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Bike Collectives in Colombia?
by plan b NOLA Bike Project 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

Hey yáll, It's Victor from Plan B in New Orleans. I'm in Panama City right now, which may actually be the least bike friendly city I´ve ever been to. In fact it may be bike impossible because even walking is terrifying here! Anyway, I'll be travelling through Colombia next week. Anyone know of any collectives/clubs/cool shops I should visit? Also, in my deepest fantasies I would love to borrow/rent/ buy a bike to use for Ciclovia in Bogota and for touring. If anyone knows anything it would be great. All the best, } Victor

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Turning prison work into money?
by veganboyjosh＠gmail.com 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

But perhaps not like it first sounds. Does anyone out there work with populations of prisoners or recently released inmates? Have you had any success finding funding for this work? Community Cycles has a program in which we work with our County jail's work release program. When inmates here have less than 25% of their sentence left, and qualify for the program (this is determined by the jail based on factors such as non-violent, non sexual offenses, behavior during their stay, etc.) they are given 2 weeks in which to find a job on the outside. During this 2 week period, they are very strictly monitored, and must check in when they arrive at a location, must let the jail know when they are leaving, etc. Once they've found and landed a job, they are let out in the morning, and return to the jail at night, paying rent for the remainder of their sentence. The job allows them to start saving money for free life once they're out, and gets them back into a schedule and everything that comes with the regularity of work. They are not given bus tickets or money for travel, and must either walk back and forth, or rely on family members and friends for transportation during this time. The jail is located out of the way, several miles from the center of town and any decent work options. Community Cycles has partnered with the jail and we are now a place where inmates in the program can come and get a bike through our regular Earn-a-Bike program. They typically do this during the first two or three days of their 2 weeks, and then they have wheels which allows them to go farther faster, and opens up many opportunities for work which walking would't. We've heard from the jail that the recidivism rates of those inmates going through our EAB program are the lowest of any group and that the jail has had to install more bike parking as a result. I've contacted the supervisor of the program on the jail's side, trying to suss out any possibility of getting some kind of financial support either through the country, or through other outside groups, but they were of no help. When I broached the subject, the immediate response was "Well, we don't have any money, so you're not going to get any from us!" and it didn't get better as I probed more. Do any of you have any experience with groups that fund work with inmates? Any suggestions for ways to get or "work release" program to start paying for itself? Right now, the only thing that makes it a "program" is that the Earn-a-Bike participants are a specific demographic--inmates--who all come from the same place. If they didn't tell us they were in the Work Release program or staying at the County jail, we would have no idea. Thanks! josh.

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Ateliers velos (community bike shops in Europe)
by Christine Bourgeois 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

Bonsoir! I am getting ready for a trip to France and I discovered that the number of "ateliers velos" is growing all over Europe. In 2007, Rome organized the 1st European Forum of Bike Workshops. http://un-e.org/toulousebikeforum/images/stories/velocity.pdf http://un-e.org/toulousebikeforum/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsec… This year, Marseille is going to have a Heureux Cycleur week-end at the beginning of October (same idea as Bike! Bike!) All the best, -- Christine Bourgeois www.bicicentro.org

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dispensing housing
by Jonathan Morrison 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

Has anyone figured out a good way to dispense new housing in bulk? A new set of cables / housing on a bike makes a huge difference -- but I don't think people realize how much this costs and take it for granted. We can of course try to throw volunteers / staff that we don't have at the situation, but I am hoping that there is a way were we could show the cost of housing as they pull it out. Just like gas at the gas pump. I was looking at this rope application as a possible solution..... http://www.botachtactical.com/pmiropmeas.html Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/ The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.

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unsubscribe please
by Steve Stollman 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 36, Issue 7
by Jason Tanzman 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

I work with the Sibley Bike Depot in St. Paul; we currently have accounts with Quality Bike Products as well as J&B. We are a not-for-profit with a fairly well established retail operation that largely funds our other programs; thus far this year, we've sold about $50,000 worth of used bikes and parts (both used and new). We are stocking more different new items for retail sales and also doing more special ordering of higher end new parts for customers. We generally order about $2500 per month in parts and supplies. Our mission remains to recycle as much as possible. However, it has become clear to us that things like cables, brake pads (we replace brake pads on about 60% of bikes that come through our shop), handlebar tape, tires, lights, locks, helmets, and more are really helpful for people to have a comfortable, reliable, safe ride. In terms of setting up distributor accounts - really all QBP and J&B require is a storefront with a sign. In my experience, we've never had trouble getting them to accept orders, even when Sibley was ordering way lower quantities. Contact them - it may be less lucrative on their end, but they have plenty of customers and it isn't a whole lot of extra work on their end to distribute to you. And they sometimes even feel happy to be supporting a socially conscious organization. If you don't have a storefront or can't get a distributor account, connecting with a Local Bike Shop may be an effective way to get your coop/collective discounts. I've heard multiple instances (including our neighbor the Grease Pit in Minneapolis) where a local shop (in the Grease Pit's case, a worker-owned coop retail shop) offers them parts at wholesale (or close to) price. Most LBS do not view your collective as competition, and are happy to offer discounted parts (i've head like 25% above wholesale cost being used before). Jason Tanzman Volunteer Coordinator (paid staff) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:00 AM, <thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org>wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Distributors and interacting with the profit model > (Carolyn Braunius) > 2. Re: Distributors and interacting with the profit model (R > Points) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:45:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: Carolyn Braunius <brauniusc(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Distributors and interacting with the > profit model > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Message-ID: <155359.53587.qm(a)web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > We have two small collective shops at Troy Bike Rescue, in Troy and Albany. > We are also very lucky to have a major distributor's warehouse nearby who > are very accommodating with our order needs. > > In our shops we heavily emphasize using recycled parts first. We only were > really keeping new cables, bearings, and housing in stock. > > We had a special situation in Troy, which made us rethink some of our shop > policies on not buying new parts for our customers' consumption. The local > police began issuing tickets for not having bike bells or lights, to the > tune of like 50 bucks in some cases. > > We test ordered some bells, lights, and patch kits to see if people would > be willing to give us a more specific "suggested donation" for the parts, > since the parts were paid for by us, instead of relying on donations. In our > case, there was no local bike shop or even a major big box retailer that was > easily accessible for people who use bikes as a primary means of > transportation to get a bell or a light. > > So far, the change has been very successful. We wanted to make sure, if we > were providing people with bikes, we were also providing them with the > opportunity to get a bell and a light. People have heard about the > ticketing, have been coming to us for bells and are very willing to meet our > minimum suggested donation. > > With our minimum suggested donation, we try to cover the cost of our > purchase, and not undercut the local bike shops to much. So far, this has > been cool. > > We also let our core staff order stuff when we order from the distributor. > No one is paid at our shops, so it is a small reward for a group of very > dedicated people. Of course, this is about 10-12 people for two shops, so it > isn't to much of an onerous task. Each person is responsible for looking at > the catalog, writing down all the relevant information, and then making sure > the items are in stock at the local supplier before we order. > > Carolyn > www.troybikerescue.org > > > "When shall we live if not now?" - M.F.K. Fisher > > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, rachael spiewak <rachael(a)sopobikes.org> wrote: > > From: rachael spiewak <rachael(a)sopobikes.org> > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Distributors and interacting with the profit > model > To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 6:53 AM > > We have an account with Hawley.? Our minimum order is $50, and we only buy > things necessary for operating a repair shop (no retail items, nothing for > people to take away unless it's installed on the bike as part of a repair; > generally tools and consumables costing less than $5 apiece only).? They > required from us up front that we have liability insurance and a store > front, and maybe a few other things that I can't recall. > > > We talked about buying benefits for volunteers, and we decided it create > too much confusing administrative work, and volunteers have plenty of access > to nice donations and other benefits anyway.? And we like to send folks to > the for profit shops for parts when we don't have them because that helps us > maintain good relationships with the shops.?? Plus, our mission is about > affordable repair by way tool sharing, not by way of bulk parts purchasing. > > > This fiscal year to date, we've spent a little more than $5000 on shop > supplies, mostly on Hawley orders, and the rest split between hardware > stores and emergency trips to for profit bike shops.? We surpassed our > supplies fundraising goals with some grant money, so we splurged a little on > some tap and die sets, which have pretty much paid for themselves in > salvaged bottom bracket shells and fork threads. > > > Hope this helps! > Rachael > Sopo Bikes//ATL > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Rigel Christian <rigelc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I had an interesting discussion with someone who worked at a smaller > > distributor today. I had called in order to try and cultivate a > > business relationship for our local co-op, which is in desperate need > > of tools and consumable parts like bearings and cables. He mentioned > > that a lot more co-ops were inquiring about accounts. > > > > He also told me the reasons why co-op/DIY shops were problematic from > > his end, and it's a reasonable criticism from that perspective. > > Individually, we simply dont do the volume of business necessary to be > > attractive to a business interest. The time necessary to administer > > and verify an account that does maybe a couple hundred dollars worth > > of business a month for the higher traffic shops kind of burns your > > profit margins, which are not large at that level. distributors count > > on reliable, volume business to stay afloat, and take a smaller cut of > > profit on the assumption that that's the type of business theyll be > > doing. > > > > I've know that some of the longer running co-ops and collectives have > > relationships with distributors, but clearly many of the newer ones do > > not. > > > > I'm curious about a couple of things. > > > > 1) Does your collective have a relationship with a parts distributor? > > 2) Regardless of the answer to #1, roughly how much does your shop > > spend on tools/consumables/things-that-one-would-get-from-a-distributor? > > > > It seems to me that in the first few years of a > > co-op/nonprofit/collective situation, lots or most of these > > organizations leverage either existing ties to, or the goodwill of > > LBSes. > > > > My suspicion is that in some edge cases, where the bike or DIY culture > > isnt all that strong, this can be a fairly significant issue for a > > fledgling operation, in terms of both finances and social capital. > > > > The idea that i'm trying to push here is that of a sort of buyers > > club. Disregarding for the moment the perfectly valid criticisms of > > the legal structure of 501(c)3s, if there was a nonprofit that could > > act as a go-between for a parts distributor and a number of regional > > shops, that would serve the needs of both the for-profit distributors > > AND the co-op shops. distributors wouldnt have to deal with as much > > volatility from taking on co-ops as charity cases, and co-ops banding > > together could drive the price of a lot of the most necessary > > consumables and parts down even further than their current distributor > > relationships can offer. in the ideal case, of course. > > > > I would appreciate any input people have. I dont know if this has been > > suggested before (I suspect it has), but i didnt see anything in my > > archive of the last year or so. If I'm totally off base in my > > assumptions I'd like to know that too, where i went wrong, and what > > the real deal is. > > > > cheers. > > _______________________________________________ > > Thethinktank mailing list > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > > > > -- > Sopo Bicycle Cooperative > 404-425-9989 > www.sopobikes.org > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Hours of operation: > Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm > > Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… >

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Press Release for 816 Bicycle Collective Benefit Show 8/16/09
by the816bikecollective Kansascity 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

July 29, 2009 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE *Bi-Annual Fundraiser to support Kansas City’s Recycle-A-Bicycle Project * *Kansas City, Missouri -Californos in Westport, located at 4124 Pennsylvania, hosts the Bi-Annual 816 Bicycle Collective Fundraiser, Sunday, August 16**th**. Doors open at 6PM and the event will end at midnight. The night will include musical performances by Lord of the Yum Yum, The Afterparty, Atilla, Andrew Connor, a raffle, silent art auction and more! All proceeds will go to benefit The 816 Bicycle Collective, Kansas City’s only non-profit recycle-a-bicycle project. * Our benefit in December of 2008, successfully raised $1,650.50, which went to sustaining our programs through the winter months, and helped us to prepare for the now busier summer season. Our goal is to rescue and repair bicycles, increase bicycle ridership in the Kansas City area, and to offer educational services. Since we attended the Southeast Regional Bikebike! in Atlanta during January of 2009, (which was a convention of community run bicycle shops,) we have… -Doubled our physical shop space -Organized a back-lot cleanup and are now utilizing the space for youth activities -Purchased new specialty tools, with the addition of 10 new mini tool kits -Gone from 5 voting collective members to 8 -Redistributed 71 bicycles (and counting) to a diverse range of people in the community -Seen over 500 visitors (and counting) within the shop We emphasize to our patrons the importance of giving back. Giving back can mean a variety of things, from money to printing services, volunteering to clean up, sort parts, or help another person with their bicycle. We rely completely on donations and community support, and all collective members are volunteers. These benefits help ensure that we will be able to continue to provide these services and the resources needed to those who rely on our facility, no matter what their financial situation is. Please help us in spreading the word about our organization or help us by making a donation. We are currently in need/accepting the following donations (all are tax deductible) *-Money for rent and utilities* *-Items to raffle – gift certificates, coupons, art, or other merchandise* -Bicycle wheels and complete bicycles, (especially kids bikes) -Metric box wrenches and allen keys, or any specialty bike tools -Bike cables, housing, chain lube, grease and degreaser -Helmets and bike locks (cables, chains, u-locks) -Front and rear flashing lights -Bicycle repair stands -Printing services The 816 Bicycle Collective is a non-profit organization under The Greater Kansas City Bicycle Federation. We are located at 3109 Troost Avenue, in the back of the Creative Minds Art Center. For more information, media inquiries, or to find out what you can do to help – Visit *www.816bike.org* or contact us at *The816bike(a)gmail.com* or Suzanne Hogan 505-231-589 ###

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Bike Machine/Appropriate Technology Collective in Mexico Needs Help!
by james blesdoe 02 Aug '09

02 Aug '09

this came in the mail at the bicycle kitchen i sent them $10 on their paypal account !!URGENT LETTER ASKING HELP FROM C.A.C.I.T.A. (Kah see tah)!!! Please send to ALL your contacts! C.A.C.I.T.A. IS ASKING FOR DONATIONS OR SMALL LOANS TO HELP PURCHASE THEIR NEIGHBORING PROPERTY!!! Friends, family, and recipients of this letter; We write to you to ask for help for something very important to us. The possibility to grow, develop and strengthen our work, in many ways depends on this opportunity. We ask that you take the time to read our request below to understand better our proposal. Our project C.A.C.I.T.A., Centro Autónomo para la Creación Intercultural de Tecnologías Apropiadas- (the Autonomous Centre for the Intercultural Creation of Appropriate Technologies), is located in San Pablo de Etla, in the suburbs of Oaxaca City, in southern Mexico. We recently were offered the opportunity to obtain the neighboring property and expand physically the size of our place of work. C.A.C.I.T.A is a learning center in constant development, experimentation, instruction and production of appropriate technologies, such as bicycle machines, solar ovens, dry compost bathrooms, natural materials building, humanure and worm compost production, rain water catchments, natural filtration, and human-power pumping systems, sustainable community agriculture, recycled alternative fuels, bicycle powered electrical generators; to name a few. Please see our video- http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2091717/video_cacita/ The neighboring property measures 8 meters by 20 meters, or 160 square meters, almost the same dimensions as the property that we currently own and are occupying now. The owner of the neighboring property came recently to offer us first rights in buying the property, reducing his original offer of 100 thousand pesos, to 80 thousand pesos, approximately 6000 dollars. The owner offered us that we could give him 50 thousand pesos as a down payment, and pay him the remaining 30 thousand over a specified amount of time. Our goal is 90,000 pesos, 80,000 for the owner of the property, and 10 thousand to put the title of property paperwork in our name. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 60,000 pesos in donations and small loans paid towards our goal! We are still working to raise the remaining 30,000 pesos that need to be paid off very soon! It's very unusual for us to be asking for help in this type of way, but in other respects the owner of the neighboring property will have to look for another buyer for his land, which would mean our losing the opportunity to grow as a work space. We are asking for donations or small loans that could be repaid in the following year. If it is in your abilities to grant us this favor, please contact us to make the support happen. C.A.C.I.T.A is an self-sustaining project. Meaning, we don’t receive any kind of support from governmental, or international cooperation programs. We want to continue being autonomous as a project and as individuals, becoming an example for other households in southern Mexico to incorporate low cost and low-tec sustainable appropriate technologies into their daily lives and also benefit from the autonomy that they offer. And so for some time now we’ve been creating a learning center and dormitory for visiting collaborators that come from varied places and realities to share their knowledge and learn in an intercultural learning environment about appropriate technologies. We know times are difficult, economically speaking; but they are also times of change and solutions, and of other ways of relating with one another and the natural world around us. We feel that we share these feelings and dreams with you, and that is why we are asking you to help us grow as a workspace, a place for learning, and as an organization. Thank you for taking the time to read our words. Attentively, C.A.C.I.T.A. cacita(a)riseup.net. to donate by paypal, please use the following link! https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5169270 En español............ CARTA URGENTE SOLICITANDO APOYO PARA C.A.C.I.T.A. Familia, amigos, amistades. Les escribimos para pedirles una ayuda muy importante para nosotros. La posibilidad de crecer, desarrollar, y fortalecer nuestros trabajos, en muchos sentidos depende de esta oportunidad. Pedimos que lean nuestra solicitud para entender mejor nuestra propuesta. Nuestro espacio de trabajo, el Centro Autónomo para la Creación Intercultural de Tecnologías Apropiadas- C.A.C.I.T.A., esta ubicado en San Pablo de Etla, a las afueras de la Ciudad de Oaxaca. Somos un espacio de trabajo, en constante desarrollo, experimentación, enseñanza y producción de tecnologías apropiadas, como son las bicimakinas, hornos-solares, sanitarios secos ecológicos, la bio-construcción con materiales naturales, la producción de composta humana y lombricultura, sistemas de capitación, filtración natural, y bombeo de agua de lluvia, la agricultura sustentable comunitaria, combustibles reciclados alternativos, y la generación eléctrica por viento y por bicicleta; por mencionar algunas. Favor de ver nuestro video~ http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2091717/video_cacita/ El terreno mide aproximadamente 8 metros por 20m, o 160 metros cuadrados, casi las mismas dimensiones del terreno que actualmente ocupamos. El dueño del terreno vino recién a ofrecernos primer derecho de comprar el terreno, reduciendo su oferta de 100 mil pesos, a 80 mil pesos. Y que pudiéramos darle 50 mil pesos de entrada, y pagar los 30 mil restantes en un tiempo determinado. 10 mil pesos para la tramitología de titulo de propiedad. Nuestro objetivo es recaudar 90,000 pesos, 80,000 para el dueño del terreno, y 10 mil pesos para la tramitologías del titulo de propiedad. ACTUALMENTE TENEMOS 60,000 PESOS RECAUDADOS en donativos y pequeños prestamos ya pagado al dueño del terreno! Estamos todavía trabajando para recaudar los 30,000 pesos restantes que se tiene que pagar en los próximos semanas! Es muy inusual de nosotros pedir este tipo de apoyo, pero de otro modo el dueño del terreno buscaría otra persona para comprar la propiedad, que causaría nuestro desalojo, y estancamiento físico en cuanto a la posibilidad de crecer como espacio de trabajo. Pedimos donaciones o pequeños prestamos que podemos pagar en el transcurso de un año. Si esta en tus posibilidades este favor que pedimos, por favor contáctanos para realizar el apoyo. C.A.C.I.T.A., para quien no lo conocen de cerca, es un proyecto autogestivo, que quiere decir que no dependemos de ningún proyecto gubernamental, ni de un programa de cooperación internacional. Queremos seguir siendo autónomos como proyecto y como individuos, siendo un ejemplo para familias en el sur de México para incorporar tecnologías apropiadas en sus vidas cotidianas y tambien beneficiar de la autonomía que brindan. Y es por eso que desde hace mucho tiempo atrás venimos creando un centro de aprendizaje donde la gente interesados en compartir y aprender sobre las tecnologías apropiadas. Pensamos que la compra de este terreno nos posibilitaría esa oportunidad de crecer en espacio, y realizar nuestro sueño de crear un albergue para visitantes internados que vienen de variados lugares y contextos, para compartir sus conocimientos en un ambiente de aprendizaje intercultural. Sabemos que son tiempos difíciles, económicamente, pero también son tiempos de cambio, de soluciones, de otras maneras de relacionarnos con la sociedad y la naturaleza. Pensamos que compartimos estas ideas y sueños con ustedes, y por tal, nos dirigimos a ustedes para pedirles que nos apoyen y que nos acompañen en este camino de transformación de conciencia y acción que queremos crear en el mundo. Gracias por tu tiempo que tomaste por leer nuestras palabras. Atentamente C.A.C.I.T.A cacita(a)riseup.net. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5169270 -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Kitchen-board mailing list Kitchen-board(a)bicyclekitchen.com http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/kitchen-board

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816 Bicycle Collective Benefit Bash!!!!
by the816bikecollective Kansascity 30 Jul '09

30 Jul '09

Hello Friends, The 816 Bicycle Collective is having a benefit show to raise some much needed funds. We really hope that you can make it. Our show is at Californo's in Westport on Sunday, August 16th. There will be bands, food, raffle prizes and much more. We're taking donation's at the door. We'll see you there!!! Thanks, the 816 Bicycle Collective 3109 Troost Ave KCMO 64109 www.816bike.org

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Re: [TheThinkTank] "job" openings at your co-op
by john.carlson＠comcast.net 30 Jul '09

30 Jul '09

At Sibley Bike Depot, we have four paid staff people right now, all of which could use more hours; Volunteer Coordinator, Youth Coordinator, and two mechanics. The mechanics staff our open shops, teach staff and volunteers and help teach classes, repair bikes and do final checks on bikes volunteers repair. We also pay a professional bookkeeper monthly to do our payroll and keep us on track with the reporting, filing of key things. We also have an active board that participates in all areas of operations. We decided that to be more sustainable we had to shift our organization from a top-top hierarchy to a collective model. Our mode of operation shift went something like this: We had a hands-off board of directors that hired an Executive Director and Shop Manager /mechanic The Grants that paid for the start-up of our organization ran out and they were unable to fund these positions. The ED left and they decided to start selling bikes to pay for the Shop Manager/mechanic. The shop manager position continued for a number of years and he was able to use the volunteers and the bikes to pay our rent, utilities and his own pay. But the model was essentially the same; a board of directors who hired someone to do the work for them. Unfortunately that set up the situation where we had the shop manager acting as ED and Mechanic and Program Leader doing and directing everything from bike rentals, sales, donations, deposits, ordering, problem solving, etc. Everything had to go through the shop manager to keep everything going. Eventually he burned out. In our scenario, the board was seen as the boss who could come in and change things, give orders, had power over money and jobs, but was not responsible for day to day operations. And not connected with the people making it all happen. We looked at the Grease Pit as a different model of how things could operate by sharing the work between engaged, participating members of a collective. We decided that we would hire staff people in focused, key areas, to act as partners with us, part of the collective. And the rest is us trying to figure out how to make a collective work. Part of our new organizational structure is to have decentralized volunteer teams with power and authority to carry out tasks. For instance, the web/technology team totally setup a three computer network in our shop, redeveloped our website using drupal for easy content updating and setup a volunteer tracking system also in drupal. The way it's suppose to work is our collective members and staff participate in these teams alongside volunteers. We also have a finance team, fundraising team, outreach/promotion team, education team, etc. It's not all working great, but in my view so far, it's more just and sustainable than the old model. To make our collective more open and accessible, we have been trying to expand our collective to core volunteers who can participate, take on leadership roles and responsibilities and have a say in how to do things. What doesn't work though is when collective members join, but don't take responsibility and don't do the work, and work against other volunteers. And we are still a 501c3 non-profit corporation with banking, payroll, filing and reporting responsibilities. Our new model is confusing to even us at times when collective members assume someone else is taking care of responsibilities and we do only the things that we want to do. I've also seen the collective model turn against itself - infighting, clique behavior, and power struggles. And the other volunteers definately see this. And our model is also confusing to outsiders who always ask, "who's in charge?" Funding and Sustainability: The bigger the org, the more funding it needs. And the funding comes from somewhere. If not grants, then bike sales or donations. But still it has to be funded. A small volunteer collective with donated or free space is still funded by the donor of the space. The sources of funding may be an issue, but we have decided that we need to diversify our funding so it's not all recycled-bike sales. But our goal is not to get big, but to do a better job of what we do, increase our capacity to do more, and to keep it sustainable. It's definately a learning process. And I look forward to reading that book, The Revolution Will Not Be Funded. John Sibley Bike Depot St. Paul, MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "rachael spiewak" <rachael(a)sopobikes.org> To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:31:36 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] "job" openings at your co-op Here are some quick answers from Sopo. We pay one person right now to be our executive director (that's me), but the role is more like a facilitator or manager. My job includes specific tasks that I do and coordinating volunteers to do what they do. On the administrative end, I: *do most of our correspondence and communication oriented things *manage our budget and banking *do our grantseeking and most of the event planning *keep up with donor relations *keep up with all y'all for new ideas *recruit and coordinate the big volunteer picture *keep up with volunteers to make sure they're getting what they need *order shop supplies *and other sort of mundane nonprofit management stuff. Then, in the shop, I'm always there, I match volunteers with individuals who need help, match volunteers with other things to do in the shop, work with volunteers to address conflict resolution oriented things. Volunteers facilitate our volunteer orientation, keep the shop running, do our outreach, and help out with lots of the stuff I do. Our board is made up of active volunteers who are specifically helping with finances, HR, and fundraising. I make $30k a year, which so far has been surprisingly easy to fundraise without compromising our policy about avoiding corporate money and financial support from entities whose values don't match ours. In many ways, my job pays for itself. In the nonprofit world, it appears that organizations get taken more seriously if they have an ED. It's a tricky line to walk, but I think we're making it work for us (suggested reading: The Revolution Will Not Be Funded). We started this during the third quarter of 2007 on a trial basis. The agreement was that if the money could be found for the next quarter and everything was going fine, we could roll it out for another 3 months. Six months deep we had enough money to keep it going through the end of the year, and by the end of the year we had funding for a bunch more years. As for decision making: the community has that power. I'm entrusted to do what I do with the understanding that I have a particular skill set, experience with this stuff, education, yadda yadda.. as in, I'm qualified to do my job. But if things at the shop need to change, we deal with it at our general meetings. If I was doing a lousy job, the community could fire me via the Board. It's funny how power relations are so entrenched, because I overhear people in the shop explaining that I'm in charge, and I have to get in there and explain that "I just work here." Sometimes I have to be the enforcer and ask someone to take a hike when it comes down to it (which everyone gets a kick out of since even our kiddos are bigger than me...and I say things like "kiddos"). I think that my job is to support the work of the volunteers, so that's my approach. I feel empowered to do my job, I feel empowered by my job, I feel rewarded by what I get to do for a living, and I feel that my role in the shop is special in its own way, but we're not feeling any hierchical weirdness. Hope this helps, Rachael On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Boson Au < instructions(a)gmail.com > wrote: so the recent job opening at the bike kitchen in LA reminded me of something I'd very much like to discuss at bikebike, namely how, if you, compensate managers. Currently our collective members are de facto managers, and the recent influx of new volunteers/people in our shop is making some of us think about the possibility of creating a manager role. Right now we have no way to pay this person, but that might change in the future. so I guess if yall have a minute, can you tell me a little about how your organization deals with it? specifically, if you do offer compensation, does it affect their decisiion making powers? I noticed that the bike kitchen's job opening states that the person would not have executive decisionl, and I can see why since that person's power is already pretty great considering they'd be the manager of the shop. anyways, this is something I'm really interested in and want to pursue @ bikebike. -B _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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DesGua Bike tour through central america--interest poll thing
by Erik Stockmeier 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

Good afternoon, comrades- So a friend of mine from Guatemala is trying to organize a bike tour from guatemala to panama from november 1 to mid-december. The tour would be visiting local social movements along the way and have an explicitly political purpose, and he asked me to help out, to try and gage interest on it and such. He's currently talking to Just Coffee about some kind of sponsorship and the attachment elaborates on some of the questions he has for potentially interested parties, as well as more general information (but more elaborate than i can squeeze in on my lunch break over here). Some other questions I have (I have a meeting with him on sunday before he returns to guatemala): is there interest in this around? what about the timing? I'm concerned about it being so soon. would any other bike coops/collectives/etc be interested in somehow supporting it? It looks like an awesome experience at any rate. Anyhow, sorry for being so brief and sloppy, but like i said... lunch break. Erik @the recyclery

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Job Opening at Cycles of Change APC in the SF Bay Area
by Cycles of Change APC 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

Cycles of Change APC Bike Shop seeks a Bicycle Repair Coordinator to join our fantastic, fast-paced and friendly grassroots, not-for-profit community bike shop in Alameda. The shop provides people of all backgrounds and ages earn-a-bike and job training programs, do-it-together repair access, bicycle donation drop-off and much more! The shop offers a full-range of services which fund the shop including sales of used bicycle and parts, and comprehensive bicycle repair services. We seek a staff person who will professionally and productively repair bicycles. The Cycles of Change APC shop has been thriving and this position is critical to its ongoing success. The primary responsibilities of this position are: • Repairs: o Repair a very wide range of used bicycles professionally and efficiently. o Excellent familiarity with compatibility and quality of used bicycle components. • Sales o Sell refurbished bicycles to people of all incomes and backgrounds from all over the Bay Area. • Saturday shop o Staff our community shop on Saturdays in order to assist with bike sales and helping visitors. • Active team member o This job requires that you have the passion for expertly repairing bikes, and that you deeply believe in the mission of the project. Following qualities are some which are important for success at this position: • Able to communicate effectively and patiently with people of all ages, backgrounds, preferences and income levels individually and in groups whether selling a bike, meeting with other staff/volunteers or teaching a young person how to fix a flat. • Ability to stay organized and grounded while multi-tasking. • Able to travel to Alameda 3-4 times per week, including Saturdays from 10am-5pm. • Commitment to recycling, reusing and reducing consumption in carrying out the work. • Strong desire to promote bicycle use as a strategy to strengthen the health and sustainability of communities. HOW TO APPLY: In order to apply for this position, please send or email, your resume and a brief letter of introduction about your interest and experience to: Email: bikeshop(a)apcollaborative.org See our craigslist posting at: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/npo/1274851559.html www.myspace.com/cyclesapc Mailing address: Cycles of Change APC 677 W. Ranger Avenue Alameda, CA 94501 COMPENSATION: This position pays $15/hour for between 12-20 hours per week. There are no additional benefits to this position currently, and we’re working on offering health benefits soon! There may be opportunities for increased hours in the Fall. We are an equal opportunity employer. Women, People of Color, and people with experience working w/ African-American and/or formerly homeless people and Alameda residents are strongly encouraged to apply! -- Cycles of Change APC Bike Shop 650 W.Ranger Ave Alameda, Ca 94501 (510) 898-7830 www.apcollaborative.org/cycles.htm www.myspace.com/cyclesapc

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DesGua Bike tour through central america--interest poll
by Erik Stockmeier 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

Good afternoon, comrades- So a friend of mine from Guatemala is trying to organize a bike tour from guatemala to panama from november 1 to mid-december. The tour would be visiting local social movements along the way and have an explicitly political purpose, and he asked me to help out, to try and gage interest on it and such. He's currently talking to Just Coffee about some kind of sponsorship and the attachment elaborates on some of the questions he has for potentially interested parties, as well as more general information (but more elaborate than i can squeeze in on my lunch break over here). Some other questions I have (I have a meeting with him on sunday before he returns to guatemala): is there interest in this around? what about the timing? I'm concerned about it being so soon. would any other bike coops/collectives/etc be interested in somehow supporting it? It looks like an awesome experience at any rate. Anyhow, sorry for being so brief and sloppy, but like i said... lunch break. Erik @the recyclery

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"job" openings at your co-op
by Boson Au 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

so the recent job opening at the bike kitchen in LA reminded me of something I'd very much like to discuss at bikebike, namely how, if you, compensate managers. Currently our collective members are de facto managers, and the recent influx of new volunteers/people in our shop is making some of us think about the possibility of creating a manager role. Right now we have no way to pay this person, but that might change in the future. so I guess if yall have a minute, can you tell me a little about how your organization deals with it? specifically, if you do offer compensation, does it affect their decisiion making powers? I noticed that the bike kitchen's job opening states that the person would not have executive decisionl, and I can see why since that person's power is already pretty great considering they'd be the manager of the shop. anyways, this is something I'm really interested in and want to pursue @ bikebike. -B

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Job Opening at Bicycle Kitchen (los angeles)
by james blesdoe 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

Only complete applications will be considered and all applications should be sent to BicycleKitchenJob(a)gmail.com. Below is the text of the announcement, included in the attached file with a questionnaire (available attached or via internet download). Thank you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BICYCLE KITCHEN CALL FOR APPLICATIONS FOR OPERATIONS FACILITATOR The Bicycle Kitchen is hiring for the first time in its history. The Operations Facilitator (OpsFac) position is full-time for one year. It is not an executive director position. What is the Bicycle Kitchen? The Bicycle Kitchen is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. Our mission is to promote the bicycle as a fun, safe and accessible form of transportation, to foster healthy urban communities, and to provide a welcoming space to learn about building, maintaining and riding bicycles in Los Angeles. Our space offers tools, stands and parts while our volunteers provide guidance in bicycle building and repair. More than 45 of these volunteers—known as “Cooks”—work regular weekly shifts, logging more than 5,000 hours and serving as many as 10,000 clients annually. What is the job? The Bicycle Kitchen has been awarded a capacity building grant to hire one full-time staff person for one year. The OpsFac will support the organization's daily operations through a variety of administrative, financial and logistical duties, including inventory and processing donations. This position will interface directly with clients, volunteers and the community. The OpsFac will report to the board of directors and work closely with many members of the volunteer staff. The largest project over the course of the year will be creating an operations manual to streamline and standardize regular operations. The OpsFac should be personable and adaptable to different duties as they arise. This position has a fixed term of one year, with the possibility of continuation dependent on future funding. Compensation range is $34-38,000/year plus health benefits. What are the qualifications? Applicants must: • Be at least 18 years of age • have a working knowledge of Microsoft/Open Office, Mac OS X, and Windows • have an interest in bicycle mechanics • be personable and work well with others People with experience in customer service, legal services, grant-seeking, community outreach, bicycle repair, accounting, QuickBooks and nonprofit management are encouraged to apply. Computer programming and multilingual abilities are a bonus. We’d like it if you ride a bicycle. How do I apply? Apply to BicycleKitchenJob(a)gmail.com. Your application should contain the following attachments: - A cover letter explaining what makes you a good candidate for the job (limit 500 words) - A resume with relevant qualifications - List of References including name, relationship to applicant, job title, phone and email - A completed application questionnaire downloaded from this link (or find it attached): http://www.mediafire.com/?nhwfnqmymmm (then click “Click Here to Start Download” to download the file) Incomplete applications or stand-alone resumes will not be considered. You will receive a confirmation of receipt via email. Once you’ve received your confirmation of receipt, please wait for us to contact you regarding further steps. PLEASE ATTACH ALL DOCUMENTS as .pdf files, including your cover letter. Please type in the blanks on the questionnaire and save it with your name (Smith_John_Questionaire) in the filename. The top 5-10 candidates will be notified that they are being brought in for interviews by August 28. First round interviews will take place Fri-Sat September 4-5, and 2nd round (final) interviews will take place September 6. Final decision will be announced by September 12, with the position to begin ASAP but no later than October 1, 2009. Thank You! This will be a fun and rewarding job working with cool people in a great community. Good luck. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Bicipandilla mailing list Bicipandilla(a)bicyclekitchen.com http://nine.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/bicipandilla

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Volunteer Disciplinary Procedure/Conflict Resolution
by Maggie Burrus-Granger 26 Jul '09

26 Jul '09

Hi, Does anyone have a Volunteer Disciplinary Procedure or detailed Conflict Resolution plan that outlines how to deal with volunteers breaking bylaws/handbook rules/procedures etc. We're trying to write our bylaws and operating procedures and would like to include a process for such situations. Thanks, Maggie -- Maggie Burrus-Granger Recycle-a-Bike Program Coordinator 27 Sims Ave. Providence, RI 02909 401.273.7101 www.recycleabike.org

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getting to know each other ideas for bike!bike!
by rachael spiewak 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

Hi, everyone. After attending a handful of Bike!Bike! conferences and putting on a regional one, it seems to me that folks are looking for opportunities to: 1. tell their own bike shop stories, 2. have those stories be heard, and 3. get to know other shops with stories that resonate with them. I think facilitating some of that up front will make workshops move along faster and go deeper, and it would help us find that magical person we needed to talk to about whatever nagging issue's been bothering us. At BBSE we did a conference-wide go-around of introductions and then we broke out into pairs to share bike shop stories, which seemed to go really well. I think we could take it a few steps farther if folks are into it: 1. It might be nice to have info booths or tables for all of the shops if there's a big common area available at the conference. Then you could move about, see photos or slide shows, put faces to names, and show off what you're proud of at your shop. We did this at an community arts gathering in Atlanta a few weeks ago, and it was pretty great. It might lend to developing a few ad hoc workshops or post-conference partnerships. 2. And it might be nice to have a big map and push pins to get a visual geographic depiction of who's present. Anyway, just putting some ideas out there so we can get the most out of sharing a short period of with each other. Looking forward to it! Rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm

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Bike Maintenance Classes
by Jason Tanzman 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

Hi everybody, I'm putting together a workshop for Bikebike on how to organize and teach bike maintenance classes, and I would love some feedback from different sho Stps on their community education programs. Info I'm interested in includes: -Do you charge for your classes? If so, how much? -How many hours/weeks does your class last? -How many participants do you allow in each class? How many staff/core volunteers help teach the class? -How regularly do you offer classes? -How do you publicize your classes? -What classes do you offer? (Basic Bike Maintenance? Wheel Building? Safe Cycling/Commuting classes? Advanced Mechanics classes? I work with Sibley Bike Depot in St. Paul, MN; we teach all our classes for free which has been awesome. We've thought about charging for classes but decided that the benefits of bringing new people into the shop and educating current volunteers outweighs the revenues that we might get from charging for classes. We also receive about $1800 per year from a free community education program in the Twin Cities for teaching classes for free, which helps offset our costs of paying staff to teach classes. I would love to get information/feedback! Jason Tanzman Sibley Bike Depot www.sibleybikedepot.org

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Bicycle Repair Coordinator Job Posting at Cycles of Change APC in the SF Bay Area
by Cycles of Change APC 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

Cycles of Change APC Bike Shop seeks a Bicycle Repair Coordinator to join our fantastic, fast-paced and friendly grassroots, not-for-profit community bike shop in Alameda. The shop provides people of all backgrounds and ages earn-a-bike and job training programs, do-it-together repair access, bicycle donation drop-off and much more! The shop offers a full-range of services which fund the shop including sales of used bicycle and parts, and comprehensive bicycle repair services. We seek a staff person who will professionally and productively repair bicycles. The Cycles of Change APC shop has been thriving and this position is critical to its ongoing success. The primary responsibilities of this position are: • Repairs: o Repair a very wide range of used bicycles professionally and efficiently. o Excellent familiarity with compatibility and quality of used bicycle components. • Sales o Sell refurbished bicycles to people of all incomes and backgrounds from all over the Bay Area. • Saturday shop o Staff our community shop on Saturdays in order to assist with bike sales and helping visitors. • Active team member o This job requires that you have the passion for expertly repairing bikes, and that you deeply believe in the mission of the project. Following qualities are some which are important for success at this position: • Able to communicate effectively and patiently with people of all ages, backgrounds, preferences and income levels individually and in groups whether selling a bike, meeting with other staff/volunteers or teaching a young person how to fix a flat. • Ability to stay organized and grounded while multi-tasking. • Able to travel to Alameda 3-4 times per week, including Saturdays from 10am-5pm. • Commitment to recycling, reusing and reducing consumption in carrying out the work. • Strong desire to promote bicycle use as a strategy to strengthen the health and sustainability of communities. HOW TO APPLY: In order to apply for this position, please send or email, your resume and a brief letter of introduction about your interest and experience to: Email: bikeshop(a)apcollaborative.org See our craigslist posting at: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/npo/1274851559.html www.myspace.com/cyclesapc Mailing address: Cycles of Change APC 677 W. Ranger Avenue Alameda, CA 94501 COMPENSATION: This position pays $15/hour for between 12-20 hours per week. There are no additional benefits to this position currently, and we’re working on offering health benefits soon! There may be opportunities for increased hours in the Fall. We are an equal opportunity employer. Women, People of Color, and people with experience working w/ African-American and/or formerly homeless people and Alameda residents are strongly encouraged to apply!

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City Support
by 1304bikes 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

We at 1304bikes here in Raleigh recently had our shop shut down by the city due to zoning/building code issues. We are currently regrouping and fundraising, while trying to find a new space. We like to hear from other shops as to what kind of support you get from the cities you are located in (the actual city government, not the people in it). Whether it be donated space, money, or just good will. We are hoping to get some info about relationships that other shops have with their respective cities to use in our attempt to find a new location. Thanks all! -Doug -- 1304bikes www.1304bikes.org

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Re: [TheThinkTank] How do you keep track of your in kind donations?
by Clifford McCarten 17 Jul '09

17 Jul '09

For clarification (particularly on balance sheets) "in-kind" is not a blanket term to use whenever there is something exchanged in w/o cash. There is a critical distinction between donations coming in to your org, and donations going out that your org makes. "In-kind expenses" represent donations coming in to your shop (i.e., they are assets you've received that you would have otherwise had to pay for). "In-kind donations/contributions" represent donations your shop is making out into the world. Also, importantly, you can't consider trades to be donations because you have the same on-paper asset value at the end of the transaction. Cheers, Clifford McCarten Co-Director, B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop communitybikeshop.org 400 Wolfe St, Peterborough ON K9J 2P3 (705) 748-6681

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How do you keep track of your in kind donations?
by rachael spiewak 17 Jul '09

17 Jul '09

Hi, everyone. Gotta bookkeeping question for you. How do you keep track of your in kind donations, especially used items? Do you log every item? How do you assign value? Help me finish this sentence: The annual cost of stocking Awesome Bike Co-op's community bike repair shop is $X. Funding sources and amounts include: $X - self-generated funds $X - foundation funds $X - in kind donations I can assign numbers to everything but the in kind donations because we haven't tracked them, and a grant application is asking for this information. It looks like it would be good practice anyway. On the other hand, donations kind of come and go. People drop off handlebars and pick up a saddle with a total lack of formality. Should we exclude trades and stick only to the more formal donations (a box of parts, for example)? It would be easiest to restrict it to bike donations. Thoughts? Thanks! Rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm

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Re: [TheThinkTank] How do you keep track of your in kind donations?
by james blesdoe 16 Jul '09

16 Jul '09

we have a computer program that will generate a receipt when a Donner asks for one. we make a simple note saving for instance; one trek 4000 bicycle and two bicycle wheels. we do not assign a value or go into any detail concerning condition or quality. we also do not connect the donation to subsequent sales or disposal of the donations. jim bicycle kitchen los angeles --- On Thu, 7/16/09, reno bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: reno bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] How do you keep track of your in kind donations? To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 9:50 AM poorly, to say the least On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:01 AM, rachael spiewak <rachael(a)sopobikes.org> wrote: Hi, everyone. Gotta bookkeeping question for you. How do you keep track of your in kind donations, especially used items? Do you log every item? How do you assign value? Help me finish this sentence: The annual cost of stocking Awesome Bike Co-op's community bike repair shop is $X. Funding sources and amounts include: $X - self-generated funds $X - foundation funds $X - in kind donations I can assign numbers to everything but the in kind donations because we haven't tracked them, and a grant application is asking for this information. It looks like it would be good practice anyway. On the other hand, donations kind of come and go. People drop off handlebars and pick up a saddle with a total lack of formality. Should we exclude trades and stick only to the more formal donations (a box of parts, for example)? It would be easiest to restrict it to bike donations. Thoughts? Thanks! Rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- www.renobikeproject.com Wed-Sat 11-6pm 541 E. 4th Street. Reno, NV 89512 775.323.4488 Please let us know if you would like to unsubscribe to our email list. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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volunteer appreciation party
by MoBo Bicycle Co-op 16 Jul '09

16 Jul '09

Hello all, I'm from MoBo Bicycle Co-op in Cincinnati. We're an all volunteer run organization. Every year we like to throw a volunteer appreciation party to celebrate all the volunteers who bust their bust to make MoBo happen. The problem is, it ends up being the core volunteers who throw the event. We're brainstorming ways to have a fun event, that is moderately priced, that we don't have to put too much planning into. Any ideas? Lucia -- MoBo Bicycle Co-op a project of The Village Green Foundation 1415 Knowlton Ave Northside Cincinnati, OH

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Re: [TheThinkTank] [MBAC] Fwd: [People] The Alliance Needs Your Help to Earn
by noah 13 Jul '09

13 Jul '09

In response to all the negativity about Twitter, this is a worthwhile read. http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-other-half-writes-in-defense-of.ht…

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Re: [TheThinkTank] [MBAC] Fwd: [People] The Alliance Needs Your Help to Earn $42K
by R2carbaugh＠aol.com 13 Jul '09

13 Jul '09

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Fwd: [People] The Alliance Needs Your Help to Earn $42K
by Jonathan Morrison 10 Jul '09

10 Jul '09

Help raise money for national bicycle advocacy using Twitter! Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/ The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeremy Grandstaff <jeremy(a)peoplepoweredmovement.org> Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:41 PM Subject: [People] The Alliance Needs Your Help to Earn $42K To: people(a)peoplepoweredmovement.org *The Alliance Needs Your Help to Earn $42K * <http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/images/uploads/42Below.jpg>[image: image]<http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/images/uploads/42Below.jpg><http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/images/uploads/42Below.jpg>The Alliance is thrilled to announce an exciting challenge from 42BELOW Vodka. If 100,000 people sign up to follow their 42Ride across the U.S. this summer on Twitter, <http://twitter.com/WeLikeBike42> 42BELOW will make a $42K donation to the Alliance for Biking & Walking. I wanted to write to each of you with a reminder of the details, or you can also find them at www.PeoplePoweredMovement.org/42below<http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/42below> . The 42Ride began in Mid-June, by sending 42 cyclists from New York, south to Philadelphia, and then they split in to two groups of 21 riders heading westwards, one touring the north and one touring the south. Participants will pedal an impressive total of 4,017 miles across the country from New York City to Los Angeles, witnessing some of the most beautiful scenery the country has to offer. · Download a copy of the route map.<http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/images/uploads/Route42_Map.pdf>(PDF) · Follow the northern route riders<http://mikeywally.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/42-ride-blogroll/> · Follow the southern route riders.<http://mikeywally.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/southern-route-42-ride-blogroll/> The Alliance is asking all our members, supporters, and biking enthusiasts to support biking and walking by signing up to follow the 42Ride on twitter at http://twitter.com/WeLikeBike42. In addition, local Alliance groups are encourage to work with the 42 Ride administrators to take part in events that are coming to your neighborhood. · Download the list of upcoming welcome parties<http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/images/uploads/42BELOW_Biking_and…> · The attachment above lists all contact information for your organization to get involved with local events. If the challenge is met, the Alliance will use the $42K donation to further its work strengthening and uniting grassroots biking and walking advocacy organizations across North America. *Sign up on Twitter to follow the ride and support grassroots biking and walking advocacy! <http://twitter.com/WeLikeBike42>* For more information on this exciting partnership, feel free to contact me via email or phone. And, have a great weekend. Jeremy Grandstaff Member Services Director *Alliance for Biking and Walking* Formerly known as the Thunderhead Alliance PO Box 65150, Washington, DC 20035 | Visit us in person at 1612 K. St., Suite 802 Office: 202-449-9692 | Cell: 614-519-3026 | Fax: 202-223-3181 jeremy(a)PeoplePoweredMovement.org * * *Visit www.PeoplePoweredMovement.org <http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/>for information about the Advocacy Advance Grants * _______________________________________________ People mailing list Unsubscribe: People-unsubscribe(a)lists.peoplepoweredmovement.org List Info: http://lists.peoplepoweredmovement.org/listmanager/listinfo/people

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Help plan a charity event: How far can you coast?
by Carl Voss 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

Greetings from Des Moines! The Des Moines Bicycle Collective will sponsor a charity event on Saturday, Aug. 29 on the eve of a criterium race in our capitol city. The East Coast: How far can you coast down a steep hill from the Iowa State Capitol? (The capitol is located in our city's East Village. We are, of course, far removed from either coast. Flip the chain off the chainwheel at let 'er go! Top coasters will win a coasters. Weight won't be the only factor. There's a fairly good flat section that will even things out from the big riders. Tuck, steering, cone adjustment should be factors-we're just not sure how much. We haven't figured out what categories/divisions that will make this a fun event. That's where you come in--your chance to weigh in (so to speak). Categories by: age? bike type? gender? weight? (could be tricky with a scale) We think we can do better than a one-time "Lard Arse" event (coast down the local Soap Box Derby hill) held here years ago. With your helpful suggestions, of course. Carl Des Moines Bicycle Collective carlvoss(a)mac.com Mobile: 515-210-0237

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum?
by troy neiman 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

I am getting ready to put a wheel building class together. I was thinking about charging $30-$40 dollars to those who are building wheels for themselves and $15-20 for those who build a wheel for the shop to use. This would be similar to the set up that Rich at Community Cycles mentioned ( three 2 hour classes ) that way the first class can be about wheels, rims, hubs and measuring spokes so that folks can buy or find the materials they need before the next class. I also liked the way Ellie at the Bike Church taught the wheel-building workshop at BikeBike last year. The rims and hubs and spokes were already picked out and the groups had to find the correct spoke length before they could get the spokes. Then they were able to learn lacing and tension, etc. This makes for a faster class and having all your materials ready cuts down on time and unexpected mistakes. You could charge less or nothing for this and still end up with a few wheels for the shop at the end. Troy NeimanBICAS ----- Original Message ----- From: bovineoaks(a)aol.com To: thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum? Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:51:22 -0400 Each student has different needs for the wheels they put on their bicycles. It is hard to buy a bunch of rims and hubs that will make each rider happy. I let them choose rims and hubs they want and get them from other shops if I can not provide the materials. I am providing the Education Materials or the Wheel Building Class, That is enough. If I can supply the materials also, that is just dandy too. Lots of shops out there can supply materials but not education. -----Original Message----- From: allison karow <bike.saviours(a)gmail.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Sent: Mon, Jul 6, 2009 2:08 am Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum? What about buying new parts and then giving the students the option of buying the wheel at your shop's price minus the cost of the class? On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Sam Santos <lalato(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi Rich, Why not do both, depending on what the student can afford? We did a couple of a free wheel building classes for our volunteers using parts that were lying around. One way to avoid problems that might crop up with used parts is to have the students deconstruct a wheel prior to the class. That way they will be working with all the parts from the same wheel thereby reducing any potential problems. Good luck with the class! --sam On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Rich Points <rich(a)communitycycles.org> wrote: Hey All, We're developing a wheel building class here at Community Cycles. We have a rough idea of what we'd like to do but we could use some help smoothing it out. We're thinking the class would be three 2 hour sessions at a cost of $X to 6 - 8 students. We've thought of two ways to go about supplies for the class. One would be to use recycled rims, hubs, nipples and maybe spokes. Another way would be to buy the parts from our wholesalers. The latter option means we could have control of what the class is working with. The former option could mean a lot more on the fly problem solving for the instructor and class but it'd be a lot cheaper for us and our students. I'm leaning towards the new parts option because I think it'll provide the highest quality of instruction. What do you guys think? Another question we're trying to figure out is what happens to the wheels that get built in the class. At our shop we're always in dire need of 700cc wheels. So we're thinking the class could build 700 wheels and they'd be used by the shop. However people taking the class may want to build wheels that they'd keep as their own. If we structure the class to just build 700 fronts we have more consistency and control. If we let folks build wheels for their own projects the class might have more general appeal but presents logistical and supplies hurdles. Please let us know how your shop is teaching wheel building. Ride On! -- Rich Points Community Cycles Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C) Donate your old car to Community Cycles http://communitycycles.org/get-involved/donatecar.html Make your ride count! 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Re: [TheThinkTank] 'rental' bikes
by troy neiman 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

At BICAS we have a fleet of rental bikes that are mostly coaster brake bikes of varied sizes. They are spray painted all different colors so that they are ugly and easy to spot. We have a name plate welded inside the main triangle that says BICAS RENTAL and has our contact info. These rental bikes have been returned to us after being lost before but sometimes do go missing. We charge $5 per day or $20 for the week or about 30 min of work-trade per day. I joke around about how these rental bikes are gold mines but some of them that have been around for years but seriously I would not be surprised if some of these bikes have raised $500 dollars or more for our organization. And we are talking about heavy, single speed, ugly bikes with ripped up seats and solid tires. The lock situation was really hard because we used to buy locks and then end up with a bunch of locks and keys that did not match but then we started welding chains to the frame and pad locks to the chains. All the keys for the rental bikes are the same key so we don't have to match a key to the lock and if a key disappears then we only need to make a copy and not get a hole new lock. This has worked really well. We do sign people out for them and get a phone #, email, or ID # but its mostly just a formality than anything. No deposits are taken. Troy Neiman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Giordano" To: "The Think Tank" Subject: [TheThinkTank] 'rental' bikes Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:22:25 -0600 (MDT) we do rentals with whatever is on hand. good income. $1/day, $5/week, $15/month, negotiate for longer. most come back. some marked with 'free cycles checkout', some painted green. some with fenders, baskets etc. sometimes they do the work to get it rolling. no deposit- too messy. flexible. we also have a community fleet with 60 (mostly one speed, rear derailer limit screw cranked) bikes.... goes to large groups, like Korean and Japanese teachers coming to missoula next week thru university program. we had 500 helmets donated by hospital. not many takers. local gov't group gives us free blinky red lights. not great, but usable. sometimes we do locks, sometimes not. (we want to make our own!) we give brief training/ rules of roads to all... many times a really good bike will be a checkout for awhile, and then go into the build a bike program. -bob g. free cycles missoula. info(a)re-cycles.ca wrote: > > We take a similar approach and sell people a discounted AS-IS bike (tuned-up used department store bike) for around $40 Cdn if they promise to dontate it back when they are finished with it. This avoids a lot of hassles with tracking the rentals and with our lack of insurance coverage > for rentals. > > Chris Wells > (Email Handler & one of many Volunteer Head Mechanics) > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com

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OpenSprints: Logo Artist needed
by Jonathan Morrison 06 Jul '09

06 Jul '09

You may or may not know that there is an open source goldsprints / roller racing project out there called opensprints (www.opensprints.org). One thing that we are truly lacking is a quality (vector drawn) logo, if you are interested in helping with this please contact me. Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison

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'rental' bikes
by Bob Giordano 06 Jul '09

06 Jul '09

we do rentals with whatever is on hand. good income. $1/day, $5/week, $15/month, negotiate for longer. most come back. some marked with 'free cycles checkout', some painted green. some with fenders, baskets etc. sometimes they do the work to get it rolling. no deposit- too messy. flexible. we also have a community fleet with 60 (mostly one speed, rear derailer limit screw cranked) bikes.... goes to large groups, like Korean and Japanese teachers coming to missoula next week thru university program. we had 500 helmets donated by hospital. not many takers. local gov't group gives us free blinky red lights. not great, but usable. sometimes we do locks, sometimes not. (we want to make our own!) we give brief training/ rules of roads to all... many times a really good bike will be a checkout for awhile, and then go into the build a bike program. -bob g. free cycles missoula. info(a)re-cycles.ca wrote: > > We take a similar approach and sell people a discounted AS-IS bike (tuned-up used department store bike) for around $40 Cdn if they promise to dontate it back when they are finished with it. This avoids a lot of hassles with tracking the rentals and with our lack of insurance coverage > for rentals. > > Chris Wells > (Email Handler & one of many Volunteer Head Mechanics) >

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Coming to PDX, need a bike to ride while there.
by info＠re-cycles.ca 06 Jul '09

06 Jul '09

We take a similar approach and sell people a discounted AS-IS bike (tuned-up used department store bike) for around $40 Cdn if they promise to dontate it back when they are finished with it. This avoids a lot of hassles with tracking the rentals and with our lack of insurance coverage for rentals. Chris Wells (Email Handler & one of many Volunteer Head Mechanics) re-Cycles Bicycle Co-op 477 Bronson Ave. Ottawa info(a)re-cycles.ca http://www.re-cycles.ca/ --- On Fri, 7/3/09, veganboyjosh(a)gmail.com <veganboyjosh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: veganboyjosh(a)gmail.com <veganboyjosh(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Coming to PDX, need a bike to ride while there. > To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Received: Friday, July 3, 2009, 8:37 PM > Community Cycles in Boulder doesn't > rent bikes, but we get asked about it all the time. Our work > around is that we'll sell you a bike and then you can > donate it back when you're done. No deposit, return it > in whatever shape. > > I don't know if we've had any takers to date, but > it evens out with our local bike rental places after about 5 > days or so. >

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Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum?
by Rich Points 06 Jul '09

06 Jul '09

Hey All, We're developing a wheel building class here at Community Cycles. We have a rough idea of what we'd like to do but we could use some help smoothing it out. We're thinking the class would be three 2 hour sessions at a cost of $X to 6 - 8 students. We've thought of two ways to go about supplies for the class. One would be to use recycled rims, hubs, nipples and maybe spokes. Another way would be to buy the parts from our wholesalers. The latter option means we could have control of what the class is working with. The former option could mean a lot more on the fly problem solving for the instructor and class but it'd be a lot cheaper for us and our students. I'm leaning towards the new parts option because I think it'll provide the highest quality of instruction. What do you guys think? Another question we're trying to figure out is what happens to the wheels that get built in the class. At our shop we're always in dire need of 700cc wheels. So we're thinking the class could build 700 wheels and they'd be used by the shop. However people taking the class may want to build wheels that they'd keep as their own. If we structure the class to just build 700 fronts we have more consistency and control. If we let folks build wheels for their own projects the class might have more general appeal but presents logistical and supplies hurdles. Please let us know how your shop is teaching wheel building. Ride On! -- Rich Points Community Cycles Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C) Donate your old car to Community Cycles http://communitycycles.org/get-involved/donatecar.html Make your ride count! Register for Bike to Work Day June 24, 2009 http://www.drcog.org/btwd2009/index.cfm?page=Register

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google squared useful for cataloging community bikes shops
by rachael spiewak 06 Jul '09

06 Jul '09

For the computery types on the list.. If you enter "community bike shop" (or bicycle collective, etc) into Google Squared, a nifty spreadsheet comes up with a handful of our shops. If anyone wants to take it on, it could be expanded to include everyone and all sorts of useful info. It might be a good way to answer some frequently asked questions, like "who has a youth earn-a-bike program?" or "what's your mission statement?". -rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm

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Coming to PDX, need a bike to ride while there.
by Julian Beldotti 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

Hailing here from Fort Collins, CO. I'm about to take a quick reprieve from the small city life, to a big small city, and hang out in Portland for 10 days in July. Last time I was there and attempted to borrow a bike, citybikes or whatever wanted to charge me 15 bux a day. It wasn't very co-op friendly of them, I thought. So this time, I'm hollering at all ya'll in the Portland area who are bike co-op connected to see if I can borrow a bike while I'm there, so I don't have to take the rail everywhere. Holler. Julian.

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Creative solutions for handling/storing shop pumps?
by veganboyjosh＠gmail.com 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

We've got a number of donated, bought, and found floor pumps in our shop. A variety of brands, sizes, and shapes. Right now they just live in a corner, but they like to play the domino game and fall over themselves when someone goes to grab one. Does anyone have any creative things you've done to handle this problem? As always, pictures are great. Thanks! josh.

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Hiring an employee / Advertising
by Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Hi All, Thanks for the advice a ways back on hiring mechanics as contractors. I may just be paranoid worrying about things but I have another employment question. Say a community bike shop wanted to hire a person for the summer to develop a board of directors as well as youth and free bike programming....Is this something we have to advertise publicly about or can we just make the decision as a collective and hire someone? We know someone that is perfect for the job (experience and enthusiasm), Thanks! Brian Urban Bike Project of Wilmington -a 501(c)3 non-profit bike shop- 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19802 Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00 Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org

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Duzer Duz America - Bike Tour
by Ryan Guzy 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

I don't think this has been posted to the list before, I'm surprised Josh didn't let us know sooner :-) Ryan Van Duzer is riding a New Belgium three speed across the US raising money for Community Cycles in Boulder, filming for his blog and a newspaper, and doing bike advocacy. His blog and info are here: http://ryanvanduzer.com/ He's a really cool guy, we hung out and rode with him while he was in Tempe this past weekend, and he was at BICAS in Tucson today. While he was in town he did some filming at Bike Saviours and with another bike advocacy group I'm involved in, TBAG. Check out his route to see if he's coming your way, he should be heading through Las Cruces and Albuquerque next. <http://ryanvanduzer.com/>*Ryan Guzy* Bike Saviours Tempe, AZ www.bikesaviours.org

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Website, hosting...
by Jason Moore 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

Hi, I'm with the Davis Bike Church and we are looking to setup a new website for our group (we've been using the daviswiki.org). I want a site that will allow anyone with permission to add content, allow for calendars, forms, online donations, etc, and have our own domain name and a decent amount of server space (~1GB) so we can use it to share files and documents. I want to run an open source content management system such as plone, joomla, drupal, etc to do these things and wanted to ask some questions about how other groups handle this: 1. Recommendations on which CMS if I've never used a CMS before? Which one offers functionality that bike collectives typically need? Which one is easiest for end users? 2. Where do you host your site? How much is it? Can non-profits get free or reduced price hosting? 3. Any other tips on website related stuff? Rev. Jason Moore Davis Bike Church

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Business Licensing mumbo jumbo
by Erik at Recyclery 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

I know laws aren't all the same everywhere, but The Recyclery has been told that we will be needing a second-hand business license because we sell used bicycles and parts. We don't pay for anything used--everything is donation-only--and this would mean that we have to take IDs from every buyer and donor. There are a number of other prohibitive restrictions obviously aimed more toward pawn shops than charitable organizations, but our indepented 501(c)3 status hasn't gone through yet. As of now we are just planning on not holding sales in our new shop. Has anyone else had to grapple with this while trying to open as a "legitimate" business? erik -- The Recyclery Collective 7628 N Paulina Chicago, IL 60626 P: 773.262.5900 F: 773.751.5241 www.therecyclery.org

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helmets, lights, locks, and other essential accessories
by rachael spiewak 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

Hi, everyone. For those who have distributor accounts, do you order and distribute helmets, lights, and locks? How does that work? -rachael -- Sopo Bicycle Cooperative 404-425-9989 www.sopobikes.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hours of operation: Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm

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Cutting Bike Locks
by Scott Beardsley 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

I'm involved with the Sacramento Bicycle Kitchen in California. We recently sealed a deal with the local Police to take 30-40 bikes/month off of their hands in return for working with troubled (meaning law-breaking) teens (something we're doing already anyways). I'm really excited about this and it'll bring even more exposure to our quickly growing shop/org along with giving us a ton of extra used parts. I have a question about breaking/cutting locks. Most of the bikes we will get still have locks (U-locks, chains, cables locks, etc) on them. What is the best way to remove these? Right now we are passing it on to the customer, but it'd be nice to at least have the proper tools if they wanted to DIY it. So far we have zero power tools in the shop. This might end up being the exception. What do we need to consider? Eye protection for everyone? Tell me how you handle these issues in your shop. Thanks! Scott

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Wheel Building classes
by Jason Tanzman 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

Hi Rich and others, At Sibley Bike Depot in St. Paul, MN we've taught a number of successful wheel building classes. We usually have 8-14 participants. We usually have two instructors (pretty much for all of our classes) which includes one mechanic with reasonable wheel building experience and one mechanic who works at Quality Bike Products in the Wheel Building division (so he is truly an expert). We've tried both used parts and new parts for our wheels; since we're usually low in 27" rear wheels, in our last class, we deconstructed 27" front rims (which are always in abundance) and rebuilt the rims with rear high flange Normandy hubs (in abundance off of old schwinns and others). This ended up not working super well - the single wall used rims did not rebuild well, and we had a couple wheels literally taco in my hands when I was attempting to de-tension spokes. We built a few wheels using the rear normandy hubs and new Sun CR18 rims - those worked way better. We used new spokes for all wheel builds. In general, wheel building is pretty hard to teach, especially if you're using used rims. For future wheel building classes, I think we will build with all new parts - we've built a number of track wheels using dimension/formula hubs - it comes to around $65/wheel wholesale in parts but you can sell those wheels for $100-120, or put them on old road bikes and add value (especially if your shop is having trouble getting decent bikes donated for your sales floor). You can also charge $20 for parts/materials for the class to offset the investment in expensive new parts - that's what we do (registration is free for all classes, except for the parts/materials offset for wheel classes). We have always let people purchase parts at retail prices and build wheels for themselves - it gives us a bit of revenue, and people get to build something that they can keep. Jason Tanzman jtanzman(a)riseup.net thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Cutting Bike Locks (Scott Beardsley) > 2. Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum? (Rich Points) > 3. Re: Cutting Bike Locks (Stuart O Anderson) > 4. Re: Cutting Bike Locks (reno bikes) > 5. Re: Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum? (Sam Santos) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:25:22 -0700 > From: Scott Beardsley <scott(a)sacbikekitchen.org> > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Cutting Bike Locks > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Message-ID: > <67b59b4e0906231525r103fccd9w6f9b84b37540e9b8(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I'm involved with the Sacramento Bicycle Kitchen in California. We > recently sealed a deal with the local Police to take 30-40 bikes/month > off of their hands in return for working with troubled (meaning > law-breaking) teens (something we're doing already anyways). I'm > really excited about this and it'll bring even more exposure to our > quickly growing shop/org along with giving us a ton of extra used > parts. I have a question about breaking/cutting locks. Most of the > bikes we will get still have locks (U-locks, chains, cables locks, > etc) on them. What is the best way to remove these? Right now we are > passing it on to the customer, but it'd be nice to at least have the > proper tools if they wanted to DIY it. So far we have zero power tools > in the shop. This might end up being the exception. What do we need to > consider? Eye protection for everyone? Tell me how you handle these > issues in your shop. > > Thanks! > Scott > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:27:16 -0600 > From: Rich Points <rich(a)communitycycles.org> > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Anyone have a wheel building class curriculum? > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Message-ID: <4A4156C4.6030207(a)communitycycles.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Hey All, > We're developing a wheel building class here at Community Cycles. We > have a rough idea of what we'd like to do but we could use some help > smoothing it out. > > We're thinking the class would be three 2 hour sessions at a cost of $X > to 6 - 8 students. > > We've thought of two ways to go about supplies for the class. One would > be to use recycled rims, hubs, nipples and maybe spokes. Another way > would be to buy the parts from our wholesalers. The latter option means > we could have control of what the class is working with. The former > option could mean a lot more on the fly problem solving for the > instructor and class but it'd be a lot cheaper for us and our students. > I'm leaning towards the new parts option because I think it'll provide > the highest quality of instruction. What do you guys think? > > Another question we're trying to figure out is what happens to the > wheels that get built in the class. At our shop we're always in dire > need of 700cc wheels. So we're thinking the class could build 700 > wheels and they'd be used by the shop. However people taking the class > may want to build wheels that they'd keep as their own. If we structure > the class to just build 700 fronts we have more consistency and > control. If we let folks build wheels for their own projects the class > might have more general appeal but presents logistical and supplies > hurdles. > > Please let us know how your shop is teaching wheel building. > > Ride On! > >

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bylaws
by KRANK IT UP community bicycle shop 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

there is a new info shop opening here in tallahassee and they are working on bylaws so they can start working on their 501(c)3 and state nonprofit paperwork. the organization is a collective and i suggested setting up the board of directors as an advisory board that has no decision making ability, much like the yellow bike project in austin. my question is: do the bylaws have to contain the decision making methods of the collective, or can they just have information on the board and just state that decisions are made by the collective counsel? i guess the benefit would be that the collective can have be more fluid in its structure if its not contained in the bylaws, but if the board has no decision making ability, will the government accept bylaws without the collectives structure? justin krank it up! community bicycle project 663 industrial drive tallahassee, fl 32310 www.krankitup.info > From: thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org > Subject: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 34, Issue 27 > To: thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:00:58 -0700 > > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Wheels and Truing Workspaces in your shop > (Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:37:23 -0400 > From: "Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE" <urbanbikeproject(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Wheels and Truing Workspaces in your shop > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> > Message-ID: > <eddde2f70906211537s25a53615g25a59291d969dd52(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Here's a picture of our modest truing station...The cone wrenches reside > next to the station on the master toolkit, along with chain breakers and > other stuff. The whole setup is movable, though it usually stays right > where it is. As you can see, it tends to collect random junk/parts, like > all flat surfaces in the shop. > > Brian > > Urban Bike Project of Wilmington > -a 501(c)3 non-profit bike shop- > 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) > Wilmington, DE 19802 > > Hours: > Thursday 6:30-9:00 > Saturday 1:00-4:00 > > Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM, <veganboyjosh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Here's a picture of the bicycle kitchen (LA)'s wheel truing "room",<http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Ms7n82ikuU5mhdJSEq_aTA?authkey=Gv1sRgC…>taken when I was visiting late last year. > > > > The thing I liked most about it was the directional lighting above each > > stand. It's also set up at a sitting height, with chairs. Presumably, when > > you're using a truing stand, you'll be at it much longer than if you were at > > a vise or something. It's also outside of the normal flow of traffic/shop > > floor, so you can focus more readily on the wheel you're working on without > > being distracted. Very nice. > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 11:07 AM, rachael spiewak <rachael(a)sopobikes.org>wrote: > > > >> We keep the cone wrenches by the stationary truing stand, and that's in > >> the back of the shop, so you have to travel a long way to get to those > >> wrenches. The box wrenches live near the front of the shop, far far away > >> from the cone wrenches. Seems to help. I do think people get hungry > >> sometimes and gnaw on the cone wrenches. > >> > >> The freewheel tools are in the center of the shop, next to the vice. > >> > >> -rachael > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Rich Points <rich(a)communitycycles.org>wrote: > >> > >>> Collectives, > >>> We're about to start digging into setting up our new space, specifically > >>> the wheel and truing station. Right now we have a dedicated work space for > >>> a truing stand, spokes and hubs but our cone wrenches, free wheel and > >>> cassette tools are mixed in with our general tool bench. Because of this > >>> our cone wrenches are often used for the most inappropriate jobs imaginable. > >>> We also have a couple extra truing stands that float around the shop. > >>> > >>> Now that we have a little more space we want to set up a wheels and > >>> truing area of the shop. I'd love to see photos of how you do this in your > >>> shops. > >>> > >>> Looking forward to your responses. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Rich Points > >>> Community Cycles Director > >>> http://CommunityCycles.org > >>> Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org > >>> 720-565-6019 (W) > >>> 303-589-0597 (C) > >>> Donate your old car to Community Cycles > >>> http://communitycycles.org/get-involved/donatecar.html > >>> Make your ride count! Register for Bike to Work Day June 24, 2009 > >>> http://www.drcog.org/btwd2009/index.cfm?page=Register > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Thethinktank mailing list > >>> Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > >>> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > >>> TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > >>> To manage your subscription, plase visit: > >>> > >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sopo Bicycle Cooperative > >> 404-425-9989 > >> www.sopobikes.org > >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >> Hours of operation: > >> Tues, Wed, & Thurs 7 pm - 10 pm > >> Sat & Sun 2 pm - 6 pm > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Thethinktank mailing list > >> Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > >> TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > >> To manage your subscription, plase visit: > >> > >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thethinktank mailing list > > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > > TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > > > >

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Cutting Bike Locks
by Will Wolfe 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

Sticking with the human powered method, we use a 4 1/2 ft. industrial grade, monster of a bolt cutter to get through U-locks and anything else that stands in the way. Don't know where it came from, but its quick and quiet. -Will 21st St. Coop Bike Project --- On Tue, 6/23/09, reno bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: reno bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Cutting Bike Locks To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 11:16 PM angle grinder with cutting wheel. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Stuart O Anderson <soa(a)ri.cmu.edu> wrote: Bolt-cutters are low cost and pretty safe, and will get you through cables and chains. A hacksaw is slow and labor intensive but will eventually get you through a u-lock. An angle-grinder with a good cutting disc is my preferred tool for this work, although I wouldn't feel comfortable handing it to a random volunteer. If you do get an angle grinder, consider getting a 6" one so you can use it to cut up frames too, I've also heard (but never used myself) that a portable hand-held bandsaw (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_20030896…) works well for this... Stuart On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Scott Beardsley<scott(a)sacbikekitchen.org> wrote: > I'm involved with the Sacramento Bicycle Kitchen in California. We > recently sealed a deal with the local Police to take 30-40 bikes/month > off of their hands in return for working with troubled (meaning > law-breaking) teens (something we're doing already anyways). I'm > really excited about this and it'll bring even more exposure to our > quickly growing shop/org along with giving us a ton of extra used > parts. I have a question about breaking/cutting locks. Most of the > bikes we will get still have locks (U-locks, chains, cables locks, > etc) on them. What is the best way to remove these? Right now we are > passing it on to the customer, but it'd be nice to at least have the > proper tools if they wanted to DIY it. So far we have zero power tools > in the shop. This might end up being the exception. What do we need to > consider? Eye protection for everyone? Tell me how you handle these > issues in your shop. > > Thanks! > Scott > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives..org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… -- www.renobikeproject.com Wed-Sat 11-6pm 541 E. 4th Street. Reno, NV 89512 775.323.4488 Please let us know if you would like to unsubscribe to our email list. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave(a)bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.…

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collective call
by bike talk 22 Jun '09

22 Jun '09

Hi, I stopped writing our weekly emails to the thinktank list because some collectives were getting kind of cranky (pun!) about all the email and the local issues we put out, but I think this is a valid query: does anyone want to be part of a collective phone call, otherwise known as a conference call, about collective issues like spreadsheets, shop space, volunteers, structure, and management? I think we'd be doing it thurs. night. Nick -- please let us know if you want to be taken off this list. Hear Bike Talk! live on www.killradio.org, 10am-noon Saturdays. Call in at (213) 252-0998. Hear the podcast at kpfk.org: http://www.kpfk.org/programs/170-bike-talk.html See what's new with us at www.biketalk.us

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Wheels and Truing Workspaces in your shop
by Rich Points 21 Jun '09

21 Jun '09

Collectives, We're about to start digging into setting up our new space, specifically the wheel and truing station. Right now we have a dedicated work space for a truing stand, spokes and hubs but our cone wrenches, free wheel and cassette tools are mixed in with our general tool bench. Because of this our cone wrenches are often used for the most inappropriate jobs imaginable. We also have a couple extra truing stands that float around the shop. Now that we have a little more space we want to set up a wheels and truing area of the shop. I'd love to see photos of how you do this in your shops. Looking forward to your responses. -- Rich Points Community Cycles Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich(a)CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C) Donate your old car to Community Cycles http://communitycycles.org/get-involved/donatecar.html Make your ride count! Register for Bike to Work Day June 24, 2009 http://www.drcog.org/btwd2009/index.cfm?page=Register

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volunteer application
by Liza Mattana 20 Jun '09

20 Jun '09

Hey, Does anyone have a volunteer application they'd be willing to share? Pedals2People is finally seeing a lot of interest from possible volunteers, and we feel like we should have a more formal process for new folks. Before, it was all friends-of-friends showing up, but now we're actually growing (yay!) and meeting many new people. If there's a helpful application out there, please send it my way! Thanks, Liza -- Liza Mattana president www.pedals2people.org Spokane, WA

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BICAS is hiring!
by troy neiman 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

Hiring Community Mechanic/Educator. 20hrs/week BICAS (Bicycle Inter-Community Action & Salvage) is a collectively-run non-profit community education and recycling center for bicycles. We are currently seeking a qualified mechanic to fill shifts in our community shop and co-coordinate womens and trans classes/workshops. Duties include: teaching bicycle repair skills, refurbishing bikes, coordinating volunteers, assisting customers, etc. Strong mechanical and personal skills, bilingual, and commitment for long term employment a plus. $8.50/hr. Accepting resumes until Aug 1st @ 44 W. 6th St (drop in or mail) or e-mail bicas(a)bicas.org. Call 628-7950 for more information. www.bicas.org. Love Peace and Bicycle Grease! -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com

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