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Re: [TheThinkTank] Contents Contents ofThethinktank Digest, Vol 145, Issue 13
by Robert Rands 03 Nov '18

03 Nov '18

One should be mindful that there is Right~Libertarianism (Individualist Anarchism) & Left~Libertarianism (Libertarian Socialism). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualist_anarchism ~Robert R. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/25/18, globalguy <globalguy(a)gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Contents ofThethinktank Digest, Vol 145, Issue 13 To: cheerfulharmony(a)yahoo.com, "The Think Tank" <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Date: Thursday, October 25, 2018, 6:47 PM And when you read it without those two words, it sounds positively Libertarian. I didn't realize there were so many "Ayn" Randians at The Think Tank. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 7:00 PM Robert Rands <cheerfulharmony(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Take out "white supremacy" and look at it as a critique of power structures. Otherwise, I think it is a divisive paper that stokes animosity and will not lead to any solutions other than a power struggle of pendulum swings & unenlightened division. ~Robert Rands SoPo Bike Coöp -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 10/24/18, <thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: Subject: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 145, Issue 13 To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2018, 4:04 PM Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: white supremacy culture (Kieran O'Neill) 2. Re: white supremacy culture (Judith Feist) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:16:10 -0700 From: "Kieran O'Neill" <oneillkza(a)gmail.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: judith(a)backalleybikes.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white supremacy culture Message-ID: <CAMKyGt+bDmX=CFcFQKOwgQ=+F4VfVYAA3cO=u6sU==1OR3JRRQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Just as a follow-up to this thread, I just ran across the same material incorporated into a larger workshop: https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-work… I believe it's by some of the same authors, and may be a more updated version. This version definitely expands on and contextualises the excerpt which Angel posted, and is well worth the read. On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05, Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> wrote: > > All, > > Rereading over this thread, this really stood out to me: > > > They are not measuring the right things, but they don?t know it because > > they are not valuing subjective experiences. Do you feel me? > > Yeah, I definitely feel you. > > Thanks. > > cyclista Nicholas > > > > On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith Feist wrote: > > Thanks for your input, Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for > > sure. > > > > Ride on, > > > > Judith C Feist > > Co Director, the Hub at Back Alley > > > > > > *"*Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis > > > > "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria > > Steinem > > > > I think [the bicycle] has done more to emancipate women than anything > > else > > in the world...It gives a woman a feeling of freedom and > > self-reliance.~Susan B. Anthony > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:06:12 -0400 From: Judith Feist <judith(a)backalleybikes.org> To: oneillkza(a)gmail.com Cc: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white supremacy culture Message-ID: <CABQKaWtL_6N1YGbWqpi0k=sritMxuiBNhNqq5kEbyQodYB49Dg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks for sharing, Kieran. (: On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:16 PM Kieran O'Neill <oneillkza(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just as a follow-up to this thread, I just ran across the same > material incorporated into a larger workshop: > > > https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-work… > > I believe it's by some of the same authors, and may be a more updated > version. This version definitely expands on and contextualises the > excerpt which Angel posted, and is well worth the read. > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05, Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > wrote: > > > > All, > > > > Rereading over this thread, this really stood out to me: > > > > > They are not measuring the right things, but they don?t know it because > > > they are not valuing subjective experiences. Do you feel me? > > > > Yeah, I definitely feel you. > > > > Thanks. > > > > cyclista Nicholas > > > > > > > > On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith Feist wrote: > > > Thanks for your input, Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for > > > sure. > > > > > > Ride on, > > > > > > Judith C Feist > > > Co Director, the Hub at Back Alley > > > > > > > > > *"*Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis > > > > > > "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria > > > Steinem > > > > > > I think [the bicycle] has done more to emancipate women than anything > > > else > > > in the world...It gives a woman a feeling of freedom and > > > self-reliance.~Susan B. Anthony > > > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > > -- Judith C Feist Co Director, the Hub at Back Alley *"*Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria Steinem I think [the bicycle] has done more to emancipate women than anything else in the world...It gives a woman a feeling of freedom and self-reliance.~Susan B. Anthony -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Volunteer rostering systems
by Dennis Wollersheim 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

Hi All I'm Dennis, from the Bike Shed in Melbourne Australia. It is springtime down here, and we are getting an influx of new volunteers. Do any of you have systems to roster on volunteers, so you know who will show up on a day? What do you use? Thanks Dennis -- -- ------------------------------------------- Dennis Wollersheim -------------------------------------------

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white supremacy culture
by Angel York 29 Oct '18

29 Oct '18

old but good

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Contents ofThethinktank Digest, Vol 145, Issue 13
by Robert Rands 25 Oct '18

25 Oct '18

Take out "white supremacy" and look at it as a critique of power structures. Otherwise, I think it is a divisive paper that stokes animosity and will not lead to any solutions other than a power struggle of pendulum swings & unenlightened division. ~Robert Rands SoPo Bike Coöp -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 10/24/18, <thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: Subject: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 145, Issue 13 To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2018, 4:04 PM Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: white supremacy culture (Kieran O'Neill) 2. Re: white supremacy culture (Judith Feist) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:16:10 -0700 From: "Kieran O'Neill" <oneillkza(a)gmail.com> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: judith(a)backalleybikes.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white supremacy culture Message-ID: <CAMKyGt+bDmX=CFcFQKOwgQ=+F4VfVYAA3cO=u6sU==1OR3JRRQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Just as a follow-up to this thread, I just ran across the same material incorporated into a larger workshop: https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-work… I believe it's by some of the same authors, and may be a more updated version. This version definitely expands on and contextualises the excerpt which Angel posted, and is well worth the read. On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05, Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> wrote: > > All, > > Rereading over this thread, this really stood out to me: > > > They are not measuring the right things, but they don?t know it because > > they are not valuing subjective experiences. Do you feel me? > > Yeah, I definitely feel you. > > Thanks. > > cyclista Nicholas > > > > On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith Feist wrote: > > Thanks for your input, Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for > > sure. > > > > Ride on, > > > > Judith C Feist > > Co Director, the Hub at Back Alley > > > > > > *"*Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis > > > > "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria > > Steinem > > > > I think [the bicycle] has done more to emancipate women than anything > > else > > in the world...It gives a woman a feeling of freedom and > > self-reliance.~Susan B. Anthony > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:06:12 -0400 From: Judith Feist <judith(a)backalleybikes.org> To: oneillkza(a)gmail.com Cc: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white supremacy culture Message-ID: <CABQKaWtL_6N1YGbWqpi0k=sritMxuiBNhNqq5kEbyQodYB49Dg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks for sharing, Kieran. (: On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:16 PM Kieran O'Neill <oneillkza(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just as a follow-up to this thread, I just ran across the same > material incorporated into a larger workshop: > > > https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-work… > > I believe it's by some of the same authors, and may be a more updated > version. This version definitely expands on and contextualises the > excerpt which Angel posted, and is well worth the read. > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05, Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > wrote: > > > > All, > > > > Rereading over this thread, this really stood out to me: > > > > > They are not measuring the right things, but they don?t know it because > > > they are not valuing subjective experiences. Do you feel me? > > > > Yeah, I definitely feel you. > > > > Thanks. > > > > cyclista Nicholas > > > > > > > > On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith Feist wrote: > > > Thanks for your input, Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for > > > sure. > > > > > > Ride on, > > > > > > Judith C Feist > > > Co Director, the Hub at Back Alley > > > > > > > > > *"*Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis > > > > > > "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria > > > Steinem > > > > > > I think [the bicycle] has done more to emancipate women than anything > > > else > > > in the world...It gives a woman a feeling of freedom and > > > self-reliance.~Susan B. Anthony > > > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > > -- Judith C Feist Co Director, the Hub at Back Alley *"*Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria Steinem I think [the bicycle] has done more to emancipate women than anything else in the world...It gives a woman a feeling of freedom and self-reliance.~Susan B. Anthony -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Untokening Detroit: Co-Create Mobility Justice
by Heather Nugen 20 Oct '18

20 Oct '18

*To co-create a rust-free future, we’re bringing The Untokening <http://untokening.org> to the Motor City!* Untokening Detroit will showcase struggles and successes in mobility advocacy, implementation, and engagement we’re seeing as we shift from Rust Belt to Legacy Cities. Holding space for people with disabilities and seniors while addressing transportation-related development in the local context of Detroit and the Rust Belt region, *our day-long event will create a space to focus on the personal and interpersonal work it takes to be Black, Indigenous, People of Color (BIPOC) in mobility advocacy, planning, and policy spaces.* While we will center ourselves within local community and elevate the expertise of mobility leaders in Detroit, we invite folks from other regions and fields to join us in network building, storytelling and discussion. To join us, apply here <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeInT0HEQ-CyyW8sKar0A9IjPq32uG4PAM…> . -- Heather Nugen 313-848-2102 Cyclonauts <https://cyclonautsdetroit.wordpress.com/> Chief Navigation Officer Untokening Detroit <http://www.untokening.org/> Co-Organizer University of Detroit Mercy, Class of 2019 Master of Community Development <http://architecture.udmercy.edu/programs/mcd>

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Migration and bikes
by Tigre Bici 19 Oct '18

19 Oct '18

Hello as some of you might know, today we have a break through of the Caravana Migrante on our south border. People are running away from their countries to seek asylum and/or reach the US looking for a better life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSdaK09dwes https://qsnoticias.mx/caravana-migrante-entra-a-mexico/ http://www.ejecentral.com.mx/mexico-buscaria-disolver-la-caravana-migrante-… we have no idea how we and bikes can help them on they journey or they stay in Mexico. Any ideas? tips? known cases? Thanks R.

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LA Is the Worst Cycling City in the United States
by Gabriel Trainer 18 Oct '18

18 Oct '18

This article hit me especially hard after experiencing LA cycling at Bike!Bike! this year: https://www.bicycling.com/culture/a23566413/los-angeles-is-the-worst-bike-c… I was impressed with Ciclavia but after spending the last next week with my friend in West LA (traveling soley by car) I saw how the city is designed completely around cars. The legislative battles in the article are particularly discouraging. What do others think about how LA is doing as a bike city? Gabriel (from Bike Farm in Portland, OR)

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Softball Question: What's in Your Mobile/Pop-up Kit?
by Josh Bisker 16 Oct '18

16 Oct '18

What's your list of things to bring to a pop-up repair event? Which tools, ancillary supplies, etceteras do you make sure to have? JoshJoshJosh Josh Bisker 914-500-9890 New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/>

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Santa Barbara Bici Centro is Hiring a Program Manager
by Christine Bourgeois 16 Oct '18

16 Oct '18

Hi all, Wanna work for the bikiest of the amazing orgs in Santa Barbara working to make our roads more accessible and our air more breathable? This could be your perfect opportunity! Bici Centro Santa Barbara is hiring a program manager. If bikes and people, inventory management and best practices, leading and supporting volunteers and staff is your gig, apply for this sweet position. If you know anyone who fits that description, send him or her our way. More on the position HERE <http://www.sbbike.org/work_for_us> or PDF file attached. Please send your resume to Ellen: ellen(a)sbbike.org We will begin to review appropriate candidates on 11/1/18 Cheers, -- Christine Bourgeois *Education Director, LCI #2255* Santa Barbara Bicycle Coalition p: 805.845.8955 m: 805.699.6301 w: sbbike.org e: edu(a)sbbike.org <https://www.facebook.com/sbbikes/> <https://www.instagram.com/sbbike.s/>

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Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 145, Issue 6
by Robert Rands 14 Oct '18

14 Oct '18

I think it is a confused document. First, there has to be a balance between groups & individuals. Second, there does need to be standards. Standards which can be challenged. Third, while it is true that standards of values can cause troubles in that they can become dogmatic, there still needs to standards of values within a framework that can allow adjustment. Fourth, there does have to be elements of "management". A shop cannot be run successful run over any period of time without rules & management. Fifth, I am not sure it is "white culture" that is designating certain ways of thinking, as people of color are involved in that construction & its continuation, while there are whites who are for moving onto a new system. Individuals need power within organizations, there needs to be a framework in which to work. There cannot be such as, "everyone is allowed~ except 'vehicular cyclists' & 'whites'". That is only perpetuating a power structure that is supposedly being rejected. It is time to move on from these restrictive views that have failed & will continue to fail. Empowerment of the individual & individual dignity cannot be graced unto people from an organization, it can be fostered, encouraged, yes, yet it must, ultimately, come from someone's own core. This core is not "white" or any other particular color. To say that is to naturally limit responses, created resistance that would not be there, otherwise, & strains the tenets of any new concept of existence. Arguments made against any present structures that exist, which one would like to be different, must be much more definably aimed at & not generalized into a general "us versus them". Cultures are not monolithic, which is part of the point. To assign a type of thinking or argument to a race is racist. Again, fighting against the presumable change pushed for. To over emphasize the power of groups over the individual will cause resistance as many individuals want to be free from such authoritarian concepts. As well as those who over emphasize the power of the individual without any acknowledgement of any 'collective' leads to isolation, allows oppression in other forms &, too, is a failed path to follow. Individual empowerment & dignity has something to do with culture & heritage, yet, is still, at heart, a personal matter. Values are internal, internally taken, can be influenced from without, but, also, internally generated. However, people, in their souls know what is right & wrong. To not say so is a cop out to shift responsibility from oneself to "the state", allowing bad behaviour to be excused, leading into a cycle of dysfunction & failure. Culture, thought, & action cannot be changed positively unless these factors are considered. ~Robert Rands (Blackcatprowl) -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 10/13/18, <thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote: Subject: Thethinktank Digest, Vol 145, Issue 6 To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Date: Saturday, October 13, 2018, 4:04 PM Send Thethinktank mailing list submissions to thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thethinktank-request(a)lists.bikecollectives.org You can reach the person managing the list at thethinktank-owner(a)lists.bikecollectives.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Thethinktank digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: white supremacy culture (Cyclista Nicholas) 2. Re: white supremacy culture (Cyclista Nicholas) 3. Re: white supremacy culture (Judith Feist) 4. Re: white supremacy culture (Cyclista Nicholas) 5. Re: Volunteer Question (Cyclista Nicholas) 6. Re: Softball Question: What's in Your Mobile/Pop-up Kit? (Cyclista Nicholas) 7. Re: Softball Question: What's in Your Mobile/Pop-up Kit? (Cyclista Nicholas) 8. Re: Softball Question: What's in Your Mobile/Pop-up Kit? (Sunny Nestler) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:15:07 +0000 From: Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org>, Matthew McMunn <matthew(a)therecyclery.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white supremacy culture Message-ID: <7879c869f2c76f8c4bc35b793688a8fc(a)inventati.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Matthew, I think those observations are on target, and that core of authenticity is why I called for a redraft. A document that is meant to change and open minds shouldn't instead confuse them, require translation, and harbor significant dangers with misinterpretation. Sounds like you're progressing on that redraft :) I'd suggest consulting with Angel and Judith during the process though. cyclista Nicholas On 2018-10-12 14:26, Matthew McMunn wrote: > Nicholas and All, > I get why the title and headings might cause you to say so, but upon > reading the article I think you are way off. I may have not read it > were it > not for your objection, so I sincerely thank you for writing to the > group. > > I find the article very helpful. I see these many of these cultural > dynamics play out at our Chicago community shop. If we want to be > anti-racist, we have to be better about sharing power. My thoughts on > your > response are below. > Best, > -Matthew from The Recyclery > > The document is not describing ?white problems.? The intro says as > much. It > is describing elements in ?White supremacy culture.? I admit, that it?s > was > confusing for me at first. As I read the list I came to see that the > ?culture? the article is describing, is a grouping of practices, > attitudes, > and beliefs that tend to uphold power dynamics that exclude people of > color. This culture works against racial justice. > > The ?perfectionism? and ?objectivity? described might be more clearly > named as ?so called perfectionism? and ?so called objectivity.? With > ?perfectionism,? it is not describing being careful to get it right. > Instead it is a warning about being overly critical of others work and > neglecting to give praise and not being able to see to take advantage > of > their work. With ?objectivity? it is not an indictment of the > scientific > method. Instead, it is sceptical of those who hold ?objectivity? as > something they alone possess. Sometimes people and organizations don?t > seek > out subjective feedback. They become unresponsive and deaf to the > important > expressions of their stakeholders. They are not measuring the right > things, > but they don?t know it because they are not valuing subjective > experiences. > Do you feel me? > -Matthew > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:24 PM Cyclista Nicholas > <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > wrote: > >> That document points out a lot of distinct problems that are important >> to consider. However, with a few exceptions, it doesn't ground itself >> in >> examples of *how or why these are specifically white problems*. >> >> Additionally it: >> >> -demonizes some utilitarian goals, such as perfectionism >> -demonizes goals that are crucial to wisdom, such as objectivity (not >> to >> suggest subjectivity is inherently detrimental to that process) >> -attaches debatable characteristics and behaviors to well-known words >> -demonizes goals that are crucial for struggling nonprofit >> organizations, such as a sense of urgency >> -contradicts itself by criticizing lack of transparency in decision >> and >> rule making while also criticizing documentation >> -sets up a condition wherein one can be accused of white supremacy by >> defending, say, perfectionism or objectivity >> >> Many of the issues presented in the document are clearly important >> ones >> we all face, and the gist is worth meditating on. The document is, >> however, an "oldie"... in that it needs several redrafts. >> >> One might even say... urgently. >> >> Apologies in advance to everyone (including Angel) for any flame war >> this might erupt. >> >> cyclista Nicholas >> >> >> On 2018-10-10 15:25, Angel York wrote: >> > old but good >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > >> > The ThinkTank mailing List >> > >> > Unsubscribe from this list here: >> > >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> -- > Matthew McMunn > -Volunteer & Outreach Coordinator- > (he/him/his) > > http://therecyclery.org/ > Facebook @TheRecyclery > Instagram @TheRecyclery > > Program Hours: > Bike Sales: Saturday 10am-noon > Open Shop: Tuesday 7pm-9pm, Thursday 7pm-9pm, Saturday 1-5pm > Youth Open Shop Monday: 4-6pm > Volunteer Hours: Tuesday: 12-5pm, Friday: 5-8pm > Spanish Open Shop 1st Mondays 7pm-9pm > W.T.F. (Women, Trans, Femme) Night 4th Sundays 6pm-9pm > Volunteer Orientation 2nd and 4th Thursdays 6pm > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:15:07 +0000 From: Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org>, Matthew McMunn <matthew(a)therecyclery.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white supremacy culture Message-ID: <7879c869f2c76f8c4bc35b793688a8fc(a)inventati.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Matthew, I think those observations are on target, and that core of authenticity is why I called for a redraft. A document that is meant to change and open minds shouldn't instead confuse them, require translation, and harbor significant dangers with misinterpretation. Sounds like you're progressing on that redraft :) I'd suggest consulting with Angel and Judith during the process though. cyclista Nicholas On 2018-10-12 14:26, Matthew McMunn wrote: > Nicholas and All, > I get why the title and headings might cause you to say so, but upon > reading the article I think you are way off. I may have not read it > were it > not for your objection, so I sincerely thank you for writing to the > group. > > I find the article very helpful. I see these many of these cultural > dynamics play out at our Chicago community shop. If we want to be > anti-racist, we have to be better about sharing power. My thoughts on > your > response are below. > Best, > -Matthew from The Recyclery > > The document is not describing ?white problems.? The intro says as > much. It > is describing elements in ?White supremacy culture.? I admit, that it?s > was > confusing for me at first. As I read the list I came to see that the > ?culture? the article is describing, is a grouping of practices, > attitudes, > and beliefs that tend to uphold power dynamics that exclude people of > color. This culture works against racial justice. > > The ?perfectionism? and ?objectivity? described might be more clearly > named as ?so called perfectionism? and ?so called objectivity.? With > ?perfectionism,? it is not describing being careful to get it right. > Instead it is a warning about being overly critical of others work and > neglecting to give praise and not being able to see to take advantage > of > their work. With ?objectivity? it is not an indictment of the > scientific > method. Instead, it is sceptical of those who hold ?objectivity? as > something they alone possess. Sometimes people and organizations don?t > seek > out subjective feedback. They become unresponsive and deaf to the > important > expressions of their stakeholders. They are not measuring the right > things, > but they don?t know it because they are not valuing subjective > experiences. > Do you feel me? > -Matthew > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:24 PM Cyclista Nicholas > <cyclista(a)inventati.org> > wrote: > >> That document points out a lot of distinct problems that are important >> to consider. However, with a few exceptions, it doesn't ground itself >> in >> examples of *how or why these are specifically white problems*. >> >> Additionally it: >> >> -demonizes some utilitarian goals, such as perfectionism >> -demonizes goals that are crucial to wisdom, such as objectivity (not >> to >> suggest subjectivity is inherently detrimental to that process) >> -attaches debatable characteristics and behaviors to well-known words >> -demonizes goals that are crucial for struggling nonprofit >> organizations, such as a sense of urgency >> -contradicts itself by criticizing lack of transparency in decision >> and >> rule making while also criticizing documentation >> -sets up a condition wherein one can be accused of white supremacy by >> defending, say, perfectionism or objectivity >> >> Many of the issues presented in the document are clearly important >> ones >> we all face, and the gist is worth meditating on. The document is, >> however, an "oldie"... in that it needs several redrafts. >> >> One might even say... urgently. >> >> Apologies in advance to everyone (including Angel) for any flame war >> this might erupt. >> >> cyclista Nicholas >> >> >> On 2018-10-10 15:25, Angel York wrote: >> > old but good >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > >> > The ThinkTank mailing List >> > >> > Unsubscribe from this list here: >> > >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> -- > Matthew McMunn > -Volunteer & Outreach Coordinator- > (he/him/his) > > http://therecyclery.org/ > Facebook @TheRecyclery > Instagram @TheRecyclery > > Program Hours: > Bike Sales: Saturday 10am-noon > Open Shop: Tuesday 7pm-9pm, Thursday 7pm-9pm, Saturday 1-5pm > Youth Open Shop Monday: 4-6pm > Volunteer Hours: Tuesday: 12-5pm, Friday: 5-8pm > Spanish Open Shop 1st Mondays 7pm-9pm > W.T.F. (Women, Trans, Femme) Night 4th Sundays 6pm-9pm > Volunteer Orientation 2nd and 4th Thursdays 6pm > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:38:39 -0400 From: Judith Feist <judith(a)backalleybikes.org> To: thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white supremacy culture Message-ID: <CABQKaWtzpddt3_Setvm8_PMm_Mi2u1m6qhqQUDfz==1mjv3jVQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks for your input, Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for sure. Ride on, Judith C Feist Co Director, the Hub at Back Alley *"*Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria Steinem I think [the bicycle] has done more to emancipate women than anything else in the world...It gives a woman a feeling of freedom and self-reliance.~Susan B. Anthony -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bikecollectives.org/pipermail/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org…> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 23:05:28 +0000 From: Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: Judith Feist <judith(a)backalleybikes.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white supremacy culture Message-ID: <1e3479a3819d9ca4dedae8b780316c5b(a)inventati.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed All, Rereading over this thread, this really stood out to me: > They are not measuring the right things, but they don?t know it because > they are not valuing subjective experiences. Do you feel me? Yeah, I definitely feel you. Thanks. cyclista Nicholas On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith Feist wrote: > Thanks for your input, Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for > sure. > > Ride on, > > Judith C Feist > Co Director, the Hub at Back Alley > > > *"*Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis > > "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria > Steinem > > I think [the bicycle] has done more to emancipate women than anything > else > in the world...It gives a woman a feeling of freedom and > self-reliance.~Susan B. Anthony > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 23:51:34 +0000 From: Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: Edward Kirkwood <kirkwoodea(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Volunteer Question Message-ID: <f6105d56c309dc58d8d4c6b001558f47(a)inventati.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Broke Spoke Folk, We have a similar configuration as you do, except our hours are of course different, we don't charge anything for stand time, we regard every participant in open shop as a sort of volunteer-in-waiting, and we don't service bikes for people unless it's warranty service on a bike they bought from us. Our shop is heavily skillshare/mutual aid oriented. Our volunteer nights are pretty much invitation only. I say pretty much because we do post advertisements for it from time on Facebook (eww), but there we specify that we need trained mechanics or at least people with some mechanical experience. If we're doing construction or such, we'll advertise that we need people with experience with those kinds of tools. Generally when we feel someone is coming up to speed in terms of skills during normal open shop time, we tell them about volunteer night (sometimes called Monday Night Work Party) and ask them to show up; by making it invitation only, we can also do a bit of screening at these times for gender and cultural balance. If we're severely white-dude-heavy at a given time, we may refrain from invites until someone capable and not a white dude presents themselves. This is not because white dudes suck, it's to keep the social chemistry of the shop more representative of the city demographics. Our mission is to use cycling, community, and knowledge of bicycle mechanics to empower all people, but explicitly has a mandate to reach out to, include, and ultimately in part comprise ourselves of communities of color and marginalized/threatened people in general. We are explicitly working to dismantle patriarchy. Volunteers are also welcome during open shop, many of the people helping other people on any given night are volunteers. We also often have people sorting parts and whatnot during open shop. As long as it doesn't get in the way, sometimes people even do things like mow the lawn or cut back vines. Since open shop is not invitation only, open shop is often when we get unskilled volunteers that just want to do small or simple things. Open shop nights are also great times for volunteer training; people who want to learn something typically don't have to stand around long before some fundamental process like truing a wheel or repacking a bottom bracket is getting taught to a participant. The volunteer can sit in and learn at the same time as the participant. The line between participant and volunteer is very thin; basically it comes down to whether you're working on your own bike or not. We get totally random turnout with these methods. Some volunteer nights, we have five dedicated people tasking it up, other nights it's just staff (often literally just me), but it still really is useful because work can be done without distraction. Some open shop days we have several volunteers, others we have none and it's just staff. Full disclosure: we are also not a volunteer-run shop. We have dedicated paid staff, volunteers are auxiliary. cyclista Nicholas Director, Recycle Ithaca's Bicycles On 2018-10-09 15:05, Edward Kirkwood wrote: > I volunteer at Broke Spoke Community Bike Shop here in Lexington, KY. > We are currently a 100% volunteer run community bike shop that is open > the following hours: Wednesday 6-9 pm Volunteer Only Night, Thursday > 6-9 pm Open Shift and Sunday 1-5 pm Open Shift. To clarify, our > Volunteer Night is for volunteers to come in and work on bikes that > have been donated to us along with other tasks such as parts sorting. > We do not offer sales or service to the public on Wednesdays. Open > shifts are open to the public for individuals to come in rent our > workstands and do work on their own bikes and shop for bikes and/or > parts. Open shifts are staffed by a manager and trained volunteer > mechanics. Volunteer Nights are staffed with a manager and 1-2 long > term volunteers along with an unlimited number of volunteers that > range from complete novices to regular volunteers. > My questions for the ThinkTank is regarding our Volunteer Night, if > you have a similar volunteer-only night: (1) Do you limit the number > of volunteers? and if so (2) How do you implement this limitation? > The reason for my questions is that sometime we have more volunteers > than we can find quality tasks for them to do. It also limits the > amount of in-shift training that we can provide to each volunteer. In > addition, space and tools become a limitation.? > Allen KirkwoodBroke Spoke Community Bike Shop > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 00:10:52 +0000 From: Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: Sunny Nestler <programs(a)bikecoop.ca> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Softball Question: What's in Your Mobile/Pop-up Kit? Message-ID: <5dc2a37ae8da8fb4913a9b6a397e6d68(a)inventati.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Our popup kit has everything that Kickstand's and AMS's does, except we only use one tent and we don't bring spare parts or other bikes. Our popup is transported by bike trailer, complete bikes wouldn't be manageable. A couple of things we tend to bring that haven't been mentioned are a few fresh cables, a flat file, and some electrical tape to make rim strips (first wrap sticky side up, second wrap sticky side down, puncture to make valve hole). Housings are considered a bit out of scope. We'll ask people to come by the shop if the repairs require too many spare parts. SO MANY MANGLED REAR DERAILERS. UGH. Lol@Sunny: > set with 3 missing ...important! cyclista Nicholas On 2018-10-11 21:39, Sunny Nestler wrote: > Here's ours > > EXTREME Roll > > > - > > wrenches: > - > > box (7-17mm) & tri socket > - > > cone (13, 15-19, 2x 15) > - > > headset (32, 36 & 36, 40) > - > > bottom bracket > - > > brake, 2x > - > > pedal > - > > adjustable > - > > allen keys: > - > > multi > - > > tri > - > > set with 3 missing > - > > crank puller > - > > 4th hand tool > - > > cable cutters > - > > tire levers, 4x > - > > chain checker > - > > pliers, regular & headset > - > > pin spanners, 2x > - > > screwdrivers, 1 flathead, 1 phillips > - > > vise grips > - > > exacto knife > - > > pokey tool > > > Missing: > > - > > 3 allen keys > - > > chainbreaker (ordered) > > > BASIC Roll > > - > > wrenches: > - > > box 6-17mm (3 x 13mm) > - > > headset (30/32, 36/40 mm) > - > > bottom bracket x 2 > - > > brake > - > > Scissors > - > > Pokey tool > - > > Allen Keys > - > > 6-2.5 mm > - > > multi tool > - > > Chain breaker > - > > exacto knife > - > > Torque key multi tool > - > > Flathead, phillips one big one small, screw driver > - > > 4th hand tool > - > > vice grip > - > > chain checker > - > > tire levers x 3 > - > > patch kit > - > > file > - > > brush > - > > pin spanners (round and flat) > > > *Sunny Nestler*, *Programs Manager* > AMS Bike Co-op > University of British Columbia > 604-822-2453 | bikecoop.ca | @ubcbike > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:21 PM John Young <jmyoung73(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We do these about once a month at a soup kitchen type facility in >> Raleigh. >> Here is what we bring: >> >> >> - One or two tents (10' x 10') >> - Bike Stand(s) >> - Bike Tools (fairly complete set of common bike tools, fit in a >> standard size carryable tool box) >> - Regular Tools (including common hand tools plus hack saw, bolt >> cutters, tin snips) >> - Truing Stand >> - 1-2 parts bikes. These are fairly complete bikes that have been >> deemed too far gone to fix. We strip parts as needed to make repair >> - 1-2 exchange bikes. These are donated bikes that are ready to go, >> if >> someone brings in a daily driver that we deem to be unsafe we try >> to >> exchange. >> - Tubes (3-4 26", 1 each of 700 x 32, 24", 29", 20" all schrader) >> - (2) floor pumps >> - Zip Ties >> - Assorted used tires (mostly 26") >> - Park Tools book on bike repair >> - Brake pads >> - Brake cable and housing >> - Shift cable and housing >> - Chain lube, PB Blaster, Grease (for wheel bearings), spray bottle >> of >> rubbing alcohol (to remove grips), 3 in 1 oil (for rusted chains >> worth >> saving) >> >> Could probably get away with a lot less but this is what we have >> evolved >> to over the last 1.5 years. We have a great group of volunteers who >> are >> not afraid to do some extensive repairs. >> >> John >> Raleigh Community Kickstand >> https://www.facebook.com/RaleighCommunityKickstand/ >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:02 PM Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> What's your list of things to bring to a pop-up repair event? Which >>> tools, ancillary supplies, etceteras do you make sure to have? >>> >>> JoshJoshJosh >>> >>> Josh Bisker >>> 914-500-9890 >>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >>> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >>> >>> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >> >> > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:02:37 +0000 From: Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: Sunny Nestler <programs(a)bikecoop.ca> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Softball Question: What's in Your Mobile/Pop-up Kit? Message-ID: <59302b87be6d76dc74bdb0bf99c4c2c9(a)inventati.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I forgot! We also bring two folding tables. They fit on the trailer because they are rectangular and really narrow. We got ours from Craigslist, but new they seem to come from Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cosco-20-x-48-Resin-Top-Folding-Table-Black/5087… They are pretty lightweight; they also help create a bigger platform for carrying things on the trailer. cyclista Nicholas On 2018-10-13 00:10, Cyclista Nicholas wrote: > Our popup kit has everything that Kickstand's and AMS's does, except > we only use one tent and we don't bring spare parts or other bikes. > Our popup is transported by bike trailer, complete bikes wouldn't be > manageable. > > A couple of things we tend to bring that haven't been mentioned are a > few fresh cables, a flat file, and some electrical tape to make rim > strips (first wrap sticky side up, second wrap sticky side down, > puncture to make valve hole). > > Housings are considered a bit out of scope. We'll ask people to come > by the shop if the repairs require too many spare parts. SO MANY > MANGLED REAR DERAILERS. UGH. > > Lol@Sunny: > >> set with 3 missing > > ...important! > > cyclista Nicholas > > > > On 2018-10-11 21:39, Sunny Nestler wrote: >> Here's ours >> >> EXTREME Roll >> >> >> - >> >> wrenches: >> - >> >> box (7-17mm) & tri socket >> - >> >> cone (13, 15-19, 2x 15) >> - >> >> headset (32, 36 & 36, 40) >> - >> >> bottom bracket >> - >> >> brake, 2x >> - >> >> pedal >> - >> >> adjustable >> - >> >> allen keys: >> - >> >> multi >> - >> >> tri >> - >> >> set with 3 missing >> - >> >> crank puller >> - >> >> 4th hand tool >> - >> >> cable cutters >> - >> >> tire levers, 4x >> - >> >> chain checker >> - >> >> pliers, regular & headset >> - >> >> pin spanners, 2x >> - >> >> screwdrivers, 1 flathead, 1 phillips >> - >> >> vise grips >> - >> >> exacto knife >> - >> >> pokey tool >> >> >> Missing: >> >> - >> >> 3 allen keys >> - >> >> chainbreaker (ordered) >> >> >> BASIC Roll >> >> - >> >> wrenches: >> - >> >> box 6-17mm (3 x 13mm) >> - >> >> headset (30/32, 36/40 mm) >> - >> >> bottom bracket x 2 >> - >> >> brake >> - >> >> Scissors >> - >> >> Pokey tool >> - >> >> Allen Keys >> - >> >> 6-2.5 mm >> - >> >> multi tool >> - >> >> Chain breaker >> - >> >> exacto knife >> - >> >> Torque key multi tool >> - >> >> Flathead, phillips one big one small, screw driver >> - >> >> 4th hand tool >> - >> >> vice grip >> - >> >> chain checker >> - >> >> tire levers x 3 >> - >> >> patch kit >> - >> >> file >> - >> >> brush >> - >> >> pin spanners (round and flat) >> >> >> *Sunny Nestler*, *Programs Manager* >> AMS Bike Co-op >> University of British Columbia >> 604-822-2453 | bikecoop.ca | @ubcbike >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:21 PM John Young <jmyoung73(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> We do these about once a month at a soup kitchen type facility in >>> Raleigh. >>> Here is what we bring: >>> >>> >>> - One or two tents (10' x 10') >>> - Bike Stand(s) >>> - Bike Tools (fairly complete set of common bike tools, fit in a >>> standard size carryable tool box) >>> - Regular Tools (including common hand tools plus hack saw, bolt >>> cutters, tin snips) >>> - Truing Stand >>> - 1-2 parts bikes. These are fairly complete bikes that have been >>> deemed too far gone to fix. We strip parts as needed to make >>> repair >>> - 1-2 exchange bikes. These are donated bikes that are ready to >>> go, if >>> someone brings in a daily driver that we deem to be unsafe we try >>> to >>> exchange. >>> - Tubes (3-4 26", 1 each of 700 x 32, 24", 29", 20" all schrader) >>> - (2) floor pumps >>> - Zip Ties >>> - Assorted used tires (mostly 26") >>> - Park Tools book on bike repair >>> - Brake pads >>> - Brake cable and housing >>> - Shift cable and housing >>> - Chain lube, PB Blaster, Grease (for wheel bearings), spray >>> bottle of >>> rubbing alcohol (to remove grips), 3 in 1 oil (for rusted chains >>> worth >>> saving) >>> >>> Could probably get away with a lot less but this is what we have >>> evolved >>> to over the last 1.5 years. We have a great group of volunteers who >>> are >>> not afraid to do some extensive repairs. >>> >>> John >>> Raleigh Community Kickstand >>> https://www.facebook.com/RaleighCommunityKickstand/ >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:02 PM Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What's your list of things to bring to a pop-up repair event? Which >>>> tools, ancillary supplies, etceteras do you make sure to have? >>>> >>>> JoshJoshJosh >>>> >>>> Josh Bisker >>>> 914-500-9890 >>>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> >>>> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> >>>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> >>>> ____________________________________ >>>> >>>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >>>> >>>> ____________________________________ >>> >>> The ThinkTank mailing List >>> >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> >> Unsubscribe from this list here: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 12:36:11 -0700 From: Sunny Nestler <programs(a)bikecoop.ca> To: cyclista(a)inventati.org Cc: The Think Tank <thethinktank(a)lists.bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Softball Question: What's in Your Mobile/Pop-up Kit? Message-ID: <CAK_PEs6dum4Hh0abP0G4cPwP3t7gysnRSRZ-qqauivibgPzstg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" LOL i didnt have time to edit that last email but yes, very important to make sure you are always missing AT LEAST 3 hex wrenches ? *Sunny Nestler*, *Programs Manager* AMS Bike Co-op University of British Columbia 604-822-2453 | bikecoop.ca | @ubcbike On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:02 PM Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista(a)inventati.org> wrote: > I forgot! We also bring two folding tables. They fit on the trailer > because they are rectangular and really narrow. > > We got ours from Craigslist, but new they seem to come from Walmart: > > https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cosco-20-x-48-Resin-Top-Folding-Table-Black/5087… > > They are pretty lightweight; they also help create a bigger platform for > carrying things on the trailer. > > cyclista Nicholas > > > On 2018-10-13 00:10, Cyclista Nicholas wrote: > > Our popup kit has everything that Kickstand's and AMS's does, except > > we only use one tent and we don't bring spare parts or other bikes. > > Our popup is transported by bike trailer, complete bikes wouldn't be > > manageable. > > > > A couple of things we tend to bring that haven't been mentioned are a > > few fresh cables, a flat file, and some electrical tape to make rim > > strips (first wrap sticky side up, second wrap sticky side down, > > puncture to make valve hole). > > > > Housings are considered a bit out of scope. We'll ask people to come > > by the shop if the repairs require too many spare parts. SO MANY > > MANGLED REAR DERAILERS. UGH. > > > > Lol@Sunny: > > > >> set with 3 missing > > > > ...important! > > > > cyclista Nicholas > > > > > > > > On 2018-10-11 21:39, Sunny Nestler wrote: > >> Here's ours > >> > >> EXTREME Roll > >> > >> > >> - > >> > >> wrenches: > >> - > >> > >> box (7-17mm) & tri socket > >> - > >> > >> cone (13, 15-19, 2x 15) > >> - > >> > >> headset (32, 36 & 36, 40) > >> - > >> > >> bottom bracket > >> - > >> > >> brake, 2x > >> - > >> > >> pedal > >> - > >> > >> adjustable > >> - > >> > >> allen keys: > >> - > >> > >> multi > >> - > >> > >> tri > >> - > >> > >> set with 3 missing > >> - > >> > >> crank puller > >> - > >> > >> 4th hand tool > >> - > >> > >> cable cutters > >> - > >> > >> tire levers, 4x > >> - > >> > >> chain checker > >> - > >> > >> pliers, regular & headset > >> - > >> > >> pin spanners, 2x > >> - > >> > >> screwdrivers, 1 flathead, 1 phillips > >> - > >> > >> vise grips > >> - > >> > >> exacto knife > >> - > >> > >> pokey tool > >> > >> > >> Missing: > >> > >> - > >> > >> 3 allen keys > >> - > >> > >> chainbreaker (ordered) > >> > >> > >> BASIC Roll > >> > >> - > >> > >> wrenches: > >> - > >> > >> box 6-17mm (3 x 13mm) > >> - > >> > >> headset (30/32, 36/40 mm) > >> - > >> > >> bottom bracket x 2 > >> - > >> > >> brake > >> - > >> > >> Scissors > >> - > >> > >> Pokey tool > >> - > >> > >> Allen Keys > >> - > >> > >> 6-2.5 mm > >> - > >> > >> multi tool > >> - > >> > >> Chain breaker > >> - > >> > >> exacto knife > >> - > >> > >> Torque key multi tool > >> - > >> > >> Flathead, phillips one big one small, screw driver > >> - > >> > >> 4th hand tool > >> - > >> > >> vice grip > >> - > >> > >> chain checker > >> - > >> > >> tire levers x 3 > >> - > >> > >> patch kit > >> - > >> > >> file > >> - > >> > >> brush > >> - > >> > >> pin spanners (round and flat) > >> > >> > >> *Sunny Nestler*, *Programs Manager* > >> AMS Bike Co-op > >> University of British Columbia > >> 604-822-2453 | bikecoop.ca | @ubcbike > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:21 PM John Young <jmyoung73(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> We do these about once a month at a soup kitchen type facility in > >>> Raleigh. > >>> Here is what we bring: > >>> > >>> > >>> - One or two tents (10' x 10') > >>> - Bike Stand(s) > >>> - Bike Tools (fairly complete set of common bike tools, fit in a > >>> standard size carryable tool box) > >>> - Regular Tools (including common hand tools plus hack saw, bolt > >>> cutters, tin snips) > >>> - Truing Stand > >>> - 1-2 parts bikes. These are fairly complete bikes that have been > >>> deemed too far gone to fix. We strip parts as needed to make > >>> repair > >>> - 1-2 exchange bikes. These are donated bikes that are ready to > >>> go, if > >>> someone brings in a daily driver that we deem to be unsafe we try > >>> to > >>> exchange. > >>> - Tubes (3-4 26", 1 each of 700 x 32, 24", 29", 20" all schrader) > >>> - (2) floor pumps > >>> - Zip Ties > >>> - Assorted used tires (mostly 26") > >>> - Park Tools book on bike repair > >>> - Brake pads > >>> - Brake cable and housing > >>> - Shift cable and housing > >>> - Chain lube, PB Blaster, Grease (for wheel bearings), spray > >>> bottle of > >>> rubbing alcohol (to remove grips), 3 in 1 oil (for rusted chains > >>> worth > >>> saving) > >>> > >>> Could probably get away with a lot less but this is what we have > >>> evolved > >>> to over the last 1.5 years. We have a great group of volunteers who > >>> are > >>> not afraid to do some extensive repairs. > >>> > >>> John > >>> Raleigh Community Kickstand > >>> https://www.facebook.com/RaleighCommunityKickstand/ > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:02 PM Josh Bisker <jbisker(a)gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> What's your list of things to bring to a pop-up repair event? Which > >>>> tools, ancillary supplies, etceteras do you make sure to have? > >>>> > >>>> JoshJoshJosh > >>>> > >>>> Josh Bisker > >>>> 914-500-9890 > >>>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op <http://bikecoop.nyc/> > >>>> 596 Acres <http://596acres.org/> > >>>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus <http://bindlestiff.org/> > >>>> ____________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>>> > >>>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >>>> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >>>> > >>>> ____________________________________ > >>> > >>> The ThinkTank mailing List > >>> > >>> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >>> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > >>> > >>> > >> > >> ____________________________________ > >> > >> The ThinkTank mailing List > >> > >> Unsubscribe from this list here: > >> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > Unsubscribe from this list here: > > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o… > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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