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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 184, Issue 2
by Dylan Horne 07 Feb '22

07 Feb '22

Here are the reference sheets we provide for Earn A BIke folks. -Dylan On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 4:03 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Earn A Bike Programs (Dylan Horne) > 2. Re: Earn A Bike Programs (cyclista(a)inventati.org) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dylan Horne <dylanrosshorne(a)gmail.com> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 06:13:47 -0500 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Earn A Bike Programs > Hi Y'all, > > At The Pedal Factory in Salisbury, NC, we developed a worksheet for > Earn-A-Bike folks to work through (attached). The worksheet guides them > through our shop mission, basic bike maintenance skills, how to select a > bike, learning the parts of the bike and common tools, as well as safe > riding techniques. They also complete 3 volunteer tasks around the shop, as > their sweat equity contribution. Depending on the need for that day, it > could be cleaning up, sorting parts, unloading the trailer, moving bikes, > or whatever special task might need to be done. They also breakdown one > bike, usually a junker, to get salvageable parts for our used parts > inventory, and to introduce them to turning wrenches. It's much easier to > have people take bikes apart than to try and teach each of them the ins and > outs of fixing up whole bikes. > > We have volunteers prepare bikes that are potential earn-a-bikes, usually > department store bikes that we value around $100. More expensive bikes can > be earned, but the participant must volunteer additional hours/tasks to > make up the difference, or pay the difference. The volunteers get the bikes > to 90-95% ready to go, so that we can check over the bike with the > Earn-A-Bike participant and fix a thing or two and get them on their way. > Once the worksheet is completed, the participant earns their chosen bike, a > helmet, lights and a lock. We take each person on a safety ride to insure > safe riding techniques and to answer additional questions. > > Folks must sign up for Earn-A-Bikes and we have two slots each open shop > day for Earn-A-Bikes. About 60% of people actually come back for their > allotted time. Having folks sign up helps us to manage our time, as well as > reducing the amount of folks that just want to walk in and get a free bike. > We tell folks that it takes 6-8 hours to complete (2 shop days), but some > folks are really proficient and can finish it in 4 hours or so. > > Before this, we had a set amount of volunteer hours that must be > completed to earn a bike. We decided to switch to the worksheet to keep > folks focused on what they needed to accomplish, increasing most folks' > ability to work independently. We also created some reference materials > that contain the answers to the worksheets, so folks have a nice laminated > guide to go by. When we had an hour based system, a lot of staff and > volunteer time was spent trying to get people focused on productive things > instead of just waiting to get the hours. > > We have a similar program for youth, with a similar worksheet that they > work through. We don't require youth to complete volunteer tasks or > breakdown bikes, but some participate in these ways voluntarily. > > In 2021, 88 people completed earn-a-bikes. The worksheet system was really > helpful in delivering uniform requirements and expectations for all > participants. It also provides a great way for us to track the demographics > and how many people utilize this service. > > Thanks, > Dylan > > -- > Dylan Horne, Ph.D. > They / Them > freewheelingdylan.wordpress.com > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: cyclista(a)inventati.org > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 16:26:58 +0000 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Earn A Bike Programs > Dylan, I love the idea of a worksheet to keep participants focused and a > workbook to reference for basic things; having basic reference > materials, for instance hanging at each workstand, could also de-center > the instructor in potentially useful ways. > > Are the reference materials handy to upload as well? That would be > interesting to see. > > ~cyclista Nicholas > > On 2022-02-02 11:13, Dylan Horne wrote: > > Hi Y'all, > > > > At The Pedal Factory in Salisbury, NC, we developed a worksheet for > > Earn-A-Bike folks to work through (attached). The worksheet guides them > > through our shop mission, basic bike maintenance skills, how to select > > a > > bike, learning the parts of the bike and common tools, as well as safe > > riding techniques. They also complete 3 volunteer tasks around the > > shop, as > > their sweat equity contribution. Depending on the need for that day, it > > could be cleaning up, sorting parts, unloading the trailer, moving > > bikes, > > or whatever special task might need to be done. They also breakdown one > > bike, usually a junker, to get salvageable parts for our used parts > > inventory, and to introduce them to turning wrenches. It's much easier > > to > > have people take bikes apart than to try and teach each of them the ins > > and > > outs of fixing up whole bikes. > > > > We have volunteers prepare bikes that are potential earn-a-bikes, > > usually > > department store bikes that we value around $100. More expensive bikes > > can > > be earned, but the participant must volunteer additional hours/tasks to > > make up the difference, or pay the difference. The volunteers get the > > bikes > > to 90-95% ready to go, so that we can check over the bike with the > > Earn-A-Bike participant and fix a thing or two and get them on their > > way. > > Once the worksheet is completed, the participant earns their chosen > > bike, a > > helmet, lights and a lock. We take each person on a safety ride to > > insure > > safe riding techniques and to answer additional questions. > > > > Folks must sign up for Earn-A-Bikes and we have two slots each open > > shop > > day for Earn-A-Bikes. About 60% of people actually come back for their > > allotted time. Having folks sign up helps us to manage our time, as > > well as > > reducing the amount of folks that just want to walk in and get a free > > bike. > > We tell folks that it takes 6-8 hours to complete (2 shop days), but > > some > > folks are really proficient and can finish it in 4 hours or so. > > > > Before this, we had a set amount of volunteer hours that must be > > completed to earn a bike. We decided to switch to the worksheet to keep > > folks focused on what they needed to accomplish, increasing most folks' > > ability to work independently. We also created some reference materials > > that contain the answers to the worksheets, so folks have a nice > > laminated > > guide to go by. When we had an hour based system, a lot of staff and > > volunteer time was spent trying to get people focused on productive > > things > > instead of just waiting to get the hours. > > > > We have a similar program for youth, with a similar worksheet that they > > work through. We don't require youth to complete volunteer tasks or > > breakdown bikes, but some participate in these ways voluntarily. > > > > In 2021, 88 people completed earn-a-bikes. The worksheet system was > > really > > helpful in delivering uniform requirements and expectations for all > > participants. It also provides a great way for us to track the > > demographics > > and how many people utilize this service. > > > > Thanks, > > Dylan > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > -- Dylan Horne, Ph.D. They / Them freewheelingdylan.wordpress.com

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National Safety Policy
by eric＠bikeerie.org 03 Feb '22

03 Feb '22

Hello Fellow Tankers, On the League of American Bicyclists <https://bikeleague.org/content/top-12-actions-national-roadway-safety-strat…> website there is a posting on a future policy on the National Safety Policy. When the new president started talking about Build Back Better my thoughts went to bike lanes, education, safety infrastructure, etc. Not too sure if or when any of that will occur. The important event that I wanted to get out to everyone is the League is providing a webinar on the details on implementation. I couldn’t find anything for a link to it except on Instagram as shown below: Thank you to all the keep this forum going. Eric Brozell BikeErie.org BOD

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Earn A Bike Programs
by Dylan Horne 02 Feb '22

02 Feb '22

Hi Y'all, At The Pedal Factory in Salisbury, NC, we developed a worksheet for Earn-A-Bike folks to work through (attached). The worksheet guides them through our shop mission, basic bike maintenance skills, how to select a bike, learning the parts of the bike and common tools, as well as safe riding techniques. They also complete 3 volunteer tasks around the shop, as their sweat equity contribution. Depending on the need for that day, it could be cleaning up, sorting parts, unloading the trailer, moving bikes, or whatever special task might need to be done. They also breakdown one bike, usually a junker, to get salvageable parts for our used parts inventory, and to introduce them to turning wrenches. It's much easier to have people take bikes apart than to try and teach each of them the ins and outs of fixing up whole bikes. We have volunteers prepare bikes that are potential earn-a-bikes, usually department store bikes that we value around $100. More expensive bikes can be earned, but the participant must volunteer additional hours/tasks to make up the difference, or pay the difference. The volunteers get the bikes to 90-95% ready to go, so that we can check over the bike with the Earn-A-Bike participant and fix a thing or two and get them on their way. Once the worksheet is completed, the participant earns their chosen bike, a helmet, lights and a lock. We take each person on a safety ride to insure safe riding techniques and to answer additional questions. Folks must sign up for Earn-A-Bikes and we have two slots each open shop day for Earn-A-Bikes. About 60% of people actually come back for their allotted time. Having folks sign up helps us to manage our time, as well as reducing the amount of folks that just want to walk in and get a free bike. We tell folks that it takes 6-8 hours to complete (2 shop days), but some folks are really proficient and can finish it in 4 hours or so. Before this, we had a set amount of volunteer hours that must be completed to earn a bike. We decided to switch to the worksheet to keep folks focused on what they needed to accomplish, increasing most folks' ability to work independently. We also created some reference materials that contain the answers to the worksheets, so folks have a nice laminated guide to go by. When we had an hour based system, a lot of staff and volunteer time was spent trying to get people focused on productive things instead of just waiting to get the hours. We have a similar program for youth, with a similar worksheet that they work through. We don't require youth to complete volunteer tasks or breakdown bikes, but some participate in these ways voluntarily. In 2021, 88 people completed earn-a-bikes. The worksheet system was really helpful in delivering uniform requirements and expectations for all participants. It also provides a great way for us to track the demographics and how many people utilize this service. Thanks, Dylan -- Dylan Horne, Ph.D. They / Them freewheelingdylan.wordpress.com

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Volunteer Management Technology
by Bayley VanderCrowd 31 Jan '22

31 Jan '22

Hi Thinktank! I’d like to share how we track our volunteers and see how others track them. We’re looking for something more integrated. Are there any commercial off the shelf software you use? Maybe we’re missing something easier and better. With that said, Vélocity Bicycle Coop in Alexandria Virginia does the following: -We use a Google form for volunteer shifts. -We use a Slack channel to communicate to the others when we’ll be volunteering -We use Meetup.com for volunteer nights. (If anyone is interested in setting up a meetup group for free, we have a free group to giveaway. Just LMK!) -We use a Google form to track what hours volunteers have performed. Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. Thank you everyone! Bayley Vanderpoel Board Member Velocity Bicycle Coop Alexandria, VA -- Bayley Vanderpoel VéloCity Bicycle Cooperative Bayley.Vanderpoel(a)velocitycoop.org 703-863-4464

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Hiring: Bike Church in Santa Cruz, CA
by Bike Church Santa Cruz 26 Jan '22

26 Jan '22

Hi all, We are hiring! Our shop is run collectively, everyone is paid the same, which is $15 an hour, and this is only a part time opportunity, about 6-20 hours per week. Just thought I'd throw it out there and see if anyone is in town and looking for a part-time labor of love. :) See full description here: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/npo/d/santa-cruz-community-bicycle-shop-hi… If interested please apply by February 1. Thanks! Nik

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Job Opening: Community Programs Manager at Working Bikes in Chicago
by Anna Henschel 25 Jan '22

25 Jan '22

Hi Everyone, After 3 wonderful years at Working Bikes I'll be leaving my post as Community Programs Manager at Working Bikes at the end of February and looking for something great to take over the position. The position involves working with and instructing a big group of incredibly dedicated and hardworking volunteers, managing the local donation program (last year we fixed up and donated 1348 bikes for Chicagoans!), helping to coordinate the shipment of bikes to international partners (over 6500 in 2021!), planning community events, and more. The CPM works with other staff to help support all aspects of the organization and is a very well supported position. There's always something new going on, so there's never a dull day. The position is full time, Tuesday-Saturday, and comes with great benefits. Health insurance, paid holidays, vacation, and sick time! I wouldn't be leaving the job if I could find a way to take it with me on my cross country move, but alas, that's not an option. Take a look at job description linked below and feel free to reach out if you have any questions Community Programs Manager <https://workingbikes.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Community-Programs-Mana…> Anna -- *Anna Henschel, Community Programs Manager, Working Bikes* 2434 S Western Ave, Chicago, IL 60608 773-657-8419 Pronouns: She/Her/Hers anna(a)workingbikes.org

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Job Opportunity: Bike Mechanic and Program Director
by lori newton 25 Jan '22

25 Jan '22

Hey everyone, The Windsor Bike Kitchen is seeking a shop manager and program director to help us deliver on our vision of more people cycling for everyday transportation in Windsor-Essex. The successful candidate will have a passion for cycling, possess solid wrenching skills, and have a desire to connect community through outreach and the delivery of our cycling programs. The position is full time, currently Tuesday to Saturday — paying $20/hr with generous health benefits and access to transportation. We’re located in Canada’s southernmost region on the south side of the Detroit River. We’ll keep the application open until the position is filled. You can check us out here: https://bikewindsoressex.com/the-bike-kitchen-is-hiring-2/ <https://bikewindsoressex.com/the-bike-kitchen-is-hiring-2/> Thanks everybody, wishing you all the best in 2022! Lori Newton (she/her) Executive Director Bike Windsor Essex + The Bike Kitchen www.bikewindsoressex.com 628 Monmouth Road Windsor, ON N8Y 3L1 226.216.5200

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Bicycle disaster response teams
by Collapsing Biosphere 17 Jan '22

17 Jan '22

Hello hello! I live in North Carolina where hurricanes are increasing in force and reach. I'm looking for any stories or practical advice related to organizing bicycle based disaster response teams. -- I've read all available information on the Disaster Relief Trials in the Pacific Northwest. -- I've found a few stories from post-hurricane Sandy, Harvey, and Ida. -- I've NOT been able to find practical information/theory on the actual use of bicycles in post-hurricane, fire, or flood situation. If anyone would like to open this conversation with me I'd be very grateful. Disaster Relief Trials - https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/handle/1794/18475 International bicycle rider solidarity, Joshua

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 183, Issue 5
by Lawrence Mohammed 17 Jan '22

17 Jan '22

If it's helpful....here's how our gift economy model has evolved * Idea #1 [there was no external support or funding at this stage - just me running an experiment on my weekends] o This was literally a large mason jar where people could donate after having received a bike service or a lesson in bike maintenance (originally, there were four courses; intro, basic, intermediate, advanced) o I didn't differentiate between parts (many new) or labour o Results + Takings after 8months (weekends only) came to around £2000, once parts were factored in, this more than halved + Only those well versed with cycling (and some mechanical knowledge) knew the value of servicing. The perceived value of maintenance training varied even more widely + Some people HATED the donation jar and idea of 'pay what you feel', some loved it. Most people who hated it appeared time poor and cash rich [I felt they wanted a simple transaction] * Idea #2 [now with some funding] o parts had to be paid for, even used parts [these have been fully cleaned, inspected, lubed/etc and where necessary - fitted, test ridden and removed - i.e not just a box of random parts that have been stripped and left] o there was now a bank account [people were given details and left to pay as and when they felt like it and how much they felt] o Results + A glass jar gave pressure for people for give then and there, also some people don't use cash (others only use cash) - for those who use cash, this has and will always be acceptable too + I refused to ask people to tick boxes on what disability they had or what ethnic group or sexual orientation or age they were...for same reasons previously given + Gifting roughly doubled * Idea #3 [how it's been running for the last couple years] o We have a 'value list' for servicing and training clearly laid out on the door of the workshop and (less clearly!) on the website o People pay what and when they feel called to. There are no demands for payment. If people ask why we operate this way, I explain about 'gift economics' and sharing economies (the workshop is adjacent to some of the most expensive bits of real estate in London - yet also within 15minutes walk of some of the poorest with 2nd highest rate of homelessness and child deprivation in the whole country) o If people haven't gifted anything and said they would, I will sometimes send them an email or call a few weeks later. Sometimes they've forgotten, sometimes they just won't want to gift anything...in almost five years of trading, a only a few people have done this. We're known as the highest quality bike servicing enterprise in the area (we've serviced bikes for Olympic Medal winners) and our training is also second to none o We also have Paypal (linked to our account) and Coupay. We are considering adding a crypto account for Etherium and Bitcoin when the business scales up o Results + From servicing, _we take roughly 85-90% of what a 'normal' workshop would make_. We gift bikes to victims of crime whenever we can (building up bikes from scratch is good practice for volunteers) and our community knows and likes what we do with many high earners 'overpaying' for the value of services and many people gifting parts and offering to gift skills and services (which often, we can gift on by bridging community connections) + We're the ONLY workshop that has not yet been broken into in the area. + Funding largely comes from revenue, not grants/donations, but this is good as it doesn't require intensive form filling....we are looking at digitising impact measurement and added value though In service, *Lawrence Mohammed* CEO and Founder Pro Bike Service C.I.C. *+44 (0)77 222 58587* *probikeservice.co.uk <https://probikeservice.co.uk>* /::Olympic Park Site:: Pro Bike Service C.I.C. Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park Canalside, Hackney Bridge London E15 2SJ *map location <https://what3words.com/cuts.porch.logic>* / On 14/01/2022 21:03, thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Earn-a-Bike Programs (Nicole Muratore) > (cyclista(a)inventati.org) > 2. Re: Budget Bikes (cyclista(a)inventati.org) > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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Budget Bikes
by Josh Bisker 13 Jan '22

13 Jan '22

Look, me and Mac Liman are in Vice! Mostly Mac :) https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxdgq9/mechanics-ask-walmart-major-bike-man… If you missed it, here’s an article I wrote about this subject in 2021. I’m working on another one to try to publish soon! https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2021/03/24/opinion-how-the-budget-bike-trap-cre… -- Josh Bisker | 914-500-9890 | Executive Director, Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> 2022 Donation Drive is ON! Support Bike Equity in NYC Today! <http://bikecoop.nyc/donate> Funkrust Brass Band <http://funkrust.com/> | Kessel Run Radio Show on Maker Park Radio <https://makerparkradio.nyc/shows/the-kessel-run-w-joshjoshjosh/>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Earn-a-Bike Programs (Nicole Muratore)
by Nicole Muratore 13 Jan '22

13 Jan '22

Wow! Very insightful replies so far and cause for me to pause and think about how our "everyone that puts something into the collective, gets something out of it" vibe is preventing us from helping people. Scott, you're absolutely right. Third party vetting certainly takes a lot of skilled work off our shoulders. A hybrid of volunteering, third-party vetting, and even accepting community work done elsewhere will likely be where we land. Nicholas, I'm curious about the pay-what-you-want model and wonder how it would go over in our shop. We're a bike flipper's mecca and these items are often used as currency among our unhoused patrons - especially right now with COVID and folks being unhoused as a result of some major rent hikes. Is it abused much that you know? Are there limits to the level of componentry? Is it this way for bikes, too? Thanks again for the thorough and thoughtful response. Carlyn, do you usually have enough work trade for someone to earn a bike in a reasonable amount of time? Do folks come back and complete their hours most of the time? I love that your program has high utilization! I hope ours will, too. Nicole On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 2:03 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Earn-a-Bike Programs (Nicole Muratore) > 2. Re: Earn-a-Bike Programs (Scott Long) > 3. Re: Earn-a-Bike Programs (cyclista(a)inventati.org) > 4. Re: Earn-a-Bike Programs (Carlyn Arteaga) > 5. Bike!Bike! ?Dondequiera! / Everywhere! 2021 in review / en > revisi?n (Angel York) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nicole Muratore <nicole(a)bikesaviours.org> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:54:39 -0700 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Earn-a-Bike Programs > The last iteration of ours required an individual to volunteer 12 hours of > time in exchange for a bike we'd teach them to fix up, a set of lights, and > a lock. These folks are already facing transportation issues and have > difficulty returning to the shop to complete the hours they started. > > Separate from earn-a-bike we offer work trade at a rate of $10/hour for > shop credit that can be used for stand time or regular-priced parts needed > to fix one's bike. > > If your shop has an earn-a-bike program or similar, how does it work? And > is utilization of the program high? Any input, documentation, etc. is > appreciated! > > Cheers, > *Nicole Muratore, Shop Manager* (she/her) > Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective > (602) 429-9369 | bikesaviours.org | @bikesaviours > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Scott Long <scott.m.long(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:34:33 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Earn-a-Bike Programs > Hi Nicole, > > I'm the Executive Director of BikeAthens here in Athens GA. I've been the > administrator for our Earn A Bike Program for over five years. We use > social service partners in our area to refer clients to us that need > transportation. > > How do you avoid means testing? You do that by letting it be someone > else's job. In theory, you and the other collective members are a) excited > about bikes and b) have other jobs and responsibilities that don't revolve > around being full-time social workers. I don't decide who gets a bike. I > just decide which one they get. The referring organization does the heavy > lifting by having interviewed and worked with the potential client. Often > they are licensed social workers to some extent or another. They are in a > much better position to make that judgment call. It also gives me an easy > way out of the conversation when a random person shows up telling me that > they heard if they come down here they can get a free bike. I even have a > pamphlet I give them that explains our referral process. > > We have a very low threshold for what types of organizations we partner > with. Any reasonably legit third party that is willing to email or call on > behalf of someone they know that needs a bike is in. That is to say, pretty > much any 501c3 non-profit, school or church organization can send a request > on behalf of a client. Our expectations are just that they believe that > having a bike would help their client better find a job, get to school, and > access social services or healthcare. We don't require an MOU unless they > want one. Some partner organizations have their own criteria for whether or > not they will send us a request. For example, the Salvation Army in Athens > will only send a referral if the client already has a job. A local > addiction recovery organization requires the client to sign a contract that > they will take care of the bike, keep it locked, and return it if they are > no longer using it. If the partner organization would like to protect a > client's identity, that's fine. They can make up a client number or send me > initials. As long as they tell me how tall they are, we're good. > > You may not have the same community partners over time, there is decent > turnover in a lot of other social service organizations and sometimes new > people aren't aware they can even help their clients find help with bikes. > > Let me know if that is helpful or if you have any other questions. > > Thanks > > Scott > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 4:54 PM Nicole Muratore <nicole(a)bikesaviours.org> > wrote: > >> The last iteration of ours required an individual to volunteer 12 hours >> of time in exchange for a bike we'd teach them to fix up, a set of lights, >> and a lock. These folks are already facing transportation issues and have >> difficulty returning to the shop to complete the hours they started. >> >> Separate from earn-a-bike we offer work trade at a rate of $10/hour for >> shop credit that can be used for stand time or regular-priced parts needed >> to fix one's bike. >> >> If your shop has an earn-a-bike program or similar, how does it work? And >> is utilization of the program high? Any input, documentation, etc. is >> appreciated! >> >> Cheers, >> *Nicole Muratore, Shop Manager* (she/her) >> Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective >> (602) 429-9369 | bikesaviours.org | @bikesaviours >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: cyclista(a)inventati.org > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:22:48 +0000 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Earn-a-Bike Programs > Hi Nicole, > > At RIBs, for many years, we had similar requirements to those you > describe for your shop. At one point we also had a different, simpler > system, wherein the applicant was required to fix up one bike for > someone else in order to be allowed to fix up one bike for themselves. > > What we found was exactly what you have found, which was that the > highest need groups found both of these bars too high to reach. In many > cases, the policy was also seen as unfriendly: some people needing the > resource were in an especially high state of life stress, as well as > being subject to social ostracism generally, and being told they must > not only navigate this difficult learning curve, but do work that didn't > further their own immediate (read: urgent) needs was, frankly, > inconsiderate. Even though we at the shop were good people only trying > to help, we just didn't understand. > > So the lesson was that higher order concepts like community development > and mutual aid aren't really great to evangelize to people undergoing > crisis. In kind, that we in the shop had bad calibration wrt what > represented crisis. We might have thought of it as extreme things such > as "are you being evicted" or "have you lost housing because your > partner threatened your life and your only other housing options are > with substance abusing people you had been trying to separate yourself > from because you are trying to stay clean to regain legal custody of > your children", but in reality significant states of crisis can be much > more insidious and mundane. Someone can be in a state of significant, > ongoing crisis simply because they are disrespected at their job and > their childcare involves significant emotional burden, and they feel > unloved in their partner relationship. Crisis can be difficult to > recognize for someone not familiar with it, especially where it stems > from conditions such as generational poverty and trauma. And crisis > isn't necessarily a transitory state. It can last for most or all of a > person's life, especiallly where generational effects are involved. > > So what we did was entirely remove our requirements for volunteering in > return for use of the space, and replaced them with only a > pay-what-you-want requirement for parts and a polite reminder that we > accept donations. > > What we saw was a dramatic reduction in ghosting. Nearly all > participants of every demographic returned to complete their projects. A > rough guess would be that around 2% abandoned projects they started, > most of those being students with busy academic/social schedules or > hobbyists who lost interest in a frivolous idea. Over the four years we > had these relaxed policies, nearly all in-need participants completed > their bikes (or repairs) and left with safe and satisfying wheels under > them. > > This higher rate of effectiveness did come at a cost, however. When we > had volunteer requirements, it did force a lot more people to stay and > be part of the environment for longer periods of time, contributing to > shop culture and character. Requirements also forced kids to learn: most > of the street-level kids in our community don't stay and learn unless > they are made to. In these cases the reward-incentive-for-work concept > seems to be something that must be imposed, rather than guided or > facilitated, in order to take root. So though we retained significant > child attendance in the case of those visiting with various guardians, > we also lost a lot (actually most) of our solo child participation by > removing requirements. > > In general, I'd say our volunteer community was reduced by about half by > these measures, with only people who volunteered out of passion and joy > remaining. Our shop was small and had never really run on exclusively > volunteer labor except at the beginning (thirty years ago) when it was > even smaller and being run out of random garages, so this wasn't a > lethal change for us. It did create much greater demands/stress on paid > staff and primary volunteers. > > I think it's possible to not go entirely one way or another, for > instance to have volunteer requirements for children but not adults > (though it might be painful to justify to kids who noticed the > disparity), or create tiers of service/use some of which would required > volunteering. We just basically treated the shop as a library and the > staff and primary volunteers as librarians, and let the community use > the space so long as they did so without harming it. > > An idea for a tier of access that could require volunteer hours might be > keyed off-hours access. This is really only sustainable now with the > advent of [more] affordable electronic locks - in the past people with > keys made copies, kept them essentially forever, and any abuse would > require changing the locks. I'd encourage shop budget to be spent on > this kind of lock, or even the more expensive mechanical versions, even > though it involves significant expense. In retrospect, it was the lack > of this investment that prevented us from exploring options such as the > one suggested above, and eventually we were making enough money that we > could have afforded it. It's so difficult to see every option in every > moment when you're busy af with so many things. > > ~cyclista Nicholas > > > > On 2022-01-11 21:54, Nicole Muratore wrote: > > The last iteration of ours required an individual to volunteer 12 hours > > of > > time in exchange for a bike we'd teach them to fix up, a set of lights, > > and > > a lock. These folks are already facing transportation issues and have > > difficulty returning to the shop to complete the hours they started. > > > > Separate from earn-a-bike we offer work trade at a rate of $10/hour for > > shop credit that can be used for stand time or regular-priced parts > > needed > > to fix one's bike. > > > > If your shop has an earn-a-bike program or similar, how does it work? > > And > > is utilization of the program high? Any input, documentation, etc. is > > appreciated! > > > > Cheers, > > *Nicole Muratore, Shop Manager* (she/her) > > Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective > > (602) 429-9369 | bikesaviours.org | @bikesaviours > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Carlyn Arteaga <carlyn.arteaga(a)bicas.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:49:11 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Earn-a-Bike Programs > Hi Nicole, > Carlyn from BICAS in Tucson, AZ here. Our Earn-a-Bike program is > encapsulated into our Work Trade Program -- Folks earn $12/hr to help us > out around the shop and they can use that credit towards 1 bike per year, > used parts, and Community Tools (stand time) to fix it up. All the bikes in > our shop are priced, so folks just calculate how much work they need to do > to earn whichever bike they like. It is a very heavily-used program and we > get referrals from social services orgs all over the county. We currently > have a cap of $200 per person per year, although we are currently > evaluating that cap as well as the Work Trade rate. Feel free to reach out > if you have any other questions. > Sincerely, > ~Carlyn > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:34 PM Scott Long <scott.m.long(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Nicole, >> >> I'm the Executive Director of BikeAthens here in Athens GA. I've been the >> administrator for our Earn A Bike Program for over five years. We use >> social service partners in our area to refer clients to us that need >> transportation. >> >> How do you avoid means testing? You do that by letting it be someone >> else's job. In theory, you and the other collective members are a) excited >> about bikes and b) have other jobs and responsibilities that don't revolve >> around being full-time social workers. I don't decide who gets a bike. I >> just decide which one they get. The referring organization does the heavy >> lifting by having interviewed and worked with the potential client. Often >> they are licensed social workers to some extent or another. They are in a >> much better position to make that judgment call. It also gives me an easy >> way out of the conversation when a random person shows up telling me that >> they heard if they come down here they can get a free bike. I even have a >> pamphlet I give them that explains our referral process. >> >> We have a very low threshold for what types of organizations we partner >> with. Any reasonably legit third party that is willing to email or call on >> behalf of someone they know that needs a bike is in. That is to say, pretty >> much any 501c3 non-profit, school or church organization can send a request >> on behalf of a client. Our expectations are just that they believe that >> having a bike would help their client better find a job, get to school, and >> access social services or healthcare. We don't require an MOU unless they >> want one. Some partner organizations have their own criteria for whether or >> not they will send us a request. For example, the Salvation Army in Athens >> will only send a referral if the client already has a job. A local >> addiction recovery organization requires the client to sign a contract that >> they will take care of the bike, keep it locked, and return it if they are >> no longer using it. If the partner organization would like to protect a >> client's identity, that's fine. They can make up a client number or send me >> initials. As long as they tell me how tall they are, we're good. >> >> You may not have the same community partners over time, there is decent >> turnover in a lot of other social service organizations and sometimes new >> people aren't aware they can even help their clients find help with bikes. >> >> Let me know if that is helpful or if you have any other questions. >> >> Thanks >> >> Scott >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 4:54 PM Nicole Muratore <nicole(a)bikesaviours.org> >> wrote: >> >>> The last iteration of ours required an individual to volunteer 12 hours >>> of time in exchange for a bike we'd teach them to fix up, a set of lights, >>> and a lock. These folks are already facing transportation issues and have >>> difficulty returning to the shop to complete the hours they started. >>> >>> Separate from earn-a-bike we offer work trade at a rate of $10/hour for >>> shop credit that can be used for stand time or regular-priced parts needed >>> to fix one's bike. >>> >>> If your shop has an earn-a-bike program or similar, how does it work? >>> And is utilization of the program high? Any input, documentation, etc. is >>> appreciated! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> *Nicole Muratore, Shop Manager* (she/her) >>> Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective >>> (602) 429-9369 | bikesaviours.org | @bikesaviours >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >>> >>> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > -- > > *Carlyn Arteaga* > > *pronouns: they/them/theirs* > > Youth Program Coordinator > > *BICAS* > > 2001 N. 7th Ave. | Tucson, AZ 85701 | Shop: 520-628-7950 > > carlyn.arteaga(a)bicas.org | www.bicas.org | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/bicascollective/> | Instagram > <http://www.instagram.com/bicastucson/> > > > > *Through advocacy and bicycle salvage, our mission is to participate in > affordable bicycle transportation, education, and creative recycling with > our greater Tucson community.* > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> > <#m_866031958163314982_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Angel York <aniola(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:03:14 -0800 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Bike!Bike! ¡Dondequiera! / Everywhere! 2021 in > review / en revisión > > *Español abajo* > > Hi everyone, > > Thanks for helping make Bike!Bike! Everywhere! 2021 such a hoppin' weekend! > > *OVERVIEW* > > - > > There were a couple dozen events over 3-4 days (depending on how you > count time zones). > - > > About 175 people registered. Or maybe 198! Anyway, lots of people came. > - > > About 1400 US dollars were donated and are being distributed as a > stipend to the interpreters (minus fees). > - > > Piles of people volunteered in one way or another. > - > > New connections have formed. > - > > Friends were made. > - > > 100% of all germs stayed local. > > *ARCHIVED VIDEOS* > Workshops are nearly all posted in English and are still going up in > Spanish. Here's the link to the *archived videos:* > *https://archive.org/details/@bikebikeeverywhere* > <https://archive.org/details/@bikebikeeverywhere> . If you want to help > organize the archive data, please send an email to > bikebikeeverywhere(a)gmail.com. > > *SURVEY RESULTS* > Results from the survey were overwhelmingly positive. Suggestions were > mostly things we know we need to work on, and we're working on them. > They'll happen faster with more committed volunteers, so come join us! We > can find a place for you for a wide range of roles/interests and at every > skill level. > > *GET INVOLVED WITH BIKE!BIKE! EVERYWHERE!* > > *If you've tried to reach out and get involved before* and didn't get to > put your awesome skills to their best use, *please try again. We'd love > to have you.* We have a better sense of what needs doing. There's more > work than volunteers, we're all having a lot of fun, and we'd love your > company. > > *If there is enough core volunteer availability, there will probably be > another B!B!E! in early November 2022. We need you to help make it happen! > Here's how:* > > - > > Join the new *planning email list* at > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/bikebike-everywhere-bikecolle… > and start *attending meetings* ( > https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Meetings_and_minutes). > - > > Find something to do the *volunteer roles* list at > https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_Volunteer_Roles > and email bikebikeeverywhere(a)gmail.com. > > *BIKE!BIKE! MEXICO CITY 2022* > Mujerxs al Pedal (mujerxsalpedal(a)gmail.com) is hosting an in-person > Bike!Bike! in Mexico City (CDMX) June or July 2022. They are planning to do > a partial hybrid with online streaming. B!B!E! and B!B!CDMX are in contact > and working together to share resources. *Stay tuned at* *bikebike.org* > <http://bikebike.org> *for B!B!CDMX sign-ups (coming soon).* > ------------------------------ > > Hola a todxs, > > Gracias por ayudarnos a que Bike!Bike! En todas partes! 2021 fuera un fin > de semana tan animado. > > *INFORMACIÓN GENERAL* > > - > > Hubo dos docenas de eventos a lo largo de 3 o 4 días (dependiendo de > cómo cuentes los husos horarios). > - > > Se registraron alrededor de 175 personas ¡o tal vez 198! Como sea, > mucha gente vino. > - > > Fueron donados alrededor de 1400 dólares y están siendo distribuidos > (menos algunas cuotas) como remuneración entre lxs intérpretes. > - > > Montones de personas voluntariaron de una manera u otra. > - > > Nuevas conexiones han sido formadas. > - > > Amistades han sido hechas. > - > > 100% de los gérmenes se quedaron en su lugar. > > *VIDEOS ARCHIVADOS* > > Casi todos los talleres fueron subidos en inglés y están siendo subidos en > español. Aquí hay un link a los *videos archivados:* > *https://archive.org/details/@bikebikeeverywhere* > <https://archive.org/details/@bikebikeeverywhere>. Si te interesa ayudar > a organizar la información del archivo, por favor manda un correo a > bikebikeeverywhere(a)gmail.com. > > *RESULTADOS DE LA ENCUESTA* > Los resultados de la encuesta fueron abrumadoramente positivos. Las > sugerencias fueron mayormente cosas que sabemos que tenemos que trabajar, y > estamos trabajando en ellas. Se lograrán más rápidamente con más > voluntarixs dedicadxs, ¡así que únete a nosotrxs! Podemos encontrar un > lugar para ti dentro de un amplio rango de roles/intereses y en cualquier > nivel. > > *INVOLÚCRATE CON BIKE!BIKE! EN TODAS PARTES!* > > *Si trataste de acercarte e involucrarte antes* y no pudiste aprovechar > tus geniales habilidades, *por favor inténtalo de nuevo. Nos encantaría > tenerte.* Ya tenemos una mejor idea de lo que necesita hacerse. Hay más > trabajo que voluntarixs, todxs nos estamos divirtiendo mucho y nos > encantaría contar con tu compañía. > > *Si hay suficiente disponibilidad de voluntarixs, probablemente habrá otro > B!B!E! a principios de noviembre de 2022. Necesitamos de tu ayuda para > hacer que eso suceda! Aquí está cómo apoyar:* > > - > > Únete a la nueva *lista de correo de planeación* en > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/bikebike-everywhere-bikecolle… > y empieza a *asistir a las reuniones* ( > https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Meetings_and_minutes). > - > > Encuentra algo que hacer en la *lista de roles para voluntarixs,* en > https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_Volunteer_Roles… > y manda un correo a bikebikeeverywhere(a)gmail.com. > > *BIKE!BIKE! CIUDAD DE MÉXICO 2022* > > Mujerxs al Pedal (mujerxsalpedal(a)gmail.com) serán anfirionxs de un > Bike!Bike! en persona en la Ciudad de México (CDMX) en junio o julio de > 2011. Están planeando hacer un evento parcialmente híbrido con > transmisiones en línea. B!B!E! y B!B!CDMX están en contacto y trabajando > juntxs para compartir recursos. *Mantente al pendiente de* *bikebike.org* > <http://bikebike.org/> *para los registros para B!B!CDMX (próximamente).* > ------------------------------ > > This was issue #5 of Bike!Bike! Everywhere!. > You can subscribe <https://buttondown.email/bikebikeeverywhere> or view > this email online > <https://buttondown.email/bikebikeeverywhere/subscribers/3651fb41-ae2f-4dbc-…> > . > <http:///api/emails/canary/3651fb41-ae2f-4dbc-ab0a-dba56dbe9880/553bdfb9-9f60-450b-8783-3d9869d48d98/> > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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Bike!Bike! ¡Dondequiera! / Everywhere! 2021 in review / en revisión
by Angel York 11 Jan '22

11 Jan '22

*Español abajo* Hi everyone, Thanks for helping make Bike!Bike! Everywhere! 2021 such a hoppin' weekend! *OVERVIEW* - There were a couple dozen events over 3-4 days (depending on how you count time zones). - About 175 people registered. Or maybe 198! Anyway, lots of people came. - About 1400 US dollars were donated and are being distributed as a stipend to the interpreters (minus fees). - Piles of people volunteered in one way or another. - New connections have formed. - Friends were made. - 100% of all germs stayed local. *ARCHIVED VIDEOS* Workshops are nearly all posted in English and are still going up in Spanish. Here's the link to the *archived videos:* *https://archive.org/details/@bikebikeeverywhere* <https://archive.org/details/@bikebikeeverywhere> . If you want to help organize the archive data, please send an email to bikebikeeverywhere(a)gmail.com. *SURVEY RESULTS* Results from the survey were overwhelmingly positive. Suggestions were mostly things we know we need to work on, and we're working on them. They'll happen faster with more committed volunteers, so come join us! We can find a place for you for a wide range of roles/interests and at every skill level. *GET INVOLVED WITH BIKE!BIKE! EVERYWHERE!* *If you've tried to reach out and get involved before* and didn't get to put your awesome skills to their best use, *please try again. We'd love to have you.* We have a better sense of what needs doing. There's more work than volunteers, we're all having a lot of fun, and we'd love your company. *If there is enough core volunteer availability, there will probably be another B!B!E! in early November 2022. We need you to help make it happen! Here's how:* - Join the new *planning email list* at http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/bikebike-everywhere-bikecolle… and start *attending meetings* ( https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Meetings_and_minutes). - Find something to do the *volunteer roles* list at https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_Volunteer_Roles and email bikebikeeverywhere(a)gmail.com. *BIKE!BIKE! MEXICO CITY 2022* Mujerxs al Pedal (mujerxsalpedal(a)gmail.com) is hosting an in-person Bike!Bike! in Mexico City (CDMX) June or July 2022. They are planning to do a partial hybrid with online streaming. B!B!E! and B!B!CDMX are in contact and working together to share resources. *Stay tuned at* *bikebike.org* <http://bikebike.org> *for B!B!CDMX sign-ups (coming soon).* ------------------------------ Hola a todxs, Gracias por ayudarnos a que Bike!Bike! En todas partes! 2021 fuera un fin de semana tan animado. *INFORMACIÓN GENERAL* - Hubo dos docenas de eventos a lo largo de 3 o 4 días (dependiendo de cómo cuentes los husos horarios). - Se registraron alrededor de 175 personas ¡o tal vez 198! Como sea, mucha gente vino. - Fueron donados alrededor de 1400 dólares y están siendo distribuidos (menos algunas cuotas) como remuneración entre lxs intérpretes. - Montones de personas voluntariaron de una manera u otra. - Nuevas conexiones han sido formadas. - Amistades han sido hechas. - 100% de los gérmenes se quedaron en su lugar. *VIDEOS ARCHIVADOS* Casi todos los talleres fueron subidos en inglés y están siendo subidos en español. Aquí hay un link a los *videos archivados:* *https://archive.org/details/@bikebikeeverywhere* <https://archive.org/details/@bikebikeeverywhere>. Si te interesa ayudar a organizar la información del archivo, por favor manda un correo a bikebikeeverywhere(a)gmail.com. *RESULTADOS DE LA ENCUESTA* Los resultados de la encuesta fueron abrumadoramente positivos. Las sugerencias fueron mayormente cosas que sabemos que tenemos que trabajar, y estamos trabajando en ellas. Se lograrán más rápidamente con más voluntarixs dedicadxs, ¡así que únete a nosotrxs! Podemos encontrar un lugar para ti dentro de un amplio rango de roles/intereses y en cualquier nivel. *INVOLÚCRATE CON BIKE!BIKE! EN TODAS PARTES!* *Si trataste de acercarte e involucrarte antes* y no pudiste aprovechar tus geniales habilidades, *por favor inténtalo de nuevo. Nos encantaría tenerte.* Ya tenemos una mejor idea de lo que necesita hacerse. Hay más trabajo que voluntarixs, todxs nos estamos divirtiendo mucho y nos encantaría contar con tu compañía. *Si hay suficiente disponibilidad de voluntarixs, probablemente habrá otro B!B!E! a principios de noviembre de 2022. Necesitamos de tu ayuda para hacer que eso suceda! Aquí está cómo apoyar:* - Únete a la nueva *lista de correo de planeación* en http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/bikebike-everywhere-bikecolle… y empieza a *asistir a las reuniones* ( https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Meetings_and_minutes). - Encuentra algo que hacer en la *lista de roles para voluntarixs,* en https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_Volunteer_Roles… y manda un correo a bikebikeeverywhere(a)gmail.com. *BIKE!BIKE! CIUDAD DE MÉXICO 2022* Mujerxs al Pedal (mujerxsalpedal(a)gmail.com) serán anfirionxs de un Bike!Bike! en persona en la Ciudad de México (CDMX) en junio o julio de 2011. Están planeando hacer un evento parcialmente híbrido con transmisiones en línea. B!B!E! y B!B!CDMX están en contacto y trabajando juntxs para compartir recursos. *Mantente al pendiente de* *bikebike.org* <http://bikebike.org/> *para los registros para B!B!CDMX (próximamente).* ------------------------------ This was issue #5 of Bike!Bike! Everywhere!. You can subscribe <https://buttondown.email/bikebikeeverywhere> or view this email online <https://buttondown.email/bikebikeeverywhere/subscribers/3651fb41-ae2f-4dbc-…> . <http:///api/emails/canary/3651fb41-ae2f-4dbc-ab0a-dba56dbe9880/553bdfb9-9f60-450b-8783-3d9869d48d98/>

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Earn-a-Bike Programs
by Nicole Muratore 11 Jan '22

11 Jan '22

The last iteration of ours required an individual to volunteer 12 hours of time in exchange for a bike we'd teach them to fix up, a set of lights, and a lock. These folks are already facing transportation issues and have difficulty returning to the shop to complete the hours they started. Separate from earn-a-bike we offer work trade at a rate of $10/hour for shop credit that can be used for stand time or regular-priced parts needed to fix one's bike. If your shop has an earn-a-bike program or similar, how does it work? And is utilization of the program high? Any input, documentation, etc. is appreciated! Cheers, *Nicole Muratore, Shop Manager* (she/her) Bike Saviours Bicycle Collective (602) 429-9369 | bikesaviours.org | @bikesaviours

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Queen City Bicycle Collective is looking for an Executive Director
by Tyler Glodt 10 Jan '22

10 Jan '22

Hey y'all, Queen City Bicycle Collective in beautiful Manchester, New Hampshire is looking for an Executive Director. If you're interested, or know some folks who might be, we'd love to hear from you. We've attached the job description for your consideration. Peace and health to y'all, QC Bike -- Tyler Glodt he/him Shop Manager Queen City Bicycle Collective 35 Elm Street Manchester, NH (603) 493-1720 qcbike.org <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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Cabrillo Bike Co-op is Hiring in Aptos
by Aaron Shaw 07 Jan '22

07 Jan '22

Hey bike people around the world! My former bike collective is looking for a part time "co-operator" to help bring some life into the shop. The Cabrillo Bike Co-op is an on-campus, student run bike collective project at Cabrillo College in Aptos (Near Santa Cruz and very close to paradise <https://go.boarddocs.com/ca/cabrillo/Board.nsf/files/WELCOME_IMAGE/$file/Ca…>!). In order to be hired as a paid employee, you will need to be enrolled at Cabrillo in at least 6 units. It would be a great fit for someone looking to study and get paid to be part of an awesome DIY focused shop/community space. I know it's a long shot but I'm just trying to spread the word. Cabrillo is a beautiful place and has some great faculty and classes. The years I spent there were some of the best ever. Let me know if you have any questions. The dream combo is to take classes at Cabrillo, work at the bike co-op, and ride for Pedex Santa Cruz <http://pedxsc.com/>. Trust me!! Aaron

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Sharing Wheels hiring bike mechanic in Everett, WA
by Kristin Kinnamon 06 Jan '22

06 Jan '22

Sharing Wheels Community Bike Shop in Everett, WA is looking for an experienced bicycle mechanic to make a difference in our community. It's an exciting time to join our 20-year-old nonprofit north of Seattle. We seek a bike mechanic to refurbish used bikes, empower customers to fix their own bikes, and educate volunteers to help with bike repair. Learn more on our website: https://sharingwheels.org/about/job-openings/ Kristin Kinnamon Sharing Wheels Community Bike Shop, board president B.I.K.E.S. Club of Snohomish County, past president 425-923-7868 (personal cell)

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Bike Works Seattle is hiring!
by Jess Green 06 Jan '22

06 Jan '22

Bike Works is hiring a full-time Operations Coordinator! Compensation is $23.50 - $26.75/hr + excellent benefits. More info and application instructions on our website: https://bikeworks.org/about/job-opportunities/ <http://www.bikeworks.org/> Jess Green *Development Director* she/her pronouns what's this? <https://uwm.edu/lgbtrc/support/gender-pronouns/> 206.687.7229 <https://www.facebook.com/BikeWorksSeattle> <https://twitter.com/bikeworks206> <https://www.instagram.com/bikeworks206/> bikeworks.org *Bike Works promotes the bicycleas a vehicle for change to empoweryouth and build resilient communities.* *Bike Shop: *3709 S Ferdinand St, Seattle, WA 98118 <https://www.google.com/maps/place/3709+S+Ferdinand+St,+Seattle,+WA+98118/@4…> *Office, Warehouse & Classrooms: *3715 S Hudson St #111, Seattle, WA 98118 <https://www.google.com/maps/place/3715+S+Hudson+St,+Seattle,+WA+98118/data=…>

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Bike!Bike! Everywhere Recordings?
by Jean-François Caron 27 Nov '21

27 Nov '21

Were any of the sessions recorded, or are the static materials available (e.g. slides)? Ironically I couldn't attend the "Biking with Babies" session because I was taking care of our new baby. =\ Jean-François

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unsubscribe
by Ulick at Bike Wizards 21 Nov '21

21 Nov '21

Hi there, Can you please UNSUBSCRIBE me from this list? Thank you, U -- *Ulick O'Beirne* *Bike Wizards* Cycling Coaching, Bike Repair & Servicing, Bike Maintenance Workshops Ph. 087 2394 287

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Bike!Bike!Everywhere/Dondequiera starts TODAY comienza HOY
by Angel York 12 Nov '21

12 Nov '21

<https://buttondown.email/bikebikeeverywhere>*Español abajo* Bike!Bike! Everywhere! 2021 <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_2021> starts TODAY. - Check out the Workshop Schedule <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_2021_Workshop_S…> - Visit the Discord Chat <https://discord.gg/yHhSdsnDuJ> *Please forward this final invitation to other community bike people*. *What:* *Bike!Bike! Everywhere! 2021 is the online version of the annual Bike!Bike! - a conference for community bike organizations.* It is an international get-together where people share experiences and ideas about community bike projects. *When: Friday, Nov. 12 ~ Sunday, Nov. 14* *Where: Online.* Zoom for audio/video meetings <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_2021_Workshop_S…> and Discord for text chat <https://discord.gg/yHhSdsnDuJ>. *Who:* Everyone who is involved with or interested in community/non-profit bike projects is invited. We have live interpretation in English and Spanish for audio/video sessions. *Why:* You love bike-related things. You love community. You love communities of bike people. You don't want to travel (pandemic, environmentalism, expense). You want to be a part of a community of community bike people. *How*: You can still register at bikebike.org *Donate to support simultaneous interpretation <https://www.paypal.com/donate?token=Nmy6pcP5IrWCG4LPPoBG4H8_5wyKZ74hdKc2Og5…>* See you soon! ------------------------------------------------------ Bike!Bike! ¡Dondequiera! 2021 <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_2021> comienza HOY. - Mira el Programa de Talleres <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_2021_Workshop_S…> - Visita la sala de chat Discord <https://discord.gg/yHhSdsnDuJ> Por favor envíe esta invitación final a otras personas de la comunidad en bicicleta. *¿Qué es? ¡Bike!Bike! ¡Dondequiera! ¡2021 es la versión en línea de la conferencia anual ¡Bike!Bike! - una conferencia para organizaciones ciclistas y talleres comunitarios.* Se trata de un encuentro internacional en el que se comparten experiencias e ideas sobre proyectos comunitarios en bicicleta. *¿Cuándo? Del viernes 12 al domingo 14 de noviembre.* *¿Dónde? En línea.* Zoom para las reuniones de audio/vídeo <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_2021_Workshop_S…> y Discord para el chat de texto <https://discord.gg/yHhSdsnDuJ>. *¿Quién puede inscribirse?* Cualquier persona que este interesada en proyectos comunitarios/sin ánimo de lucro en bicicleta. Tenemos previsto contar con interpretación simulatanea en inglés y español para las sesiones de audio y vídeo. *¿Por qué?* Te gustan las cosas relacionadas con la bicicleta. Te gusta la comunidad ciclista. No quieres viajar (pandemia, ecologismo, gastos). Quieres formar parte de una comunidad de gente ciclista. *Cómo*: todavía puedes registrarte en bikebike.org <https://es.bikebike.org/> Dona para apoyar intérpretes simultánexs <https://www.paypal.com/donate?token=Nmy6pcP5IrWCG4LPPoBG4H8_5wyKZ74hdKc2Og5…> ¡Nos vemos pronto!

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Bike!Bike! Everywhere News / Noticias de Bike!Bike! Everywhere
by Bike!Bike! Everywhere! 02 Nov '21

02 Nov '21

*****ESPAÑOL ABAJO***** :)* Bike!Bike! Everywhere! 2021 <https://es.bikebike.org/> is a virtual conference for comunity bike projects, happening Friday, November 12 ~ Sunday, November 14. You can still sign up! <https://es.bikebike.org/> *Workshop schedule is POSTED:* - On the wiki: Find the schedule in your time zone <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_2021_Workshop_S…> - Add to Google Calendar <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/6?cid=YmlrZWJpa2VldmVyeXdoZXJlQGdtYW…> - Download an iCal (for non-Google calendar software) <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/bikebikeeverywhere%40gmail.com/pu…> *HERE IS A COPY OF THE BIKE!BIKE! SAFER SPACE AGREEMENT.* <https://en.bikebike.org/policy/>Interpretation Workshops will have bi-directional simultaneous interpretation in Spanish and English. Please be attentive to the interpreters for cues on how to support communication. We Need YOU to Volunteer *PANELISTS WANTED:* Starting a community bike shop: "Hi I'm new to the ThinkTank and I'd like to know how to start a community bike shop" is one of the most common questions we get. Be a panelist. Share your hard-earned knowledge at noon (Eastern US Time) on Saturday. *FACILITATORS WANTED:* Bike!Bike! Everywhere! 2021. If we don't get facilitators, these will happen anyway. However, picking a facilitator will take a few minutes away from the group. Best to volunteer ahead of time so you at least know to expect it! - BIPOC group - Europeans, Australians, Asians, and night owls hang out - Meet & Greet (Friday) - Meet & Greet (Saturday) - Small talk (Saturday) - Small talk (Sunday) - WTF (women/trans/femme group) - On Call (If a workshop gets a lot more people than anticipated, it would be nice to have you on available to join in and help out.) *ON-CALL MEDIATORS NEEDED:* We need more people with mediation training to be available on call, just in case. *TECH VOLUNTEERS:* We need someone to do the online equivalent of "fumbling with the microphone" and "connecting the powerpoint presentation to the overhead projector" for every. single. workshop. It's easy. We'll train you. Please help. There is a DRESS REHEARSAL for Panelists, Facilitators, Interpreters, and Tech Volunteers. It will be on Saturday, November 6 from 10am to 3pm Pacific / 1pm to 6pm Eastern time. ******************** :)* Bike!Bike! Dondequiera! 2021 <https://es.bikebike.org/> es una conferencia virtual para proyectos de bicicletas comunitarios, occuriendo viernes el 12 de noviembre ~ domingo, el 14 de noviembre. Todavía puedes inscribirte! <https://es.bikebike.org/> *El calendario de talleres está PUBLICADO:* - Horario para varias zonas horarias <https://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/Bike!Bike!_Everywhere!_2021_Workshop_S…> - Calendario Google <http://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/6?cid=YmlrZWJpa2VldmVyeXdoZXJlQGdtYWl…> - iCal (para otro software de calendario) <http://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/bikebikeeverywhere%40gmail.com/pub…> *AQUÍ HAY UNA COPIA DEL ACUERDO PARA ESPACIOS MÁS SEGUROS DE BIKE!BIKE!* <https://es.bikebike.org/policy/>Interpretación Los talleres tendrán interpretación simultánea en español e inglés. Por favor presta atención a las señales de lxs intérpretes para apoyar a la comunicación. Te Necesitamos como Voluntario *SE BUSCAN PANELISTAS:* Comenzando un taller de bicis comunitario: “Hola acabo de integrarme al ThinkTank y me gustaría saber cómo empezar un taller de bicis comunitario” es una de las preguntas más comunes que recibimos. Sé panelista, comparte el conocimiento que has ganado con esfuerzo a las 9:00 (tiempo del pacifico) Sábado. *SE BUSCAN FACILITADORXS:* Si no tenemos alguien para facilitar estos grupos van a ocurrir de cualquier forma. Sin embargo, escoger una persona para hacerlo tomará solo unos minutos. Lo mejor es ofrecerse como voluntarix con anticipación ¡así por lo menos ya lo esperas! - grupo para personas negras, racializadas y de pueblos originarios - cotorreo de europexs, australianxs, asixns, y noctámbulxs - meet & greet (viernes) - meet & greet (sábado) - charla (sábado) - charla (domingo) - wtf (grupo de mujeres/trans/femme) - de guardia (Si recibimos muchas más personas de las que anticipamos, estaría bien tenerte disponible para unirte y ayudar.) *SE BUSCAN MEDIADORXS DE GUARDIA:* Necesitamos más personas con capacitación en mediación disponibles, por si acaso. *VOLUNTARIXS TÉCNICXS:* Necesitamos a alguien para que haga el equivalente digital a “revolverse con el micrófono” y “poner la presentación en el proyector” para cada. uno. de. los. talleres. Es fácil, Te entrenaremos. Por favor ayuda. Habrá un ensayo para Panelistxs, Facilitadorxs, Interpretes, y Voluntarixs Técnicxs. Será el 6 de noviembre de 10am a 3pm (tiempo del pacífico) / 1pm a 6pm (tiempo del este)

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Bike Works is hiring in Seattle
by Jess Green 28 Oct '21

28 Oct '21

Hey bike friends, Bike Works is hiring a Program Director and Program Coordinator for our youth programs in South Seattle. Compensation, job descriptions, and application instructions are up on our website - check them out here: https://bikeworks.org/about/job-opportunities/ <http://www.bikeworks.org/> Jess Green *Development Director* she/her pronouns what's this? <https://uwm.edu/lgbtrc/support/gender-pronouns/> 206.687.7229 <https://www.facebook.com/BikeWorksSeattle> <https://twitter.com/bikeworks206> <https://www.instagram.com/bikeworks206/> bikeworks.org *Bike Works promotes the bicycleas a vehicle for change to empoweryouth and build resilient communities.* *Bike Shop: *3709 S Ferdinand St, Seattle, WA 98118 <https://www.google.com/maps/place/3709+S+Ferdinand+St,+Seattle,+WA+98118/@4…> *Office, Warehouse & Classrooms: *3715 S Hudson St #111, Seattle, WA 98118 <https://www.google.com/maps/place/3715+S+Hudson+St,+Seattle,+WA+98118/data=…>

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Starting a School Bike Bus/Train
by Stuart Nottingham 22 Oct '21

22 Oct '21

Good day, everyone. I'm trying to get a jump on starting a Bike Bus/Train to celebrate next year's Bike Month here in Salisbury NC. I was wondering if any of your organizations had already undertaken such a project and had information or suggestions they'd be willing to share. I find tat it's always better to follow guidance from those who have gone before and build on it. Thanks! Stuart Nottingham

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Community Cycling Center is hiring a Community Programs Manager
by momoko saunders 23 Sep '21

23 Sep '21

Hi all,The Community Cycling Center is hiring for a Community Programs Manager. https://communitycyclingcenter.org/about/jobs/community-programs-manager/ I would be happy to answer any questions about the org and the position. Cheers, -Momoko

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 180, Issue 2
by Adam-Phoenix Mitchell 12 Sep '21

12 Sep '21

Thanks for the replies. That is helpful. However, I guess I'm still not clear whether e-bike conversions we do at the shop (rather than club rides with rider owned e-bikes) would be covered by general liability insurance. Does anyone have any further insights? Cheers, Phoenix On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 4:10 PM < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. E-bike conversion insurance? (Adam-Phoenix Mitchell) > 2. Re: E-bike conversion insurance? (Jesse Cooper) > 3. Re: E-bike conversion insurance? (maggie(a)river2sealoop.org) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Adam-Phoenix Mitchell <mitch.ad(a)gmail.com> > To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:14:41 -0400 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] E-bike conversion insurance? > Hello all, > > We are trying to determine if we need insurance (beyond general liability) > to cover e-bike conversions on used bikes. Not totally sure if general > liability insurance would cover this and I assume it may depend on the > carrier. > > I'm also not totally clear why there would be any difference between this > and a normal refurbished bike we sell, in terms of liability. > > Any insights would be appreciated! > > Cheers, > Phoenix > Freeride Montpelier Community Bike Shop > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jesse Cooper <jessecooper0(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:41:22 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] E-bike conversion insurance? > I think the take away I got from bike shop forums was an issue of battery > fires at the worst end of the spectrum, and endangerment from improper > installations at the the other end. I don't about the Us, but in so called > canada there's also liability issues if systems are tuned to exceed.30km > under motor power, either throttle or assist. It's worth checking your > municipal as well as state and federal ebike codes. 🤷‍♀️ > > On Fri., Sep. 10, 2021, 07:15 Adam-Phoenix Mitchell <mitch.ad(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> We are trying to determine if we need insurance (beyond general >> liability) to cover e-bike conversions on used bikes. Not totally sure if >> general liability insurance would cover this and I assume it may depend on >> the carrier. >> >> I'm also not totally clear why there would be any difference between this >> and a normal refurbished bike we sell, in terms of liability. >> >> Any insights would be appreciated! >> >> Cheers, >> Phoenix >> Freeride Montpelier Community Bike Shop >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: <maggie(a)river2sealoop.org> > To: "'The Think Tank'" <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 14:24:00 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] E-bike conversion insurance? > > Here is the notice from our insurance company that we get through League > of American bicyclists. I read this to mean any bike that meets the Class > 1 or Class 3 (pedal assist) legal criteria is covered by them and that has > been their policy consistently. Class 2’s (throttle) are not covered and > never have been. > > > > *From:* Rene Waterson rwaterson(a)americanspecialty.com > *Sent:* Friday, August 27, 2021 9:02 AM > *Subject:* Electric Bikes - Clarification on Coverage > > > > Club Leaders: > > There has been some confusion relative to how the League’s liability > insurance program applies to the use of electric bicycles during club > activities. The purpose of this correspondence is to clarify the intent of > the liability policy. It is important to note that coverage for electric > bicycles for club activities has not changed from prior years and is > consistent with what we believe to be industry standards. > > > > For the purposes of this communication, the definition of electric bicycle > is consistent with the CPSC definition > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpsc.…> > and the League’s position > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbikeleagu…> > on electric bicycles: > > > > - Class 1 electric bicycle shall mean an electric bicycle equipped > with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and > that ceases to provide assistance when the bicycle reaches the speed of 20 > miles per hour. > - Class 2 electric bicycle shall mean an electric bicycle equipped > with a motor that may be used exclusively to propel the bicycle and that is > not capable of providing assistance when the bicycle reaches the speed of > 20 miles per hour. > - Class 3 electric bicycle shall mean an electric bicycle equipped > with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and > that ceases to provide assistance when the bicycle reaches the speed of 28 > miles per hour. > > > > Based on the language from the insurance policy, losses arising from the > use of a Class 2 electric bicycle would not be covered under the League’s > club insurance program. Again, this is consistent with prior year’s > coverage and our understanding of industry standards. Given that it could > be difficult for a Club to determine which class of an electric bicycle is > being used during club activities, clubs may consider notifying club > members and club activity participants that Class 2 electric bicycles are > not permitted. This is a business decision for the Club. We have created a > sample acknowledgement for users of electric bicycles for the club’s > consideration. Please note utilizing this acknowledgement is NOT an > insurance requirement and should be reviewed with the club’s local legal > counsel prior to implementing. The acknowledgement should remain > independent of the standard release of liability waiver (in other words, we > do not recommend combining the two or replacing one with the other). > > > > We realize that some clubs may have been notified during the 2021 policy > period that Class 3 electric bicycles are not covered and we apologize for > the confusion. Please note that this is a summary of coverage and the > policy will govern any discrepancies between this summary and the actual > policy. If you have any questions or would like to discuss further, please > do not hesitate to reach out to Rene Waterson at > rwaterson(a)americanspeicalty.com. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Rene > > > > *Rene Waterson, AIS, AINS *| Account Manager, Special Programs > > American Specialty Insurance & Risk Services, Inc. > > 7609 W Jefferson Blvd, Suite 100, Fort Wayne, IN 46804 > > Direct: 260-969-5392 | Toll Free: 800-245-2744 > > > > americanspecialty.com > > americanspecialtyexpress.com > > > > [image: Image result for linkedin link photo] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/american-specialty-insurance-&-risk-servic…> > > > > IMPORTANT: Please note that American Specialty cannot bind, alter, or > cancel any coverage without speaking to, and receiving confirmation from, a > licensed agent. Further note that American Specialty Insurance & Risk > Services, Inc. also conducts business as A.S.I.R.S.I. Insurance Agency in > the state of California, American Specialty Insurance & Risk Services > Agency in the state of Michigan, and A S Insurance & Risk Services Agency > in the state of New York. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained > in this communication, including attachments, is privileged and > confidential. It is intended only for the exclusive use of the addressee. > If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the > employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of > this communication is strictly prohibited. NOTE: Although we have taken > steps to ensure that this e-mail and its attachments (if any) are free from > any virus, the recipient should, in keeping with good computing practice, > also check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. If > you have received this communication in error, please notify us by > telephone immediately at 260-969-5203 or e-mail at > contact(a)americanspecialty.com. Thank you. > > > > > > *From:* Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> *On > Behalf Of *Jesse Cooper > *Sent:* Friday, September 10, 2021 11:41 AM > *To:* The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] E-bike conversion insurance? > > > > I think the take away I got from bike shop forums was an issue of battery > fires at the worst end of the spectrum, and endangerment from improper > installations at the the other end. I don't about the Us, but in so called > canada there's also liability issues if systems are tuned to exceed.30km > under motor power, either throttle or assist. It's worth checking your > municipal as well as state and federal ebike codes. 🤷‍♀️ > > > > On Fri., Sep. 10, 2021, 07:15 Adam-Phoenix Mitchell <mitch.ad(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > We are trying to determine if we need insurance (beyond general liability) > to cover e-bike conversions on used bikes. Not totally sure if general > liability insurance would cover this and I assume it may depend on the > carrier. > > > > I'm also not totally clear why there would be any difference between this > and a normal refurbished bike we sell, in terms of liability. > > > > Any insights would be appreciated! > > > > Cheers, > > Phoenix > > Freeride Montpelier Community Bike Shop > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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