by allison karow 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

which shops currently have a women's program (open to interpretation)? i am putting a list together.. please include: the name of your shop the name of your program (if applicable) the city/state where your shop is your website or a way to contact/find you

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Re: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome.
by Bruce Lien 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

You grow a mustache because you want to, not because of what someone else (other than your significant other) might think. They don't like it, they don't have to look at it. Do your thing, man. I once grew a goatee and thought I was being funky. Instead, others thought I looked "dignified". Not the look I had in mind. I have grown many a beard in my life as well. Don't now, though, as when my daughter was five and I shaved it off, she said, "Daddy, now you look like a good man." Kept it off since. I don't want to look like a "bad" man in her eyes. Also, Tom Ritchey is an awesome guy. Heard him speak in Denver about how he came to be an integral part of Project Rwanda. This project is absolutely incredible and inspiring. If you can check it out by all means do so. And if you can find a way to support, go for it. This project truly has and is changing the lives of people in Rwanda!!!!!!!!!!!! --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Patrick Leahy <partick(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Patrick Leahy <partick(a)gmail.com> Subject: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome. To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 7:12 PM This is my first post to this doohickey. I've met veganboyjosh. My name is Patrick. I work at Bike Saviours in Tempe. Anyway, I have a moustache. Lately non-bike friends have accused me of growing it to be trendy. This is annoying, I've grown up around people with moustaches. Punks have moustaches, and bike people in particular seem to grow them. I grow facial hair every winter. It doesn't seem abnormal to me, and I don't see why its trendy. Anyways, you know who has a moustache, and has had one for years? Tom Ritchey. Tom Ritchey designed and hand built some of the first mountain bikes with Gary Fisher. He's designed scads of components, rides all over the world, and in hasn't shaved his stache in nigh of 20 years. He's a damn decent guy, and bike nerd to rival the best of them. I saw his moustache and the man today in Sedona at Mountain Bike Heaven. And it was fantastic. Anyways, you can use him as a point of reference for cycling moustaches. Oh yeah, he started this http://projectrwanda.org/ He's the first guy listed on the board of directors. Maybe that is on topic, project rwanda rules also. On Mar 1, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Jason Tanzman wrote: I think a central component of the "magazine" section and resource library should be zines. They are almost always local, place-specific, and grassroots. There are some seriously awesome zines out there - about bike trailer construction, commuting, and tons more - the best local zine here in Minneapolis is Dames on Frames, a feminist analysis of the biking movement locally and globally. Microcosm publishing has a great collection available for purchase (and it's super easy to set up a wholesale account with them). The other suggested books are great. I've been thinking for a while that our shop should set up a resource library for folks to either check out or use in the shop.-Jason TanzmanSibley Bike Depot, St. Paul MN_______________________________________________Thethinktank mailing listThethinktank(a)bikecollectives.orgTo unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.orgTo manage your subscription, plase visit:http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollec… Patrick LeahyGraphic Designer / Creative Consultant480-678-8191patrick(a)patrickleahydesign.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Fw: [cooks] here's a doc that includes the Bicycle Kitchen
by james blesdoe 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

to the film maker thanks Jim --- On Mon, 3/2/09, jamesinger <thejamesinger(a)yahoo.com> wrote: From: jamesinger <thejamesinger(a)yahoo.com> Subject: [cooks] here's a doc that includes the Bicycle Kitchen To: "cooks list" <kitchen-cooks(a)bicyclekitchen.com> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:25 PM CHECK IT!!!!! love, james --- On Thu, 2/26/09, mitch marcus <waja61(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From: mitch marcus <waja61(a)sbcglobal.net> > Subject: here's a doc that includes the Bicycle Kitchen > To: pr(a)bicyclekitchen.com > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 1:24 PM > Hi. A while ago I came by with my little flip camera and > shot some people at the kitchen. Everybody there was so > nice. I just wanted to share the funky doc-movie with you. > It's in two parts cause it was too long for one link. > BK is mainly in the first part. > > thanks again for being you. > > Mitch Marcus > > Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXi9JLy0SXA > Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ8ezzt8WCo _______________________________________________ Kitchen-cooks mailing list Kitchen-cooks(a)bicyclekitchen.com http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/kitchen-cooks

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lending library
by Liza Mattana 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Hey, We want to build a lending library at our shop, a place where members can check out books and magazines. Probably it wouldn't be more than a few shelves worth of materials. I can see the library broken down into 3 categories: Resource materials to check out: books on how to do repairs, how to plan for bike tours, memoirs from people who have toured on bike, how to make your own gear books, interesting bike reads, etc. Resource books, on-site only: tech manuals Magazines: informative (not a lot of marketing hype), and good/entertaining articles Or maybe not. Maybe not bother with magazines? Other thoughts? We have a good stack of books already from our volunteers, used books we've gathered from thrift stores mostly, but I'd like to seek funding for buying more books. I think we should have a few Park Big Blue Books, the Bicycle Wheel, and a Sutherland's for the shop. What other recommendations do you think are must or should haves? Thanks! Liza -- Liza Mattana president www.pedals2people.org Spokane, WA

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Serving disabled populations - finding partners
by Richard Dugas 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Hi all, Let me make a segway between two messages here, as partnering up with organizations strengthens you and allows you to become more involved with local actors and promote bicycles as a solution to many common problems. Organizations involved with youth, in employability, skills training, schools, crime-prevention programs, youth drop-in centers, environmental orgs... all have a potential need for the services you provide. We ran socio-insertion programs with a youth employment ressource center for the last five years. We are nos independent but are busy setting up partnerships in the neighborhood where we'll be opening up. While doing youth insertion programs, we got approached by a school for autistic children to see if we could help them fix up their bikes. This turned into a few years partnership where our employment lacking youth went to teach autistic kids bicycle mechanics. The results were fantastic for our youth: I never saw them be so patient, comprehensive, gentle and giving. I'm not sure that the autistic kids became very good mechanics but they definitely got to try things that they otherwise wouldn't have had the chance to and they definitely had a lot of fun while there. So Josh, the school in question is called Reach, they haven't got a website but the contact info is here: http://www.rsb.qc.ca/rsbmain.aspx The have a fleet of bicycles so that the kids at the school can try to learn to ride. And they have some success. We just helped them help themsleves fixing up their bikes. Good luck all, remember that you are doing much much more than just helping people fix bikes. richard from Vélogik 2009/3/2, josh brown <josh(a)communitycycles.org>: > > Howdy all. > > I'm wondering how/if any of you have worked with populations or individuals > with disabilities who come into your shops or who approach your organization > for help. We've had this type of thing happen before, where someone who has > experienced head trauma, or has severe balance issues is looking for an > adult tricycle, but we never seem to have any quality ones in the shop when > they're needed, and inexpensive but decent ones are in the 6-8 hundred > dollar range. > > I received the below email this morning, and while i welcome the challenge > and experience of getting a 10 year old with CP and Autism on a bicycle, i'm > a little overwhelmed at the prospect. > > What kinds of experiences have you all had? I know Boulder and Colorado > both have some excellent non-profits that deal with folks with disabilities, > and I'll start making phone calls to them, to see what types of things to be > aware of. I'm interested in your experiences as community bike shop staff. > > If anyone reading this has some type of circumstance which requires some > sort of modification to their own bike to accommodate balance, reflex, or a > body that's different than most of us have (ie, amputee, etc) issues, PLEASE > get in touch. I'm interested both in your experiences personally as well as > resources you've found to be helpful or not so helpful. > > I've personally worked with folks with all kinds of issues, just not in my > work with bicycles...looking forward to bringing those two worlds > together... > > thanks! > > josh. > community cycles. > > Hello, >> We have been looking into your program for our son but I have a couple of >> questions. >> >> Our son has Cerebral Palsy and Autism, both are mild, however he has >> difficulty in riding a two wheel bike as he has balance problems. He is 10 >> yrs old, (11 in June) and has out grown bikes that we can place "training >> wheels" on. We know that there are stabilization wheels but not sure how to >> go about working with them on multiple speed bikes. >> >> Do you work with children with disabilities? and Would you be able to help >> us in getting a bicycle that would meet his needs? >> >> He would dearly love to be able to ride a bike and we are most happy to >> work with him and get him the proper set up. Any help or information would >> be greatly appreciated. You are welcome to call us at our home phone or >> email. Your program sounds very exciting and we look forward to hearing >> from you. >> >> Thank you, Sue and Paul >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > -- Richard Dugas Directeur Komunbécyk 514-225-9129 7620, rue Chambord Montréal, Québec H2E 1X1

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lending library
by Bob Giordano 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

We've had a lending library for about 10 years. We keep it simple: books, magazines, articles on all things cycled, including advocacy issues, in our tea/class/social area at front of shop. Mostly people donate stuff, and read things on the spot. We put 'free cycles' in the inside cover of rarer things we want to come back, if it's borrowed. -Bob g., free cycles missoula veganboyjosh(a)gmail.com wrote: > i've also started a list of books and websites which are great for budding > and experienced mechanics and cyclists on the bike collective network wiki, > here. <http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Mechanic>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 31, Issue 1
by Jason Tanzman 01 Mar '09

01 Mar '09

I think a central component of the "magazine" section and resource library should be zines. They are almost always local, place-specific, and grassroots. There are some seriously awesome zines out there - about bike trailer construction, commuting, and tons more - the best local zine here in Minneapolis is Dames on Frames, a feminist analysis of the biking movement locally and globally. Microcosm publishing has a great collection available for purchase (and it's super easy to set up a wholesale account with them). The other suggested books are great. I've been thinking for a while that our shop should set up a resource library for folks to either check out or use in the shop. -Jason Tanzman Sibley Bike Depot, St. Paul MN

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Re: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome.
by stephanie.previc＠gmail.com 01 Mar '09

01 Mar '09

Hey Patrick, your post was totally off topic and also I think mustaches are great, I wish I could grow one. I was at Mountain Bike Heaven today, too. You should email me next time youre in town! -----Original Message----- Date: Sunday, March 01, 2009 9:13:24 pm To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> From: "Patrick Leahy" <partick(a)gmail.com> Subject: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome. This is my first post to this doohickey. I've met veganboyjosh. My name is Patrick. I work at Bike Saviours in Tempe. Anyway, I have a moustache. Lately non-bike friends have accused me of growing it to be trendy. This is annoying, I've grown up around people with moustaches. Punks have moustaches, and bike people in particular seem to grow them. I grow facial hair every winter. It doesn't seem abnormal to me, and I don't see why its trendy. Anyways, you know who has a moustache, and has had one for years? Tom Ritchey. Tom Ritchey designed and hand built some of the first mountain bikes with Gary Fisher. He's designed scads of components, rides all over the world, and in hasn't shaved his stache in nigh of 20 years. He's a damn decent guy, and bike nerd to rival the best of them. I saw his moustache and the man today in Sedona at Mountain Bike Heaven. And it was fantastic. Anyways, you can use him as a point of reference for cycling moustaches. Oh yeah, he started this http://projectrwanda.org/ He's the first guy listed on the board of directors. Maybe that is on topic, project rwanda rules also. On Mar 1, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Jason Tanzman wrote: > I think a central component of the "magazine" section and resource > library should be zines. They are almost always local, place- > specific, and grassroots. There are some seriously awesome zines > out there - about bike trailer construction, commuting, and tons > more - the best local zine here in Minneapolis is Dames on Frames, > a feminist analysis of the biking movement locally and globally. > Microcosm publishing has a great collection available for purchase > (and it's super easy to set up a wholesale account with them). > > The other suggested books are great. I've been thinking for a > while that our shop should set up a resource library for folks to > either check out or use in the shop. > -Jason Tanzman > Sibley Bike Depot, St. Paul MN > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank- > leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org Patrick Leahy Graphic Designer / Creative Consultant 480-678-8191 patrick(a)patrickleahydesign.com _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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a note on email lists and sharing addresses
by Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Please *ask* before subscribing anyone to lists or including think tank email addresses in mass emails! Think Tank is the only listserv we subscribe to... but somehow we are getting included/added to others without a request or notification from the list or anything. Thanks. Urban Bike Project of Wilmington -a 501(c)3 non-profit bike shop- 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801 Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00 Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org

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next bike talk
by bike talk 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Ines Brunn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co9Is-NbqlU Bob Giordano of Free Cycles Missoula Somerset Waters of Bicycle Kitchen Steve Owens, trainer Reportback from Amgen tour by Larry Hoffman The theme this week: cargo bikes Call in @ (213) 252-0998 -- please let me know if you want to be taken off this list. Hear Bike Talk! on kpfk: http://www.kpfk.org/programs/170-bike-talk.html or see what's new with us at biketalk.us

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Re: [TheThinkTank] [SLC Bike Collective] babies and bikes
by Bruce Lien 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

We were informed by our kids' pediatrician that infants under 1 year of age should NOT ride in trailers behind bikes due to the potential brain injury from the jostling. I noticed that the adaptive soft, snuggling seats all spoke about use in their "strollers" to jog with. Bottom line, don't trailer a kid under 12 months. --- On Thu, 2/26/09, krisha <krisha.marie(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: krisha <krisha.marie(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] [SLC Bike Collective] babies and bikes To: mtbiker62(a)comcast.net Cc: "SLC Bicycle Collective" <community(a)slcbikecollective.org>, "Shea Pickelner" <shea(a)cityacademyslc.org>, "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:49 PM Ryan - I don't think you're off on this subject at all! An infant too young could easily be injured (even if not visibly) while in a trailer. I do however think it can depend if you have a cheap trailer vs. a model with shock absorption features etc. Also if you are on a newly paved road vs. an older bumpy road. Continual shaking of a newborn on a bike ride is not something I'd recommend though. Bob - Child carriers are an absolute MUST for mom and dad to have! They have those you've linked and also slings/mei tai are options as well. They're great for any time you need free hands, happy babies, and hiking of course. As far as putting it into a bike trailer for security.. I can't recommend that as they can be unsturdy, bulky, and may not fit in properly. I've seen dozens of parents come to the downtown farmers market with infants in trailers under 12 months! I haven't done it myself, but have been commuting with my toddler for a almost a full year now. I'd stick with a Chariot for an infant and then Burley as a runner up for trailer choices. Chariot makes a baby supporter for infants 3 -18 months. http://www.chariotcarriers.com/english/html/accessories.php?accID=3 Burley makes a baby snuggler for infants 3-12 months. http://www.burley.com/products/accessories/index.cfm I'd chose a Britax car seat if I were to use one in a trailer. http://www.britaxusa.com/safety/what-safe-reason.aspx http://www.britaxusa.com/products/product_detail.aspx?ID=2 Any of the infants I've come across in trailers are in car seats. I do recommend waiting until your infant can sit up though which would occur sometime between 4-7 months. There is always public transportation and taking turns with dad staying home when going out. Trust me it goes by quick and there is always a way! Congratulations Shea! Krisha -- Krisha Pessa Youth Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-931-0895 f: 801-466-3856 krisha(a)slcbikecollective.org www.slcbikecollective.org -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Keep a look out for these high profile bikes...
by Bruce Lien 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

David is such a great guy. I hope they catch whoever stole his things and justice is served. And hopefully David will be able to focus on the next mountains he has to conquer. --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Jonathan Morrison <jonathan(a)slcbikecollective.org> wrote: From: Jonathan Morrison <jonathan(a)slcbikecollective.org> Subject: [TheThinkTank] Keep a look out for these high profile bikes... To: "SLC Bicycle Collective" <community(a)slcbikecollective.org>, mbac(a)cyclingutah.com, "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Cc: "Yield to Life Y2L" <yield2life(a)gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 3:35 PM http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5683324 Dave Zabriskie: http://yieldtolife.org/ http://www.davezabriskie.com/ Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/ The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic
by james blesdoe 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

How many bikes can you make from a hummer I hope this Comm major is enlightened in this interaction. but on the other hand does it mater how we get them out of the car and on to the bike a good deal of the lemmings in cars didn't make the choice to drive from their point of view they had no options cars were just what people do to survive. The times are only going to make it harder for us and better in the long run for our movement. In Los Angeles " fixed gear hipsters" are every where or so i am told when i see someone on a bike, fixed or not, i see one less car. If it becomes chic to use bicycles we win! If style mavens every where identify with bicycles we win! still I would be inclined not to be interviewed by this guy we have a long way to go. Jim --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 7:16 AM if someone uses a term like "fixed gear hipster" they have answered like 3/4 of those questions they wanted to ask us On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Boson Au <boson.au(a)gmail.com> wrote: hahah wow "Hi we'd like to undermine any genuine altruistic motivations your organization has by having your representation in our snarky tongue in cheek final project." On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Erik Stockmeier <estockme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From a local clown ... > > > Subject: Interview > To: info(a)therecyclery.org > > > My name is David, and I am a Sophomore here at Northwestern. I am taking a > class called Persuasive Images in the School of Comm, and have chosen to do > a my final project on the idea of "Recession Chic". My group and I are > interested in why those who can spend whatever they want, choose to emulate > a more modest lifestyle. Regardless of the actual savings, the appearance of > budgeting and thrift is now stylish. One aspect of the recession chic > lifestyle that we are looking into is bicycle riding. I was curious if you > could tell us a little about the motivations for bicycle riding, health, > style (as in fixed gear hipsters), going green, etc. Also I am curious as to > how your collective has been doing with the recession. > > I would love to talk with you, and ideally, I would love to be able to > videotape the interview if you feel comfortable with that. If this is > something that you would be up for, let me know when you are available this > coming week! > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration. > > Hope to have the opportunity to meet you soon, > David > > > > -- > The Recyclery > 847.424.1419 > 735 Reba Place, Basement > Evanston, IL 60202 > www.therecyclery.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- froilan eliseo landeros -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic
by james blesdoe 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Good point Wilbur, --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Wilbur Ince <wilbur(a)wilbur.us> wrote: From: Wilbur Ince <wilbur(a)wilbur.us> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 9:33 AM You have an opportunity to engage with a real human being. He is looking to understand the world he lives in. This is where bicycle evangelism starts, and where communal understanding grows. You have something to learn from this person, go find out what it is. Is he wrong for being the product of his society? Are you better/smarter/wiser because you have had a different experience on this planet? Wilbur james blesdoe wrote: How many bikes can you make from a hummer I hope this Comm major is enlightened in this interaction. but on the other hand does it mater how we get them out of the car and on to the bike a good deal of the lemmings in cars didn't make the choice to drive from their point of view they had no options cars were just what people do to survive. The times are only going to make it harder for us and better in the long run for our movement. In Los Angeles " fixed gear hipsters" are every where or so i am told when i see someone on a bike, fixed or not, i see one less car. If it becomes chic to use bicycles we win! If style mavens every where identify with bicycles we win! still I would be inclined not to be interviewed by this guy we have a long way to go. Jim --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Froilan Eliseo Landeros <froilanderos(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recession Chic To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 7:16 AM if someone uses a term like "fixed gear hipster" they have answered like 3/4 of those questions they wanted to ask us On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Boson Au <boson.au(a)gmail.com> wrote: hahah wow "Hi we'd like to undermine any genuine altruistic motivations your organization has by having your representation in our snarky tongue in cheek final project." On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Erik Stockmeier <estockme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From a local clown ... > > > Subject: Interview > To: info(a)therecyclery.org > > > My name is David, and I am a Sophomore here at Northwestern. I am taking a > class called Persuasive Images in the School of Comm, and have chosen to do > a my final project on the idea of "Recession Chic". My group and I are > interested in why those who can spend whatever they want, choose to emulate > a more modest lifestyle. Regardless of the actual savings, the appearance of > budgeting and thrift is now stylish. One aspect of the recession chic > lifestyle that we are looking into is bicycle riding. I was curious if you > could tell us a little about the motivations for bicycle riding, health, > style (as in fixed gear hipsters), going green, etc. Also I am curious as to > how your collective has been doing with the recession. > > I would love to talk with you, and ideally, I would love to be able to > videotape the interview if you feel comfortable with that. If this is > something that you would be up for, let me know when you are available this > coming week! > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration. > > Hope to have the opportunity to meet you soon, > David > > > > -- > The Recyclery > 847.424.1419 > 735 Reba Place, Basement > Evanston, IL 60202 > www.therecyclery.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- froilan eliseo landeros -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Summer Northeast Bike Collective Documentary (i need volunteers for places I can stay and shoot)
by Cris Shirley 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hey! My name's Cris Shirley, I'm a student at Yale in Environmental Studies, and I'm making documentary on bike collectives in the northeast for my senior thesis (Environmental Studies degree). I'm planning to start shooting at the beginning of the summer, riding my bike to the collectives, and staying for around a week. I'm trying to get my contacts and schedule laid out now so I can pack in a much over the summer as possible. I wanted to give collectives a heads up, and if your interested in getting filmed, or your collective included, or if you could host me for a bit of time in town, etc. Any references to people or places that might be good to film would be great too. Also, I'm looking for some *stock footage* or stuff that's been shot on bike collectives that I might be able to include in my documentary, so I'd like to talk to anyone that has done any camera or audio work that might be interested in sharing. On that note, any *music* that has been made that works with theme of collectives, bikes, etc would be awesome to try to include in the project. Also, if you have any art or are an artist that would like to be included in the project. Thanks! Cris

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Recession Chic
by Erik Stockmeier 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

>From a local clown ... Subject: Interview To: info(a)therecyclery.org My name is David, and I am a Sophomore here at Northwestern. I am taking a class called Persuasive Images in the School of Comm, and have chosen to do a my final project on the idea of "Recession Chic". My group and I are interested in why those who can spend whatever they want, choose to emulate a more modest lifestyle. Regardless of the actual savings, the appearance of budgeting and thrift is now stylish. One aspect of the recession chic lifestyle that we are looking into is bicycle riding. I was curious if you could tell us a little about the motivations for bicycle riding, health, style (as in fixed gear hipsters), going green, etc. Also I am curious as to how your collective has been doing with the recession. I would love to talk with you, and ideally, I would love to be able to videotape the interview if you feel comfortable with that. If this is something that you would be up for, let me know when you are available this coming week! Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Hope to have the opportunity to meet you soon, David -- The Recyclery 847.424.1419 735 Reba Place, Basement Evanston, IL 60202 www.therecyclery.org

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Proper way to dispose of dirty rags?
by Boson Au 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

What is everyone's method of disposing rags that are just too infused with grease and other dangerous substances? We've been just more or less storing ours in fireproof containers but we really need a proper, environmentally safe, and hopefully not too costly method of disposal.

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Deciding which kid gets to ride first in line
by Rich Points 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

Hey All, We do various youth activities through the shop and one thing always comes up when we ride with 10-15 year old kids; they all want to ride in the front of the single file "peloton". In this context it actually means second because they follow the class instructor. Does anyone have ideas about a fair way of who gets the number one spot? Thanks -- Rich Points Community Cycles Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 Donate your old car to Community Cycles

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