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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 132, Issue 2
by Tegan Moss 06 Sep '17

06 Sep '17

At B!KE in Peterborough Ontario we charge $4 per cable and $2 per foot for housing. All our cables are stainless and all the housing is slick-lined. The prices are all tax inclusive. At that price you can re-cable a bike for less than $30. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:13 PM, < thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: > Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to > thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Josh Bisker) > 2. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Scott Long) > 3. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Arlin Schaffel) > 4. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Gabriel Trainer) > 5. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Reno Bikes) > 6. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (LaBikery) > 7. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Shannon Southwood) > 8. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Michael Young) > 9. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Ainsley Naylor) > 10. Hiring an Education Coordinator at Community Cycles, Boulder > CO (Sue Prant) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 18:06:09 -0400 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you > recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice > the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for > doing so per se? > > We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas > about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. > > Josh Bisker > 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> > New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> > 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> > Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Scott Long <scott.m.long(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 18:15:50 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > We get ours from QBP in the box of 100. They cost us $0.33 cents each. We > don't sell them directly to the public for the most part, but we use them > in repairs and they go for $1 each. We reuse housing for the most part so > the cost is almost nothing. > > On Sep 5, 2017 6:07 PM, "Josh Bisker" <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you > recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice > the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for > doing so per se? > > We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas > about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. > > Josh Bisker > 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> > New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> > 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> > Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o > rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Arlin Schaffel <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 16:16:18 -0600 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past with > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. > > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at > $1.00/cable & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops > but it hasn't been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving > different clients than our local shops. > > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and > modified from there. > > > *Arlin Schaffel* > *Bridge City Bicycle Co-op* > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ > twitter.com/the_bcbc > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for >> doing so per se? >> >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of >> ideas about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. >> >> Josh Bisker >> 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:30:37 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing: > > Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members > > Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot > > We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils, > and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use. > > Gabriel > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel > <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> wrote: > > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past with > > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. > > > > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at > $1.00/cable > > & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it > hasn't > > been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different > clients > > than our local shops. > > > > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the > > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and > > modified from there. > > > > > > Arlin Schaffel > > Bridge City Bicycle Co-op > > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com > > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ > > twitter.com/the_bcbc > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you > >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to > underprice > >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale > for > >> doing so per se? > >> > >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of > ideas > >> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. > >> > >> Josh Bisker > >> 914-500-9890 > >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op > >> 596 Acres > >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus > >> > >> ____________________________________ > >> > >> The ThinkTank mailing List > >> > >> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > >> > >> > > > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Reno Bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:55:39 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > At Reno Bike Project we do pretty much just like Bike Farm, above. > $2/cable and $1/foot of housing. Used cables and housing are free/donations > accepted. > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> > wrote: > >> At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing: >> >> Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members >> >> Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot >> >> We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils, >> and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use. >> >> Gabriel >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel >> <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> wrote: >> > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past >> with >> > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. >> > >> > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at >> $1.00/cable >> > & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it >> hasn't >> > been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different >> clients >> > than our local shops. >> > >> > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the >> > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and >> > modified from there. >> > >> > >> > Arlin Schaffel >> > Bridge City Bicycle Co-op >> > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com >> > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ >> > twitter.com/the_bcbc >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you >> >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to >> underprice >> >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale >> for >> >> doing so per se? >> >> >> >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of >> ideas >> >> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. >> >> >> >> Josh Bisker >> >> 914-500-9890 >> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op >> >> 596 Acres >> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus >> >> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bi >> kecollectives.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > >> > The ThinkTank mailing List >> > >> > Unsubscribe from this list here: >> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bi >> kecollectives.org >> > >> > >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> > > > -- > > Monday-Wednesday, Saturday 10am-5pm > Thursday-Friday 10am-6pm > Sunday 11am-4pm > 541 E. 4th Street. > Reno, NV 89512 > 775-323-4488 <(775)%20323-4488> > > Donate via Paypal > <https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=vuvKXYxQM2VBR5M9BfV-SidWS6o5AjC5cqYqR4…> > | Follow us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/renobikeproject> | > Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/renobikeproject/> | Twitter > <https://twitter.com/renobikeproject> > > Please let us know if you would like to unsubscribe to our email list. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: LaBikery <labikery(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2017 16:04:05 +0000 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > We also don't re-use old cables/housing (however sometimes people will > still grab it from our recycle bin). Typically we explain why it's better > to use new (as Arlin explained). If people can't afford the price we have a > Fund set aside that and we'll give them new cables/housing. > > Our prices are $1.50 per cable, and $1/ft for housing. > > We stick pretty hard to keeping our prices at a 50% markup from our > supplier so that it's a fair market price. (Our prices are set at cables we > bought quite a few years ago when we did a big order...we have to order > more so they'll likely go up a tad soon). > > Because we have a fund put aside for folks that can't afford parts it > means that people can pay-what-they-can or not at all. We don't advertise > that fund really but we let anyone know when they come in not to worry > about money as a barrier to repairs. > > Krysta > > On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 19:55 Reno Bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> At Reno Bike Project we do pretty much just like Bike Farm, above. >> $2/cable and $1/foot of housing. Used cables and housing are free/donations >> accepted. >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> >> wrote: >> >>> At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing: >>> >>> Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members >>> >>> Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot >>> >>> We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils, >>> and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use. >>> >>> Gabriel >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel >>> <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> wrote: >>> > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past >>> with >>> > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. >>> > >>> > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at >>> $1.00/cable >>> > & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it >>> hasn't >>> > been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different >>> clients >>> > than our local shops. >>> > >>> > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the >>> > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and >>> > modified from there. >>> > >>> > >>> > Arlin Schaffel >>> > Bridge City Bicycle Co-op >>> > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com >>> > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ >>> > twitter.com/the_bcbc >>> > >>> > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout >>> you >>> >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to >>> underprice >>> >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale >>> for >>> >> doing so per se? >>> >> >>> >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of >>> ideas >>> >> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. >>> >> >>> >> Josh Bisker >>> >> 914-500-9890 >>> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op >>> >> 596 Acres >>> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus >>> >> >>> >> ____________________________________ >>> >> >>> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >> >>> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank- >>> bikecollectives.org >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > ____________________________________ >>> > >>> > The ThinkTank mailing List >>> > >>> > Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank- >>> bikecollectives.org >>> > >>> > >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. >>> org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Monday-Wednesday, Saturday 10am-5pm >> Thursday-Friday 10am-6pm >> Sunday 11am-4pm >> 541 E. 4th Street. >> Reno, NV 89512 >> 775-323-4488 <(775)%20323-4488> >> >> Donate via Paypal >> <https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=vuvKXYxQM2VBR5M9BfV-SidWS6o5AjC5cqYqR4…> >> | Follow us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/renobikeproject> | >> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/renobikeproject/> | Twitter >> <https://twitter.com/renobikeproject> >> >> Please let us know if you would like to unsubscribe to our email list. >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives. >> org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Shannon Southwood <shannon(a)sacbikekitchen.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:21:50 -0700 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > At Sac Bike Kitchen, we also do $2/each for cables and $1/ft for housing > with used cables and housing being free. We used to not allow cables and > housing sales for projects outside the shop but recently changed this as > our contacts at the local bike shops made pretty clear what we do doesn't > effect them in any appreciable way. It probably helps that our hours are > limited and we are usually open when they are closed... > > -Shannon > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:04 AM, LaBikery <labikery(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> We also don't re-use old cables/housing (however sometimes people will >> still grab it from our recycle bin). Typically we explain why it's better >> to use new (as Arlin explained). If people can't afford the price we have a >> Fund set aside that and we'll give them new cables/housing. >> >> Our prices are $1.50 per cable, and $1/ft for housing. >> >> We stick pretty hard to keeping our prices at a 50% markup from our >> supplier so that it's a fair market price. (Our prices are set at cables we >> bought quite a few years ago when we did a big order...we have to order >> more so they'll likely go up a tad soon). >> >> Because we have a fund put aside for folks that can't afford parts it >> means that people can pay-what-they-can or not at all. We don't advertise >> that fund really but we let anyone know when they come in not to worry >> about money as a barrier to repairs. >> >> Krysta >> >> >> On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 19:55 Reno Bikes <renobikeproject(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> At Reno Bike Project we do pretty much just like Bike Farm, above. >>> $2/cable and $1/foot of housing. Used cables and housing are free/donations >>> accepted. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Gabriel Trainer <getrainer(a)bikefarm.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing: >>>> >>>> Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members >>>> >>>> Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot >>>> >>>> We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils, >>>> and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use. >>>> >>>> Gabriel >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel >>>> <arlin(a)bridgecitybicyclecoop.com> wrote: >>>> > We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past >>>> with >>>> > proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again. >>>> > >>>> > We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at >>>> $1.00/cable >>>> > & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it >>>> hasn't >>>> > been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different >>>> clients >>>> > than our local shops. >>>> > >>>> > Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the >>>> > Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and >>>> > modified from there. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Arlin Schaffel >>>> > Bridge City Bicycle Co-op >>>> > http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com >>>> > facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/ >>>> > twitter.com/the_bcbc >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout >>>> you >>>> >> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to >>>> underprice >>>> >> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the >>>> rationale for >>>> >> doing so per se? >>>> >> >>>> >> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of >>>> ideas >>>> >> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam. >>>> >> >>>> >> Josh Bisker >>>> >> 914-500-9890 >>>> >> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op >>>> >> 596 Acres >>>> >> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus >>>> >> >>>> >> ____________________________________ >>>> >> >>>> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >>>> >> >>>> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>>> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bi >>>> kecollectives.org >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ____________________________________ >>>> > >>>> > The ThinkTank mailing List >>>> > >>>> > Unsubscribe from this list here: >>>> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bi >>>> kecollectives.org >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ____________________________________ >>>> >>>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >>>> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Monday-Wednesday, Saturday 10am-5pm >>> Thursday-Friday 10am-6pm >>> Sunday 11am-4pm >>> 541 E. 4th Street. >>> Reno, NV 89512 >>> 775-323-4488 <(775)%20323-4488> >>> >>> Donate via Paypal >>> <https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=vuvKXYxQM2VBR5M9BfV-SidWS6o5AjC5cqYqR4…> >>> | Follow us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/renobikeproject> | >>> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/renobikeproject/> | Twitter >>> <https://twitter.com/renobikeproject> >>> >>> Please let us know if you would like to unsubscribe to our email list. >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >>> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >>> >>> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Young <michael(a)westtownbikes.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 11:45:59 -0500 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > <SNIP> > > Used cables are fine to re-use as long as they are in good condition. > Cables from the rear can often move to the front and live a longer life. > > <SNIP> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ainsley Naylor <needleandthread(a)gmail.com> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:47:47 -0400 > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing? > @ Bike Pirates we have always sold cable assemblies (cable, housing, > ferrules/caps) as a unit, rather than having to figure our how much housing > each participant has used. Our price has been $5 for as long as I can > remember and applies to both brake and shift lines. > > Ainsley. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Michael Young <michael(a)westtownbikes.org> > wrote: > >> <SNIP> >> >> Used cables are fine to re-use as long as they are in good condition. >> Cables from the rear can often move to the front and live a longer life. >> >> <SNIP> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.o >> rg/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sue Prant <sue(a)communitycycles.org> > To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:25:26 -0600 > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Hiring an Education Coordinator at Community > Cycles, Boulder CO > > Education Coordinator Job Description > > Purpose: > > The Education Coordinator manages the Earn a Bike (EAB) program, > coordinates the Complete Mechanic Series (CMS), and conducts occasional > other workshops at and on behalf of Community Cycles. Reports to: Community > Cycles Sales and Service Manager > > Education/ Experience/ Specific Knowledge:1 + years bike mechanic > experience. 1+ years teaching experience. Excellent communication skills. > Excellent organization skills. Hours per week: 15-20 > > Responsibilities: EAB > > - > > Facilitate EAB program participants’ progress through the program by > resolving problems, responding to questions, answering all inquiries and > getting participants their bikes > - > > Coordinates with employees and volunteers working on web site and > Salesforce to make sure class times and descriptions are accurate. > - > > Enters participants into Salesforce when necessary > - > > Track TANF and other paperwork associated with EABers. > - > > Opens up EAB waiting list (when there is one) and notifies people on > list > - > > Continually review the EAB process to ensure it functions smoothly and > cost effectively while remaining relevant, engaging and worthwhile to > participants. > - > > Keep Community Cycles members, volunteers and staff informed about EAB > through the newsletter and staff meetings > - > > Distribute surveys and review participant feedback for improvements to > the process, workshop curriculums, materials and props. > - > > Keep the EAB and CMS program consistent with the Community Cycles > community service goals. > - > > Maintain order in the weekly teaching props bins > - > > Maintain a sufficient supply of new helmets for EAB graduates. > Coordinate delivery with Boulder Community Hospital. > - > > Continually review EAB reports in Salesforce to maintain accuracy. > > Responsibilities: CMS > > - > > Coordination of the CMS Series and Park Tool School > - > > Coordinate scheduling for class series and instructors > - > > Insure that all CMS props are ready at the beginning of each series > > Other Responsibilities > > - > > Coordinate dates for workshops and CMS with the Instructor Corps to > insure adequate coverage. > - > > Coordinate the delivery of Adult Maintenance 101 and Fix-a-Flat > workshops for UCAR, BVSD and Boulder County. > - > > Maintain the Education Station and insure handout bins are adequately > supplied. Insure handouts are current and relevant > - > > Attend monthly staff meetings and others as required. > - > > Provide the Community Cycles Manager, Executive Director and > Membership Director with monthly performance reports. > > Compensation/ Benefits: > > Hourly rate starting at $13 - $15 with a raise after 6 months. PTO after 6 > months. IRA match after 2 years. Flexible work environment and time-off. > > Send cover letter and resume to : manager(a)communitycycles.org. > > Subject line: Education Coordinator opening > > > > > -- > Sue Prant > Executive Director > Community Cycles > 2805 Wilderness Pl Suite 1000 > Boulder, CO 80301 > Phone: 303-564-9681 > e-mail: sue(a)communitycycles.org > www.CommunityCycles.org <http://www.communitycycles.org/> > > > Join the movement! > Become a Community Cycles member <http://communitycycles.org/member/> > > Subscribe to our monthly e-news! <http://communitycycles.org/> > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- > bikecollectives.org > > -- -- B!KE: The Peterborough Community Bike Shop 293 George Street North, Peterborough ON (705) 775-7227 communitybikeshop.org

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Hiring an Education Coordinator at Community Cycles, Boulder CO
by Sue Prant 06 Sep '17

06 Sep '17

Education Coordinator Job Description Purpose: The Education Coordinator manages the Earn a Bike (EAB) program, coordinates the Complete Mechanic Series (CMS), and conducts occasional other workshops at and on behalf of Community Cycles. Reports to: Community Cycles Sales and Service Manager Education/ Experience/ Specific Knowledge:1 + years bike mechanic experience. 1+ years teaching experience. Excellent communication skills. Excellent organization skills. Hours per week: 15-20 Responsibilities: EAB - Facilitate EAB program participants’ progress through the program by resolving problems, responding to questions, answering all inquiries and getting participants their bikes - Coordinates with employees and volunteers working on web site and Salesforce to make sure class times and descriptions are accurate. - Enters participants into Salesforce when necessary - Track TANF and other paperwork associated with EABers. - Opens up EAB waiting list (when there is one) and notifies people on list - Continually review the EAB process to ensure it functions smoothly and cost effectively while remaining relevant, engaging and worthwhile to participants. - Keep Community Cycles members, volunteers and staff informed about EAB through the newsletter and staff meetings - Distribute surveys and review participant feedback for improvements to the process, workshop curriculums, materials and props. - Keep the EAB and CMS program consistent with the Community Cycles community service goals. - Maintain order in the weekly teaching props bins - Maintain a sufficient supply of new helmets for EAB graduates. Coordinate delivery with Boulder Community Hospital. - Continually review EAB reports in Salesforce to maintain accuracy. Responsibilities: CMS - Coordination of the CMS Series and Park Tool School - Coordinate scheduling for class series and instructors - Insure that all CMS props are ready at the beginning of each series Other Responsibilities - Coordinate dates for workshops and CMS with the Instructor Corps to insure adequate coverage. - Coordinate the delivery of Adult Maintenance 101 and Fix-a-Flat workshops for UCAR, BVSD and Boulder County. - Maintain the Education Station and insure handout bins are adequately supplied. Insure handouts are current and relevant - Attend monthly staff meetings and others as required. - Provide the Community Cycles Manager, Executive Director and Membership Director with monthly performance reports. Compensation/ Benefits: Hourly rate starting at $13 - $15 with a raise after 6 months. PTO after 6 months. IRA match after 2 years. Flexible work environment and time-off. Send cover letter and resume to : manager(a)communitycycles.org. Subject line: Education Coordinator opening -- Sue Prant Executive Director Community Cycles 2805 Wilderness Pl Suite 1000 Boulder, CO 80301 Phone: 303-564-9681 e-mail: sue(a)communitycycles.org www.CommunityCycles.org <http://www.communitycycles.org/> Join the movement! Become a Community Cycles member <http://communitycycles.org/member/> Subscribe to our monthly e-news! <http://communitycycles.org/>

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HIRING Hub Bike Coop (mpls), HR, Marketing, Service Coord, Development,
by Eamon O'Hara 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

Hey y'all! We here at the Worker-Owned Hub Bike Coop (mpls) <http://www.thehubbikecoop.org/> are hiring for a couple of year-round bike shop positions (job descriptions attached): -Personnel Coordinator (Human Resources) -Development Coord (sorta E.D.) -Marketing Coordinator -Service Dept Coordinator We are a worker owned and operated bike shop with 3 locations in Minneapolis, MN. *Worker Owned. Democratically Run * No outside board of directors or investors make decisions that effect the lives of employees. We are an egalitarian workplace with no closed door meetings (except as required by labor laws). All workers have opportunities to vote on different aspects of the business, and have equal access to information *Supportive Space For All* We provide supportive space that is welcoming and respectful to workers of all genders and cultures. We consistently engage is antioppression trainings that work to dismantle our biases for the benefit of each other & customers. We host one of several Grease Rag <http://www.greaserag.org> Open Shop nights at our Oak Street location. interested folks can send resumes over to apply(a)thehubbikecoop.biz thanks! eamon O -- pronouns: he/him

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Volunteer Rights/Responsibiities
by Todd Spinner 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

Does anyone out there in Bicycle Co-op land have any good documents you can share on volunteer rights or Volunteer bill of rights? I remember seeing one floating around a few years ago but cannot seem to find it in my files. Thanks, Todd -- Todd Spinner The Bike Project of Urbana-Champaign

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Final Call for Interbike Passes!!
by Tiff Mueller 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

Greetings!! I wanted to send one last reminder for Interbike sign ups this year. Again, its a highly valuable experience that brings you face to face with our industry. Passes are free for non-profits and I would really like to help get as many cool folks out there as I can. Just let me know if there are any questions or concerns, but here is the sign up again: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ryv4e0wSR21-9LXoMRrLxjHbG6eafAzTmg4… THE DEADLINE IS SEPTEMBER 6th!!! NEXT WEDNESDAY! Hope the summer treated you all well and you're geared up for a great Fall!! Thanks again, -Tiff Mueller Bike Rescue

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by Andy Caine 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

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by Joey Wilkinson 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

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Volunteer Management Software - help guide and summary
by A Westphal 21 Aug '17

21 Aug '17

Hello everyone, Earlier in the summer, I inquired in this list about volunteer management systems. Since then, I researched your suggestions, as well as programs suggested by a previous post in the ThinkTank archives, and general best-of lists online. Below, you may see my notes about some of the top systems for my organization’s needs. Please remember that because these programs will continue to evolve, these recommendations should be reevaluated if you are revisiting this post in the archives. STEP 1: evaluate your organization Before we dive into the systems themselves, it’s important to think about what your organization really needs, and perhaps more importantly, if your organization has enough volunteer power to start up a system AND keep it running smoothly. You may have enough knowledge for the setup, but unless you have buy-in from your coordinators and your volunteers, the system probably won’t work the way you intended. STEP 2: evaluate your goals Do you want to track exact hours worked, or just count number of events worked by your volunteers? Do you want on-site sign-ins and sign-outs, or will your coordinator check back later to credit the volunteers for their participation? Do you need to track special info, such as ZIP codes, training course completion, etc etc, which might not be included in a software’s standard sign-up profile? Do you want to host the data on a single computer, or keep everything on the cloud? How many coordinator logins do you need? How many volunteer do you want to manage in the system? What decisions does your organization need to make, and how will better data and/or reporting be able to improve the quality of those decisions? STEP 3: review the top programs My list from June/July 2017 can be found below. STEP 4: do product demos Contact the sales reps from several companies, and spend 30-60min speaking to them about the product. Make sure to ask about all the qualifications you identified in Step #2; you could ask if you can send in your list of needs in advance, so they have more time to review what you’re looking for. Don’t be shy about asking very specific and lots of questions. STEP 5: make your selection No single system will do everything you want perfectly -- particularly if you have a limited (or no) budget. Create a scoring sheet to weigh your options, including around items like cost (don’t assume that you’ll stay at the free or cheap option for long), various features, and potential for scalability. STEP 6: pilot one solution Once you’ve decided on your best option, test it out for at least a month. (Most companies offer a free month of their premium product.) To keep things manageable, and avoid major disruption, test the new product with just your core volunteers (who will be willing to deal with some bumps, and give you honest feedback), or just a couple of events. STEP 7: embrace and evaluate After you’ve confirmed the program which will work best for you, move as much data and processes as possible over to the new system. This will take at least twice as long as you expect. As mentioned above, entering and maintaining data requires consistent effort and buy-in across your organization. My list of top programs (the list order is not an exact ranking) 1. Get Connected *aka* Community Connect by Galaxy Digital 1. This program is a very strong contender in this space, and seems to have a highly capable set of analytic tools. 2. We did a phone call with a sales rep, and used a sandbox site. We were interested, but the product does not fit our miniscule budget at this time (they charge $1,000/year for organizations with an operating budget of less than $50,000). 3. https://www.galaxydigital.com/volunteer-management/ 2. Timecounts 1. TimeCounts is comparable to Get Connected (above), but does not seem to include the same analytic tools. 2. We tested the free version for a few weeks and decided to pursue this option further. 3. https://timecounts.org/ 3. Volgistics Volunteer Management 1. The program seems simple, but may be powerful if you can invest time into it. Be careful to note if you’ll need any of their add-ons. 2. We tested their free trial and decided not to pursue it further. 3. https://www.volgistics.com/volunteer-management.htm 4. VolunteerHub 1. This is a highly capable program, but we did not pursue the product further than their informational video, due to lack of fit with our organization. 2. http://www.volunteerhub.com/ 5. Sumac 1. This program is more of a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) tool than a volunteer management system. For that reason, we decided not to pursue it after doing a phone call with a sales rep. 2. http://sumac.com/ 6. SalesForce 1. This software is one of the market leaders for all CRM tools (nonprofit and normal business operations). We did not consider using it because it is far too intense for our small-scale needs, but it may be a good fit for your organization, particularly if you have paid staff. There are also good pricing options available to nonprofits: 10 free licenses, plus ample community support. 2. BikeWalkWitcheta uses this system -- thanks for your feedback. 3. https://www.salesforce.com/ 7. CiviCRM 1. This program requires a fair bit of technical know-how for the setup, but it is also free and open-source, so you could mould it to your organization. 2. I’ve heard that Bikes Not Bombs in Boston uses this system. 3. https://civicrm.org/ 8. PowerBase 1. If you like CiviCRM, but you don’t have the know-how to set it up, try PowerBase! Their product is based on CiviCRM. 2. https://www.progressivetech.org/powerbase/ 9. FreeHub 1. A database of members and the services to which they have access, a sign-in system for use at the front desk of the shop, and a reporting tool for looking at shop use, membership status, etc. 2. This tool was developed by the bike collective community. Information on this and other programs can be located on the bike collectives wiki. 3. http://freehub.bikekitchen.org/ 10. SignUp.com 1. We tested this system, and it is fine as a free program, but we wanted more rigorous analytical capabilities which are only included in the expensive premium package. 2. Thanks to LocalMotion in Burlington, Vermont, for the suggestion. 11. eCoordinator by Samaritan Technologies 1. We did not investigate the specifics features offered with this program because the price point was far too high for us. 2. https://samaritan.com/ 12. Volunteer Impact by Better Impact 1. http://www.betterimpact.com/volunteer-software/ 13. VolunteerLocal 1. www.volunteerlocal.com 14. VolunteerMark 1. https://www.volunteermark.com/ Please note that this list focuses mainly on volunteer management systems. You may also consider looking in other categories to more closely align with your needs, including advocacy/action, fundraising, contact management (CRM), etc. Also note that different systems exist for point-of-sale consoles and inventory processing, so you may also consider investigating those programs if you have a large shop with lots of sales. Thank you for being such a great group. I hope this information is useful to you. Best wishes from Ann Arbor, MI Andrew Westphal Common Cycle board member commoncycle.org

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Fwd: Roll out what you learned in training to your team!
by Angel York 21 Aug '17

21 Aug '17

I recently went to a workshop on non-profit management, "managing to change the world". If anyone is interested, I can set this email series to auto-forward to your email address for the next few months. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: The Management Center <admin(a)managementcenter.org> Date: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:05 AM Subject: Roll out what you learned in training to your team! To: aniola(a)gmail.com Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. <http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=d14f6e75581b6d76530f3d084&id=264a780730…> Dear Friend, Now that you’re back at work after our Managing to Change The World training course, you might be wondering how you’re ever going to translate everything you learned to your team. We want to make that easy for you, so we’ve put together an email (it's below!) that you can tweak and send out to your team to explain the most important concepts from the course, and let them know how they can help you implement some new practices – like MOCHA, goals, check-ins, and debriefing meetings. The best part is you just have to send the email, and your staff will do all the rest! Well, some of it. (Don’t forget to customize the areas below that we’ve marked in all caps!) Also, for the next 12 weeks, we’re going to send you additional prompts and concrete “next steps.” (However, if you don’t want to receive these 12 emails, you can opt out here <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d14f6e75581b6d765…> .) SUBJECT: Big changes afoot… Dear Team: Yesterday I attended the “Managing to Change the World” training, and I came out with a lot of great new tools and ideas, but I’ll need your help to implement everything. This email outlines some of the new approaches I’d like to implement, and explains what that means for you, in terms of new ways to approach, manage, and evaluate your work. I want to give you each big goals, and let each of you have ownership on how you’ll achieve those goals. At the end, there’s a list of ACTION ITEMS for everyone. I know this is a lot of information, but I promise that these tools will help you manage your own work better, and will help you get what you need from me (and others) to get things done. *CHECK-INS* I’d like you each to schedule a one-hour meeting with me (to occur before DATE). Please send me an agenda for this the day before our meeting so I have time to reflect on it as well. Here’s a sample agenda <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d14f6e75581b6d765…> to use as a template. We’ll have these check-ins weekly (please be in charge of ensuring that that happens!). This week, we’ll review the other action items listed in this email, as well as cover the other topics listed in the template. *MOCHA* MOCHA may sound like a delicious but pointless acronym, but it’s a way for everyone to be totally clear on his or her role within projects. The idea is that when there are a bunch of people involved in a project but a lack of clear roles, things can languish. But when roles are really clear, it’s easier to determine who’s responsible for driving things forward, what the next steps should be, who you need to get approvals from, and who you can turn to for help. And it’s super quick: *M: Manager*. This is the person managing the project. She guides the work and assigns responsibility. (This will often be me, but not always.) *O: Owner.* This is the person who truly owns the project, and is responsible for its success. *C: Consulted*. These are people who should be asked for input or need to be bought into the project. *H: Helper.* Helpers can help you out with some of the work. They may even be mini-owners of a small segment of the project. *A: Approver.* Approvers need to sign off on the work (or decisions about the work) before it’s final. So, as an example: [INSERT THE MOCHA YOU CREATED DURING TRAINING, AND EXPLAIN IT A BIT.] To help us get used to using this terminology, would you write a (very short) MOCHA describing a project that you are currently the owner of, including the roles you and others play in this project? We’ll discuss this MOCHA during our first check-in meeting and use it as a way to get us all familiar with this framework so that we can use it going forward. *REPEAT-BACKS* Possibly the weirdest thing I’ll ask you all to do (often) is called the Repeat-Back. It’s exactly what it sounds like it is: after we discuss what success looks like for a project, and we’ve agreed on the next steps, I’ll ask you to just repeat everything back to me to make sure we’re on the same page. This may be awkward at first, but I promise that if we try it for a few weeks, it will help us spot areas where I haven’t been clear or we’re on different pages or we just need to clarify something. (Feel free to ask me for a repeat-back too! If you need something from me to advance your work, this will help us make sure we’re on the same page about what I’m getting it you and when.) *THE DEBRIEF* When a big project or event is finally done, I know as well as anyone that it’s tempting to immediately move on to the next one and leave the past in a metaphorical dust cloud. But I’d love us to do a better job of talking about recently completed work and reflect on what went well, what could have gone better, and what lessons we can take away for the future. So, please schedule a 15-minute meeting with me to debrief on a recently completed project – or add it in the agenda for our next check-in. I’m really excited about having more structured reflection on how our work is going – and especially on things that have gone really well that I might not know about from the outside. *GOALS* I’d like to us to have more clarity around our goals for this year, individually and as a team – in order to get aligned about where we will (and won’t) put our energy and what concrete markers we’ll use to measure success. Specifically, I’d like us to all to create *SMART goals *that we’ll use to drive our work*. *Here’s a quick rundown of what “SMART” stands for: *S: Strategic*. Does the goal reflect an important dimension of what we seek to accomplish? *M: Measurable*. How will you know when you’ve accomplished the goal? This doesn’t need to be a bunch of numbers, but should be a standard by which reasonable people can agree on whether the goals has been met. *A: Ambitious*. Is the goal challenging enough that achieving it would mean significant progress? *R: Realistic*. Is this something we really can do? Do we have a plan to achieve it and know what it will take in terms of resources and time? *T: Time-Bound.* Is there a clear deadline? OPTIONAL ADDITION: For instance, one goal I wrote for myself during the training is [INSERT EXAMPLE GOAL]. To get the ball rolling on this, I’d like you to select one of your goals for this year and evaluate it using the SMART model. Does the goal, as you understand it, meet all of those specifications? If not, can you reframe it so it does (and, in doing so, do you feel like it’s a stronger goal)? By [DATE], please send me your musings on the goal you’ve examined or raise it with me one-on-one. This need not be formal; something in the body of an email is fine. If you get stuck … well, then, raise that with me that too! *ACTION ITEMS FOR EVERYONE* To sum up, here’s what I’d like you to do: 1. Schedule a check-in meeting with me by DATE and send me an agenda for check-in the day before the meeting. 2. Use MOCHA to assign roles to a project YOU own (we’ll review at the check-in meeting). 3. Schedule a debriefing meeting for a current project or include it on your agenda for our next check-in. 4. SMART-ify at least one goal and email to me by DATE. Thank you in advance for spending some time on these new ideas with me, and absolutely feel free to ask me any questions you have about any of this! [SIGNED] Best, The Management Center You are receiving this email because you signed up for our newsletter list through our website (www.managementcenter.org), a Management Center training, or a book order. <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=d14f6e75581b6d765…> Forward <http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=d14f6e75581b6d76530f3d084&id=264…> this email to a friend | Update your profile <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage1.com/profile?u=d14f6e75581b6d76530f…> Unsubscribe <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=d14f6e75581b6d765…> aniola(a)gmail.com from this list. Our mailing address is: The Management Center 1710 Rhode Island Ave. NW Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20036 Add us to your address book <http://managementcenter.us1.list-manage.com/vcard?u=d14f6e75581b6d76530f3d0…> Copyright (C) 2017 The Management Center All rights reserved.

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Bike!Bike! workshop on local coalition building
by Aida Mas Baghaie 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Hello Think Tank! On behalf of the AMS Bike Co-op / Bike Kitchen in Vancouver I’m wondering if anyone planning on attending Bike!Bike! this year has interest in co-facilitating a workshop on coalition building. This workshop may be of interest to folks from cities or regions with multiple community bike shops looking to form coalitions (or already have) to help manage resources between shops. We will be showing off our shiny new Vancouver Community Bike Shop Network and brainstorming ways to create similar groups where needed and appropriate, and troubleshooting some of the finer details. Please e-mail me if you are interested in co-facilitating and if it’s a good fit we can make this workshop even more sweet! Looking forward to seeing y'all at Bike!Bike! <3 aida

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